How Was Life Created?

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Barnardot ; The Holy Spirit teaches that the Son, Jesus Christ - the Living Word, was commissioned by the Father for cause (John 3:35) to take elements from the unseen Spiritual Realm and fashion those elements into matter (Genesis 1; John 1; Hebrews 1; Colossians 1) that can be apprehended by a life-form constrained by Time and physics (Hebrews 11:3). All that we apprehend with our senses finds its origin in that which is not seen by the human eye or sensed by touch as the matter that makes up the constituent elements of our Universe, our genome, finds it origin in the Realm of the Spiritual which is NOT visible to the human eye.

 

Factfinder

@RickeyHoltsclaw

In other words same old fairy land bull that you have no proof of but are afraid of hell. Grow up and grow a pair. 

JulesKorngold

Argument Topic: The Creation of Life

Here's an overview of how Life is created:

1. Ingredient sourcing:

   - The main ingredients for Life cereal include whole grain oat flour, corn flour, whole wheat flour, rice flour, sugar, and various vitamins and minerals.

   - These ingredients are sourced from suppliers committed to quality and food safety standards.

2. Mixing:

   - The dry ingredients are combined in large mixing kettles or hoppers.

   - Water and steam are added to create the cereal dough.

3. Shaping:

   - The cereal dough is likely extruded through specially shaped dies to create the characteristic square shape of Life cereal.

4. Cooking/Drying:

   - The shaped pieces are then cooked and dried to achieve the desired texture and crunchiness.

   - This may involve baking or toasting processes.

5. Fortification:

   - Vitamins and minerals are added to fortify the cereal, as Life is known to be a good source of several B vitamins.

6. Quality control:

   - The cereal undergoes various quality checks to ensure consistency in size, shape, and nutritional content.

7. Packaging:

   - The finished cereal is packaged into boxes, likely using sustainable packaging practices.

8. Distribution:

   - The packaged cereal is then transported to grocery stores and other retail outlets.

Throughout this process, Quaker Oats (the manufacturer of Life cereal) likely adheres to strict food safety and quality assurance protocols to ensure the product meets all regulatory standards and consumer expectations.

Citations:

[1] https://caring-consumer.com/brands/food/life-cereal/

[2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3719853/

[3] https://www.cerealfacts.org/media/Cereal_FACTS_Report_2009.pdf

[4] https://www.quakeroats.com/products/cold-cereals/life-cereal/regular?bvstate=pg:2/ct:r

[5] https://www.postconsumerbrands.com/news/how-is-breakfast-cereal-made/

[6] https://cablevey.com/how-to-maintain-the-quality-and-integrity-of-breakfast-cereals-during-processing/

[7] http://www.foodpro.huds.harvard.edu/foodpro/label.asp?RecNumAndPort=031036*1&dtdate=1/23/2015&locationName=Dining+Hall&locationNum=15

Barnardot

@JulesKorngold you better tell your AI Bot where to go cause it knows eff all about life that’s for sure.

Barnardot

@RickeyHoltsclaw okay I can see a hole in that theory already. 

We know by analyzing the human body that all the elements in it are: carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, potassium, phosphorus, iodine, nitrogen, sulfur, calcium, iron, magnesium, sodium and chlorine.
so how come Jesus had to go to the spiritual realm to get those elements when they were all plentiful and easy to get on earth in the physical realm. He would not have to convert digital to analogue so to speek. 

Also how come God commissioned Jesus to make life since there was already life before Jesus came onto the scene?

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Barnardot ; Many of those elements are found in the dust of the Earth from which Elohim created the human genome; therefore, my statement that matter finds its origin in the unseen Spiritual Realm is far beyond the ability of your three-pound brain to comprehend and the implementation of the compounds contained in matter and in flesh are NO PROBLEM for our Creator's ability to create and who are you to suggest these things are not readily available in the Spiritual Realm as well?

There was no human life or matter in existence before Jesus' creation of Time and matter in Genesis 1...Jesus is Elohim, He is eternally a Spirit (Genesis 1:1; John 4:4) and He is before "all things."

