Why does the spiritually dead atheist (2 Corinthians 4:4) insist the Bible is immoral and aberrant in their childish efforts to obfuscate their sin and their destiny in Hell due their rejection of Jesus?
These iniquities highlighted in the Biblical Text are abundant due the Adamic sin-nature (Romans 5:12) and the
Scriptures highlight them thereby pointing us to our need for salvation (Galatians 3:24),
redemption (John 3:16), by faith in Jesus (1 Peter 1:18-19)...if the atheist possessed even a modicum of
wisdom and discernment and self-awareness, they would see the motives of
our Creator in highlighting these sins that pollute our soul, our fallen
World, and the atheist would seek redemption through Jesus as their Messiah
(John 3) and receive the imputation/gifting of Jesus' righteousness over their life (2 Corinthians 5:21) and consequently enter into New Covenant
relationship with the Father (Matthew 26:28), be forgiven by New
Covenant promise (Hebrews 8:12) and walk daily in glorious sanctification through
obedience to the indwelling Holy Spirit gifted to all who trust in
Jesus as Messiah/Lord/Savior (Ephesians 1:13-14; Galatians 5:16-23);
unfortunately, the spiritually dead atheist "chooses" to live in spiritual ignorance and arrogance and
self-righteousness all of which are fitting for the fires of Hell in
rebellion to the Holy Spirit's divine Truth (Revelation 20:11-15; John 17:17).
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@RickeyHoltsclaw
Which atheist?
The Bible is an inanimate book, that mostly sits on a shelf gathering dust.
Has Rickey gone?
Can Rickey ignore this reply?
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Well, I can't speak for those people but I can speak for normal people with their heads screwed on right and say that the bible is a load of total immoral, lying tripe.
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The smart ones respect your religion.
Smart people respect no religion ......but you couldn't know this as you're not smart by any stretch.
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I just think we should respect each others beliefs.
So you respect the views of racists? Why should we respect others beliefs?
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They shouldn't be bigots to people that have one but they can't do that
" THEY" Another unfounded sweeping generalisation.
. They have an innate need to be better than the people around them.
" They" Another sweeping generalisation
What's funny is is there so against wanting to be put in any kind of group
Atheism doesn't require a group it's a postion on one question alone , you didn't know this?
they won't even let you say there's a way to define atheism
"THEY" OK define it?
but they all basically share the same beliefs in bigotry.
" THEY" Yet another sweeping generalisation.
They basically want everybody to think like them this would totally take away their uniqueness which drives them crazy.
"THEY " Yet again another unfounded sweeping generalisation......Wow!
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If you can't stand by your words as an atheist don't whine to me about it.
So for all your talk you're just here to spread your contempt for atheists because they don't believe you. Well you certainly don't help the image of theists much. Not too bright. I stand by my words.
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Not all religious people are bigots. You do realize that? I've met a ton of people who are both religious and great people. Some are but its the same with atheists.
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Not all religious people are bigots
But i never said they were, so what are you on about.
.You do realize that?
I do yes , but you seem to like accusing me of things I never said whys that?
I've met a ton of people who are both religious and great people.
So did I, I'm married to one.
Some are but its the same with atheists.
Yes I know so why are you telling me all this?
So you respect the views of racists? Why should we respect others beliefs? So go on defend your point instead of this constant dodging and lying.
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I dont respect racists. I respect others beliefs because its their own thing. We dont need to fight over stuff like that. We should just accept they believe other stuff and leave them alone
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I dont respect racists
So you admit you don't believe we should respect others beliefs after saying we should , my work here is done.
. I respect others beliefs because its their own thing.
But you don't you just admitted you don't.
We dont need to fight over stuff like that
Why who's fighting?
We should just accept they believe other stuff and leave them alone
Who are you talking about exactly?
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I think that if you're really smart you would have no respect for religion at all. For example, I tolerate religion, but I have absolutely no respect for a doctrine based on lies and misinformation and ancient barbaric rules that set, out to control naive, weak people through morbid fear.
And all religious people are bigots. I accept that most people who say they are religious don't even believe in God and identify with their religion through cultural or family pressures. Others will join a religious group because they are bigoted anyway and want to hide behind the rules to make themselves somehow justified in their horrible ways and thinking.
But if someone wears the badge, everyone has the right to label him with what goes on behind the badge. That is, if you belong to a group that hates minority groups then it is only fair that society has a right to call you a bigot.
