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Is there "Hell" and "Heaven" after life?

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ale5ale5 168 Pts
Is hell and heaven real, or just something made up to scare people into obedience?
billpassed
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    19 votes
    1. Hell and Heaven are real
      42.11%
    2. Hell and Heaven just made up
      57.89%
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  • It is neither real or made up.  The definition of hell is figurative and many religions have different versions of it.
    WhyTrump - a good question
  • LogicLogic 232 Pts
    No one can say for sure, But believing a heaven and hell, Has a better reward, Then a non purposeful life. I mean if you ARE right, You get heaven.
    If you aren't, Well... To put it simply, You might not even be aware to care that it doesn't exist. 
    DrCereal
  • inc4tinc4t 156 Pts
    @Logic, great point. If it is real to you then it's real and provides a purposeful life. The downside of believing in that is rather little for more people.  That said, some people would rather not believe in it, and it is completely their right - nothing wrong with that too.
  • LogicLogic 232 Pts
    @inc4t  Well said man! It's all about free will. So we should all use it the way, In which it pleases us.
  • Excellent points from @inc4t and @Logic.  The very nature of Heaven and Hell implies that they cannot be proven to be true or false.  Science can only prove what exists physically.  Heaven, Hell, God, etc. by definition are not physical entities, so we can never prove their existence using science.  It's simply a question of faith, which is why I say they do exist.
    inc4t
  • @AveMaria, as you pointed out it all comes back to faith. No one will be able to categorically prove to disprove. So it it reasonable for you to believe In whatever makes you more comfortable. 
    billpassedLogic
    WhyTrump - a good question
  • I agree with @whytrump .
  • I really think it depends because different religions believe in these things. I personally believe in it because for Christian people if you sin, you might go to hell because that's what people believe. But when you stay free of really bad sins because then God wants you to go heaven and live with him in the afterlife. I do think it depends for everyone but I think these things exist.
  • It's a metaphor about having an eternal state even after death because everyone will remember and talk about your existence because of your good deeds or good achievements. Hell is where you're always remembered for your sins and therefore tortured burning and gnashing of teeth.
  • edited August 2017
    That depends on what you are talking about. Religions have many different views of heaven or hell and some have neither, and we all have different interpretations. 
     
  • Logic i Disagree if you are wrong then you might have spent your only moments of existent trying to get in to heaven rather then trying to enjoy life as much as possble and you miss 
  • Yes, very real.  And Hell has nothing to do with scaring people into obedience.  You are dead in sin but for God saving you, which means you are unable to obey.  You go to Hell as the just punishment for your sin.
    DrCereal
  • Hell contradicts the Christian God's loving and just nature as most Christian believers in the idea of Hell will tell you that it’s a place of punishment for sinners and evildoers. But does that idea have a scriptural basis? According to Romans 6:7, “he that is dead is freed from sin.” So if a person’s sins are cleared with his or her death, then what’s with the additional punishment of Hell? Well, Romans 6:23 goes on to state that “the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.” Note that there is no mention of sinners being condemned to everlasting torture, they simply don’t get the reward for living a righteous life.
  • @Nope I have managed to perfectly enjoy my life as i pray 5 times a day and fast [and other religious acts].  I am quite surprised you are under the impression religion will make you miss out on many "enjoyable" things in life, As many religious people live perfectly fine lives even with the minimal restrictions of religion [which all benefit them].
    Regards - Logic
  • Yes, very real.
    DrCereal
  • @ViceRegent, what is your evidence for it being real?
    DrCereal
    It's kind of fun to do the impossible
    - Walt Disney
  • Logic That is why I said might. For people like me who only believes things with a convincing amount of evidence preying because I have nothing to loose won't be that enjoyable. Devoting their lives to god or just paring may be enjoyable to some to others such as myself may find in not enjoyable. My point was some people may have something to loose. 
  • There is no physical heaven or hell. Let me state that in revelations there is a lake of fire where people get thrown into and erased from existence. There is no eternal torture and surely with any interpretable description made by bible scholars, none of those descriptions fit a place in our observable universe. It is now in my lifetime that I realised that Jesus is the man responsible for mentioning the gnashing and burning of teeth with his parable of the talents in the end. This therefore simply refers to sufferings and consequences for men and women who don't do things at all or properly. 

    Heaven on the other hand is usually depicted as some water vapour realm I myself wouldn't want my two feet to step on and live mindlessly for the rest of my life. 

    All these are simply depictions and interpretations, until a lie detector turns green to someone who states they've seen heaven and hell, I'm not believing in such realms. Thinking of heaven more than your present life is exactly why I'd rather make the most of my time and have something to lose which is my life because it helps to actually pray never but do more. 


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