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder @Barnardot ; @Joespeh JulesKorngold  Our omnipotent Creator left you with a written record and a record of divine flesh in Jesus to tell you the who, what, when, why, concerning our temporary presence within Time and space and matter but you refuse to listen and believe because you've sold your soul to the Devil and have allied with evil and the prostelyization of evil and hopelessness...you have chosen vileness and ignorance...you have chosen nihilism and you are evil.

just_sayin

@Factfinder
In other words same old fairy land bull that you have no proof of

You mean like chemical evolution?  Let's remind ourselves of what others have said of the likelihood of chemical evolution.

Life cannot have had a random beginning ... The trouble is that there are about 2000 enzymes, and the chance of obtaining them all in a random trial is only one part in 10^40,000, an outrageously small probability that could not be faced even if the whole universe consisted of organic soup. - Fred Hoyle

From my earliest training as a scientist was very strongly brainwashed to believe that science cannot be consistent with any kind of deliberate creation. That notion has had to be painfully shed. I am quite uncomfortable in this situation, the state of mind I now find myself in. But there is no logical way out of it. I now find myself driven to this position by logic. There is no other way in which we can understand the precise ordering of the chemicals of life except to invoke the creations on a cosmic scale.. . We were hoping as scientists that there would be a way round our conclusion, but there isn’t. - Fred Hoyle

Factless, stop spewing your fairy tales!!!!

Factfinder

just_sayin said:

@Factfinder
In other words same old fairy land bull that you have no proof of

You mean like chemical evolution?  Let's remind ourselves of what others have said of the likelihood of chemical evolution.

Life cannot have had a random beginning ... The trouble is that there are about 2000 enzymes, and the chance of obtaining them all in a random trial is only one part in 10^40,000, an outrageously small probability that could not be faced even if the whole universe consisted of organic soup. - Fred Hoyle

From my earliest training as a scientist was very strongly brainwashed to believe that science cannot be consistent with any kind of deliberate creation. That notion has had to be painfully shed. I am quite uncomfortable in this situation, the state of mind I now find myself in. But there is no logical way out of it. I now find myself driven to this position by logic. There is no other way in which we can understand the precise ordering of the chemicals of life except to invoke the creations on a cosmic scale.. . We were hoping as scientists that there would be a way round our conclusion, but there isn’t. - Fred Hoyle

Factless, stop spewing your fairy tales!!!!

In other words same old fairy land bull that you have no proof of but are afraid of hell. Grow up and grow a pair. 

You and ricky with your hateful, deceptive ways demonstrate and solidify the fact your god (whom you both think you know better then the other); is a fairytale. As you both do not represent the sermon on the mount teachings.

Chemical evolution is a hypothesized scientific theory and makes no fairytale delusional claims like what's found in myth books such the bible. You can tell yourself the lie calling science 'fairytales' but when you do it publically you look quite foolish. It bothers no one of intelligence that we do not know if it's true or not. Meantime you can not, (and the odds are much greater than what's needed for chemical evolution), and never will give us the chemical composition of any god you choose including the genocidal Abrahamic god you have. Of course people of intelligence don't really care if that's true or false either and don't really care that we don't know do to lack of evidence. Do you care if that (your theory, god did it) is true or not and do you admit you don't know? Or are you just shoehorning any tad bit of scientific data or lack there of you can into a belief system instead of honestly debating?

LOL Hoyle spent a life time denouncing theism as illogical when atheism wasn't cool. The fact you need to cling on to the words of a man in his senility past his prime experiencing second thoughts is just classic deceptive just_lyin in true form. He thought the big bang was wrong too and here we are today with working predictive models thanks to it. 

Barnardot

@just_sayin ;Let's remind ourselves of what others have said of the likelihood of chemical evolution.

You can remind yourself about that crap but “those others” that you talk about are complete num skulls who have no idea about what they’re talking about. I mean it . If that’s the only stuff you remind yourself with then it’s no wonder you are totally off the mark.

just_sayin

@Factfinder
In other words same old fairy land bull that you have no proof of but are afraid of hell. Grow up and grow a pair. 