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Sure, you get atheists who are bigots. But we need to bear in mind that atheists who happen to be bigoted are not bigots because they are atheists. In fact the very word atheist means that they don't have religious beliefs (which includes hatred of minorities).
All religious people are bigoted because they are religious for the very reason that I explained. If you associate with a group, then it is fair that you should be labelled as harboring the beliefs of that group.
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I think it's relevant to realize that what you call "religious" bigotry is the same as non-religious bigotry. In other words, religion contains bigotry. So, if you are religious, you are automatically a bigot. Atheists are nowhere near as likely to be bigots. For example, there is no atheist doctrine that preaches hatred towards gays.
And so far as that half-brain nit @Bogan goes.... He can keep spewing out all that ridiculous unjustified filth as much as he likes but to say that he does in the name of atheism is incorrect since atheism is inherently without belief. Bogan is a bigot because he is a nasty, extremist, di*k-wit which has nothing to do with being an atheist.
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I don’t know how you arrived at atheists feeling superior because there is nothing anywhere that proves that at all.
There is plenty of proof that religious feel superior because ChristiAns are told in church that they are special and God has a blueprint for they. Also they believe that atheists are immoral and will go to hell.
Old Testament, New Testament. It’s the Bible. One book and Christians will always try to tell you that Oh no, we only do the New Testament or Oh no, our Christian group is not like the others. What a bunch of deceitful hypocrites they are. One Bible, one religion. It’s corrupt, immoral, built on barbaric practices.
And to clarify, I said that all religious people are homophobic because they belong to a homophobic group. If someone goes around in a KKK outfit and says he is not racist because he just belongs to the group for the fellowship then he is pulling your leg.
If someone prescribes to a religion he is bigoted. All religious people are bigots, immoral and liers. There is no one in the world who is a bigot, immoral an a lier because of atheism. Nobody at all.
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Atheists feel an immediate superiority to everyone who isn't an atheist making them immediately bigot
Wow! You really do hate Atheists don't you?
. So here's the thing first off you say Christians are immediately homophobic because of the Bible but that's Old Testament
Well they are told to be homophonic read a bible , also so what if it's old Testament.....not one jot or word of is the is to ignored , it's all there in the book you never read.
so a Christian that's homophobic actually isn't following doctrine.
They are ignoring tye doctrine actually
Atheist hate theists with no book or doctrine
That's all in your own mind.
So honestly which one is worse sounds to me like they're just about the same.
But this is all in your head nothing more.
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Atheist are bigots and gas lighters who knew.
Says Poly the bigot.
. Notice how the Jews weren't addressed when it came to the homophobia.
What?
That's because I was told by an atheist that atheist or afraid to say anything about Jews for fear of looking bigoted but they say the same things that they would say about Jews to Christians but it's not bigoted. Who knew.
Yet another unfounded sweeping generalisation, you seem terribly upset at Atheists maybe thats an inferiority issue you have going on ....understandable I guess.
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But you know they know the stuff more than we do.
Well that's obviously true in your case as you're a fan of biblical slavery it seems.
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Of course I'm a fan of biblical slavery I'm a fan of all slavery I'm a theist.
I know
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I'm a fan of abortion because I'm a pagan and I'm a fan of sexism because I'm a woman. I'm also a fan of racism because I'm white.
The must be wonderfully fulfilling for your type, whatever rocks your boat .......
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She just admitted she's a racist absolutionist like @Bogan ROLMAO
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@polytheistwitch
I live in a small village where church is popular.
I have a lot of theist friends and neighbours.
None of them think or behave as you do.
Why would that be Poly?
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The dishonesty from these people is appalling, they invent strawman positions to arguments we aren't making so they can argue against positions we have never taken, oh and we are the bigots also .......weird.
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Oh my God that poor woman I wonder if she knows that's what he thinks about her.
But I think she's wonderful and I respect her beliefs as she's a kind ,caring individual, unfortunately the only so called christians I've met on here are ones like Rickey who tells everyone how much he hates them , then there's Just Lying who does just that consistently lies and cannot debate without resorting to constant sneery one liners and total misrepresentations of others arguments.
Then there's you a judgemental, bitter, frustrated cow , who is incapable of basic common courtesies all because you have an irrational fixation on Atheists , I just bet you're a bundle of laughs to be around .......not
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Shes not the full twist I'm thinking .
