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  • AlwaysCorrectAlwaysCorrect 227 Pts
    edited September 5
    According to physics, why would he have landed thousands of miles away?

    As we stand on the earth, we spin with it. When you jump or enter a hot air balloon, that momentum doesn't magically disappear.There is no reason to expect it to.

    PowerPikachu21ErfisflatfeaWoodenWoodnamemcnameSilverishGoldNova
  • What's interesting to me is that you propose theories, yet expect people to take your word as truth. I think it's time to compare the Round Earth model with what I've learned so far.

    Day/Night:

    According to the Flat Earth model, the sun and moon hover over the earth, and presumably go around in a circle. How they hover and move? Not sure.

    Now, according to the Round Earth model, the sun is stationary while the Earth revolves around the sun, the moon revolves around Earth. Day and night happen because of the Earth's rotation. Why Earth is rotating is likely momentum from its creation, from various rocks combining into Earth. I say 'likely' because time travel isn't possible so we can't go check. The best science (you as well) can do is find the most probable answer.

    Eclipses:


    An eclipse is basically when the moon directly blocks light coming from the sun. The Round Earth model proposes the Earth being far from the Sun, the Moon being much closer. This allows for the Sun, Moon, and Earth to make a straight line, thus an eclipse.

    Flat Earth seems to say Rahu is an invisible celestial body that blocks out the sun (at least from what I've gathered). Could you tell me a bit more about this? And how would you go about showing Rahu to exist?

    An Edge:

    The reason I've brought up the edge is that people who aren't familiar with the Flat Earth imagine the flat disk, therefore propose an edge. An edge is where a flat plane ends, like the edge of the face of a cube. On the Flat Earth Dome model, is there not an area where the Earth ends? Erfisflat did also bring up the idea that the whole Earth is surrounded by ice, and next to it is another Earth, though I'm questioning how one comes to this conclusion. Might as well ask even more questions: Has anyone attempted to scale the wall? What did they find?

    Problem with Sources:

    I think I'd better address this issue now. How do we know which sources show evidence or lies? Of course we'd use sources that agree with our position, but what makes them true? Round Earth would say they're from scientists who do research and did go to space. Flat Earth probably calls them liars. Then I'd ask why your sources are true. We can't appeal to authority without the other guy questioning them, so we're at an impasse. (Unless I'm overthinking this and I should research on websites.)

    But Flat Earth is still plausible, just seems far fetched when I'm comparing it to what I've been told. What now?
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 671 PtsPremium Member
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    SilverishGoldNovaPowerPikachu21
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

  • @Erfisflat Your point being...? If I was being taught false information, tell me what I got wrong and what the correct solution is. (except I have a hard time accepting something I have many questions of, still unanswered)
    Erfisflat
  • Again, I'm willing to see the earth is flat, but that kind of thing doesn't happen instantly. I need to understand your arguments as true, not calling me an idiot. Even if I was an idiot, you have to show me the way.
    Erfisflat
  • SilverishGoldNovaSilverishGoldNova 711 PtsPremium Member
    edited August 24 Premium Member
    What's interesting to me is that you propose theories, yet expect people to take your word as truth. I think it's time to compare the Round Earth model with what I've learned so far.

    Day/Night:

    According to the Flat Earth model, the sun and moon hover over the earth, and presumably go around in a circle. How they hover and move? Not sure.

    Now, according to the Round Earth model, the sun is stationary while the Earth revolves around the sun, the moon revolves around Earth. Day and night happen because of the Earth's rotation. Why Earth is rotating is likely momentum from its creation, from various rocks combining into Earth. I say 'likely' because time travel isn't possible so we can't go check. The best science (you as well) can do is find the most probable answer.

    Eclipses:


    An eclipse is basically when the moon directly blocks light coming from the sun. The Round Earth model proposes the Earth being far from the Sun, the Moon being much closer. This allows for the Sun, Moon, and Earth to make a straight line, thus an eclipse.

    Flat Earth seems to say Rahu is an invisible celestial body that blocks out the sun (at least from what I've gathered). Could you tell me a bit more about this? And how would you go about showing Rahu to exist?

