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  • What’s our biggest problem as a country?

    The biggest problem facing the USA is a complex one, and there is no single answer that will satisfy everyone. However, some of the most commonly cited problems include:

    • Economic inequality. The gap between the rich and the poor in the USA is growing, and this is leading to a number of social problems, such as poverty, crime, and poor health.
    • Political polarization. The two major political parties in the USA, the Democrats and the Republicans, are becoming increasingly divided, and this is making it difficult to address many of the country's problems.
    • Healthcare. The USA has one of the most expensive healthcare systems in the world, and millions of Americans lack access to affordable healthcare.
    • Education. The quality of education in the USA varies widely, and many students from low-income families do not receive the education they need to succeed.
    • Climate change. The USA is a major contributor to climate change, and this is already having a negative impact on the country, in the form of more extreme weather events and rising sea levels.

    These are just a few of the biggest problems facing the USA today. It is important to note that these problems are interconnected, and addressing one problem will often require addressing others.

    It is also important to note that there is no easy solution to any of these problems. 

    Ampersand
  • Should we restrict white immigration?

    of course not, but the many immigrants that did so; made up the backbone of america. color should not matter, black, red, white, yellow, etc. it shpuld be about character. @John_C_87
    jack
  • Should we restrict white immigration?

    i guess no one has ever read the plaque on the statue of liberty? @jack
    jack
  • Truth and fuzzy logic

    The Socratic method has its uses,  if used to introduce children to a pretty effective way to arrive at the truth of a matter. It's all very good on paper but pretty ineffective in the real world.

    You bring up an example..,.....

    Cheetahs are faster than humans". One Socratic question undermining this claim could be, "Does this imply that dead cheetahs are faster than living humans?" A refinement of the claim could then be, "Living cheetahs can run faster than living humans". Then one could ask, "Can then a living cheetahs with all of its limbs amputated run faster than an Olympic marathon runner?" And so on and so on........

    This clearly demonstrates how annoying the method can be as an example like this in the real world would lead the one being questioned believing his questioner was a smug smart a-s. An exchange like this in everyday conversations would lead to nothing except frustration and confusion, the market place of ancient Greece where people stood about for hours debating is hardly comparable to everyday exchanges.

    Nietzsche was correct when he stated " there are no facts only interpretations " everyone has their own opinions and interpretations of the same thing , no one understands it exactly like anyone else.

    Agreement on a topic is only broadly accepted get down to the nuts and bolts and agreement is pretty rare,


    John_C_87
  • Truth and fuzzy logic

    Dee said:
    The Socratic method has its uses,  if used to introduce children to a pretty effective way to arrive at the truth of a matter. It's all very good on paper but pretty ineffective in the real world.

    You bring up an example..,.....

    Cheetahs are faster than humans". One Socratic question undermining this claim could be, "Does this imply that dead cheetahs are faster than living humans?" A refinement of the claim could then be, "Living cheetahs can run faster than living humans". Then one could ask, "Can then a living cheetahs with all of its limbs amputated run faster than an Olympic marathon runner?" And so on and so on........

    This clearly demonstrates how annoying the method can be as an example like this in the real world would lead the one being questioned believing his questioner was a smug smart a-s. An exchange like this in everyday conversations would lead to nothing except frustration and confusion, the market place of ancient Greece where people stood about for hours debating is hardly comparable to everyday exchanges.

    Nietzsche was correct when he stated " there are no facts only interpretations " everyone has their own opinions and interpretations of the same thing , no one understands it exactly like anyone else.

    Agreement on a topic is only broadly accepted get down to the nuts and bolts and agreement is pretty rare,


    Nietzsche's statement, while technically, perhaps, true, seems to be a bit of a reach. It is possible that, in some absolute sense, facts either do not exist at all or, at least, cannot be established by an intelligent observer as holding true - however, there is some reality that punishes people for choosing certain interpretations over alternatives. There is something that assures that a person who does not believe in gravity and lives as though it did not exist, well... does not live for long.
    Perhaps one could think of hierarchies of interpretations of any particular observation, ranging from the least practically tenable ones to those that are nearly irrefutable in practice - so that some interpretations are more accurate than others, but no interpretation is strictly factual. And if an objective comparison of this kind is possible, then arriving at a common ground should also be possible. Whatever our interpretations are with respect to gravity, at the very least we both have to agree that jumping off the top of the CN tower is a really bad idea - and we can engage in a dialogue (Socratic?) to see where this agreement leads us.

