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The Mandela Effect

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ErfisflatErfisflat 690 PtsPremium Member

The “Mandela Effect” is what happens when someone has a clear, personal memory of something that never happened in this reality.

Many of us — mostly total strangers — remember several of the exact same events with the exact same details. However, our memories are different from what’s in history books, newspaper archives, and so on.


I'm going to start a list of the one's from the top of my head, and add as I find more. Feel free to add your own. Granted, this effect does not pertain to everyone, mostly people in their late 20's and up are affected. If you can somehow prove we are just misremembering this stuff, chime in and prove it!


1. It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood...

Now no longer says "the" neighborhood. Was changed to "this" neighborhood. 



2. Star Wars Darth Vader's famous line "Luke, I am your father."

Changed to "No, I am your father"



3. The Berenstein Bears books

Arguably the most famous of the Mandela effects, the "e" has been changed to an "a" in Berenstain.


4. Oscar Meyer 

Is now Oscar Mayer

5. Sex in the City

Is now Sex and the City

6. Queen' s famous song "We are the Champions" (end of the song goes ..."of the world!")

That ending is now gone. 

7. Monopoly's uncle moneybags has lost his monocle.

8. Pikachu's tail doesn't have a black tip now.

9. C3PO has always had a silver leg. Most remember him being all gold.

10. Forest Gump's line "Life is like a box of chocolates"

Is now "Life was like a box of chocolates"


These are just a few of the Mandela effects I can think of, but the list is growing everyday. So what is it? Bad memory? Or some wierd supernatural phenomena? 

dropoutnorthsouthkorea
  1. Mandela effect is real?

    4 votes
    1. Time machine, dual realities, something is going on!
      50.00%
    2. You older cats just smoked too much weed!
      50.00%
Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

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Arguments

  • dropoutdropout 37 Pts
    No, the Mandela affect may be caused from age and possibly other factors. This doesn't mean the person is going crazy.
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 690 PtsPremium Member
    Premium Member
    dropout said:
    No, the Mandela affect may be caused from age and possibly other factors. This doesn't mean the person is going crazy.
    I mean, I'm late thirties, no health issues or other memory issues, and I see most of this as true, I'm sure most of the thirty-something population will agree.
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

  • ErfisflatErfisflat 690 PtsPremium Member
    Premium Member
    dropout said:
    No, the Mandela affect may be caused from age and possibly other factors. This doesn't mean the person is going crazy.
    So, you think this is just memory loss? I guess James Earl Jones is just getting old too huh.


    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

  • In terms of language, a lot of times when people hear things it will become commonplace and incorporated into the reality over time. This is how all languages develop and distinguish themselves. For example "Sex in the City" is very often confused with the real name, "Sex and the City" because that's simply what some people hear - they sound very similar. And for events, a lot of collective false memories are factors of social reinforcement; if two or three people believe something happened, they convince other people who are not sure of what happened, and the image spreads from there. It's easy for people to convince themselves of certain things if they were not 100% sure of all the details to begin with.

    I've never heard of the Mandela Effect before though, it seems pretty cool.
    agsr
  • agsragsr 564 PtsPremium MemberTechnology Community Moderator
    Premium MemberTechnology Community Moderator
    @Erfisflat, another conspiracy theory I didn't hear about before. Entertaining - thank you for posting.  
    I agree with @melanielust, sometimes things just evolve over time and get incorporated into updates.  I do NOT think it is time travelers changing our reality ..LOL.
    Live Long and Prosper
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 690 PtsPremium Member
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    agsr said:
    @Erfisflat, another conspiracy theory I didn't hear about before. Entertaining - thank you for posting.  
    I agree with @melanielust, sometimes things just evolve over time and get incorporated into updates.  I do NOT think it is time travelers changing our reality ..LOL.
    There are probably dozens of examples out there, a little research will turn up one that I'm sure you'll agree, has been changed. I owned the VHS copy of Interview with A Vampire. I saw it in theaters and specifically remember looking at a capitalised a in the title. Thinking this was not normal as a isn't usually capitalised in a title. I checked my local thrift shop and found it was always "the vampire"
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

  • ErfisflatErfisflat 690 PtsPremium Member
    Premium Member
    In terms of language, a lot of times when people hear things it will become commonplace and incorporated into the reality over time. This is how all languages develop and distinguish themselves. For example "Sex in the City" is very often confused with the real name, "Sex and the City" because that's simply what some people hear - they sound very similar. And for events, a lot of collective false memories are factors of social reinforcement; if two or three people believe something happened, they convince other people who are not sure of what happened, and the image spreads from there. It's easy for people to convince themselves of certain things if they were not 100% sure of all the details to begin with.

    I've never heard of the Mandela Effect before though, it seems pretty cool.
    As a child, I got a small collection of the Berenstain books for Christmas and specifically remember asking my mother if it should be pronounced like Frankenstein, because of its spelling. She confirmed when i asked her about the memory and was awestruck when we pulled out an old copy of these books.
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

  • ErfisflatErfisflat 690 PtsPremium Member
    Premium Member
    11. In Snow whites story, the evil queens line is "mirror mirror, on the wall..."

    Has now been changed to "magic mirror on the wall.."
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

  • @Erfisflat
    In the original story, it was "mirror mirror" on the wall, and a lot of cultural references stemmed from that alone. It was changed by Disney in 1973; they did their own version of it and changed it to "magic mirror"
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 690 PtsPremium Member
    Premium Member
    For the fellow James bond fans, in Moonraker, at the end when Jaws meets his future bride, I specifically remember her having braces! It made sense because that gave them something in common. Now it's just wierd.

    northsouthkorea
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

  • @erfislfat , I agree with your point. People can have these types of memories.
    Erfisflat
  • ErfisflatErfisflat 690 PtsPremium Member
    Premium Member
    The kidneys have presumably always been located in the upper back, not the lower back.


    In The wizard of Oz, did the wicked witch, when sending her flying monkeys out the window said:
    "Fly!, fly, fly!"
    Or
    "Fly my pretties"

    Febreze or
    Febreeze

    White-out or
    Wite-out

    Who gave the scarecrow a gun in wizard of oz?

    E.T. phone home or
    E.T. home phone?

    Houdini died drowned during an act, or on a hospital bed of a ruptured appendix?

    Froot loops or
    fruit loops 

    "Beam me up Scotty"
    Never said in star trek, ever.

    Where did that squiggly come from?

    Snuffleuffagus 
    Or snuffleupagus

    JFK's car 6 seater or 4 seater?

    I'll hug and puff and blow your house...
    In or down?

    Cup noodles 
    Cup o noodles
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

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