    An Edge:

    The reason I've brought up the edge is that people who aren't familiar with the Flat Earth imagine the flat disk, therefore propose an edge. An edge is where a flat plane ends, like the edge of the face of a cube. On the Flat Earth Dome model, is there not an area where the Earth ends? Erfisflat did also bring up the idea that the whole Earth is surrounded by ice, and next to it is another Earth, though I'm questioning how one comes to this conclusion. Might as well ask even more questions: Has anyone attempted to scale the wall? What did they find?

    Problem with Sources:

    I think I'd better address this issue now. How do we know which sources show evidence or lies? Of course we'd use sources that agree with our position, but what makes them true? Round Earth would say they're from scientists who do research and did go to space. Flat Earth probably calls them liars. Then I'd ask why your sources are true. We can't appeal to authority without the other guy questioning them, so we're at an impasse. (Unless I'm overthinking this and I should research on websites.)

    But Flat Earth is still plausible, just seems far fetched when I'm comparing it to what I've been told. What now?
    I already told you that the sun hovering above the Earth is an unverifiable question. But there are a number of good reasons I've heard. 

    "Now, according to the Round Earth model, the sun is stationary while the Earth revolves around the sun, the moon revolves around Earth. Day and night happen because of the Earth's rotation. Why Earth is rotating is likely momentum from its creation, from various rocks combining into Earth. I say 'likely' because time travel isn't possible so we can't go check. The best science (you as well) can do is find the most probable answer."

    The sun isn't stationary in the globe model. You, see in the globe model, we live on a ball spinning faster than sound blasting around the sun at 66,000 MPH, which intern spirals around the galaxy at 483,000 MPH, but we don't fly off because of gravity, a force so strong it keeps us from falling off, that can simulataniously be over powered by a balloon or tiny magnet. 

    Are you asking for evidence that The Invisible Object, Rahu, whatever exists? 




    Nobody has attempted to scale the wall. Unless, of course, you consider this scaling the wall.



    To address sources, a video from a hot air balloon is probably more reliable than an organization than an $18 billion a year company that claims while they're able to send probes to Jupiter and out of the Solar System, and it was so easy to go to the moon 6 times more than 50 years, we are now simultaneously unable to leave low Earth orbit and get a full picture of Earth. It's either a composite or a CGI. Even then the moon landings, probes, and space shuttles have already been debunked. My question is why a company that makes that much money would have to fake images if the Earth was really a big ol ball
    feaWoodenWoodnamemcnameErfisflat
    "You cannot go around the Earth on a globe, nor on a flat plane"- Oswald_Mosley 
    "Your images are fake because they do not come from NASA"- Hank
    "I couldn't address your arguments so I insulted you"- Coveny

  • SilverishGoldNovaSilverishGoldNova 711 PtsPremium Member
    edited September 10 Premium Member
    According to physics, why would he have landed thousands of miles away?

    As we stand on the earth, we spin with it. When you jump or enter a hot air balloon, that momentum doesn't magically disappear.There is no reason to expect it to.

    insert insults and fallacies here lulz
    Oh I get it, we spin with the Earth spinning faster than sound, blasting around the sun at 66,000 MPH, specifically round a sun that moves around the galaxy at 483,000 miles, despite not flying off because of "GRAVITUH", which can also be overpowered by a tiny magnet or balloon. not to mention not feeling it despite feeling and even measuring the slightest westward breeze. I gotchu, @AlwaysCorrect
    feaWoodenWoodnamemcnameErfisflat
    "You cannot go around the Earth on a globe, nor on a flat plane"- Oswald_Mosley 
    "Your images are fake because they do not come from NASA"- Hank
    "I couldn't address your arguments so I insulted you"- Coveny

  • @SilverishGoldNova I thought you said it was the Round Earthers who insult, not yourself.

    "I already told you that the sun hovering above the Earth is an unverifiable question. But there are a number of good reasons I've heard."

    What reasons?

    "The sun isn't stationary in the globe model. You, see in the globe model, we live on a ball spinning faster than sound blasting around the sun at 66,000 MPH, which intern spirals around the galaxy at 483,000 MPH, but we don't fly off because of gravity, a force so strong it keeps us from falling off, that can simulataniously be over powered by a balloon or tiny magnet."

