The US election in 2020 was stolen.

jack

Martin said:

The US election in 2020 was stolen.

Hello M:

Wow!  Sounds serious...  Wait a minute..  Didn't Project Veritas FIRE James O'Keefe for LYING and CHEATING???  I think so...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O'Keefe

excon

Jules1

No, there is no definitive proof. Every state approved the votes within them, and there has been no evidence to prove it was stolen. Propublica has already made many great pieces of investigative journalism showing how this is a lie.

Building the “Big Lie”: Inside the Creation of Trump’s Stolen Election Myth — ProPublica

Non_Polical

Argument Topic: The election was not stolen

So I have watched the evidence that you have provided, and even if all the states that you said were wrong (MI, NV, SC, and PA) and were won by republicans, even then Democrats would of still won in The electoral college 279 to 259. This still means that the election was not stolen as even with these allegations that some states were not counted correctly, the ones mentioned could be counted the other way and the outcome would not change

Factfinder

@Non_Polical

So I have watched the evidence that you have provided, and even if all the states that you said were wrong (MI, NV, SC, and PA) and were won by republicans, even then Democrats would of still won in

The question is if they did cheat on that scale and didn't need to, does that make average democrats proud?  Knowing now what we didn't know then, Biden/Harris had a radical agenda for America plunging millions of Americans into poverty for vain, superficial, reasons, are you happy they won? And with all the accusations and denials, was every single vote counted across the land and verified? No? So we don't know the true results do we? We have a committee that looked into it, found some discrepancies with some of the allegations here and there, and quickly dismissed them as well as all reaming allegations as opposed to a thorough investigation. We don't really know if or how much fraud was present in the 2020 election because anyone who tampered with any aspect of it would have most likely came back to the seen after the election ended and covered their tracks as they knew with there sudden no ID required mail in ballots that were mailed out in mass quantities; way more than in any other election, that the results would be questioned. Especially since Trump was winning big all election day until the mail ins started getting counted. 

Dreamer

No, and bad political actors will continue to beat this drum for a very long time. The idea is it is politically expedient to say so.

Non_Polical

Argument Topic: Evidence?

@Factfinder Do you have any sources to prove any of these very damning accusations? As an accusation without evidence could just be a lie. Also according to a study by the Pew Research Center on adults conducted on Nov. 12-17 2020, 58% of voters for Biden surveyed voted by absentee or by mail compared to 32% of Trump voters surveyed voted by absentee or by mail in total 46% of all voters in the 2020 election surveyed voted by absentee or by mail. Doing some quick math of (58+32)/2+45 within the margin of error for the sample size. So no there is no proof that I can find that there was a large amount of fake absentee or mail in ballots for one side or the other.
Source

Factfinder

Non_Polical said:

@Factfinder Do you have any sources to prove any of these very damning accusations? As an accusation without evidence could just be a lie. Also according to a study by the Pew Research Center on adults conducted on Nov. 12-17 2020, 58% of voters for Biden surveyed voted by absentee or by mail compared to 32% of Trump voters surveyed voted by absentee or by mail in total 46% of all voters in the 2020 election surveyed voted by absentee or by mail. Doing some quick math of (58+32)/2+45 within the margin of error for the sample size. So no there is no proof that I can find that there was a large amount of fake absentee or mail in ballots for one side or the other.
Source

Nice but you didn’t address my argument. 

I made no accusation nor did I lie. Try harder.

Unless you intend to prove every vote was independently confirmed? or that Trump didn’t have a commanding lead Election Day?  but after the polls closed the bulk of the mail ins helped Biden come from behind? Thought not. 

Surveys are nothing but percentage guessing and isn’t proof in anyway of anything because people lie in surveys. The fact is when I responded to your post I predicated it with “if” what you found was…then speculated on the known facts and the time line of Bidens miraculous come from behind. So I have nothing to defend and you didn’t address the core of my post.

If things went the way the ops video said but Trump would have still lost as you discovered, would that make liberal democrats proud? 

