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  • We live on a flat plane

    @SilverishGoldNova If anyone is the troll here its you and your buddy @Erfisflat . If anyone comes out with a different opinion than you two, you both proceed abusively ridicule them and then mock them in your profile picture, banner, signature, etc.
    Since when is a pointless flag for spam an opinion? Dawn has been flooding this thread with random gish gallops and coveny has been lurking leaving spam and fallacy reactions on everything we post
    CovenyErfisflat
  • We live on a flat plane

    @SilverishGoldNova If anyone is the troll here its you and your buddy @Erfisflat . If anyone comes out with a different opinion than you two, you both proceed abusively ridicule them and then mock them in your profile picture, banner, signature, etc.
    That's not true I've addressed every concern here. Needlessly flagging EVERY OPPOSING post as spam or fallacy is not an opinion. It's childish.
    CovenySilverishGoldNova
  • We live on a flat plane

    Erfisflat said:


    I think someone just needs attention.
    They're both just desperate for attention so they're flagging everything we post as either Spam or Fallacy and bringing up plain ridiculous arguments that essentially boil down to "NUH UH BS"
    I don't know about Dawn, but the other is too childish to respond to. How can we falsify the globe model? Measure the earth, if we see things we shouldn't claim mirage! Unfalsifiable again! Just look at these composite images!
    CovenySilverishGoldNovafea
  • Atheism IS a Religion

    @Evidence and so the word games begin.

    I don't need to show you something doesn't exist. You are making the claim therefore you have the burden of proof to show it exists.

    And of course don't forget the insults, and strawmen.
    Evidence
  • We live on a flat plane

    @DawnBringerRiven You come at it from a different angle so it's interesting to see them use the same misdirection, pseudoscience, and "he said she said" with you that they used with me. They have begun to ridicule you, and the strawmen they use continue to increase. Have you watched these videos?




    SilverishGoldNovaDawnBringerRivenErfisflat
  • We live on a flat plane

    Erfisflat said:
    "but the horizon is not visible at this height."

    Sure looks like the horizon to me. Are you suggesting all that is just atmosphere? 
    He first implied that gas disproved it, now the fact we just can't disproves it.
    CovenyfeaErfisflat
  • We live on a flat plane

    Once again, I am not talking about black holes. My argument against Rahu has nothing to do with black holes. My concern is this, if Rahu is invisible but casts a shadow at the same time (e.g. causing an eclipse), how is that possible? If something is invisible, that means light is traveling through it, like glass. A shadow is caused by light being blocked by an object. How can Rahu have light completely pass through it, but at the same time, completely block light? If you say that Rahu is visible during an eclipse, then a shadow should not be cast because in the video you provided, Rahu emits light. Therefore, it makes no sense that Rahu can cause eclipses.
    You completely ignored the rebuttal I gave on this point. I showed you how an invisible object can block light.

    https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/55833/what-causes-insects-to-cast-large-shadows-from-where-their-feet-are
    Coveny
  • We live on a flat plane

    The picture of the atmosphere? Whether it is real or faked, it still proves and disproves nothing. It's a gas. The shape of the atmosphere does not have to be the same as the shape of its contents (e.g. land and the ocean). Even if the atmosphere is completely pizza flat, the earth can still be spherical, and vise versa.
    Also, I took the liberty to backwards search the second picture, and I have found that it is literally, a wall paper. https://imgur.com/a/EGJ1d

    So the the sky and ocean can be perfectly flat like this
    Image result for 200 proofs the earth
    No. Flat does not mean two dimensional, if it did that would mean you are arguing that Earth is as flat as this picture. A flat shape can have things inside it, just like if you hallow out a flat cube or square or what have you, you can place objects inside it. I never specified the thickness of the atmosphere as it was only a hypothetical scenario meant to be used as an example.
    Image result for 317000 feet

    but the Earth can be a big ol ball? I thought we were able to see curvature at 35,000 feet, but none at 317,000 feet.
    35,000 feet you can still see the landscape and horizon. At 317,000 feet, you cannot see the land this way. The curvature you are speaking of relates to the horizon, but the horizon is not visible at this height.
    And you aren't even trying to address the picture of Rahu I sent you, and are you saying Gas means the image above this proves nothing or that that is why Rahu appears which would make my earlier sentence incorrect, because either way ROFL wow... just wow. Are you conceeding now?
    What picture of Rahu? I already addressed a video of it and you still have not addressed my rebuttal to that video. What difference would it make if addressed a picture if I have already addressed an alleged video of it?




    Again, I had to spend an entire comment correcting your misconceptions on my wording. I hope the debates between us do not end up being 80% me correcting your misconceptions of my arguments and only 20% of actual debate relating to the topic.