    So the sun isn't stationary, then you talk about the Earth, Helium, and magnetism, which aren't the sun. So this brings me to more questions. How come I go down when I jump? How come Helium doesn't go down? What are magnets and how do they work?

    Again, pardon my barrage of questions. I like trying to figure things out, especially if it seems complicated. (that means you have to teach me, even if I am an idiot)

    Watching 1st video: Not an expert, so I'm not sure what that light would be. Though I'm a little surprised she was able to look at the sun, considering how intensely bright it is. Either that, or some jets are shooting my eyes or something, leaving an afterimage where my eyes saw the sun.

    Watching 2nd video: No offense meant, but I question the validity of the video. We never saw the plane crash, and the yellow text with 3 exclamation points just makes it seem unprofessional. Vladimir Tarzisky also seems a bit suspicious, with research suggesting he's a conspirist, so probably already believes the Flat Earth. http://www.whale.to/b/terziski_h.html

    "To address sources, a video from a hot air balloon is probably more reliable than an organization than an $18 billion a year company that claims while they're able to send probes to Jupiter and out of the Solar System, and it was so easy to go to the moon 6 times more than 50 years, we are now simultaneously unable to leave low Earth orbit and get a full picture of Earth. It's either a composite or a CGI. Even then the moon landings, probes, and space shuttles have already been debunked."

    So... find a video about a hot air balloon touching the dome? Also, note that the Flat Earth basically states it's impossible to take a picture of the Earth with the dome and denial of there being a way into outer space.
    SilverishGoldNovaErfisflat
  • SilverishGoldNovaSilverishGoldNova 711 PtsPremium Member
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    @SilverishGoldNova I thought you said it was the Round Earthers who insult, not yourself.

    "I already told you that the sun hovering above the Earth is an unverifiable question. But there are a number of good reasons I've heard."

    What reasons?

    "The sun isn't stationary in the globe model. You, see in the globe model, we live on a ball spinning faster than sound blasting around the sun at 66,000 MPH, which intern spirals around the galaxy at 483,000 MPH, but we don't fly off because of gravity, a force so strong it keeps us from falling off, that can simulataniously be over powered by a balloon or tiny magnet."

    So the sun isn't stationary, then you talk about the Earth, Helium, and magnetism, which aren't the sun. So this brings me to more questions. How come I go down when I jump? How come Helium doesn't go down? What are magnets and how do they work?

    Again, pardon my barrage of questions. I like trying to figure things out, especially if it seems complicated. (that means you have to teach me, even if I am an idiot)

    Watching 1st video: Not an expert, so I'm not sure what that light would be. Though I'm a little surprised she was able to look at the sun, considering how intensely bright it is. Either that, or some jets are shooting my eyes or something, leaving an afterimage where my eyes saw the sun.

    Watching 2nd video: No offense meant, but I question the validity of the video. We never saw the plane crash, and the yellow text with 3 exclamation points just makes it seem unprofessional. Vladimir Tarzisky also seems a bit suspicious, with research suggesting he's a conspirist, so probably already believes the Flat Earth. http://www.whale.to/b/terziski_h.html

    "To address sources, a video from a hot air balloon is probably more reliable than an organization than an $18 billion a year company that claims while they're able to send probes to Jupiter and out of the Solar System, and it was so easy to go to the moon 6 times more than 50 years, we are now simultaneously unable to leave low Earth orbit and get a full picture of Earth. It's either a composite or a CGI. Even then the moon landings, probes, and space shuttles have already been debunked."

    So... find a video about a hot air balloon touching the dome? Also, note that the Flat Earth basically states it's impossible to take a picture of the Earth with the dome and denial of there being a way into outer space.

    Ok first show me where I ever insulted someone in this debate. Whoever loses the bet has to say "I am lying" 400 times in an argument.

    "So the sun isn't stationary, then you talk about the Earth, Helium, and magnetism, which aren't the sun. So this brings me to more questions. How come I go down when I jump? How come Helium doesn't go down? What are magnets and how do they work?"

    The reason objects fall back to the Earth is because of density. For example drop a microphone, it falls because it is more dense than the air. At the same time if you drop a balloon, it rises because the helium is less dense than the air. 

    What are magnets? So you need me to explain to you how magnets work. The north pole of one magnet attracts the south pole of a second magnet, while the north pole of one magnet the other magnet's north pole.

