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Who wants to talk about propulsion of a interstellar space ship? No one. Really people.

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Nuclear power, Solar sails, antimatter, Black holes. Get ready to get confused or if no one wants to talk about it bored cause we are diving int to astrophysics where we talk about stuff we know nothing about. 
  1. So how wants to discus interstellar propulsion?

    3 votes
    1. No thanks
      33.33%
    2. O I do! pick me pick me
      66.67%

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  • Technically, this is a logical paradox, though minor. If I say "I don't want to talk about spaceships", I've just mentioned spaceships, and contradicted myself. But I won't speak of it in the future until this discussion gets more attention. Not really interested in rocket science.
  • I used to like all that science fiction.
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

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  • NopeNope 174 Pts
    Well I tried. : )
  • NopeNope 174 Pts
    Rocket science! Does solar sails and propulsion throu black hole hoking radiation sound like rocket science. Does antimatter and nuclear fusion sound like rocket science. DOES COMBUSTION SOUND LIKE ROCKET SCIENCE! Will goof because that one should.
  • What about propulsion and or combustion in a vacuum? Impossible. Sci-fi.
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

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  • Space doesn't exist
    Erfisflat
     
  • NopeNope 174 Pts
    Solar sails use the solar winds or super and I am taking massive lasers to move. Combustion can happen with fuel and oxygen as long as you bring them both with you. Antimatter and matter are all that is needed for that kind of propulsion. Black holes are all you need for that propulsion. You don't need to be surrounded in air for any of the propulsion I mentioned. And space being a vacuum is debatable. It is not the case in many theory about the universe. : )
  • NopeNope 174 Pts
    SilverishGoldNova Your claim is a hard one to prove. 
  • AmpersandAmpersand 79 Pts
    edited October 2017
    @Erfisflat

    Rocket fuel is high oxygen or contains another oxidant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_propellant so it doesn't have to rely on oxygen being provided externally. There are also other forms of propulsion for orbital manoeuvres.

    I'm assuming that's what your issue with combustion is. No idea why you are against propulsion. If anything it's easier in space as you don't have to worry about slowing down.
  • NopeNope 174 Pts
    My issue with combustion is, it out of the five forms of propulsion i mentioned, extremely not efficient.
  • Well it's all relative. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion) is actually super efficient in some ways but also a theoretical flying war crime on the other.
  • NopeNope 174 Pts
    Ampersand As efficient as nuclear propulsion my be, even through it is closer to current technology, it is not as efficient as antimatter matter reactions which release like all the energy stored in the atom compared to nuclear propulsion less then 1%. Black hole are also more efficient. Combustion for Interstellar travel is just not realistic. 
  • "Rocket fuel is high oxygen or contains another oxidant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_propellant so it doesn't have to rely on oxygen being provided externally. There are also other forms of propulsion for orbital manoeuvres."

    Gun powder contains it's own oxidant, and experimentation shows that it doesn't combust in a vacuum. 



    "I'm assuming that's what your issue with combustion is. No idea why you are against propulsion. If anything it's easier in space as you don't have to worry about slowing down."

    Cars push off the road, boats push off of water, and planes push off the air. You can't push off of a vacuum. Anyone who applies basic logic will understand. 


    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

    https://www.gofundme.com/mwmvf-is-the-earth-flat
  • NopeNope 174 Pts
    Erfisflat I think you don't understand. Newtons third law says for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Many of the mentioned I suggested shoot out energy. Energy goes one way and according to Newtons third law the space ship goes the other. Their is no need for for any thing ous. If anything air would cause friction that wold slow the ship down. First comparing a gun to a rocket does not prove much, and seconded Guns can shoot in space. https://gizmodo.com/can-you-shoot-a-gun-in-space-1681161226 or https://www.livescience.com/18588-shoot-gun-space.html or https://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/what-if/what-if-shot-gun-in-space.htm
  • NopeNope 174 Pts
    Erfisflat I think you don't understand. Newtons third law says for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Many of the mentioned I suggested shoot out energy. Energy goes one way and according to Newtons third law the space ship goes the other. Their is no need for for any thing ous. If anything air would cause friction that wold slow the ship down. First comparing gun powder to a rocket does not prove much, and seconded Guns can shoot in space. https://gizmodo.com/can-you-shoot-a-gun-in-space-1681161226 or https://www.livescience.com/18588-shoot-gun-space.html or https://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/what-if/what-if-shot-gun-in-space.htm
  • NopeNope 174 Pts
    Erfisflat I think you don't understand. Newtons third law says for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Many of the mentioned I suggested shoot out energy. Energy goes one way and according to Newtons third law the space ship goes the other. Their is no need for for any thing ous. If anything air would cause friction that wold slow the ship down. First comparing gun powder to a rocket does not prove much, and seconded Guns can shoot in space. https://gizmodo.com/can-you-shoot-a-gun-in-space-1681161226 or https://www.livescience.com/18588-shoot-gun-space.html or https://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/what-if/what-if-shot-gun-in-space.htm
  • NopeNope 174 Pts
    PowerPikachu21 Well what you say is true. You don't have to talk. In fact you probably can not talk to me. But you can type. I have not created a paradoxes. 
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 847 Pts
    edited November 2017
    @Nope
    See, there's a big difference between saying what will happen hypothetically, and SHOWING that something can't happen. In an infinitely expanding vacuum, the energy would be lost immediately, expanding with the rest of the universe, and the rocket would remain stationary. Here's an engineer with the details, learn something.

    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

    https://www.gofundme.com/mwmvf-is-the-earth-flat
  • Erfisflat My school computer won't let me watch the video. : (  I will try finding it on Ytube.
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