Martin

@jack

What does that have to do with the overall election fraud?
I know that democrats mostly know among themselves that the election was stolen. It is obvious to the point of disbelief 

So you barely "won" the election in 2020 despite having almost all medias, influencers and security agencies in USA rooting for Biden?
Biden the pedophile, warmonger and war criminal.

Martin

@Jules1

Why are you ignoring the fact that almost 100% of medias in american are leftist? Also the celebrities, FBI, CIA.
All of them promote this sick leftist ideology.

Martin

@Dreamer

Almost 100% of mainsteam media in USA is leftist. Fox channel is a sellout, I do not consider it as right wing.
The FBI, CIA, also most of the celebs are left-leaning now.

Do you have actual proof that the election was not stolen, other than the paid and souless TV stations that promote woke sickness?

Non_Polical

Argument Topic: Fallacy and impossible to prove either side

@Factfinder How can we prove anything if we can’t go off surveys from many different places, and can’t trust the election if this is true? Also why would the first election that this has come up was the 2020 one? Why not before the 2020 election, like in 2016, or mid-terms in 2022?

Factfinder

@Non_Polical

How can we prove anything if we can’t go off surveys from many different places, and can’t trust the election if this is true? Also why would the first election that this has come up was the 2020 one? Why not before the 2020 election, like in 2016, or mid-terms in 2022?

Before 2020 it was a historical tradition that mail in votes were for people who could not otherwise vote such as soldiers deployed abroad or handicapped persons who couldn't travel or it took extreme effort to do so. The reasoning was those people's situations can be confirmed. The rest of the voters were expected to vote at the polls located within there neighborhoods strategically according to the voter registration. That made it easy to vote while showing you're the person on the registration rolls. So it wasn't an issue. In 2020 we had the pandemic so it seemed logical to expand mail in voting practices. But a main problem was how then can we oversee the election as has been done in the past as the system wasn't designed to vet through mail in votes at a rate that almost tripled since the last election and the left fought every way suggested to fix that and even said we shouldn't have to have an I.D. to vote. Well the right wasn't going to agree with that so things remained the same with the one exception that mail in ballots were now much easier to request. Again, but with nothing more added to check the legitimacy of the names with the ballots and it's common knowledge before 2020 that people's dead relatives and pets had voted in past elections, not exclusively, but mostly in democratic districts. We know this because back then we had the oversite apparatus to spot check enough of the relative few mail ins back then to see if that kind of thing was happening. And it was. Just not on a scale that could effect elections at that time because the lower volume of mail ins didn't have the numbers. The issue with the 2020 election is now mail ins can swing an election and though some were checked, not near enough despite the lefts and the left wing msm chanting how much they verified there was no fraud.

By the time 2022 came around and after the whole mess in 2020 liberals finally since conceded to tougher measures of insuring election security and realized if we need an I.D. to prove who we are in public (which is a law) to present to peace officers upon request, drive a vehicle, join a private club, join the military, travel to other countries, go fishing in government parks, visit the doctors office, and so on then voting integrity is at least as important as the integrity of those operations.

BTW in 2016 all left winger were conspiracy theorists and thought Trump stole that election. And they thought he did because he was losing until late in the day when absentee votes started coming in from sailors at sea similar situations as explained in my above paragraph.  

Non_Polical

@Factfinder and why are the republicans still hollering the horn about 2020 but democrats that I have seen have said nothing about 2016? If you have anything about the 2016 election being stolen that was from democrats in the past 5 years I would love to see it as I have never seen anything about the 2016 election being stolen.

Factfinder

@Non_Polical

All you had to do was Google it.

