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Is there truely a "Hell" in the bible? (As in an everlasting lake of fire)

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  • Hey!

    I would argue that there is a hell in the Bible, but I would disagree that it is just an eternal lake of fire. There are multiple mentions to hell in the Bible, of which I will list two. The first one is when Jesus says something like "If your left eye sins against you, remove it, so that your whole body will not suffer in Gehena." The second one is when servents are invited to a banquet, but those who don't dress for the occasion are condemned by the king. He throws them out saying, "Take these men and toss them into the dark where there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth." 

    From the Bible, therefore, it is clear that hell exists, and Jesus alluedes to them in the parables that he tells his followers. What I would disagree about is that hell is a eternal lake of fire. As humans, we do not know what hell is like, but what we can see is that God punishes people fitting to the crime the have done. When Lot and his family are fleeing a burning city that God started to punish the people for sin, God commands no person to turn around to the city, yet Lot's wife does and gets turned into a pillar of salt, so just as the city was wasteful and empty, so a pillar of salt is empty and useless. 

    One good book I might suggest is Dante's Inferno, and although the book is hypothetical, Dante as you would (tours) hell in a dream God gave him. Though some details may have been left out or miswritten, when Dante goes to a new location, people suffer in a new way based on the crime committed. For instance, the lustful are trapped in a tornado where they bash their heads on the rocks before travelling with a new woman in the storm. The betrayers are stuck in ice, closest to Satan for his betrayal of God. Finally, the people who became engrossed with the past to not look to the present or future are forced to walk an eternal path with their heads fastened 180 to look behind as they walk. No human can understand what hell is like, only in death or ressurection will we possibly understand what hell appears to be. 

    Thank you for your time.
    SilverishGoldNovafea
  • @WilliamSchulz Ah, interesting. Great argument. 
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  • @SilverishGoldNova

    I believe there are 3 different concepts in Hebrew/Greek that are translated into English as one word.

    I also believe that the only time "the lake of fire" is mentioned is in Revelation referring to where Satan, death, hell, demons, and "followers of the beast" are thrown.
    SilverishGoldNovafea
  • @brontoraptor Many instances of hell in the bible are simply mistranslations, I will say that.
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  • Ah, well, eschatologically speaking, it varies.

    Hell is often "Hades." In the New Testament, Hades is depicted to mean the grave where all go until the Day of Judgment--those whose name is in the book of life go to God's kingdom and those whose name did not manage to be in the book are sent to the lake of fire, also called the second death. The term for Hades is the Old Testament is Sheol. 

    In Revelation 20:14, we see: "Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death." If we take Hades (other translations use "hell") to be a literal aspect, then we can reasonably say hell is most likely not eternal itself, but the lake of fire is. 

    Theologians often consider it symbolic because it's coupled with "death," which is posed to be the last enemy according to Paul. It's considered personified, and being representative of the first death (the wage of sin), now being "killed again" again (spiritual death). Others take "hell" (or "Hades") to mean the actual place (the grave.) Since the day of Judgment had come, there'd be no use for it, thus it being tossed into the lake of fire. 

    When we extend the verse to 15, we see: "Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire."

    The "book of life" is for all those who received eternal life in Jesus Christ. And those who had not received it, who had not believed, were thrown into the lake of fire to experience the second death, or "spiritual death."

    People consider this to mean tat the soul of those whose names were not written are dying. If we consider what Paul said when he spoke of the eternal life and wage of sin, then it appears the most logical standpoint. The wage of sin is death. For those who believe, they don't experience death for they are granted eternal life. This is, definitely, not a comment referencing the physical bodies as even the physical bodies of believers die, so we can now this means the spiritual bodies. If someone, after the physical death, is still alive but without God, then they are still reasonably alive, even if suffering. if the are to experience torture for eternity, then they are still alive, but suffering. So on and so forth down that vein. So with these passages, an easy conclusion can be reached, resulting in annihilationists. 

    Universalism is another fun concept, but this post is more geared towards the existence of hell as an eternal place, which I answered in the literal depiction of Revelation. 
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