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The earth is flat

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  • AlwaysCorrectAlwaysCorrect 279 Pts   -  
    Erfisflat said:
    Please get back to arguing about whether the earth is flat. I occasionally browse this thread for the comedy value and insulting each other with memes and image macros just don't do it for me.
    Too bad you refuse to join the conversation. I'm not able to get on as much lately, sorry to all for any delays.
    I don't see the point in arguing this particular topic. On the other hand I do get soem enjoyment from a quick browse through sometimes.  more posts like  http://debateisland.com/discussion/comment/6764/#Comment_6764 and http://debateisland.com/discussion/comment/4480/#Comment_4480 please.
  • SilverishGoldNovaSilverishGoldNova 1201 Pts   -  
    @AlwaysCorrect Tbh this entire thread went from a discussion about the flat Earth to fallacious fights about religion and meme wars
    I am no longer active on DebateIsland or any debate website. Many things I have posted here and on other sites (Such as believing in the flat Earth theory or other conspiracy theories such as those that are about the Las Vegas Shooting or 9/11) do not reflect on my current views. 

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p6M-VgXHwwdpJarhyQYapBz-kRc6FrgdOLFAd3IfYz8/edit

    https://debateisland.com/discussion/comment/18248/#Comment_18248 (Me officially stating that I am no longer a flat-Earther)
  • SilverishGoldNovaSilverishGoldNova 1201 Pts   -  
    @Coveny I wouldnt mind seeing your response to this photo from above 317,000 feet.

    https://gyazo.com/da93db705244a5db3c5e530f3e2eae76
    Erfisflat
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    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p6M-VgXHwwdpJarhyQYapBz-kRc6FrgdOLFAd3IfYz8/edit

    https://debateisland.com/discussion/comment/18248/#Comment_18248 (Me officially stating that I am no longer a flat-Earther)
  • WoodenWoodWoodenWood 49 Pts   -  
    @Erfisflat I find it very interesting you admit to google searching all of this flat Earth "research", yet you are mocking people for trusting their science books.
    SilverishGoldNovaErfisflatCovenyEvidence
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 1675 Pts   -  
    @AlwaysCorrect
    I don't see the point in arguing this particular topic.

    Geocentric earth is the automatic God proof, but if you don't get it, I understand. 

      more posts like...



    Quick question, I'm trying to find an accurate animation that explains the upcoming eclipse. I thought timeanddate.com would help, they're usually correct about stuff like that but their animation shows the earth spinning the wrong way.

    (3D Eclipse Animation)

    https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/solar/2017-august-21

    This is probably the last nail in the coffin for the ball earth for me.
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

    The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.

    Wayne Dyer
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 1675 Pts   -  
    @WoodenWood
    Most of what I bring here is verifiable information, no conclusive ball earth science is verifiable, which makes it all pseudoscience. 
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

    The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.

    Wayne Dyer
  • CovenyCoveny 419 Pts   -  
    @Coveny I wouldnt mind seeing your response to this photo from above 317,000 feet.

    https://gyazo.com/da93db705244a5db3c5e530f3e2eae76
    My response is that is a horrible picture.
    SilverishGoldNova
  • CovenyCoveny 419 Pts   -  
    Erfisflat said:
    @WoodenWood
    Most of what I bring here is verifiable information, no conclusive ball earth science is verifiable, which makes it all pseudoscience. 
    @WoodenWood none of what Erfisflat brings here is verifiable or information, and he's against science... making him nothing BUT pseudoscience.
    ErfisflatWoodenWoodEvidenceSilverishGoldNova
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 1675 Pts   -  
    Coveny said:
    Erfisflat said:
    @WoodenWood
    Most of what I bring here is verifiable information, no conclusive ball earth science is verifiable, which makes it all pseudoscience. 
    @WoodenWood none of what Erfisflat brings here is verifiable or information, and he's against science... making him nothing BUT pseudoscience.
    The usual "nuh-uh", like i said @SilverishGoldNova
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

    The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.

    Wayne Dyer
  • SilverishGoldNovaSilverishGoldNova 1201 Pts   -  
    @Coveny Thats actually a very mindblowing rebuttal, wow, "garbage picture", you've convinced me, wow.

    Just kidding, this is the second time you've used appeal to the stone when replying to me. 
    I am no longer active on DebateIsland or any debate website. Many things I have posted here and on other sites (Such as believing in the flat Earth theory or other conspiracy theories such as those that are about the Las Vegas Shooting or 9/11) do not reflect on my current views. 