Democrats have routinely cited Trump’s 2.9 million-ballot popular vote loss to Hillary Clinton and pounced on Russian meddling in the election to undermine Trump’s victory. https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/no-trump-electoral-college-challenge-233294

Non_Polical

Argument Topic: Different but similar at the same time

@Factfinder thank you, but that is from 2017, 7 years ago, also the thumbnail is very misleading there as Biden was cheered for by house republicans by striking down the objections by the few house democrats that objected(there were 5 in that video shown to vocally object) and did not loudly voice their opinion until the next election and were not angry at Joe Biden. Vs in 2020, 147 house republicans voted to try to overturn the presidential election results and are still voicing their opinion to this day loudly and are angry at Mike Pence. My takeaway is that yes the house democrats that vocally objected in 2016 should not have and should not be serving in government as there was no solid evidence or proof that the election results were not accurate, but I do not have a double standard so will put that on the 147 house republicans that objected and say that they should not be serving in government as there in no solid evidence or proof that the election results weren’t accurate and anyone in the government that is objecting to by all accounts a fair and free election results should not be allowed to serve in government unless there is reasonable grounds to believe otherwise based on evidence and/or proof. I hope you agree on my opinion for government officials. Also Trump is new in the fact that he is spreading these unfounded rumors around too, I have never heard of that from any democrat on the presidential election ticket in my lifetime.

Factfinder

@Non_Polical

So you think every congress person who said Trump stole the election in 2016 and said Biden stole it in 2020 should be kicked out of congress?

Factfinder

@Non_Polical

Me thinks you have selective memory. You really believe ONLY 5 dems objected cause that's all the video showed? If so we're done. You have no interest in objectivity as your lack of googling even common knowledge truths about elections past demonstrates opting to claim you 'never' seen anything suggesting someone thought the 2016 election was stolen instead. Did you even notice democrats still think the 2000, 2004 along with the 2016 elections were stolen from them?  I'm not voting for Harris. She's not qualified. (that's being kind as she's dumb as they get) She had her chance and decided to fleece America and now promises to reverse what her policies have done. Well she's not getting all that money back from overseas, that's for sure.

You're request: "I would love to see it as I have never seen anything about the 2016 election being stolen."  I do a search, pull off two links of the first page of results and you then move the goal post and want me to do more of your homework? I don't think so. Have a nice day.

Martin

@Factfinder

If the republicans even lifted a finger to steal elections, the entire media machine of the USA would be talking about that for months and even years. Maybe decades.
You are aware that everyone knows that?

Factfinder

Martin said:

@Factfinder

If the republicans even lifted a finger to steal elections, the entire media machine of the USA would be talking about that for months and even years. Maybe decades.
You are aware that everyone knows that?

Yes, and they did talk about it. And they still do bring up several elections Republicans won since 2000. Not front page stuff but commentary and talkin head shows the press will still point to 2000, or 2004 sometimes. And of course 2016.

Martin

@Factfinder

You see that the system is rigged against republicans?
Why is the US military allowing that? 
Biden is sitting in office while he should be getting the penalty for high treason.
You acknowledge that the USA is no longer a Democracy since 2020 in any terms?

jack

Martin said:

@jack ;

 the election was stolen. It is obvious to the point of disbelief

Hello M:

And, you;'re getting ready to do it again, aren't you?  That's what's not believable.

excon

Factfinder

@Martin

You see that the system is rigged against republicans?
Why is the US military allowing that? 
Biden is sitting in office while he should be getting the penalty for high treason.
You acknowledge that the USA is no longer a Democracy since 2020 in any terms?

Oh yes, and it has been. It's a problem that the wealth of our nation has brought on. The left dangles carrots (money) before people's carts for votes. The right believes in what created the wealth, opportunity for individuals to succeed on their own. Problem is half the country, (liberals) want free stuff and isn't concerned with earning their own money. Talking about average constituents and realizing there are some exceptions.

The military allows it because we are not a military dictatorship.

At this point Biden is lucky if he can go an hour without drooling. The problem is the cabal that owns people like Harris and Obama. Who by the way told black men yesterday that they are misogynists if they don't vote for their unqualified puppet Kamala and willfully remain enslaved to the freedom hating left. Guess it's not true for all the other non black males. Yeah the left is racist/sexist and I wish we could eliminate them but then we would have to become as they are to do so, so just got to go for this election.