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I may get my wife on so Poly can offer her advice on where she's going wrong.
Well, that is one of the easiest ways for someone to feel important, is it not? Better believe that some group of people hates you, than accept that most people really could not care less about you. The latter is liberating, but uncomfortable to ego-driven people, so here we go...
Yes you're right, I feel Poly gets a buzz feeling she's a victim , the self importance of these people is absurd.
I remember being at a party with my wife before we got married and the party was a dreadful bore , I said to herself " let's bail out" she said " but they will notice" ........I replied " they won't even notice we are gone" ......i was right two days later the host said " what time did you leave at I must have missed you both?"
My wife never forgot this I told her "we are not as important as we like to think we are.".......... you're a wise man as this was pretty obvious to you.
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RICKEYHOLTSCLAW, THE BIBLE LOSER!
'Why does the Bible inept pseudo-christians like RickeyHoltsclaw insist on running away from deplorable Christian morals in my thread shown herewith: https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/10387/examples-of-deplorable-christian-bible-morality
Why does the spiritually dead pseudo-christian like RickeyHoltsclaw not follow Jesus’s words where he states to defend the faith (1 Thessalonians 2:13), where RickeyHoltsclaw cannot do this command, other than to run away from disturbing bible passages in a childish way?
AS EXPLICITLY SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING EXAMPLES, "RICKEYHOLTSCLAW IS NOT A CHRISTIAN” BECAUSE HE RUNS AWAY FROM JESUS’ WRITTEN DEPLORABLE WORDS SHOWN BELOW!
1. Rickey blatanty RUNS AWAY from me where I show that his Jesus as god was a BRUTAL ABORTIONIST!
https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197899/#Comment_197899
2. Rickey RUNS AWAY from the biblical fact that he to kill anyone that tries to change his mind to worship another god!
https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197796/#Comment_197796
3. Rickey makes another vain attempt to “Deflect” again with yet another lame EXCUSE to not answer my slavery topics!
https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197554/#Comment_197554
4. Because Rickey is so bible stoopied, I asked Just_LYING and marke to help Rickey out of his embarrassing situation!
https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197548/#Comment_197548
5. Rickey comes up with another “EXCUSE” to runaway from many of my topics that show him to be the Bible FOOL!
https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197548/#Comment_197548
6. Rickey “Deflects again” when he goes off topic to the slavery issue to once again try and save face that I own him on this topic!
https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197546/#Comment_197546
7. Rickey essentially ADMITS that my bible knowledge is superior to his “pre-school” knowledge of same, praise!
https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197544/#Comment_197544
8. Rickey “Deflected” again from the topic to try and save himself from me owning him and his faith regarding slavery!
https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197542/#Comment_197542
9. Rickey admits that I own him on the topic bible slavery!
https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197534/#Comment_197534
10. I showed where Rickey could “sell his daughter” in the Bible, but he ran away from this biblical fact and went into hiding!
https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197532/#Comment_197532
11. Rickey admits that the Bible regulated the slave trade, but I showed abhorred examples in how the Bible did it that Rickey had to run away from and hide again!
https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197527/#Comment_197527
12. RickeyHoltsclaw is caught LYING, where he said slaves were emancipated in the Bible, where they were not as I have shown!
https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197528/#Comment_197528
13. Jesus promotes the BEATING of children with a “rod,” and poor Rickey had to run away from this biblical axiom as well!
https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197529/#Comment_197529
14. Jesus promotes SLAVE ownership and Children SLAVES, yes, Rickey ran away from this biblical axiom!
https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197530/#Comment_197530
RUN RICKEY, RUN, WHERE JESUS IS EMBARRASSED OF YOUR WEAK STANDING WITHIN THIS RELIGION FORUM, HURRY, RUN!
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A lot of people I know also are religious but religion is rarely ever talked about and if it is its in a very casual way more as an aside.
The witch just has this need to box us all off with her preffered list of negative traits which she has done but keeps repeating nonsense non stop for some reason known to herself.
It's very strange behavior indeed the constant repetition by the witch , Rickey and just Lying who is still trying to assert miracles into existence, do people like this think we are going to suddenly say " OK god exists , atheists are nasty and miracles happen" , it's preaching nothing more and it's ineffectiveness never seems to cross their collective minds.
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