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p6M-VgXHwwdpJarhyQYapBz-kRc6FrgdOLFAd3IfYz8/edit

    https://debateisland.com/discussion/comment/18248/#Comment_18248 (Me officially stating that I am no longer a flat-Earther)
  • CovenyCoveny 419 Pts   -  
    Erfisflat said:
    The usual "nuh-uh", like i said @SilverishGoldNova
    Maybe if you could add something that was scientific I would give you some credit. Instead it's all NASA is lie in Hebrew, I need a tinfoil hat, UN is stopping us from finding out the flat world truth in Antarctica, we don't know why that is, we don't know why they are stopping us, perspective is the reason trash floats, and refraction is why men have penises or some such s***.
    SilverishGoldNova
  • CovenyCoveny 419 Pts   -  
    @Coveny Thats actually a very mindblowing rebuttal, wow, "garbage picture", you've convinced me, wow.

    Just kidding, this is the second time you've used appeal to the stone when replying to me. 
    It's a picture, the proof that it's absurd is in the picture. I can show you many many pictures of the curvature of the earth that are good enough quality to discern the curvature just ask. However early on in this debate everything from NASA (and the rest of the world) was dismissed as absurd because it was deemed as a Photoshop creation, or a fish eye lens. If you are interested in a picture showing the curvature here ya go.

    https://www.nasa.gov/feature/top-15-earth-images-of-2015


    SilverishGoldNova
  • SilverishGoldNovaSilverishGoldNova 1201 Pts   -   edited August 2017
    @Coveny , an image showing a flat Horizon, from the height we are told we can see curvature? I'm starting to think you've secretly conceded your position about the globe. 
    I am no longer active on DebateIsland or any debate website. Many things I have posted here and on other sites (Such as believing in the flat Earth theory or other conspiracy theories such as those that are about the Las Vegas Shooting or 9/11) do not reflect on my current views. 

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p6M-VgXHwwdpJarhyQYapBz-kRc6FrgdOLFAd3IfYz8/edit

    https://debateisland.com/discussion/comment/18248/#Comment_18248 (Me officially stating that I am no longer a flat-Earther)
  • SilverishGoldNovaSilverishGoldNova 1201 Pts   -  
    @Coveny Or are you actually trying to say that image shows the curvature? 
    I am no longer active on DebateIsland or any debate website. Many things I have posted here and on other sites (Such as believing in the flat Earth theory or other conspiracy theories such as those that are about the Las Vegas Shooting or 9/11) do not reflect on my current views. 

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p6M-VgXHwwdpJarhyQYapBz-kRc6FrgdOLFAd3IfYz8/edit

    https://debateisland.com/discussion/comment/18248/#Comment_18248 (Me officially stating that I am no longer a flat-Earther)
  • SilverishGoldNovaSilverishGoldNova 1201 Pts   -  
     Or if your finally rebuttal is image quality, here we go.
    I am no longer active on DebateIsland or any debate website. Many things I have posted here and on other sites (Such as believing in the flat Earth theory or other conspiracy theories such as those that are about the Las Vegas Shooting or 9/11) do not reflect on my current views. 

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p6M-VgXHwwdpJarhyQYapBz-kRc6FrgdOLFAd3IfYz8/edit

    https://debateisland.com/discussion/comment/18248/#Comment_18248 (Me officially stating that I am no longer a flat-Earther)
  • CovenyCoveny 419 Pts   -  
    @Coveny Or are you actually trying to say that image shows the curvature? 
    I thought it was pretty clear when I said the picture was garbage what I was trying to say. Um the picture is a bad picture. I'm sorry but there is only a certain level a I can go down to when explaining things, if you have a problem with "That picture is garbage" I'm not sure how much more I can break it down for you.
  • CovenyCoveny 419 Pts   -  
     Or if your finally rebuttal is image quality, here we go.
    Well that's better quality, and it does appear to be flat. So I guess airplane glass and whatever other you've claimed forces the curve didn't "work" this time? What is that black line over the clouds that looks like superman? No really nothing leaves a black line...

    On a serious note where did you get the picture, who took it, blah, blah, blah. This could easily be shopped, so I'd prefer to go to the source of the picture rather just some random picture without context. What is it when they show who's had an item from someone famous? I can't remember the word they use for it for some reason. It's used to prove the authenticity of the item.
    SilverishGoldNova
  • SilverishGoldNovaSilverishGoldNova 1201 Pts   -   edited August 2017
    @Coveny It's actually from a hot air balloon.  