We've never had a straight democracy by design. We have a representative republic as a guard against mob rule. Otherwise big city know nothing/do nothing liberals would have already enslaved the people who do not live on the east or west coasts. 

Martin

@Factfinder

So the country is more or less lawless?
Police does not care when they are stolen?
Neither does the FBI or CIA?

Is there any service in USA that actually cares about that country?

Factfinder

Martin said:

@Factfinder

So the country is more or less lawless?
Police does not care when they are stolen?
Neither does the FBI or CIA?

Is there any service in USA that actually cares about that country?

Of course not but you will not understand the political landscape of my country any better than I would understand the political landscape of your country. Way to much for outsiders to unpack.

Yes, those on the right working to preserve our nation. The American left sold us out but half the people are afraid of Trump and personal responsibility. That said we still are a nation of laws which is why all the charges against Trump are being systematically dropped and/or convictions overturned so far from the persecution the the Biden administration has conducted. 

Non_Polical

Argument Topic: Trying to get sides straight

@Factfinder Did the 2020 presidential election have Trump elected to the office of the President?

Martin

@Factfinder

I can understant that, but there are things where they crossed the line completely.
Doing sex changes on minors? 
Bringing "Drag Queens" to talk to children?
They crossed the line.

Dreamer

@Martin

Fox News is very conservative.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/

just_sayin

Dreamer said:

@Martin

Fox News is very conservative.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/

I agree that Fox news is more conservative than CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, and CBS news casts.  I think Bret Baier is middle of the road.  The issue is that so many of the old timey TV media are extreme leftists and FOX caters to the right wing.  Let me give you some stories that the left are hardly covering right now: 

1) Harris' plagiarism - the NYT even initially said it was 'mostly peaceful' plagiarism.  
2) The VPs husband slapped to the ground his ex-girlfriend
3) The FBI quietly updated their violent crime statistics and instead of violent crime having gone down 2%, it went up 4.5%.

If you see these stories covered, it will not be in articles like 'Kamala Harris proven to have lifted sections from her book from Wikipedia', but they will spin the story and say something like 'MAGA extremists accuse Harris of Plagiarism'.  The fact is she was undeniably proven to have plagiarized her book, but the emphasis will be that she was ACCUSED of doing so.  

Rather than point out that Harris struggled to answer Bret Baier's questions, which the rest of the media should have been asking, the spin was to attack him for asking the questions.  Imagine any left leaning news organization attacking one of its own for someone asking Trump a hard question.  

Martin

@Dreamer

Fox news is cloak and dagger

marke

@jack

The 2020 election was stolen.  There is no doubt.  Max voter turnout for multiple elections for the past four decades has been around 130 million, except in 2020 it was 155 million because democrats kept dumping boxes filled with unverified Biden ballots into democrat precincts long after the election was over until Biden had just enough votes to steal the election.

TheDebateman01

Argument Topic: 2020 election

 there is no real evidence that the 2020 election was stolen. Even in court, many cases were dismissed. The 2020 Election was thoroughly investigated in court States like Georgia conducted multiple recounts, including a hand recount, all of which confirmed the accuracy of the original results. Similar processes in Wisconsin and Arizona validated the election outcomes; Federal Agencies even wen claimed “the most secure in American history.” Even experts agreed it was one of the most secure. The source you're using is from a well-known far-right outlet, and relying on such sources weakens the argument. If Trump were to claim the sky is orange today, would we trust Fox News to confirm it? It's not a reliable source for meaningful debates.