    "Not an expert, so I'm not sure what that light would be. Though I'm a little surprised she was able to look at the sun, considering how intensely bright it is. Either that, or some jets are shooting my eyes or something, leaving an afterimage where my eyes saw the sun."

    I doubt think she looked directly at the sun unprotected. 

    Need some extra proof of a dome?






    "
    So... find a video about a hot air balloon touching the dome"

    I was talking more about this image from 121,000 feet.

    feaWoodenWoodnamemcnameErfisflat
    "You cannot go around the Earth on a globe, nor on a flat plane"- Oswald_Mosley 
    "Your images are fake because they do not come from NASA"- Hank
    "I couldn't address your arguments so I insulted you"- Coveny

  • ErfisflatErfisflat 671 PtsPremium Member
    Premium Member
    Coveny said:
    @Erfisflat Can you stop tagging coveny in debates?

    @Coveny You used a lot of insults and you didn't address my arguments, It seemed pretty likely you were either trolling or desperate. But now it seems you have decided to stop with that, and use real arguments. With that in mind, well I'm not sure if I can consider your statement an argument. You simply listed and depicted several flat Earth arguments humorously and called them problems with the theory. 
    I stated my arguments in the beginning, and got insulted and ridiculed, you jumped in the middle of me responding to those insults and ridicule. As I've stated before, you pick debate or smack talk. I'm fine with either.

    The point outline problems with the flat earth model that haven't been addressed, so they aren't arguments per say I guess.
    I mean, I wasn't really planning on debating nor smack talking it here because you only posted because Erfisflat tagged you
    I was only apologizing for using is head, forgot that he does nothing but derail the conversations of adults.
    SilverishGoldNovaPowerPikachu21namemcname
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

  • ErfisflatErfisflat 671 PtsPremium Member
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    @PowerPikachu21

    "Why should I be a flat earther?"

    Nobody Is asking you to believe us. That's not why I am here. We're presenting evidence and clearing the taboo associated with FET. As always, fact check, and make up your own mind. 
    namemcname
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

  • SilverishGoldNovaSilverishGoldNova 711 PtsPremium Member
    Premium Member
    I guess I'm done here. Going back my my land where the Sun and Moon are ruled by a lion and a bat, and this nebula thing won't get in the bag.
    PS: Looks like Coveny told you how the sun hovers before we did. 
    feaWoodenWoodnamemcname
    "You cannot go around the Earth on a globe, nor on a flat plane"- Oswald_Mosley 
    "Your images are fake because they do not come from NASA"- Hank
    "I couldn't address your arguments so I insulted you"- Coveny

  • Erfisflat said:
    If you are in a plane travelling hundreds of miles an hour and you light a cigarette, does the smoke from your cigarette suddenly speed to the back of the cabin? No, because you, the plane and the air inside the plane (including the smoke) all have the same momentum in the same direction. Similarly when the earth spins the  earth, the people on it and the atmosphere are also spinning.

    We wouldn't expect the smokestack to be effected by the earth's rotation in the way you suggest based on a normal understanding of physics. This is not you finding some glaring error in the normal model of how the world works, it's you displaying your ignorance of what you're trying to disprove. Why should we possibly believe any of your claims when any proof you offer just shows you are ignorant of the topic under discussion?
    CovenyPowerPikachu21namemcnameTransgendersAreGay
  • We are all told from the moment we enter a classroom the Earth is a ball in space spinning faster than sound blasting around the sun. However so far, the only proof for the globe I have seen is contradictory pseudoscience. The globe started out as a theory thousands of years ago, that became accepted because of claims that were later (aka today) shown to actually be proof of a flat world, and now people are willing to defend it because "Muh NASA photos". Some globe Earthers have even gone as far as to say we live on an egg or pear shaped Earth, citing Neil deGrasse Tyson saying so as their proof. 

    A flat Earth, started out as a theory thousands of years ago.
    Hundreds of years ago after thorough scientific appraisal, the flat Earth theory was proved to be incorrect.

    Let's not forget, These events all occurred, before the foundation Of the U.S.A. and N.A.S.A.
    Nonetheless, N.A.S.A. aren't the only ones who own a camera.