    I totally agree with you that the method is annoying and impractical in many real life situations. Obviously, discussing the cheetah question in this sense serves little purpose, while requiring a lot of mental and time investment. There are situations, however, in which extreme accuracy is crucial - for instance, in a dispute between two parties that have signed a complex economical contract and disagree on its reading - and in which all the involved parties may be willing to spend hours, days, weeks, months, years discussing it Socratically given how big the economical implications of its outcome are.

    Ward Farnsworth who wrote "A Practitioner's Handbook" on the Socratic method further insists that the true value of the method is shown by application of it to one's own thinking. Our patterns of thinking are developed throughout our lives and build on top of each other, accumulating countless tiny "bugs" that, over time, sum up to serious consistent flaws in our thinking - and the Socratic method, painful as its application to one's own thoughts can be, is one of the few tools known to effectively expose and repair these flaws. Socrates, should he have been a great practitioner of his own method, has likely spent much more time criticizing his own thoughts than others' - and, in fact, in Plato's dialogues Socrates frequently refers to himself as being "extremely annoying and frustrating" and the like.
    John_C_87
  • Does Praying Work?

    @just_sayin

    Just for amusement I had a look at your latest " evidence" which you deliberately blurred thinking I wouldn't get to the truth of your nonsensical claims.

    You quote a letter from a multi Millionaire bible thumping  preacher from a cult called Bethany ministeries as your " killer " evidence , this scam artist signs off by saying " the ultimate physician god cured her".......seriously buddy you're one gullible rube , ripe for the picking.

    Evans preaches about the poor , suffering and hungry but never mentions how he makes millions from these unfortunates and people like you think him a Saint......,WOW

    Actually I admire the way oily millionaire religious scammers take your hard earned , your gullibility is what they rely on.

    If anyone on here wishes to ensure bishop David his wife and children continue with their lavish  luxurious lifestyle please give generously to gods disciple, Bishop Evans kindly has a link to an app that has no limit donation options , do the right thing his wife needs a bomb job and no amount of praying has stopped her tits sagging 


    American bishops of religion cults are exempt from certain  teachings of Jesus especially regards wealth , how perfectly convenient......

    “A certain ruler asked him, ‘Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?’  Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone. You know the commandments: ‘You shall not commit adultery; You shall not murder; You shall not steal; You shall not bear false witness; Honor your father and mother.’ ‘ He replied, ‘I have kept all these since my youth.’ When Jesus heard this, he said to him, ‘There is still one thing lacking. Sell all that you own and distribute the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me. But when he heard this, he became sad; for he was very rich. Jesus looked at him and said, “How hard it is for those who have wealth to enter the kingdom of God! Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” (Luke 18:18-25).



    just_sayin
  • Psychology: Generaly defined as the Scientific Study of the Mind and Behavior

    I fail to see where you think the use of psychology in evderday life is silly or not useful. It is used in range from sports, religion, law, at work, and in every day situations; social interactions, family, etc.  @ZeusAres42
    Dee
  • Psychology: Generaly defined as the Scientific Study of the Mind and Behavior

    @MayCaesar

    I kinda gave up on this as it got flooded by one person trying to say that empircal evidence is all fake, and another trying to say how we are all psychologists in our daily lives. Basically, just self-proclaimed experts making themselves look very silly. 
    MayCaesar
  • Psychology: Generaly defined as the Scientific Study of the Mind and Behavior

    I think both @maxx and @Dee are demonstrating here that psychology as a science has a long way to go yet... Applied psychology clearly has not had much success here. ;)
    ZeusAres42
  • Psychology: Generaly defined as the Scientific Study of the Mind and Behavior

    @Dee

    You ever tried taking a breather and just enjoying a light-hearted conversation, throwing jokes around and having fun? Or is every human interaction a fight to the death in your eyes?
    "You have such beautiful eyes!"
    "Huh, are you mocking me? I will show you, you bastard!"
    ZeusAres42

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