Sources: (https://campaignlegal.org/results-lawsuits-regarding-2020-elections), (https://campaignlegal.org/update/clc-lawsuit-enabled-9000-ballots-count-new-yorks-2020-election), (https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/)

marke

@jack

Democrats cannot disprove the mountain of 2020 voting fraud evidence against them so they simply jail protesters against voting fraud, hoping that will silence critics.

marke

Argument Topic: This still means that the election was not stolen as even with these allegations that some states were not counted correctly, the ones mentioned could be counted the other way and the outcome would not change

@Non_Polical @Non_Polical ;

The fact that Biden raked in millions of invalid or unverified votes erases all claims that the 2020 election was legitimate.

  https://www.discoverthenetworks.org/organizations/the-2020-presidential-election-fraud?aff_id=1262

* Fraud & the 2020 Presidential Election

Adams wrote in a September 2021 article:

“The fact of untracked, nearly 15 million ballots triggers an unavoidable cascade of serious, fundamental, deeply troubling questions.  Such as, how many of those were voted by unintended recipients?  This can’t be known.  Another obvious question is, how many people failed to vote because their ballots went astray?  This too can’t be known.  Another question is why are the voter rolls so inaccurate that wrong addresses are so common?

“Places like Pennsylvania had to be sued to be forced into correcting them.  Another question is why do so many election officials not care?

“To put that 15 million figure in perspective, consider this in Pennsylvania 440,000 mail ballots went missing or were undeliverable in the 2020 election. President Biden won the state by only 81,000 votes.

TheDebateman01

                                                                             Main Point 

@marke
The reason for such a record turnout in the election is that, unlike in previous elections, the American people had the option to use mail-in ballots. The introduction of mail-in voting provided more opportunities for people, especially those in rural areas, to participate in the election. This is an important factor to consider. Over 65 million voters did mail-in ballots; in comparison, the 2016 election had only 30 million mail-in ballots. This shift in voting method not only expanded access but also catered to individuals who faced barriers such as long work hours, childcare concerns, or physical disabilities that might have otherwise prevented them from voting in person.

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                                                               VOTES/How Joe Biden Won

Why were there so many votes that leaned toward Joe Biden (the Democratic Party)? 
This was the first time Gen Z could vote in an election, and, well, let's just say 63% leaned left (14.5 million in votes). 
Next, Millennials, in total, 59% voted for Joe Biden (42 million votes). 
These two generations dominated the election and gave Joe Biden a very great lead (he won a lot of the young voters). 

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Sources:
(https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-ELECTIONS/oakvendenpr/)
(https://usafacts.org/topics/elections/), (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/11/10/most-mail-and-provisional-ballots-got-counted-in-past-u-s-elections-but-many-did-not/)
 (https://circle.tufts.edu/index.php/latest-research/election-week-2020)
(https://www.factsandarts.com/current-affairs/us-midterms-why-gen-z-and-millennials-came-out-vote-and-why-it-marks-generational), 

marke

@Non_Polical

You are right.  With tens of millions of illegitimate names on bloated voting registries, particularly in very large democrat voting wards, how can anyone prove millions of illegitimate votes were not cast for Biden in 2020?  In LA county democrat voting ward alone there were more than 1 million illegitimate names on their voting rolls, and that is just one voting ward among dozens or more.

. https://thefederalist.com/2023/02/27/lawsuit-forces-los-angeles-county-to-remove-1-2-million-ineligible-voters-from-rolls/  2-27-23

Lawsuit Forces Los Angeles County To Remove 1.2 Million Ineligible Voters From Rolls

marke

@Non_Polical

Democrats committed massive voting fraud also in 2016 but, sadly for them, Trump's lead over the corrupt and undesirable democrat candidate was far to great to overcome even with massive help from fraudulent votes.

marke

@Non_Polical
Voting fraud, particularly among democrats, has been a major problem in US elections for more than a century.  Democrats still brag about LBJ's theft of the 1948 election where fake votes were added to his total until the stole the election from Stephenswon by less than 100 votes, earning LBJ the moniker "Landslide Lyndon."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_United_States_Senate_election_in_Texas

