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Boy did I get that one wrong or what?

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I predicted the presidential race would be close but thought Trump preferable to Harris even though I think America deserves better as both candidate's are dreadful.......I've just watched Trump make a holy show of himself and turn America into a laughing stock worldwide how can anyone support this clown anymore? 

Trump mimics sucking a d-ck? Seriously who would want this representing them?

I watched life long  Republicans one after the other onoine commenting on his behaviour and disgusted with him they are furious at his antics ....he's shot himself in the foot from a possible winning position he's now lost I believe.



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  • FactfinderFactfinder 1894 Pts   -  
    @Joeseph

    I watched the video of what he did and what he was talking about. I wouldn't be overly concerned as it looked rude if you have no context but in context he was explaining what it's like to walk up to the mic to speak when time is of the essence, and reaching for a mic that isn't there. At least that's what I saw in a 1. 45 minute video. He was explaining how stoopid it made him feel.

    I think what's more disturbing is stories like this that are starting to pop up...

    https://www.westernjournal.com/fraudulent-pennsylvania-voter-registrations-traced-democrat-linked-company-district-attorney/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=conservativetribune&utm_campaign=dlvrit&utm_content=square

    Amid an onslaught of fake voter registration forms in Pennsylvania, one local district attorney has identified the source of them as an Arizona-based firm that is linked to Democrats.

    Monroe County District Attorney Mike Mancuso posted on facebook that some of 30 “irregular” voter registration forms filed in his county “have been found to be fraudulent as they were not authorized by the persons named as applicants.”

    “In at least one example, the named applicant is in fact deceased. To date, several, of the fraudulent voter registration forms have been traced to a specific person,” he wrote.

  • Foxtrot22024Foxtrot22024 44 Pts   -  
    @Factfinder, I hate seeing those stories. If people want to vote for someone, fine, that's democracy, but if you attempt to commit voter fraud... on a large scale, it could have an impact on the election. It's just wrong.
  • JoesephJoeseph 1534 Pts   -   edited November 2024
    @Factfinder

    Hi FF , the problem was his speech was  rambling with nothing of content in in and yes I get what you're saying but I think it's going to cost him big time.

    That is very worrying regards voter fraud if its true,  I can only imagine if Trump does lose. Harris according to all polls has jumped ahead and stats in say the polls show she's taken the lead over Trump  Iowa which is a shock.


    Factfinder
  • BoganBogan 629 Pts   -  
    Unless the Democrats can rig the postal votes using covid again, Trump will win in a landslide.     It is not hard to figure out why.      Electors know that the economy was much better under President Trump     The fact that it was imperative to close the border is now being rammed home in the very Democrat controlled states who claimed that they were "sanctuary cities."   The hypocrisy of these virtue signaling Democrat areas was on display when the governor of Florida sent two planeloads of "refugees" to Martha's Vineyard and those virtue signaling rich bastards could not get them off their exclusive island quick enough.    The whole woke attitude is getting on the nose with most voters, especially this new insanity of "transgenderism", which is vehemently opposed by the very black and Hispanic voters who might usually be expected to vote Democrat.  Most people are beginning to see Donald Trump as a folk hero standing up for the ordinary people against the corruption of an out-of control, power mad civil service, who will stop at nothing to prevent him being elected as President by the people.      Trump is especially popular with white, European voters who are absolutely fed up of the woke leftists blaming their entire race for the dysfunctions of every dysfunctional race.    Here is a teaching aid from a Coca-COla DEI class.   


    If you are white, Joseph, try to be less white.  

  • BoganBogan 629 Pts   -  
  • JoesephJoeseph 1534 Pts   -  
    @Bogan

    Unless the Democrats can rig the postal votes using covid again, Trump will win in a landslide. It is not hard to figure out why.      


    You got to be living on a different planet " landslide" LOL ....l

    It's all over, every poll online has Harris ahead she's even got Iowa according  to polls  which was not expected at all.

    Trump can only blame himself as he's handed the job to her on a plate , all he had to do was make a few speeches about the economy and his policies instead  he ranted about the mic, his hair and how intelligent he is it was  an absolute clown show.

    You obviously have not read online the press and media reviews  and the thousands of comments by Republicans online who have had enough.


