- + New Debate
- Debate News
- About
- Debra AI More
frame
Best Promote Content
-
NASA admitting to faking images
@SilverishGoldNova I've look into your arguments for a flat earth. I'm doing some research on my own to figure this out. And by research on my own, I mean actual experiments which I do myself. I'm not going to trust any media source on this. Of course completely avoiding the media is impossible, but fascism, like the flat earth theory, is constantly attacked by the media with baseless arguments. So I know how it feels to be constantly attacked by all sides.
-
Atheism IS a Religion
Coveny said:Fredsnephew said:Coveny said:
The same does not hold true with the words theist and atheist.Fredsnephew said:At the end of the proverbial day.
All religious and god bothering debates tend to boil down to the trading of linguistic semantics.
Listen to me, I am more eloquent than you.
Formal definition would say that Atheism cannot be regarded as a religion.
Loose definition would say that anything could be regarded as a religion.
Everyday he religiously tended to his garden.
Not sure what you're trying to say with this statement.
How does it relate to my proposition.
Perhaps you could expand your explanation a little.You are using this definition of religion.Define religion:Webster - a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faithOxford - A pursuit or interest followed with great devotion.Dictionary - the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practicesCambridge - the belief in and worship of a god or gods, or any such system of belief and worshipSomething like money is the new religion per say. Right?Theist have a value “belief in god(s)”. The “a” on the front simply means not. Like the words asymmetrical, atypical, etc. So atheists simply means “no belief in god(s)”, nothing else is attributed to the word, it’s a null value.How do you pursue a null value? How does a null value have principles? What are the practices of a null value?To take it a step further if it were possible to call null values like atheism a pursuit, doesn’t than mean that all null values become a pursuit? Do you play golf? No, well that’s the “not playing golf” religion.I’ve been an atheist my whole life, and over the years I have been told that I worship satan to eating babies and making nature disasters. That isn’t what atheism is. I’ve been told that atheist are this way or that way, or whatever. That isn’t what atheism is. Look at any definition and you’ll see theist and atheist are diametric opposites where theists “believe in god(s)” and atheist don’t. Unlike many words (religion) which get blurred because of common usage, theist and atheist don’t have that problem, they are very clear on the usage. To say it another way is to say being atheist means you have a lack of beliefs, a lack of practices, a lack of devotion, a lack of faith… a null value can’t be a religion.Now you could be anti-theist… that could be a religion. Pro science… that could be a religion. There are MANY other “values” that could be a religion… atheism can’t be though because of the semantics of the word, and the logic of how you are trying to use it.
Ok. Thanks for explaining. I agree with what you are saying.
-
9/11
9/11 was 100% an inside job. No other steel frame buildings in history have ever collapsed due to fire. Even if fire could bring down steel, the top of the building should have heated to that point hours before the bottom, as opposed to a collapse at near free fall speed that resembled controlled demolitions more than a typical tower collapse. Also, they should have collapsed within 15 minutes of impact, as all the jet fuel would have burned off by then, and they shouldn't have collapsed after having an hour to cool down. The truth is however, that they never were that hot, as 4 people in the North Tower were able to survive despite being ABOVE the crash site. There is also a picture of a woman waving for help from the hole left by one the planes. If its not hot enough to kill humans instantly, its not hot enough to bring down steel. If you watch the collapse in slow motion, smoke is jetting 50 and 60 feet out of the side of the building 20 and 30 stories below the where the collapse is taking place, while windows are flashing. Not to mention building 7 wasn't even hit by a plane and it too fell in similar manner to controlled demolitions.
Also, they knew the planes were hijacked more than 30 minutes prior to them hitting the towers, you can check the air traffic control footage for yourself on youtube. Also, Bush was at an elementary school where he had announced his location on national TV days before. Upon hearing there was an attack, common sense says he may be a target. Instead of evacuating himself and the children like you would in a normal emergency, he stayed around for 20 minutes to read "My Pet Goat" to the children. Again footage of this can be found on youtube.
Prior to Bush taking office, a group called PNAC (Project for a New American Century) arose as a prominent conservative think tank. When the 2000 election came along Bush was their guy. In a 1997 Pamphlet entitled "Rebuilding America's Defences" they acknowledge that many of their goals were unlikely to be achieved "absent some catastrophic event, like a new Pearl Harbor." They get their guy into office and that very year they get their new Pearl Harbor, and with it the Patriot Act, a war in an oil rich country (Bush's dad also went to war in Iraq. The original justification used by the Bush administration for the Iraq invasion was evidence of Sadam Hussien being involved in 9/11. It wasn't until after that was debunked that the attention turned to WMDs), and an excuse to build up a massively oversized and unnecessary war machine.
