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  • Should "God" play a role in United States politics?

    The U.S. Government is merely the body and letter of the thought and spirit of the Declaration of Independence.  The U.S. Supreme Court holds firmly that the Constitution must be read, interpreted and understood with regards to the Declaration of Independence.  The U.S. Supreme Court also acknowledges that our Free Government is based upon religious principles.

    Also, when the Declaration of Independence was created and also when the 1st Amendment was officially added...the U.S. had multiple State Churches...none of which were removed or dissolved because of the 1st Amendment.
  • There is objective morality

    In order for one to believe that morality was not objective one would need to adopt and accept an argument against objective morality as objectively true. This is self contradictory.
  • Burning the flag should be illegal.


    I'm sorry but the Bible includes multiple reference to the Tribes of Israel using all sorts of Banners depicting different earthly images.  This was done several times at God's direct instruction. Secondly, showing devotion and patriotism is hardly within the context of "Worship" from a Biblical standpoint my friend.  I would challenge you to justify that conclusion.  On top of this, the founding principles of the United States and therefor part of what the U.S. Flag represents is the ideology that God is the "Supreme Judge of the World", that our Human Rights come from God and that the U.S. relies upon "Divine Providence".
  • Should "God" play a role in United States politics?

    The U.S. Government is not secular:

    Secular: Not connected with religious or spiritual matters.

    ‘secular buildings’
    Contrasted with sacred

    Cotting v. Godard, in 1901, the Supreme Court makes the case that the Constitution is but the “body and the letter” of the “thought and spirit” of the Declaration’s founding principles:

    The first official action of this nation declared the foundation of government in these words: ‘We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.’ While such declaration of principles may not have the force of organic law, or be made the basis of judicial decision as to the limits of right and duty, and while in all cases reference must be had to the organic law of the nation for such limits, yet the latter is but the body and the letter of which the former is the thought and the spirit, and it is always safe to read the letter of the Constitution in the spirit of the Declaration of Independence. No duty rests more imperatively upon the courts than the enforcement of those constitutional provisions intended to secure that equality of rights which is the foundation of free government.

    Above is a perfect example of exactly how the Government is not secular.  The U.S. Supreme Court formally and officially acknowledges that the Constitution of the United States is merely the body and letter of the founding principles of the Declaration of Independence.  Since one of the prominent founding principles established in the Declaration of Independence is the bestowment of the rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness by our "Creator"...then the principle that these rights are God given is also formally and officially recognized by the U.S. Supreme Court.  Our Presidents of the United States have formally recognized this publicly many times over.  Our Declaration of Independence also establishes that the U.S. is subject to the "Supreme Judge of the World" and that our independence is completely dependent on "Divine Providence".  

    In short, if the Constitution is the body and letter of the Declaration of Independence (As established by the U.S. Supreme Court in Cotting v. Godard) then the Constitution is to be legally interpreted with respect to the "Supreme Judge of the World" and our "Creator".  Now I suppose you could argue that this doesn't objectively establish which God is being referenced...but understanding who the Founding Fathers worshiped and who was prayed to upon the meeting of the Second Continental can easily and safely deduce that it was the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

    The U.S. Government only appears to be secular at the surface...everything underneath is rooted firmly in Christianity and to say otherwise is wishful thinking.
  • Is The earth flat?

    I never leave one of them un responded to. I will respond to all of them.
    "1. Argument 1. NASA admitting to faking images, debunking the "independent alternatives""
    I would not use NASA photos as in arguments as I know most flat earthers think they are fake.

    "We are widely told we can see curvature at 35,000 feet. However, there are a number of images showing that this is not the case."
    We also have a lot of photos showing their is curvature. What makes theis photos reliable and the others not?

    "According to the globe model, this should be impossible and Chicago should instead disappear over the horizon but this is not the case. The common explanation is that this is just a mirage, but if you have actually seen a mirage you will know this is not true."
    This is due to atmospheric refraction. Refraction of light can be observed in water, or through lens.
    Image result for lens and how the bend light
     You can try different curved lens and lens that slow light down to different speeds and you will find a certn rule to redraction. My model predicts the atmosphere bends light in different ways depending on conditions. It is a realy interesting topic that you could prove the rules of your self with different lenses. Mirageh are atmospheric refraction under certain conditions. Given the right conditions atmospheric refraction is perfectly possible. Less dens air refracts air back to more dens air. Many flat earther proofs can easly be explained using atmospheric refraction. Light bends in word because air gets less dens the higher you go.

    "here are many flight patterns that make no sense on a sphere, but they do on a flat earth."
    First How does going places colder then anywhere on earth (not in a plane beacuse planes stay on earth) Mean anything?
    Second are you considering wind direction or supplies. Third plane patterns are prodicted by things like having safty aports to make emrgancy landing wind direction.
    Image result for wind patterns over antarcticaImage result for wind patterns over antarctica
    Why do they go around. Look at the wind maps it just be easyer to go around with the wind then to go over. If going over really is not faster because of wind and is cold and no where to make emergency landing why would you even wan't to? They also like to keep with busy airports. Why do planes not fly over the north pole often? It makes sens to on your model right?  They don't do it because where the earth is flat or round it make no sens.

    "Proving the geocentric sun."
    I believe this image from above shows the problem with that.
    Sun gets closer to the north pole and some how it creates a little circle then creates a big surrounding when it reaches the other side. Light does not work that way.
    I will be awaiting your rebutted to my argument. That is if I did the rounds right. I hope I got it right. : ) 
  • Earth is a ball

    @Erfisflat we have day and night as everyone not living under a rock knows, day and night is only possible with a earth of a ovaled or rounded shape. As the earth spins the sun crosses the sky till it can no longer stay in the sky and than it is dark. If the earth was flat a compass would not work as gravitational pull would be either uneven and only in the center or even and the compass would not work at all. 

    Even tough their may be some studies showing the earth can only be flat they overlook a lot of factors to come to the conclusion. How would half the earth be lit up and half of it be dark, how would compasses point to true north no matter where you are on the planet. A lot of factors prove the earth is round.
  • Are More Hurricanes Occurring Due To Climate Change?

    No, hurricanes may not be related to climate change.
  • Earth is a ball

    Erfisflat You say the earth is a ball with so much certainty. I would advise to keep an open my. 
  • Earth is a ball

    I can engage where people are misinformed, and approach the debate in good faith, like economics. I can engage where there are no real answers, like politics or philosophy. I refuse to engage where there are right answers and all the evidence is discounted as fake or reduced to ""indoctrination"".
  • Is communism good?

    In short, communism is state tyrannical prospects in, forced equality (live as others), coerced altruism (live for others) and suppressed human nature (think like others). Such state tyranny goes against the constructal law
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