We should be accepting of people's identities, to a certain point.

MayCaesar

Jules1 said:

@MayCeasar
Sex and gender are usually linked, but there are exceptions, like trans and non-binary people. 
Transsexual was changed due to the confusion with homosexual, as adding sexual to the end now evokes the idea of attraction to a certain gender(s).
Gender is limited to the 6 basic pronouns: She/Her, He/Him, They/Them. Though one can mix and match these according to their gender identity. 
Weirdos with pink hair are still that, weirdos with pink hair. No matter their set of pronouns there will always be weirdos, using the existence of weirdos to justify hate against certain groups of people is a bad argument. There are people on the right with SS skull tattoos and claim we need genocide, does that represent the whole right? No, it would be silly to represent the worst of a group of people and claim it is the norm.

You have failed to answer my general question though: "What is gender"? If it is sometimes not linked with sex, and can be changed at will, then what is it? Just another kind of a nickname? By cheapening it so much, it seems to me, you are undermining the whole movement. If all these people are fighting for is the ability to come up with a nickname, then there is nothing left to talk about, since everyone has that ability anyway. I am MayCaesar, that is my nickname. Could "MayCaesar" also be my gender?

Also, wait, why are weirdos with pink hair "the worst of a group"? By what criteria? What if I say that people who believe that they are not the sex they were born as "the worst" since they deny basic biology?

RickeyHoltsclaw

If you're pronouns desired are he, him and you're a her...I don't accept your lie.

Joeseph

@Jules1


Being a rat is different than having a feeling about your gender

How do you know what either feels like to make this distinction? 

. They are not even close to similar.


So how's Astralgender any closer or similar?

 I agree about stopping the debate here, I really dislike speaking about gender here considering it eventually gets jumped by Rickey or Bogan. 

Yes that's a fair point indeed.

Bogan

@Jules1

Jules quote   Sex and gender are usually linked, but there are exceptions, like trans and non-binary people. 

That is weirdo logic.     Normal people, who are the overwhelming majority, laugh at such an idea.  

Jules quote Transsexual was changed due to the confusion with homosexual, as adding sexual to the end now evokes the idea of attraction to a certain gender(s).

 Transvestites were considered so weird that even homosexuals preferred to give them another name to identify transvestites as a separate group to themselves.  

 

Jules quote  Gender is limited to the 6 basic pronouns: She/Her, He/Him, They/Them. Though one can mix and match these according to their gender identity. 

 Gender is, and always will be, limited to two pronouns.     Because that is how the overwhelming majority see the world.    “Normal” is what the overwhelming majority of people say, think, or do.   One reason for President Trump’s landslide win is because almost everybody rejects the whole idea of transvestitism and they think that transvestites are as weird as you can get and still function in society without being admitted into a mental institution.           The Left cannot pretend to be the voice of minorities if some minorities like Hispanics and Africans vehemently oppose transvestitism being taught to their kids in schools as normal by Marxist Democrat  teachers. 

 
Jules quote   Weirdos with pink hair are still that, weirdos with pink hair.

Interesting logic.  You seem to be saying that people with pink hair are weird?      Yet you are unable to understand that people who think that there are multiple genders are considered weird by the overwhelming majority of people?     And in addition to that, it is people who think that there are more than two genders are the very ones who like to display their “difference” to the rest of society by acting weird and walking around with pink hair.

 

Jules quote   No matter their set of pronouns there will always be weirdos, using the existence of weirdos to justify hate against certain groups of people is a bad argument.

 You are correct, there will always be people with mental problems.     But when one group of weirdos with mental problems demand that the rest of society consider that they are not weirdos with mental problems, then they can run that idea up the flagpole, but only near weirdos will salute it.     However, if weirdos use an increasingly corrupt democratic political system now riven by identity politics, to force normal people to normalise their insanity, then identity politics will start to unravel as their weirdo view of life even offends other minority groups.

 

Jules quote   There are people on the right with SS skull tattoos and claim we need genocide, does that represent the whole right? No, it would be silly to represent the worst of a group of people and claim it is the norm.

 During world war 2, there were large populations of Germans in every East European country.    This was one of Hitler’s justifications for starting WW2, as he (and today Putin) maintained that wherever the majority of people in other countries were of German ethnicity, that was Germany.     During the war, Nazi Germany used those German ethnicities within their conquered countries to become the new elites running the countries for Germany.   These German ethnicities also provided the Einsatzgruppen who went around the conquered countries mass murdering anybody that Nazi Germany did not like.    When Germany was defeated, the once conquered countries realised that their own ethnic Germans, the very sort who may have SS skull tattoos, were a self evident existential threat to their people.     These countries then instituted a program of ethnic cleansing of Germans regardless of whether they had skull tattoos or not.     Would you agree or disagree that ethnic cleansing is a form of genocide, but that such a genocide of a particularly dangerous minority can be utterly vital for the self-preservation of the majority?      

Bogan