    SilverishGoldNovaCoveny
  • Convince me that God is not real

    "First, which God/gods are you talking about, that you believe "don't exist"? Because scientifically speaking, One uncreated-Creator does exist, and I would like to see someone prove otherwise?" I believe you misunderstand my argument. The evidence regarding God's existence or inexistence are both inconclusive. In the end, we choose to believe based on what is more convenient for us. I wasn't referencing any specific God. Just simply a higher being.
    For your second question, I am speaking of the scientific method. "I trust that if you test hypotheses in a controlled situation, you can verify whether they are true or false based on whether they lead to accurate predictions."

    @DawnBringerRiven said: "The evidence regarding God's existence or inexistence are both inconclusive"

    So billions and billions of people are bowing down to these "statues" of gods that don't really exist?

    Oh they exist all right, even the Bible talks about them:

    Psalm 135:15 The idols of the nations are silver and gold,
    The work of men’s hands.
    16 They have mouths, but they do not speak;
    Eyes they have, but they do not see;
    17 They have ears, but they do not hear;
    Nor is there any breath in their mouths.
    18 Those who make them are like them;
    So is everyone who trusts in them.

    http://www.magicalomaha.com/godgoddessstatury.htm?pi=4

    These are all real gods and goddesses, and people do various things to worship them, .. including but not limited to 'killing their own children' as an offering to them. How can all these gods be nonexistent? Is there a "nonexistent" statue, or story of Odin, or Thor, Shiva or Gaia? Or has anyone seen and met Odin or Thor other than in comics and fairytale books, and now in movies? Which version of Odin and Thor does not exist? Can you, or anyone show me a more real version of any of the pagan gods (this includes drawings/paintings of Mary, little Jesus, the bearded father god, the Trinity-gods etc.)?

    Now that I have shown you that god/gods do exist, and since neither of them claimed that they created the Heavens and the Earth, why not look for our One True Creator who did claim He created the heavens and the earth, including Angels and us men!?

    Now I cannot show you an image of Him because no "image" could ever be crafted that would do near the justice He deserves. Besides, men would just start worshipping that 'idol' of God, and miss out on a personal relationship with their Creator!

    God is Real, and no one has ever seen, nor can see God with their physical eyes because He is Spirit, .. just as our mind is.

    John 4:21 Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. 24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

    And yes, .. here you might say: "But that's the Bible, .. men wrote the Bible so why should I believe that?"
    I could say the same thing about the stories on Evolution theory: "written by men, why should I believe it?"

    DawnBringerRiven said:For your second question, I am speaking of the scientific method. "I trust that if you test hypotheses in a controlled situation, you can verify whether they are true or false based on whether they lead to accurate predictions."

    Yes, that is the "scientific method", but lets see how exactly is it that we decide on these predictions?

    All the information that we do outside the body, is in the physical realm, correct? We use our hands, tools, look with our eyes, .. and umm, .. and then what happens?
    All that information is digitized and sent to different parts of our brain, from where "us", the "mind" analyzes it all and decides what to make of it. Decide whether it's true or false, is it real, or fake!?
    The information on both (fake or real) is the same to our minds eye.
    In other words let's take a child and put a 5'5" poster of mommy next to her real mommy standing there. The information transmitted from both objects are the same. The child, or the child's "mind" will have to decide which is what, and which is which?

    The same if I described my wife in writing, by a picture, and her standing there right in front of you, the information going to you the mind is the same.

    Now which of the three different digital information that you have present in your mind could you claim; "does not exist", .. or honestly say that "I don't believe your wife exists"?
    DawnBringerRiven
  • We live on a flat plane

    The picture of the atmosphere? Whether it is real or faked, it still proves and disproves nothing. It's a gas. The shape of the atmosphere does not have to be the same as the shape of its contents (e.g. land and the ocean). Even if the atmosphere is completely pizza flat, the earth can still be spherical, and vise versa.
    Also, I took the liberty to backwards search the second picture, and I have found that it is literally, a wall paper. https://imgur.com/a/EGJ1d

    So the the sky and ocean can be perfectly flat like this
    Image result for 200 proofs the earth

    Image result for 317000 feet

    but the Earth can be a big ol ball? I thought we were able to see curvature at 35,000 feet, but none at 317,000 feet.

    And you aren't even trying to address the picture of Rahu I sent you, and are you saying Gas means the image above this proves nothing or that that is why Rahu appears which would make my earlier sentence incorrect, because either way ROFL wow... just wow. Are you conceeding now?




    DawnBringerRivenCovenyfeaErfisflat

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