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Is Religion a Mental Illness?
@Factfinder
FACTDENIER,
Why do you remain upon this Religion Forum making yourself an embarrassment to Atheism because of your BIBLE STU-PIDITY that you bring forth ad infinitum?! You're a complete joke in trying to take on the pseudo-christian with your child-like bible-babble without supporting it biblically, where I have to step in and help you out! LOL!
You and your equally bible fool Barnadot are a great duo in stumbling around this Religion Forum not knowing which way to go when the pseudo-christian brings up yet another godly topic, whereas you two wannabes don't have the sense to feel embarrassed over this FACT! DUH!
Don't worry FACTDENIER, I will still correct your BIBLE STU-PIDITY at your embarrassing expense in front of the membership, you can count on that!
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Is Religion a Mental Illness?
Krauss' theory is very much dependent on a net zero universe. However, science and math are also problematic to it. As I've stated before in another thread, the amount of time that a 'quantum fluctuation' big enough to bring the universe into existence, can exist, is smaller than the amount of time needed for the fundamental forces of the universe to form and trigger inflation.Factfinder said:
Did you listen in the video though? The effects of negative energy and matter are detectable, even calculable. And did you notice Krauss laughing at himself cause he wanted his calculations to come up zero but instead they came up .3? Then he explained how we see only around thirty percent of the mass we should see concerning how much energy has been measured in the universe. Being right or wrong isn't the issue, learning what is and what isn't is the issue with science. So your strawman 'tenets of atheism' fails. Of course it should be noted concerning dark matter and energy that it is becoming more and more accepted that our universe behaves as it does largely because they exist. I'd think the race would be on to go from detecting effects to detecting the real thing. But I am just a layman so I could be wrong. In any event I think it deserves more than a "not really".just_sayin said:
Not really. Krauss and Hawking proposed that gravity, or something like it, was like negative energy that cancels out matter/energy. Space may have 'gravity' in it though. Dark matter and dark energy are said to make up 96% of the universe, but no one has found any of it yet.Factfinder said:
Yes and if you read that book you'd know what Krauss means by 'nothing' as it's more complicated than the laymen's use of the word. For example physics has learned that what was thought to be nothing in space has weight to it, therefore something. Heck who knows? If you listen to Krauss we could be on the verge of discovering god dna LOL. Well, I thought of that but I like how he explains zero energy...just_sayin said:
Actually, there is a very popular zero energy universe theory popularized by Stephen Hawking and later Lawrence Krauss. Krauss wrote a book on it 'A Universe from Nothing' about it. It is a theory that is pretty close to 'nothing'. And the 'exploding' would be the big bang. Of course the math is way off for it, but hey, faith claims aren't worried about math and science anyway. And it takes great faith to believe a universe came from 'nothing'.Factfinder said:
You said "Religion is a sickness of the soul and mental, spiritual, illness." Don't blame me if I thought you were being honest with yourself for a change.RickeyHoltsclaw said:
But I see you're not. Still have to create a strawman to reinforce your waning faith I see. You don't know how the universe got here and no one believes there was nothing and it exploded. But I get it, if your god elf did know your faith was fleeting you'd burn in hell.
https://youtu.be/46sKeycH3bE
Fact, it isn't that there aren't atheistic theories of how the universe came into existence. There certainly are many - at least 2 dozen that I know of. The problem is none of them work. Pointing to a theory that doesn't work, is like claiming you can win the Daytona 500 in a car that won't start. You make some big boasts, as Krauss does, but if it don't work, it don't work. -
Is Religion a Mental Illness?