    Why would I want to be less white?
  • BoganBogan 629 Pts   -  
    @Joeseph

    The American people will only have themselves to blame if that quarter wit Kamala Harris wins.      I suppose that you love high inflation, high gas prices, high electricity charges, crime out of control, another 10 million useless welfare recipients barging across you borders and bludging off the US taxpayers, and the creation of a new government department, the "Language Police" who will tell you which pronouns you may use? 

    Don't worry, most people grow out of Leftism and I am sure that you will eventually do the same.       What is the old saying?   "If you are not Democrat when you are 20, you haven't got  a heart.   If you are still a Democrat when you are 30, you haven't got a brain."   
  • JoesephJoeseph 1534 Pts   -   edited November 2024
    @Bogan

    I don't live in the US , I'm tax free so it's immaterial to me.

    Actually I've said repeatedly I don't like either candidate but I actually thought Trump maginally better , now I'm just stating the facts from what the polls are saying which somehow seems to trigger you.

    I've no time for pronoun nonsense , but you do crack on with your false allegations it's your thing.

    I don't live in America , I don't like the Democrats and I'm not a lefty ....its impossible to ever have a conversation with you as all you do is list off allegation after allegation which are all in your mind .....you're quiet insane.


    jack
  • BoganBogan 629 Pts   -  
    @Joeseph

    Talking to children is always difficult.    T
    Cheech24
  • JoesephJoeseph 1534 Pts   -  
    @Bogan

    ***Talking to children is always difficult***

    It certainly was for you isn't that how you ended up in jail last time?
  • FactfinderFactfinder 1894 Pts   -   edited November 2024
    @Joeseph

    Yeah the polls are showing a slight lead by Kamala. So no one can simply dismiss your point as it is valid. Just hope it turns out to be wrong cause I agree Trump is marginally better. And Trump will get most of his votes on Tuesday where Kamala probably has about a third of hers already if voting patterns hold to past typical voting practices.

     I’m retired as well so neither will affect me that much though I hope both follow through with ending taxation on social security as all retirees have already paid income taxes on these social security accounts, that’s why they are “accounts” and not cash in private checking accounts.
  • JoesephJoeseph 1534 Pts   -   edited November 2024
    @Factfinder

    That's interesting on pensions ,over here you're taxed on private pensions but the  state pension which all citizens get is untaxed , you also get reduced fuel bills ,free bus and rail pass and various other small perks.

    I think paying tax on a private pension is theft as one already has paid tax on it.

    So you get a state pension which is taxed?

    Is a private pension taxed as well?
  • jackjack 728 Pts   -  
    Joeseph said:

    Boy did I get that one wrong or what?

    Hello Joseph:

    Doesn't matter.  As long as you eventually get it right.  I think the differences are starker than you, but nonetheless, welcome to the torrent .  You're leading the charge.   Oh, it's not your love for Harris that's prompted you.  It's your disgust for Trump.

    excon
  • Cheech24Cheech24 48 Pts   -  
    @Joeseph

    I think it will be hard to determine the outcome based on polling as the last two elections theyve critically underpolled trump by 4-6 points in thr battleground states. In many of those states trump actually has very marginal lead.

    Whether theyve been able to update the way they poll from the previous two elections to account for the previous wrongs, I have no idea. But my best guess is they havent completely even if it got slightly closer.

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/elections/president/2024/battleground-states
  • FactfinderFactfinder 1894 Pts   -  
    Joeseph said:
    @Factfinder

    That's interesting on pensions ,over here you're taxed on private pensions but the  state pension which all citizens get is untaxed , you also get reduced fuel bills ,free bus and rail pass and various other small perks.

    I think paying tax on a private pension is theft as one already has paid tax on it.

    So you get a state pension which is taxed?

    Is a private pension taxed as well?
    What I have is my private retirement but it's not what you'd call a pension and that is supplemented with social security which is collected via taxes all our employed lives and then doled back out to us after we legally retire and we are over 62. After every year we are required to report the monthly installments as taxable income. Them alone would exempt you from income tax unless you have another source of income, then that's where taxing ssi checks start coming in cause it combines them with other income sources. Which I'll explain.