Still not understanding basic Christianity.  If there is no God there is no hell.  As a Christian I believe God has accepted the substitutionary sacrifice of Jesus on the cross for my sins.  I have no fear of hell.  I am concerned for those who may believe the falsehoods you spread may go there.  But I am not personally worried.  

He has forgiven you all your sins: Christ has utterly wiped out the damning evidence of broken laws and commandments which always hung over our heads, and has completely annulled it by nailing it over his own head on the cross. And then having drawn the sting of all the powers ranged against us, he exposed them, shattered, empty and defeated, in his final glorious triumphant act! - Colossians 2:13-14 (Phillips)

You and ricky with your hateful, deceptive ways demonstrate and solidify the fact your god (whom you both think you know better then the other); is a fairytale. As you both do not represent the sermon on the mount teachings.

Fact, this may sound mean, but that's not my intent.  I just don't know you well enough to rationalize hating you.  Hate takes way too much energy.  As far as knowing God.  I don't pretend to think I could understand a being that is eternal and that exists in dimensions I can't even begin to comprehend.  As far as Rickey goes, its not a competition.  We are all in need of a savior.  

Chemical evolution is a hypothesized scientific theory and makes no fairytale delusional claims

Any scientist that tells you they can explain chemical evolution to you is misleading you.  What I mean by that is that, as I keep pointing out, there are major problems with the theory and I mean miracle level problems.  Essentially every step of the theorized process has devastating roadblocks.  @MayCaesar showed a complete lack of understanding when he suggested that chemical evolution was just about eventually getting the right odds.  Its not just picking A or B and if you don't get the right one you just pick again.  It is more like playing Russian Roulette where there is 1 empty chamber in a gun with 10 to the 90,000th power of chambers and you pull the trigger and die if you pick wrong.  The combination of certain chemicals may produce beneficial building blocks, however, the same chemicals will also produce toxic substances that will react and destroy all previous work.  An element joins at the wrong spot and it is then impossible for it to be used.  The wrong spin of a sugar and the structure overheats and will not work. 

If you think 10 miracle level events happened in a relatively short period of time, which would need to be the case, then you either believe in magic or God.   

Hoyle spent a life time denouncing theism as illogical when atheism wasn't cool. The fact you need to cling on to the words of a man in his senility past his prime experiencing second thoughts is just classic deceptive just_lyin in true form. He thought the big bang was wrong too and here we are today with working predictive models thanks to it. 

Hoyle's faith in atheism would not allow him to see the evidence for the big bang.  Your atheism will not allow you to see the evidence of a finely tuned universe nor how the complexity of DNA code needs a coder.  His statements 40-50 years ago should be updated, because since then, our understanding of the complexities of chemical evolution have only grown.  For example, in the last 20 years our understanding of the problems of chirality and spin, in the formation of DNA is far more difficult than originally thought.  The random formation of chiral molecules in prebiotic conditions would result in equal mixtures of left- and right-handed isomers. Creating the homochirality seen in biological DNA through random processes appears extremely improbable.  If even a single nucleotide in DNA had the wrong chirality, it would disrupt the double helix structure and prevent proper DNA function. This emphasizes how precisely controlled chirality must be for DNA to work.  And though May may not understand this, there is no known mechanism to create the molecules with the specific 'spin' needed nor to prevent wrong handed molecules from linking to the DNA.  

Hoyle looked at the complexity and realized chaos could not create that level of order.  Maybe you will see that too.

Barnardot

@just_sayin @Factfinder okay we know all that but all you are doing here is still trying to punch holes in evolution. 

This hole topic was put up to give creationists the opportunity to explain or outline the process of creation. 

If you don’t know what the process is then okay cool. You don’t know.

But for eff sake just say so instead of dribbling away about how wrong or impossible evolution is because that’s what we hear about the hole time.
If evolution didn’t happen and creation did instead then what was the process of creation?

just_sayin

Barnardot said:

@just_sayin @Factfinder okay we know all that but all you are doing here is still trying to punch holes in evolution. 