    We are told we can see curvature from an airplane (from around 35,000 feet) or even from a top of a building. Meanwhile...

    At both of these heights we should see significant curvature.

    "I thought it was pretty clear when I said the picture was garbage what I was trying to say. Um the picture is a bad picture. I'm sorry but there is only a certain level a I can go down to when explaining things, if you have a problem with "That picture is garbage" I'm not sure how much more I can break it down for you." I was talking about the image you showed.

    Also, if your only rebuttal to this image is image quality,

    Is the picture from 121,000 feet good enough

    Or are you going to continue to mutter " nuh uh garbage"
    Erfisflat
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    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p6M-VgXHwwdpJarhyQYapBz-kRc6FrgdOLFAd3IfYz8/edit

    https://debateisland.com/discussion/comment/18248/#Comment_18248 (Me officially stating that I am no longer a flat-Earther)
  • SilverishGoldNovaSilverishGoldNova 1201 Pts   -  

    Or if your foremost and final rebuttal is simply "image quality"...

    Erfisflat
    I am no longer active on DebateIsland or any debate website. Many things I have posted here and on other sites (Such as believing in the flat Earth theory or other conspiracy theories such as those that are about the Las Vegas Shooting or 9/11) do not reflect on my current views. 

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p6M-VgXHwwdpJarhyQYapBz-kRc6FrgdOLFAd3IfYz8/edit

    https://debateisland.com/discussion/comment/18248/#Comment_18248 (Me officially stating that I am no longer a flat-Earther)
  • SilverishGoldNovaSilverishGoldNova 1201 Pts   -  

    Or if your foremost and final rebuttal is simply "image quality"...

    I am no longer active on DebateIsland or any debate website. Many things I have posted here and on other sites (Such as believing in the flat Earth theory or other conspiracy theories such as those that are about the Las Vegas Shooting or 9/11) do not reflect on my current views. 

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p6M-VgXHwwdpJarhyQYapBz-kRc6FrgdOLFAd3IfYz8/edit

    https://debateisland.com/discussion/comment/18248/#Comment_18248 (Me officially stating that I am no longer a flat-Earther)
  • CovenyCoveny 419 Pts   -   edited September 2017
    @Coveny It's actually from a hot air balloon.  

    We are told we can see curvature from an airplane (from around 35,000 feet) or even from a top of a building. Meanwhile...

    At both of these heights we should see significant curvature.

    Also, if your only rebuttal to this image is image quality,

    Is the picture from 121,000 feet good enough

    Or are you going to continue to mutter " nuh uh garbage"
    The hot air balloon footage looks like a photograph they moved a camera around on to me, it's 4 minutes of the clouds not moving. Given the large number of amateur videos out there of people with balloons capturing the curvature of the earth my assumption is they took one and shopped a picture of it.

    As for you garbage picture the view area is so small it's about useless, and it's nothing but clouds which also makes it completely useless.
    ErfisflatSilverishGoldNovaEvidence
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 1675 Pts   -   edited August 2017


    Number one picture of the earth from @coveny link above. This desert seems to cover 1/4 of the earth's surface! Or is this one of those fabricated mars pictures that got mixed in accidentally? Those tricky tricksters!

    https://www.nasa.gov/feature/top-15-earth-images-of-2015
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

    The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.

    Wayne Dyer
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 1675 Pts   -  
    @SilverishGoldNova ;@Coveny says it's faked, only reason for the claim: "it's 4 minutes of the clouds not moving." 
    Jebus titty f-ing chrise man, i don't see how you can continue on with that circular reasoning, from 20 miles away, unless we're looking at the eye of a hurricane, you won't see much cloud movement.

    "my assumption is they took one and shopped a picture of it."

    Lol
    SilverishGoldNova
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

    The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.

    Wayne Dyer
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 1675 Pts   -  
    Modern astronomy has absolutely convinced the world, as George Bernard Shaw stated, that nothing that is obvious is true. It is obvious that the earth is flat, yet they say it's curved.

    Obvious that the earth is motionless, yet they say we are moving through an infinite vacuum at 1,000 km per second in all manner of direction at a time.



    It is obvious that the heavens revolve around us, yet they say we are the ones revolving.



    Obvious that the stars are stars, but we are told they are more suns.
    Obvious that the stars are smaller than the sun, but we are told the opposite. Obvious that the sun and moon are the same size, though they say the sun is 400x bigger, and 400x further away. Obvious that we are living on the only "plane(t), but we're to believe there are over a septillian other places to go. It's blatantly obvious that up is up and down is down, yet they say it isn't so.






