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Trump vs NFL

Opening Argument

WhyTrumpWhyTrump 158 PtsPremium Member
Trump now picked a dangerous target - American fav sport - NFL.  Dude, you can't win that one, football players are rockstars and that trumps Trump. I think that was a no-win for Trump to go after them as it will hurt his popularity.  Yes, I agree that national anthem and american flag should be respected, but Trump will not get support from the country to attack NFL
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  1. Will country support Trump in his attack on NFL?

    9 votes
    1. Yes
      55.56%
    2. No
      11.11%
    3. Mixed
      33.33%
WhyTrump - a good question

Status: Open Debate

Arguments

  • I believe that Trump is right and is defending the people who fought for America, etc. What NFL players are doing is irresponsible and rude to many people and the country.
    natbarons
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  • Yes, many viewers of sports might agree with Trump’s statement.
  • WhyTrumpWhyTrump 158 PtsPremium Member
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    @natbarons, I wouldn't underestimate the NFL fans 
    WhyTrump - a good question
  • Trump should not involve himself in sports, etc. due to controversy.
  • WhyTrumpWhyTrump 158 PtsPremium Member
    Premium Member
    @CYDdharta, it's not conclusive yet that it's down because of Trump, although I would expect it to be. That is likely not good for NFL either, but I can't see how picking this battle with NFL will be good for Trump. 
    WhyTrump - a good question
  • WakeWake 119 Pts
    I couldn't care less what Trump had to say. But I fought for my country and I do not like millionaires dissing my flag. I will never watch another football game including college football and I won't support a single advertiser of NFL or NBA.
  • CYDdhartaCYDdharta 314 PtsPremium Member
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    WhyTrump said:
    @CYDdharta, it's not conclusive yet that it's down because of Trump, although I would expect it to be. That is likely not good for NFL either, but I can't see how picking this battle with NFL will be good for Trump. 

    It certainly doesn't seem to be hurting Ttrump, but the lower ratings do suggest there is more support for Trump's position than the NFL's
  • NFL Players were being disrespectful, now Trump is giving them a piece of his mind! America stands with Patriotism! Not Anti-American bastards!
    "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? " ~Epicurus

    "We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes." ~Gene Roddenberry


  • ErfisflatErfisflat 671 PtsPremium Member
    edited September 28 Premium Member
    Being disrespectful towards a piece of dyed cloth? Seriously. It's not like they're spitting on a vet's grave. The USGS has turned the flag into a mini-god. This is blasphemous, it is actually against most religions to bow or show that much reverence to any graven image/idol. My dad and my grandad fought for the country, and my freedom. Most importantly, the freedom to NOT to have to bow down or salute anyone or anything.
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

  • ErfisflatErfisflat 671 PtsPremium Member
    edited September 28 Premium Member
    If I brought an atheist into my home, I wouldn't whine if he didn't bow his head when my family prayed. This is no different.
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

  • ErfisflatErfisflat 671 PtsPremium Member
    Premium Member
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

  • ErfisflatErfisflat 671 PtsPremium Member
    Premium Member

    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

  • VaulkVaulk 253 Pts
    Well, whether or not he should...I dunno.  I recall Presidents that when someone stepped out of line...they would come on TV and give them a tongue lashing...calling for shame and dishonor upon that person or organization.  And it seems...that the NFL has bent over the barrel for Trump already.  Shame is a critical part of our culture and when people do things and present no shame for them...we are responsible as fellow Citizens to bring shame upon them.  Trump took it upon himself to shame the Football players for what they're doing...and it seems to have worked.
    "If there's no such thing as a stupid question then what kind of questions do stupid people ask"?

    "There's going to be a special place in Hell for people who spread lies through the veil of logical fallacies disguised as rational argument".

    "Oh, you don't like my sarcasm?  Well I don't much appreciate your stupid".


  • ErfisflatErfisflat 671 PtsPremium Member
    Premium Member


    I'm going to continue being that guy.
    agsr
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

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