Not really. Krauss and Hawking proposed that gravity, or something like it, was like negative energy that cancels out matter/energy. Space may have 'gravity' in it though. Dark matter and dark energy are said to make up 96% of the universe, but no one has found any of it yet.Factfinder said:
Yes and if you read that book you'd know what Krauss means by 'nothing' as it's more complicated than the laymen's use of the word. For example physics has learned that what was thought to be nothing in space has weight to it, therefore something. Heck who knows? If you listen to Krauss we could be on the verge of discovering god dna LOL. Well, I thought of that but I like how he explains zero energy...just_sayin said:
Actually, there is a very popular zero energy universe theory popularized by Stephen Hawking and later Lawrence Krauss. Krauss wrote a book on it 'A Universe from Nothing' about it. It is a theory that is pretty close to 'nothing'. And the 'exploding' would be the big bang. Of course the math is way off for it, but hey, faith claims aren't worried about math and science anyway. And it takes great faith to believe a universe came from 'nothing'.Factfinder said:
You said "Religion is a sickness of the soul and mental, spiritual, illness." Don't blame me if I thought you were being honest with yourself for a change.RickeyHoltsclaw said:
But I see you're not. Still have to create a strawman to reinforce your waning faith I see. You don't know how the universe got here and no one believes there was nothing and it exploded. But I get it, if your god elf did know your faith was fleeting you'd burn in hell.
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Is Religion a Mental Illness?
@Factfinder ; No sir...I'm speaking specifically about you and your ilk...you are very stu-pid, arrogant, insolent, people who are destructive, irrational....debased, immoral, an embarrassment to all that is good, decent, holy, sustainable. Most deserving of Hell.
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Is Religion a Mental Illness?
Actually, there is a very popular zero energy universe theory popularized by Stephen Hawking and later Lawrence Krauss. Krauss wrote a book on it 'A Universe from Nothing' about it. It is a theory that is pretty close to 'nothing'. And the 'exploding' would be the big bang. Of course the math is way off for it, but hey, faith claims aren't worried about math and science anyway. And it takes great faith to believe a universe came from 'nothing'.Factfinder said:
You said "Religion is a sickness of the soul and mental, spiritual, illness." Don't blame me if I thought you were being honest with yourself for a change.RickeyHoltsclaw said:
But I see you're not. Still have to create a strawman to reinforce your waning faith I see. You don't know how the universe got here and no one believes there was nothing and it exploded. But I get it, if your god elf did know your faith was fleeting you'd burn in hell. -
Is Religion a Mental Illness?
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Is Religion a Mental Illness?
So true. So true.RickeyHoltsclaw said:@Factfinder ; I don't possess sufficient faith to be an atheist.
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How were people in the Old Testament (before Jesus) saved from the "second death" in Hell?
How were people in the Old Testament saved from death in Hell?
Discussion,
All of humanity, from Adam to this very day, were and are saved by “faith,” alone (Hebrews 11). Faith internalized; that is, “believing” Elohim is the One true Creator and that Elohim is faithful to do all that He has promised.
It is written,
What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh, discovered in this matter? 2 If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about—but not before God. 3 What does Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.” Romans 4:1-3 (Genesis 15:6)
Why was Messiah Jesus necessary?
Jesus’ divine incarnation, the hypostatic union of deity and humanity (Philippians 2:5-11), was essential in order that mandated sinless blood atonement be made manifest for the purification of sin (Leviticus 17:11; Hebrews 10; Matthew 26:28) thereby permitting access to the Kingdom subsequent death of the body in Time (2 Corinthians 5:8); that is, “nothing impure” will ever enter the Kingdom (Rev 21:27); therefore, those who perished in death of the body prior to Messiah’s sacrificial blood atonement, these Old Testament saints, having died in faith, awaited Messiah’s atoning sacrifice for the purification of sin while detained in Sheol-Paradise (Luke 16; Psalm 16:10). Subsequent Messiah’s blood sacrifice, these Old Testament saints were escorted out of Sheol-Paradise into the Kingdom (Ephesians 4:7-10; Luke 23:43).
Faith (noun) has always been the KEY to Elohim’s heart and personal intimacy, righteousness, with Him; this, relevant to all Old Testament and New Testament men and women having attained an age of accountability. Jesus is the divine “Door” (John 10:9-16) to the Kingdom for all who “believe” by “faith” that He, alone, is Messiah who died for the sins of the whole World (John 1:29; 1 Peter 1:18-19; 1 John 2:1-2).
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How were people in the Old Testament (before Jesus) saved from the "second death" in Hell?
@Factfinder
You're attributing that quote to the wrong person dummy. Ricky said these things. Still waiting.
No need for a personal attack. -
Is Religion a Mental Illness?