    Evidence
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

    The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.

    Wayne Dyer
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 1675 Pts   -  
    First ever picture from space.


    http://www.airspacemag.com/space/the-first-photo-from-space-13721411/

    You could put a laser level on that.
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

    The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.

    Wayne Dyer
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 1675 Pts   -  
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

    The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.

    Wayne Dyer
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 1675 Pts   -  
    “The ice-barrier, so frequently referred to in accounts of the Antarctic regions, is the fore-front of the enormous glacier-covering, or ice-cap, which, accumulating in vast, undulating fields from the heavy snowfall, and ultimately attaining hundreds, if not thousands, of feet in thickness, creeps from the continent of Antarctica into the polar sea. The ice-barrier, yet a part of the parent ice-cap, presents itself to the navigator who has boldness enough to approach its fearful front, as a solid, perpendicular wall of marble-like ice, ranging from one thousand to two thousand feet in thickness, of which from one hundred to two hundred feet rises above, and from eight hundred to eighteen hundred feet sinks below, the level of the sea.” -Greely, General A. W. “Antarctica, or the Hypothetical Southern Continent.” Cosmopolitan 17 (1894): p. 296
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

    The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.

    Wayne Dyer
  • 1Hacker01Hacker0 91 Pts   -  
    If the Earth is flat, then how do you explain WW2? How do you explain the Russian Empire? How do you explain time zones? If you don't believe the government or NASA, then what about the countless reports of seeing curvature while flying on a plane? When boats go further into the sea, our view suggests that they "sink" into the water, but when we go on elevated ground we can see the boats normal again. There are many reports of this from non-government sources as well. How come every single one of these proofs happen to be a fabrication by the government, but every single one of your proofs happen to not be fabrications. I can simply say that all of your proofs are propaganda and all of our proofs are valid.
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 1675 Pts   -   edited August 2017
    1Hacker0 said:
    If the Earth is flat, then how do you explain WW2? How do you explain the Russian Empire? How do you explain time zones? If you don't believe the government or NASA, then what about the countless reports of seeing curvature while flying on a plane? When boats go further into the sea, our view suggests that they "sink" into the water, but when we go on elevated ground we can see the boats normal again. There are many reports of this from non-government sources as well. How come every single one of these proofs happen to be a fabrication by the government, but every single one of your proofs happen to not be fabrications. I can simply say that all of your proofs are propaganda and all of our proofs are valid.

    Please take the time to read through the posts, I have addressed all (EDIT: most) your concerns already. Unless you want this one @SilverishGoldNova, or, virtually anyone who's read the posts.
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

    The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.

    Wayne Dyer
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 1675 Pts   -   edited August 2017
    1Hacker0 said:
    "If the Earth is flat, then how do you explain WW2? How do you explain the Russian Empire? "

    You'll have to explain how these are relevant.
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

    The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.

    Wayne Dyer
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 1675 Pts   -  
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

    The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.

    Wayne Dyer
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 1675 Pts   -  

    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

    The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.

    Wayne Dyer
  • SilverishGoldNovaSilverishGoldNova 1201 Pts   -   edited August 2017
    @1Hacker0 ;"If the Earth is flat, then how do you explain WW2? How do you explain the Russian Empire? "

    First explain how these are in any way relevant.

    "How do you explain time zones?"
    Image result for spotlight sun gif

     "If you don't believe the government or NASA, then what about the countless reports of seeing curvature while flying on a plane?"

    A commercial airliner typically goes around 35,000 feet. This is the height we are told we can start seeing curvature.


    Image result for curvature 121000 feet
    Image result for curvature 317000 feet

    121,000 and 317,000 feet. At both of these heights we should see curvature. The reason we see curvature at the height of a plane is the curved glass artificially curves the Earth. 

    "When boats go further into the sea, our view suggests that they "sink" into the water, but when we go on elevated ground we can see the boats normal again"

    So, you've in 1 way refuted the boats over the horizon argument. 



    "How come every single one of these proofs happen to be a fabrication by the government, but every single one of your proofs happen to not be fabrications."

    NASA imagery has been proven to be false, via NASA's own admission! They say that all of the images they take are just composities, paintings, or CGI. 