This hole topic was put up to give creationists the opportunity to explain or outline the process of creation. 

If you don’t know what the process is then okay cool. You don’t know.

But for eff sake just say so instead of dribbling away about how wrong or impossible evolution is because that’s what we hear about the hole time.
If evolution didn’t happen and creation did instead then what was the process of creation?

Translation:  Please @just_sayin, have mercy on us.  You are pointing out how chemical evolution is impossible and destroying our misguided faith in atheism.  Stop laughing at us.  Please change the subject, so we can pretend that what we believe in makes sense.  

Don't you agree, @RickeyHoltsclaw?

Bernie, tell us again how abiogenesis happened?

RickeyHoltsclaw

Life was created for cause through Jesus our Messiah.

1 Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. 3 He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. Hebrews 1

Factfinder

just_sayin said:

Barnardot said:

@just_sayin @Factfinder okay we know all that but all you are doing here is still trying to punch holes in evolution. 

This hole topic was put up to give creationists the opportunity to explain or outline the process of creation. 

If you don’t know what the process is then okay cool. You don’t know.

But for eff sake just say so instead of dribbling away about how wrong or impossible evolution is because that’s what we hear about the hole time.
If evolution didn’t happen and creation did instead then what was the process of creation?

Translation:  Please @just_sayin, have mercy on us.  You are pointing out how chemical evolution is impossible and destroying our misguided faith in atheism.  Stop laughing at us.  Please change the subject, so we can pretend that what we believe in makes sense.  

Don't you agree, @RickeyHoltsclaw?

Bernie, tell us again how abiogenesis happened?

What "faith" are you talking about? No one claims chemical evolution happened. You claim god did it but you can't explain how. Everyone laughs at you, not with. 

just_sayin

Factfinder said:

just_sayin said:

Barnardot said:

@just_sayin @Factfinder okay we know all that but all you are doing here is still trying to punch holes in evolution. 

This hole topic was put up to give creationists the opportunity to explain or outline the process of creation. 

If you don’t know what the process is then okay cool. You don’t know.

But for eff sake just say so instead of dribbling away about how wrong or impossible evolution is because that’s what we hear about the hole time.
If evolution didn’t happen and creation did instead then what was the process of creation?

Translation:  Please @just_sayin, have mercy on us.  You are pointing out how chemical evolution is impossible and destroying our misguided faith in atheism.  Stop laughing at us.  Please change the subject, so we can pretend that what we believe in makes sense.  

Don't you agree, @RickeyHoltsclaw?

Bernie, tell us again how abiogenesis happened?

What "faith" are you talking about? No one claims chemical evolution happened. You claim god did it but you can't explain how. Everyone laughs at you, not with. 

You don't even understand the implications of your own fairy tales.  Ultimately, you do believe in some form of chemical evolution.  Let's say aliens seeded the earth, but where did the aliens come from?  When you trace it all back to the beginning - and the universe had a beginning according to big bang cosmology, then you believe essentially what Rickey believes, that man came from dust.  Its just he only believes in 1 miracle, and you need 10 or more miracles.  LOL.  I just don't have enough faith to be an atheist.

Factfinder

just_sayin said:

Factfinder said:

just_sayin said:

Barnardot said:

@just_sayin @Factfinder okay we know all that but all you are doing here is still trying to punch holes in evolution. 

This hole topic was put up to give creationists the opportunity to explain or outline the process of creation. 

If you don’t know what the process is then okay cool. You don’t know.

But for eff sake just say so instead of dribbling away about how wrong or impossible evolution is because that’s what we hear about the hole time.
If evolution didn’t happen and creation did instead then what was the process of creation?

Translation:  Please @just_sayin, have mercy on us.  You are pointing out how chemical evolution is impossible and destroying our misguided faith in atheism.  Stop laughing at us.  Please change the subject, so we can pretend that what we believe in makes sense.  

Don't you agree, @RickeyHoltsclaw?

Bernie, tell us again how abiogenesis happened?

What "faith" are you talking about? No one claims chemical evolution happened. You claim god did it but you can't explain how. Everyone laughs at you, not with. 