Now lets look at some the people involved. Leading up to the attacks, the twin towers were undergoing elevator maintenance (the elevator shafts is where the core columns were in the twin towers, and the core columns are the ones you would strap bombs too in a controlled demolition). For security during this maintenance they hired a company called SecureCom, which also was in charge of security at Dulles International Airport, and United Airlines. It just so happens that right until a year before 9/11, a man named Marvin Bush served on the board of Directors for SecureCom. Most people are more familiar with his Dad George Sr. or his brothers George and Jeb. He just so happened to step down a year before the attacks, right around the time he would want to leave to avoid looking suspicious.
Next theres Larry Silversteen, the lease holder for the twin towers had updated the insurance policy to cover terrorism only 3 months before 9/11. He then sued for double insurance money claiming that since two separate planes hit, it was two different attacks, allowing him to get double insurance money, but he only rebuilt one tower. He is also on video stating that they had building 7 "pulled." This was stated before the official story came out and the MSM will never mention it.
Lastly there Osama Bin Laden, the so-called mastermind behind the attacks. Now there not too secretive about this, but they don't announce it either but in the 80's Bin Laden WAS a CIA asset. This is not a theory, they admit this. When the Soviets invaded Afghanistan in the late 70's/early 80's the US gave weapons to a bunch of Afghani people to fight the Soviets. They kept a database of the people the armed and they called it "the base" or "Al-Qaeda" in Arabic. Al-Qaeda is not and never was an organized group, its a CIA database. Among the people they armed to fight the Soviets, one of the more prominent was a man named Osama Bin Laden. Well at some point in the late 80's Bin Laden allegedly "went rogue." However, his family continued to trade in America up until the day of 9/11, when they were flown to safety on some of the very few flights that were actually allowed in the immediate aftermath of the attacks.
Osama himself started training radicals in the desert to attack America. Given that the CIA is known to plant guys, its not only feasible, but extremely likely that Osama Bin Laden never truly went rogue, but that was just part of his cover (although he probably died in the early 2000's because in his videos he goes from looking like an old man to looking like he's in his 30's or 40's out of nowhere). So while Bin Laden may have been part of the attacks, he was merely a pawn of a larger group of people, who held power in the US.
-
Is Islam compatible with modern day science? Like the theory of evolution.
I am no expert on Islam, but from what I can tell, there are some Islamic theories supporting the idea that God (Allah, in this case) created evolution. So yes, I will assume that Islam is compatible with evolution. I hold my religion (Catholicism) to be true and I agree with the ideas of the Big Bang and evolution, and Christianity and Islam do have similar roots, so perhaps Islam is compatible with evolution like I believe Christianity is. However, I do know for a fact that Islam's current state is not compatible with Western civilization. Islam needs a reformation before it tears itself and all associated with it apart.
-
Is Capitalism Evil?
It's a system that promotes people to seek after one's own profit rather than doing what is good for the most amount of people possible. It puts some people in a hierarchy at the top of a business and subjects people to a owner.
-
Latino is not a "Race", nor is "Hispanic" or "Mexican"
There is only one race... human. The rest are constructs. Not to mention they all have the same ancestry if you go far enough back. -
Is Capitalism Evil?
Capitalism isn't good or evil by itself. It depends who is in the capitalist society. If it is full of charitable billionares who help out the poor and middle class, then it becomes good. If it is full of greedy billionares, then for sure would be used for bad.
-
Showdown looms as Trump demands funding for wall on U.S.-Mexico border
Most of the pioneering settlers were all those great things you said and more but I was just pointing out they were not innocent either. They did in fact kill Indians and our government put what was left of them on to reservations. Now technically one could certainly argue they are not criminals since there were no laws to be broken when they arrived but it was not all sunshine and rainbows either because the settlers did in fact take land by force that was not ours and make it into the country we love today.
I was not rationalizing or accepting anything but was giving pushback to the claim that their all just low lives here with bad intentions. Many are here for the same reasons the settlers came here and that is in hopes of a better life. Let me assure you I would be equally as pissed and sad if one of these criminals killed someone I love as I would if a white us citizen did. @Pino -
Was legalizing gay marriage a good decision?
People should be allowed, But when they got what they wanted, They wanted more. Example: Bathrooms for gays. Like really? Give em an inch, And they take 5.
-
Does Donald Trump Deserve to be President?
Donald Trump satisfied the established requirements for achieving a victory in the Presidential Election...there are no additional requirement needed nor has there been any new standards created that he did not meet. Therefor by definition YES, Trump does deserve to be President.