    And I thought Coveny was at entry level research....
    Erfisflat
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    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p6M-VgXHwwdpJarhyQYapBz-kRc6FrgdOLFAd3IfYz8/edit

    https://debateisland.com/discussion/comment/18248/#Comment_18248 (Me officially stating that I am no longer a flat-Earther)
  • SilverishGoldNovaSilverishGoldNova 1201 Pts   -  
    @Coveny "The hot air balloon footage looks like a photograph they moved a camera around on to me, it's 4 minutes of the clouds not moving. Given the large number of amateur videos out there of people with balloons capturing the curvature of the earth my assumption is they took one and shopped a picture of it."

    Ever heard of a fish eye lense?

     Image result for fish eye lense

    "As for you garbage picture the view area is so small it's about useless, and it's nothing but clouds which also makes it completely useless. As for the poor quality, ya it's got that too, but that's not what makes it a garbage photo."

    I thought you were arguing that it was bad because of the image quality?

    "It's a picture, the proof that it's absurd is in the picture. I can show you many many pictures of the curvature of the earth that are good enough quality to discern the curvature just ask."

    The fact that it is all clouds does not change whether it appears flat or round. If you have suddenly decided to jump to field of view, this is the same footage, but you see a wider field of view.

    Image result for 317000 feet
    I am no longer active on DebateIsland or any debate website. Many things I have posted here and on other sites (Such as believing in the flat Earth theory or other conspiracy theories such as those that are about the Las Vegas Shooting or 9/11) do not reflect on my current views. 

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p6M-VgXHwwdpJarhyQYapBz-kRc6FrgdOLFAd3IfYz8/edit

    https://debateisland.com/discussion/comment/18248/#Comment_18248 (Me officially stating that I am no longer a flat-Earther)
  • CovenyCoveny 419 Pts   -  
    Erfisflat said:


    Number one picture of the earth from @coveny link above. This desert seems to cover 1/4 of the earth's surface! Or is this one of those fabricated mars pictures that got mixed in accidentally? Those tricky tricksters!

    https://www.nasa.gov/feature/top-15-earth-images-of-2015
    Lake Chad basin 600 miles it's gonna look big even from space, but 1/4 of the earth's surface? Um NO it doesn't look to cover an 16th of the earth's surface. This is your big "proof"?
  • CovenyCoveny 419 Pts   -  
    Ever heard of a fish eye lense?

    I thought you were arguing that it was bad because of the image quality?

    The fact that it is all clouds does not change whether it appears flat or round. If you have suddenly decided to jump to field of view, this is the same footage, but you see a wider field of view.

    Image result for 317000 feet
    Sure, have you ever heard of Photoshop?

    Don't lie you weren't thinking...

    Have ever heard of clouds? They form at many different levels in the sky and it's easy to take a picture of them with a black background. 
  • FredsnephewFredsnephew 361 Pts   -  
    Just out of interest.
    Are we upside down.
    Or are we the right way up. 
    Coveny
  • FredsnephewFredsnephew 361 Pts   -  
    Or maybe even sideways on.
  • FredsnephewFredsnephew 361 Pts   -  
    Or at a jaunty sort of angle.
    Like a Frenchmans beret.  
  • SilverishGoldNovaSilverishGoldNova 1201 Pts   -  
    @Coveny

    "Don't lie you werent thinking"- This, coming from the guy who claims to have debunked the flat Earth by calling everyone and muttering "" "nun uh" and "clouds" for a month


    WoodenWood
    I am no longer active on DebateIsland or any debate website. Many things I have posted here and on other sites (Such as believing in the flat Earth theory or other conspiracy theories such as those that are about the Las Vegas Shooting or 9/11) do not reflect on my current views. 

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p6M-VgXHwwdpJarhyQYapBz-kRc6FrgdOLFAd3IfYz8/edit

    https://debateisland.com/discussion/comment/18248/#Comment_18248 (Me officially stating that I am no longer a flat-Earther)
  • SilverishGoldNovaSilverishGoldNova 1201 Pts   -   edited August 2017
    @Coveny NASA has literaly admitted their images have been faked except for the moon landings which for a million times have been thoroughly debunked. With you, you are just  claiming the black backgrounds debunk the photo
    WoodenWood
    I am no longer active on DebateIsland or any debate website. Many things I have posted here and on other sites (Such as believing in the flat Earth theory or other conspiracy theories such as those that are about the Las Vegas Shooting or 9/11) do not reflect on my current views. 