The 1948 United States Senate election in Texas was held on November 2, 1948. After the inconclusive Democratic Party primary in July, a hotly contested[2] runoff was held in August in which U.S. Congressman Lyndon B. Johnson was officially declared to have defeated former Texas governor Coke R. Stevenson for the party's nomination by eighty-seven votes.[3] The state party's executive committee subsequently confirmed Johnson's nomination by a margin of one vote. The validity of the runoff result was challenged before the U.S. Supreme Court due to allegations of irregularities, and in later years, testimony by the parties involved indicated that widespread fraud occurred and that friendly political machines[4] produced the votes needed for Johnson to defeat Stevenson. 

marke

@Non_Polical

Republicans did not win the election in 2016 by massive voting fraud, in spite of democrats also committing massive voting fraud in that election also.

marke

@jack

Democrats lost tens of millions of voters from 2020 to 2024, mostly due to tightening state rules against potential voting fraud.

marke

@Non_Polical

Trump won the overwhelming majority of verified legitimate votes in 2020.

TheDebateman01

@marke

there is no proof of any “fraud” or any “illegal votes”. 

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“Rep. Liz Cheney, the former chair of the House Republican Conference, stated on February 23, 2021: "The president and many around him pushed this idea that the election had been stolen. And that is a dangerous claim. It wasn't true," ”

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source : https://campaignlegal.org/results-lawsuits-regarding-2020-elections

marke

@TheDebateman01
Lefties lie about the massive evidence of 2020 voting fraud they cannot refute.  This is just a small portion of voting fraud evidence from Pennsylvania alone:

1.        https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jan/30/pennsylvania-11000-non-citizens-registered-vote/  1-30-19

2.      https://www.newswars.com/watch-the-steal-in-real-time-nearly-20000-votes-flip-from-trump-to-biden-during-cnn-live-stream/

3.      PA Supreme Court Blocks Inspection of Voting Machines in Fulton County (wdiy.org)  1-18-22

4.     https://gellerreport.com/2020/11/tens-of-thousands-of-ballots-arrived-before-their-sent-date-in-pennsylvania-researcher.html/  11-10-20

5.      https://www.christianitydaily.com/articles/14908/20220211/voter-fraud-more-than-5-million-questionable-ballots-identified-in-three-key-states.htm  2-11-22

6.      Congress Certifies Stolen Election - The American Spectator | USA News and Politics  1-7-21

7. Pennsylvania whistleblower speaks out after claiming 'forensically destructive' vote canvassing procedure | Fox News  12-2-20

 

marke

@TheDebateman01

Here are a few examples of the many that indicate massive voting fraud in just Pensylvania alone:

1.      https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jan/30/pennsylvania-11000-non-citizens-registered-vote/  1-30-19

2.      https://www.newswars.com/watch-the-steal-in-real-time-nearly-20000-votes-flip-from-trump-to-biden-during-cnn-live-stream/

3.      PA Supreme Court Blocks Inspection of Voting Machines in Fulton County (wdiy.org)  1-18-22

4.     https://gellerreport.com/2020/11/tens-of-thousands-of-ballots-arrived-before-their-sent-date-in-pennsylvania-researcher.html/  11-10-20

5.      https://www.christianitydaily.com/articles/14908/20220211/voter-fraud-more-than-5-million-questionable-ballots-identified-in-three-key-states.htm  2-11-22

6.      Congress Certifies Stolen Election - The American Spectator | USA News and Politics  1-7-21

7. Pennsylvania whistleblower speaks out after claiming 'forensically destructive' vote canvassing procedure | Fox News  12-2-20

TheDebateman01

marke said:

@TheDebateman01
Lefties lie about the massive evidence of 2020 voting fraud they cannot refute.  This is just a small portion of voting fraud evidence from Pennsylvania alone:

1.        https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jan/30/pennsylvania-11000-non-citizens-registered-vote/  1-30-19

2.      https://www.newswars.com/watch-the-steal-in-real-time-nearly-20000-votes-flip-from-trump-to-biden-during-cnn-live-stream/