You don't even understand the implications of your own fairy tales.  Ultimately, you do believe in some form of chemical evolution.  Let's say aliens seeded the earth, but where did the aliens come from?  When you trace it all back to the beginning - and the universe had a beginning according to big bang cosmology, then you believe essentially what Rickey believes, that man came from dust.  Its just he only believes in 1 miracle, and you need 10 or more miracles.  LOL.  I just don't have enough faith to be an atheist.

Correct, you've not the intelligence. Have you falsified your fairytale elf god for the simple minded theory yet?  LOL... https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/190294/#Comment_190294 ;

I took the accounts and provided an outline of how they all fit together. You failed to show how my outline was falsifiable

Hahahahahahaha that's what wrong with your fairytale position, it's not falsifiable! LOL You don't know what falsifiable means do you? ROLMAF.

Factfinder

@just_sayin

Still not understanding basic Christianity.  If there is no God there is no hell.  As a Christian I believ

Yawn, yes we all know your fairy beliefs that you don't understand and can't explain. What falsehoods have I said? You talk out your butt not knowing simple terms like Falsifiable. I've forgotten more about your elf god cult then you'll ever learn.

Fact, this may sound mean, but that's not my intent.  I just don't know you well enough to rationalize hating you.  Hate takes way too much energy.  As far as knowing God.  I don't pretend to think I could understand a being that is eternal 

Not to be mean but you pretend to know everything else on the planet, and what's outside of space and time and eternal; why not just continue to talk out your butt? And explain in detail the mechanisms and methods how your imagined elf god could of done everything. I mean what's the big deal, you take liberties with pseudo logic and imaginary foundations constantly already anyways?

You don't even understand the implications of your own fairy tales.  Ultimately, you do believe

I don't pretend to like you do. I know science and religion have different approaches for understanding our environment. Only one has led people to "know" the first woman came from a man already in existence and the other has led modern technology as we know it. These the "falsehoods" you wrongly accused me of on purpose cause they destroy your non falsifiable claims you ignorantly make?

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder ; Jesus is the answer as to "How was life created?"  You will not find an answer elsewhere but only man's obfuscation and desperate attempt to seek an alternative that justifies their sin and appeases a seared conscience. Your only HOPE is Jesus.

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ; Jesus is the answer as to "How was life created?"  You will not find an answer elsewhere but only man's obfuscation and desperate attempt to seek an alternative that justifies their sin and appeases a seared conscience. Your only HOPE is Jesus.

In the minds of children and simpletons you are right. 

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder ;  There is nothing simple about the one who trusts in Jesus but there is a simple cognitive disconnect in the lying atheist who deceives them self into Hell via spiritual ignorance and arrogance.

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ;  There is nothing simple about the one who trusts in Jesus but there is a simple cognitive disconnect in the lying atheist who deceives them self into Hell via spiritual ignorance and arrogance.

Prove it. So far all you've done is discredit the existence of your elf god with stupidity and repugnant behavior. You have no evidence. 

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder ; The proof is in the supernatural Universe that exists around you and the supernatural genome that exists within you and the holy and divine Scriptures that tell you and the body and divinity of Jesus who created you. Unless you humble yourself and with a sincere heart and pursue Jesus as your Messiah by faith, you will NEVER come to an understanding of why you have been created and Who created you and your purpose in Time and in Eternity. If you remain in the stup-idity of atheism and evolution, you will die in Hell in your sin (John 8:24). It is the Holy Spirit who will free you from the bondage of demonic atheism and provide you life and intelligence concerning the Spiritual Realm and your relevance in it.

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ; The proof is in the supernatural Universe that exists around you and the supernatural genome that exists within you and the holy and divine Scriptures that tell you and the body and divinity of Jesus who created you. Unless you humble yourself and with a sincere heart and pursue Jesus as your Messiah by faith, you will NEVER come to an understanding of why you have been created and Who created you and your purpose in Time and in Eternity. If you remain in the stup-idity of atheism and evolution, you will die in Hell in your sin (John 8:24). It is the Holy Spirit who will free you from the bondage of demonic atheism and provide you life and intelligence concerning the Spiritual Realm and your relevance in it.