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p6M-VgXHwwdpJarhyQYapBz-kRc6FrgdOLFAd3IfYz8/edit

    https://debateisland.com/discussion/comment/18248/#Comment_18248 (Me officially stating that I am no longer a flat-Earther)
  • CovenyCoveny 419 Pts   -  
    @Coveny

    "Don't lie you werent thinking"- This, coming from the guy who claims to have debunked the flat Earth by calling everyone and muttering "" "nun uh" and "clouds" for a month
    I didn't claim to debunk flat earth. It would be like claiming to have debunked wizards. I only started the smack talk and insult after they were directed at me, same holds true for the , nun uh, clouds, and Photoshop, you dingbats have no problem dismissing science with that crap, but cry fowl when someone uses the same techniques to dismiss your drivel? Sounds hypocritical to me, but hey keep up the blind faith in the flat earth, just keep it to yourself if you want me to leave you alone.
    m_abusteitSilverishGoldNova
  • CovenyCoveny 419 Pts   -  
    @Coveny NASA has literaly admitted their images have been faked except for the moon landings which for a million times have been thoroughly debunked. With you, you are just  claiming the black backgrounds debunk the photo
    No NASA did not admitted their images were faked... ever. They said their real images weren't aesthetically pleasing so they Photoshopped them so they were, and were completely upfront and honest about what they were doing. That's not fake in any form of the word.
    SilverishGoldNovaErfisflatm_abusteit
  • SilverishGoldNovaSilverishGoldNova 1201 Pts   -  
    @Coveny ;


    "just keep it to yourself if you want me to leave you alone."

    Eh, I was really questioning if I should bother responding to a guy who uses constant cherry picking, strawman and ad hominem attacks anyway.  
    WoodenWood
    I am no longer active on DebateIsland or any debate website. Many things I have posted here and on other sites (Such as believing in the flat Earth theory or other conspiracy theories such as those that are about the Las Vegas Shooting or 9/11) do not reflect on my current views. 

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p6M-VgXHwwdpJarhyQYapBz-kRc6FrgdOLFAd3IfYz8/edit

    https://debateisland.com/discussion/comment/18248/#Comment_18248 (Me officially stating that I am no longer a flat-Earther)
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 1675 Pts   -  
    Coveny said:
    Erfisflat said:


    Number one picture of the earth from @coveny link above. This desert seems to cover 1/4 of the earth's surface! Or is this one of those fabricated mars pictures that got mixed in accidentally? Those tricky tricksters!

    https://www.nasa.gov/feature/top-15-earth-images-of-2015
    Lake Chad basin 600 miles it's gonna look big even from space, but 1/4 of the earth's surface? Um NO it doesn't look to cover an 16th of the earth's surface. This is your big "proof"?

    SilverishGoldNova
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

    The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.

    Wayne Dyer
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 1675 Pts   -  
    Coveny said:
    @Coveny NASA has literaly admitted their images have been faked except for the moon landings which for a million times have been thoroughly debunked. With you, you are just  claiming the black backgrounds debunk the photo
    No NASA did not admitted their images were faked... ever. They said their real images weren't aesthetically pleasing so they Photoshopped them so they were, and were completely upfront and honest about what they were doing. That's not fake in any form of the word.

    Coveny said:
    Erfisflat said:


    Number one picture of the earth from @coveny link above. This desert seems to cover 1/4 of the earth's surface! Or is this one of those fabricated mars pictures that got mixed in accidentally? Those tricky tricksters!

    https://www.nasa.gov/feature/top-15-earth-images-of-2015
    Lake Chad basin 600 miles it's gonna look big even from space, but 1/4 of the earth's surface? Um NO it doesn't look to cover an 16th of the earth's surface. This is your big "proof"?

    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

    The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.

    Wayne Dyer
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 1675 Pts   -  
    Just out of interest.
    Are we upside down.
    Or are we the right way up. 

    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

    The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.

    Wayne Dyer
  • 1Hacker01Hacker0 91 Pts   -   edited August 2017
    What is the explanation for long distance sniping taking the curvature into account. Also with long bridges. And what is causing the sun to go in a spiraling movement?
    THEDENIERCoveny
  • 1Hacker01Hacker0 91 Pts   -  
    @SilverishGoldNova There are many other sources other than NASA. I could just say all of your evidence is fabrication. 
    THEDENIERCovenySilverishGoldNovaErfisflat
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 1675 Pts   -   edited August 2017
    @1Hacker0
    "distance sniping taking the curvature into account."

    How do snipers do so? What is the source?

    "Also with long bridges. "

    Example? I mean, I've heard that the verazano narrows bridge was built taking the earth's curvature into account, but look at it...


    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

    The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.

    Wayne Dyer
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