3.      PA Supreme Court Blocks Inspection of Voting Machines in Fulton County (wdiy.org)  1-18-22

4.     https://gellerreport.com/2020/11/tens-of-thousands-of-ballots-arrived-before-their-sent-date-in-pennsylvania-researcher.html/  11-10-20

5.      https://www.christianitydaily.com/articles/14908/20220211/voter-fraud-more-than-5-million-questionable-ballots-identified-in-three-key-states.htm  2-11-22

6.      Congress Certifies Stolen Election - The American Spectator | USA News and Politics  1-7-21

7. Pennsylvania whistleblower speaks out after claiming 'forensically destructive' vote canvassing procedure | Fox News  12-2-20

 

Article one

FALSE "There is absolutely no evidence of widespread non-citizen voting. State election officials have existing systems to verify an individual’s eligibility and ensure accurate voter rolls" 



Sources: "https://keystonenewsroom.com/voterhub-2024/can-noncitizens-vote-in-pennsylvania-elections-no-and-very-few-try/" 
https://www.commoncause.org/pennsylvania/articles/noncitizen-voting-is-already-illegal-in-pennsylvania/

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Third Article: There were investigations into that county about cheating and found no fraud, and guess what: That county is a hard red county. In the 2020 presidential election, Fulton County, Pennsylvania, voted heavily in favor of Donald Trump. He won approximately 85% of the votes in the county, maintaining a strong Republican presence in the region. Fulton County has historically leaned Republican, and this pattern continued in the 2020 election, with Trump outperforming Joe Biden by a wide margin in this area.

Sources: (https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2023/fact-checking-dominion-voting-systems-claims-2020-election/) (https://www.wgal.com/article/pennsylvania-election-results-2020-county-map/34931247
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Fourth Article

Are you kidding again? Guess what—multiple investigations into the 2020 election in Pennsylvania found no evidence of widespread election fraud. This includes thorough reviews by independent auditors, county election boards, and state election officials. Trump’s legal team filed several lawsuits challenging the results, but courts consistently ruled that the claims lacked substantiated evidence of fraud.

Sources : (https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/oct/28/instagram-posts/trump-campaigns-evidence-of-fraud-was-reviewed-bef/) (https://whyy.org/articles/election-reviews-persist-despite-no-evidence-of-rigged-vote/) 
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Fifth Article 

We've gone over this again, and again, and again. No credible evidence of widespread voter fraud has been found in Pennsylvania or any other swing state. Investigations by independent election officials, fact-checkers, and courts have consistently debunked these claims. Alleged issues, like mismatched signatures or missing ballots, were often due to clerical errors or misinterpretations, not fraud. Both Republican and Democratic-appointed judges have ruled that the evidence simply doesn't support claims of fraud impacting the election outcome. For more details, you can check out reports from organizations like FactCheck.org and other election integrity experts​

Sources: https://www.factcheck.org/2020/12/nine-election-fraud-claims-none-credible/
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Sixth Article

Yet again, we reach the same undeniable verdict: no fraud was found. The baseless claims of a stolen election have been repeatedly shot down by thorough investigations, audits, and court rulings. From Arizona’s botched audit to Pennsylvania’s comprehensive election reviews, not a shred of credible evidence has emerged to support these false accusations. Independent election experts, bipartisan officials, and numerous fact-checking organizations have all confirmed what we've known all along—the election was fair and legitimate. The truth is clear, no matter how many times these debunked lies are recycled​

Sources: (https://www.factcheck.org/2020/12/nine-election-fraud-claims-none-credible/) 
 
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Article Seven 

The so-called "whistleblower" claims about election fraud in Pennsylvania have been completely debunked. Multiple investigations and audits found no evidence of widespread fraud. Despite the dramatic allegations, they fell apart under scrutiny, with fact-checkers like PolitiFact and others exposing them as baseless.