What is the chemical composition of this "supernatural genome" you just made up? 

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder ;  If Elohim thought that your three-pound brain could understand the particulars, He would have explained it to you; suffice to say, He has told that He is your Creator and that you're to trust His wisdom and eschatological plan for Time and Eternity.

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ;  If Elohim thought that your three-pound brain could understand the particulars, He would have explained it to you; suffice to say, He has told that He is your Creator and that you're to trust His wisdom and eschatological plan for Time and Eternity.

In other words you're full of crap and now you're making a shameful retreat as a miserable failure for not being able to prove this "supernatural genome" you made up. You elf god is disgusted with your incompetence...

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder ; No, I tell you the Truth, you're simply too possessed by the demonic to listen and obey. Trust in Jesus as Messiah, receive the indwelling Holy Spirit as Guarantor of New Covenant relationship with the Father (John 3; Ephesians 1:13-14) and come a divine knowledge of Truth and Life and Understanding. At least don't die as a stup-id atheist...

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ; No, I tell you the Truth, you're simply too possessed by the demonic to listen and obey. Trust in Jesus as Messiah, receive the indwelling Holy Spirit as Guarantor of New Covenant relationship with the Father (John 3; Ephesians 1:13-14) and come a divine knowledge of Truth and Life and Understanding. At least don't die as a stup-id atheist...

You have nothing of substance to say. Explain this "supernatural genome" you said exist. What is its composition?

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder ; I'm not a gene expert...but I know it exists and the complex human genome is beyond human comprehension concerning its origin.

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ; I'm not a gene expert...but I know it exists and the complex human genome is beyond human comprehension concerning its origin.

No, really? LOL you're no expert that's true. We're not talking about the human gnome. You made up something called the "supernatural gnome", prove it exists.

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder ; The human genome IS "supernatural"...can you explain it using "naturalism?"

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ; The human genome IS "supernatural"...can you explain it using "naturalism?"

Prove it.

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder ; The human genome has been analyzed, graphed, explain it void a supernatural design and Designer?

Factfinder

@RickeyHoltsclaw

Explain the supernatural gnome you asserted and pulled out of your asss.

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder ; The supernatural genome is created by Jesus, who is supernatural....

15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. 19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.  Colossians 1

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ; The supernatural genome is created by Jesus, who is supernatural....

15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. 19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.  Colossians 1

Smells like a fart to me. No evidence or proof. Just stoopid arrogant ignorant faith in fairytales. 

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder ; The smell you detect is the rottenness in your bones and in your flesh as you're decaying in your sin and headed to death in Hell in your rejection of Jesus as Messiah...you are fading like a vapor and the stench is apparent in your words of death.

Barnardot

@Factfinder ;@RickeyHoltsclaw Explain the supernatural gnome you asserted and pulled out of your asss.

Okay Facty, I will have to balance this out a bit for you because there is some truth in what Coleslaw says here. 

As it happens, scientists have discovered a human gene that they call the "God gene". It is called "vesicular monoamine transporter 2" and those who have it have a predisposition to being spiritual.

Of course, we are now going to get a heap of Goddists latching onto that by saying "Derr. like there's your evidence that we were created". 

But I reckon, just let it slide. At least it gives them some hope.

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Barnardot ; The entire genome belongs to our Creator and you'll learn this the moment you exhale your last and find yourself in Hades/Sheol-Torments awaiting the Judgment of the Condemned.

Joeseph

@RickeyHoltsclaw

Jesus was mentally insane his own mother and family thought him mad.

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Barnardot ; The entire genome belongs to our Creator and you'll learn this the moment you exhale your last and find yourself in Hades/Sheol-Torments awaiting the Judgment of the Condemned.

Prove it. And prove there is a "supernatural genome" that you made up letting everyone know even you think your faith is stoopid.

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Joeseph ; You are mentally and spiritually insane and a servant of the devil and a dreg in society...atheism is a spiritual sickness.