    Furthermore. What exactly is contradictory pseudoscience? Other than dramatic rhetoric.
    Dramatic rhetoric is generally used as a persuasive tool, when attempting to ignore sound evidence and proof, or attempting to cover up a lack of sound evidence and proof.


    namemcname
  • CovenyCoveny 395 Pts
    Erfisflat said:
    Coveny said:
    @Erfisflat Can you stop tagging coveny in debates?

    @Coveny You used a lot of insults and you didn't address my arguments, It seemed pretty likely you were either trolling or desperate. But now it seems you have decided to stop with that, and use real arguments. With that in mind, well I'm not sure if I can consider your statement an argument. You simply listed and depicted several flat Earth arguments humorously and called them problems with the theory. 
    I stated my arguments in the beginning, and got insulted and ridiculed, you jumped in the middle of me responding to those insults and ridicule. As I've stated before, you pick debate or smack talk. I'm fine with either.

    The point outline problems with the flat earth model that haven't been addressed, so they aren't arguments per say I guess.
    I mean, I wasn't really planning on debating nor smack talking it here because you only posted because Erfisflat tagged you
    I was only apologizing for using is head, forgot that he does nothing but derail the conversations of adults.
    Look at that an apology with a backhanded insult. It makes the apology feel so sincere...
    PowerPikachu21SilverishGoldNovanamemcnameErfisflat
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 671 PtsPremium Member
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    @alwayscorrect
    "Similarly when the earth spins the  earth, the people on it and the atmosphere are also spinning."

    One of the most asinine of arguments, an airplane has a solid enclosure. Saying that atmosphere, or the air itself, is a solid enclosure around a ball earth is nonsense and pseudoscience.

    "Why should we possibly believe any of your claims when any proof you offer just shows you are ignorant of the topic under discussion?"

    I did learn about physics and the heliocentric model, I graduated school just like most. My position is that the claims are nonsensical and demonstrably false on any reproducible scale. Which means it is pseudoscience. 
    PowerPikachu21namemcname
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

  • SilverishGoldNovaSilverishGoldNova 711 PtsPremium Member
    edited August 24 Premium Member
    @Fredsnephew

    Actually, everyone agreed that the Earth was flat. It wasn't simply a theory then. 

    Then, some guy in Greece said "Ey loook, the boats over the Horizon. "

    Which has been debunked. But people are still clinging onto the globe like their child, because NASA photos. Yes, we know, NASA was founded in the 1950's

    Which have also been debunked.

    Also, there was never ANY proof for heliocentrism,
    feaWoodenWoodnamemcnameErfisflat
    "You cannot go around the Earth on a globe, nor on a flat plane"- Oswald_Mosley 
    "Your images are fake because they do not come from NASA"- Hank
    "I couldn't address your arguments so I insulted you"- Coveny

  • ErfisflatErfisflat 671 PtsPremium Member
    Premium Member
    Coveny said:
    Erfisflat said:
    Coveny said:
    @Erfisflat Can you stop tagging coveny in debates?

    @Coveny You used a lot of insults and you didn't address my arguments, It seemed pretty likely you were either trolling or desperate. But now it seems you have decided to stop with that, and use real arguments. With that in mind, well I'm not sure if I can consider your statement an argument. You simply listed and depicted several flat Earth arguments humorously and called them problems with the theory. 
    I stated my arguments in the beginning, and got insulted and ridiculed, you jumped in the middle of me responding to those insults and ridicule. As I've stated before, you pick debate or smack talk. I'm fine with either.

    The point outline problems with the flat earth model that haven't been addressed, so they aren't arguments per say I guess.
    I mean, I wasn't really planning on debating nor smack talking it here because you only posted because Erfisflat tagged you
    I was only apologizing for using is head, forgot that he does nothing but derail the conversations of adults.
    Look at that an apology with a backhanded insult. It makes the apology feel so sincere...
    i was stating a fact about your asinine arguments. I hope you don't cry about it.
    PowerPikachu21
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

  • @Erfisflat

    "One of the most asinine of arguments, an airplane has a solid enclosure. Saying that atmosphere, or the air itself, is a solid enclosure around a ball earth is nonsense and pseudoscience."

    No-one is saying that, so either you do not understand or are you concocting a strawman.