    That's the ssi end of it. My private retirement is in a Schwab 401k. What I'm doing with that is leaving it invested where Schwab has it and it remains tax free. Once a year though I take a payout, completely my choice, in an amount that supports me but still leaves enough invested that I make that money back the following year. Monies that I take out however get taxed and I actually receive an after tax pay out.

    Then say I take 30 grand out, that's taxed immediately as I mentioned. Then the "30 Grand" gets put with the total amount of what ssi paid to me, say 20 grand to keep it simple, well at this point my income tax is assed based on a $50,000 income, again.  (Note all monies at this point has been taxed at least once.) Then say something comes up and I take out another 10,000, see where I'm headed? On top of this everyone is paying sales tax and taxes disguised as fees in order to double, triple, taxes and skirt double taxation laws. The left in this country never sees a tax they don't like. They've been known to laugh at taxing too much in the past yet never rescinded a single tax. They are trying to devise way to tax our air and the miles we put on our cars for fu*cks sake. 

    In conclusion I feel it's still anyone's race. I don't want to underestimate the disgust the average working person has over being overtaxed coupled with an inflated economy continuously while the parties claim they will lower taxes, then don't, or not for you, or raise taxes on everyone; just less on arbitrarily designated small groups. That will go in Trumps favor. At the same time I don't want to underestimate stupidity either. One issue voters, the candidates, all are stoopid enough to give the election away as your thread highlights with the Trump incident.

    In 2016 Trump had the right idea, drain the swamp. He was just the wrong person to do it, but the only one to say it out loud so the republicans went with him and here we are.

    If we were taxed at 90% and we got the bang we should that that kind of money should bring in our daily lives I'd be all for it. But we need to clean out the corrupt Washington establishment that consists of both parties first. Otherwise it's a no go.



  • JoesephJoeseph 1534 Pts   -  
    @Factfinder

    Thanks for clarifying and I cannot fault your reasoning for voting the way you do , I detest the way politicians play these st-pid tit for tat games when there's real issues involving decent citizens like yourself who have every right to be concerned.

    Over here I normally vote to independent as I never really believed in a party loyalty once a party reneged on pre election promises.

    Last time around I told a few politicians on my doorstep to go f themselves and shut the gate on the way out as they couldn't answer a simple question I asked.

    I do like the fact that as an Artist I'm granted tax free exemption and I also have more or less free medical which in my case means a lot as I need a drug which would cost 20 ,000 euro a year.and I only have to pay 900 euro a year for it.
  • BoganBogan 629 Pts   -  
    @Factfinder ;   Yeah the polls are showing a slight lead by Kamala. 

    In 2014 "the polls" said that there was no way in hell that Donald Trump would be elected President.    Trump will win this time because the Democrats will not be able to use covid to corrupt the postal votes.   They know that Trump will win which is why they keep trying to jail him.  The more they try and jail him, the more that the US electorate smells a rat and the more popular he becomes.  
  • jackjack 728 Pts   -   edited November 2024
    Bogan said:

    In 2014 "the polls" said that there was no way in hell that Donald Trump would be elected President.    Trump will win this time because the Democrats will not be able to use covid to corrupt the postal votes. 
    Hello B:

    Nahhh.  There's polls, and there's the Des Moines Register poll..


    By the way, did he tell you about his glorious white skin??  Your skin is beautifully white too, amirit??


    excon


  • markemarke 662 Pts   -  
    @Joeseph

    Those who predicted a Kamala win should have been more careful to admit the inevitable was not so inevitable as misguided polls suggested.
    Joeseph
  • BarnardotBarnardot 778 Pts   -  
    @Joeseph ; Boy did I get that one wrong or what?

    No what at all. You got it wrong. Just like you get just about every thing else wrong.

  • BarnardotBarnardot 778 Pts   -  
    @Bogan ;If you are still a Democrat when you are 30, you haven't got a brain."   

    And if you are bigoted and a red neck bogan then you only have half a brain. Which is worse because it is dangerous.

  • BarnardotBarnardot 778 Pts   -  
    @marke ;Those who predicted a Kamala win should have been more careful to admit the inevitable was not so inevitable as misguided polls suggested.

    And the polls got it wrong last time too. It just goes to show that the polling people get paid to be biased about the figures. Which is exactly what Trump warned about when he suspects that the elections are rigged.

    They are rigged by the pollsters before the election who show only half the story because they are paid to do it.

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