Source (https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/nov/11/viral-image/no-this-isnt-video-evidence-of-election-fraud-in-p/) 
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Tell me this—why do you keep turning to right-leaning news sources? Every article you’ve shared comes from outlets with a clear conservative bias, from Fox News to Christianity Daily to The Washington Times. These sources consistently push narratives aligned with right-wing views, especially when it comes to claims of election fraud and voting irregularities. So why rely on them when there are plenty of neutral or left-leaning sources that offer a more balanced perspective?

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TheDebateman01

marke said:

@TheDebateman01

Here are a few examples of the many that indicate massive voting fraud in just Pensylvania alone:

1.      https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jan/30/pennsylvania-11000-non-citizens-registered-vote/  1-30-19

2.      https://www.newswars.com/watch-the-steal-in-real-time-nearly-20000-votes-flip-from-trump-to-biden-during-cnn-live-stream/

3.      PA Supreme Court Blocks Inspection of Voting Machines in Fulton County (wdiy.org)  1-18-22

4.     https://gellerreport.com/2020/11/tens-of-thousands-of-ballots-arrived-before-their-sent-date-in-pennsylvania-researcher.html/  11-10-20

5.      https://www.christianitydaily.com/articles/14908/20220211/voter-fraud-more-than-5-million-questionable-ballots-identified-in-three-key-states.htm  2-11-22

6.      Congress Certifies Stolen Election - The American Spectator | USA News and Politics  1-7-21

7. Pennsylvania whistleblower speaks out after claiming 'forensically destructive' vote canvassing procedure | Fox News  12-2-20

Same old sources, same tired, fake bias...

All your sources are far-right, pushing lies and unsubstantiated claims with no real evidence to back them up.

Meanwhile, my sources come from credible, center and center-left outlets that actually rely on facts. They’ve thoroughly debunked these fraud allegations through independent investigations, audits, and court rulings. So while you keep recycling the same baseless conspiracy theories, I’m sticking with sources that actually care about truth, not political agendas.

marke

@TheDebateman01

You are wrong on every count.  Democrat coverups and deceptions do not serve as refutations of the mountain of 2020 voting fraud evidence.

marke

@TheDebateman01
Yes, my sources have been labeled far right and opposing sources have been labeled far left.  The evidence produced by far right sources is far more compelling that the excuses, obfuscations, lies, denials, and fale propaganda of leftist sources.

TheDebateman01

marke said:

@TheDebateman01
Yes, my sources have been labeled far right and opposing sources have been labeled far left.  The evidence produced by far right sources is far more compelling that the excuses, obfuscations, lies, denials, and fale propaganda of leftist sources.

There is zero evidence of voter fraud—none. Did you even read my sources? Because I read yours, and they’re nothing but far-right propaganda packed with false narratives and debunked garbage. Your so-called “evidence” has been torn apart in courts, audits, and by actual election officials time and time again. Stop pushing lies from biased outlets and start dealing with facts—your claims don’t hold up, no matter how many times you repeat them.

TheDebateman01

@marke

Your “mountain of evidence” is nothing but a pile of lies that’s been crushed by courts, audits, and bipartisan investigations. Over 60 lawsuits failed—many dismissed by Republican judges—because there’s no proof. Even Trump’s allies couldn’t find fraud in Arizona, Georgia, or Pennsylvania. Screaming “Democrat coverup” doesn’t change the fact that every claim has been debunked. If there was real evidence, it would’ve held up. It didn’t—because it doesn’t exist.

marke

@TheDebateman01
Because I read yours, and they’re nothing but far-right propaganda packed with false narratives and debunked garbage.

I posted a few of hundreds of sources I have showing evidence of 2020 voting fraud that you imperiously claim without proof are invalid.  How do you know, for example, that the only corruptible Dominion voting machine examined after the 2020 election and found to have been corrupted was a fluke and that no other Dominion machines had been corrupted?  Democrats had a variation of excuses for why Dominion voting machines were not to be examined for corruption until after they had been wiped.