    The inside of an airplane is an example of a single system where all the elements - including the people, the atmosphere and particles in the atmosphere share a common trend of momentum regardless of their individual differences (e.g. someone walking down an aisle vs someone sitting in a seat).

    The earth and it's atmosphere is an example of a single system where all the elements - including the people, the atmosphere and the particles in the atmosphere share a common trend of momentum regardless of their individual differences (e.g. someone walking down the street vs someone sitting in a chair at home).

    For the purposes of highlighting your ignorance, how a single system with a common momentum is generated does not matter. What matters is how we know matter reacts in such a situation.

    One of the single most fundamental and constantly proven laws of physics is Newton's first law, that objects will retain their momentum (or lack thereof) unless a force is exerted on them. The smokestack and all the materials in it are rotating with the earth. As it rises, the smoke will still have that force. Apparently you think that momentum will magically disappear. Your claim contravenes the most basic understanding of how physics works and is due to your ignorance of the subject matter.

    "I did learn about physics and the heliocentric model, I graduated school just like most. My position is that the claims are nonsensical and demonstrably false on any reproducible scale. Which means it is pseudoscience. "

    I neither asked for whether you learned physics in school nor for you to make unsupported claims.

    Conventional science has provided us with an understanding of how the physical world works. If you think your picture has some meaning, quote a reputable scientific reference which explains how the smoke should come out sideways and blow horizontally at a thousand miles an hour or whatever ridiculous thing you're trying to suggest. You won't be able to because what science predicts will happen is exactly what's shown in that photo. Thank you for helping support the standard model of physics which understands the earth is a globe.
    PowerPikachu21TransgendersAreGay
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 671 PtsPremium Member
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    @AlwaysCorrect

    "...constantly proven laws of physics is Newton's first law, that objects will retain their momentum (or lack thereof) unless a force is exerted on them. The smokestack and all the materials in it are rotating with the earth. As it rises, the smoke will still have that force. Apparently you think that momentum will magically disappear. Your claim contravenes the most basic understanding of how physics works and is due to your ignorance of the subject matter."

    You do love to say I'm ignorant don't you...

    The smoke leaves the train (that is in motion) and does not follow the train along it's path, so why should the motion of the earth be an exception?


    namemcname
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

  • SilverishGoldNovaSilverishGoldNova 711 PtsPremium Member
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    CovenyWoodenWoodnamemcnameErfisflatfea
    "You cannot go around the Earth on a globe, nor on a flat plane"- Oswald_Mosley 
    "Your images are fake because they do not come from NASA"- Hank
    "I couldn't address your arguments so I insulted you"- Coveny

  • SilverishGoldNovaSilverishGoldNova 711 PtsPremium Member
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    BECAUSE GRAVITUH - dis don happen on erth because gravituh
    feaWoodenWoodnamemcnameErfisflat
    "You cannot go around the Earth on a globe, nor on a flat plane"- Oswald_Mosley 
    "Your images are fake because they do not come from NASA"- Hank
    "I couldn't address your arguments so I insulted you"- Coveny

  • ErfisflatErfisflat 671 PtsPremium Member
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    "You're an idiot if you dont understand the magical Velcro atmosphere of the earth."
    SilverishGoldNovaPowerPikachu21WoodenWoodnamemcname
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

  • PowerPikachu21PowerPikachu21 176 Pts
    edited August 25
    If we can't take a photo of the entire Earth, then we'd need other ways to definitively prove the Flat Earth. Two ways of doing so is finding where the Earth stops (it's ludicrous to deny there's an edge, whether it's a dome or an ice wall.), or going 1 direction until you come back to your starting point (might find an edge in the process). Making Round Earthers seem dumb using memes doesn't count as evidence (possibly inferring a lack of evidence from you).

    I'll stick around until this has a page 4. If you don't show me a video of someone going to the edge, or anything that definitely proves a Flat Earth, I won't join you and I'll leave you alone.

    [Also, I think the smoke from the train does move a bit, but the fact that it's so light and possibly air friction makes it unable to keep its forward momentum for long. And inertia/momentum does exist, as well as air friction, as it's what makes a ball slow down when rolling forward. Keep in mind air isn't very sturdy or dense so it won't act like a wall.]
    ErfisflatSilverishGoldNovaCovenyyolostide
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