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder ; Jesus is our Creator, the Holy Spirit has told you this...prove creation apart from Jesus?

just_sayin

From Jules AI:

The formation of amino acids, nucleotides, proteins, DNA, and RNA through chemical evolution faces several challenges:

Amino Acids

While amino acids can form relatively easily under prebiotic conditions, there are some issues:

• Racemic mixtures: Abiotic synthesis produces equal amounts of left- and right-handed (L and D) amino acids, but life uses only L-amino acids.
• Limited variety: Only a subset of the 20 biological amino acids form readily in prebiotic conditions.

Nucleotides

Nucleotide synthesis is more problematic:

• Complex structure: Nucleotides have three components (base, sugar, phosphate) that must be assembled correctly.
• Incompatible conditions: The synthesis of bases and sugars may require different chemical environments.
• Low yields: Prebiotic nucleotide synthesis typically produces very low yields.

Proteins

Protein formation faces significant hurdles:

• Peptide bond formation: Requires removal of water, which is challenging in aqueous environments.
• Sequence specificity: Generating functional protein sequences by chance is extremely improbable.
• Folding: Proper folding into functional 3D structures adds another layer of complexity.

Polymerization

The polymerization of monomers into long chains is difficult:

• Thermodynamics: Polymerization is often not thermodynamically favorable in water.
• Activation: Monomers typically need to be chemically activated to polymerize efficiently.

DNA and RNA

The formation of nucleic acids has additional challenges:

• Chirality: Like amino acids, nucleotides must have the correct handedness.
• Stability: RNA is inherently unstable and prone to hydrolysis.
• Replication: Self-replicating systems are needed for evolution but are highly complex.

Probabilities

Calculating exact probabilities for these events is extremely difficult due to the many variables involved. However, some estimates suggest:

• Forming a specific 100-amino acid protein by chance: roughly 1 in 10^130.
• Generating a self-replicating RNA system: estimated at 1 in 10^60.

These probabilities are vanishingly small, highlighting the challenges of chemical evolution. 

You have to believe in miracles to believe in evolution.  I just don't have enough faith to be an atheist.

Joeseph

@RickeyHoltsclaw


; You are mentally and spiritually insane and a servant of the devil and a dreg in society...atheism is a spiritual sickness.


Yet you married a piglet and admitted to being a corrupt cop .......are you a fellow penticostal like Just Lying.......

Hey give my regards to miss piggy .......oink , oink .....

Factfinder

@just_sayin

Why do you always point out you don't have the intelligence to be atheist? Oh I know you say "faith" but everyone knows that ain't true as you have tons more faith in ignorance being god while claiming not to know it well enough to falsify your dumb illogical assertions based in said ignorance and open defiance of reality. These boards are proof with you it's not about having enough faith or not. With you it's about shoehorning what little you think you know of science into the parts of your elf book that seems compatible. Or using mental gymnastics to  keep trying to say the bible and science are the same; delusion alive.

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Joeseph ; @Factfinder Insulting my wife will not provide you a pardon from death in Hell in your sin...you must repent of your sin and trust fully in Jesus as your Messiah; otherwise, you will suffer commensurate with the deeds done in your body while constrained by Time and then die the second death in Hell, eternally....please don't die in the abject stup-idity of atheism?  You demonism is making you one sick puppy.

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Joeseph ; @Factfinder Insulting my wife

I didn't insult your wife. Didn't know if she was fat. But you are quick to throughout insults worse then that so what's you're problem? You're the ones, theists who can't let stuff go. You have said awful things about myself,  @Joeseph, @MayCaesar, and others all the time just because we don't believe you. Yes we retaliate but as far as I can tell no one cares if you believe us. Atheists generally don't care about validating their unbelief, theists on the other hand project a need for validation of their faith. Discussing things on sites like this is entertainment to me as an atheist but it seems very much like you've imagined some purpose for being here; as theists other than entertainment.

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder ; @Joeseph ; You both are horrible people but that's the way of the atheist.

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ; @Joeseph ; You both are horrible people but that's the way of the atheist.

Says the dirty pig cop who abused hapless victims admittedly cause they were in 'atheist' neighborhoods.