Why does the atheist insist the Bible is immoral and aberrant?

Fredsnephew

Argument Topic: Hey Rickey.

@RickeyHoltsclaw

Which atheist?

The Bible is an inanimate book, that mostly sits on a shelf gathering dust.


Has Rickey gone?

Can Rickey ignore this reply?

polytheistwitch

Look at the three most violent religions on Earth, look at their holy books, they all have something in common. The original Jewish text and the God of Abraham.

Barnardot

@RickeyHoltsclaw ;Why does the spiritually dead atheist.....

Well, I can't speak for those people but I can speak for normal people with their heads screwed on right and say that the bible is a load of total immoral, lying tripe.

Brunchfastfordinner

@RickeyHoltsclaw not all atheists think that. Only a small chunk. The smart ones respect your religion. If I dont have the same beliefs as you does that automatically mean I think your bible is "Immoral" and "Aberrant"? No. It doesn't.

Joeseph

@Brunchfastfordinner

The smart ones respect your religion. 

Smart people respect no religion ......but you couldn't know this as you're not smart by any stretch.

Brunchfastfordinner

@Joeseph I just think we should respect each others beliefs.

polytheistwitch

Atheist don't need to  respect religion. They shouldn't be bigots to people that have one but they can't do that. They have an innate need to be better than the people around them. What's funny is is there so against wanting to be put in any kind of group they won't even let you say there's a way to define atheism but they all basically share the same beliefs in bigotry. They basically want everybody to think like them this would totally take away their uniqueness which drives them crazy. 

Brunchfastfordinner

@polytheistwitch I've seen religious people that have the beliefs of bigots. Not all religious people are bigots. Same with atheists.

Factfinder

polytheistwitch said:

Atheist don't need to  respect religion. They shouldn't be bigots to people that have one but they can't do that. They have an innate need to be better than the people around them. What's funny is is there so against wanting to be put in any kind of group they won't even let you say there's a way to define atheism but they all basically share the same beliefs in bigotry. They basically want everybody to think like them this would totally take away their uniqueness which drives them crazy. 

You're the one who can't help but stereotype atheists across the board because none think like you.

polytheistwitch

@Brunchfastfordinner Sure it's just the ones on debate sites.

polytheistwitch

If you can't stand by your words as an atheist don't whine to me about it.

Joeseph

@Brunchfastfordinner

 I just think we should respect each others beliefs.

So you respect the views of racists? Why should we respect others beliefs? 

polytheistwitch

Well they're going to respect atheists for bigotry? Why not racist?

Joeseph

@polytheistwitch

They shouldn't be bigots to people that have one but they can't do that

" THEY" Another unfounded sweeping generalisation.

. They have an innate need to be better than the people around them.

" They"  Another sweeping generalisation 


 What's funny is is there so against wanting to be put in any kind of group

Atheism doesn't require a group it's a postion on one question alone , you didn't know this?


 they won't even let you say there's a way to define atheism

"THEY" OK define it?


 but they all basically share the same beliefs in bigotry.

 " THEY" Yet another sweeping generalisation. 



 They basically want everybody to think like them this would totally take away their uniqueness which drives them crazy. 

"THEY " Yet again another unfounded sweeping generalisation......Wow! 

Factfinder

@polytheistwitch

If you can't stand by your words as an atheist don't whine to me about it.

So for all your talk you're just here to spread your contempt for atheists because they don't believe you. Well you certainly don't help the image of theists much. Not too bright. I stand by my words.

Brunchfastfordinner

@Joeseph
Not all religious people are bigots. You do realize that? I've met a ton of people who are both religious and great people. Some are but its the same with atheists.

Joeseph

@Brunchfastfordinner

Not all religious people are bigots

But i never said they were,  so what are you on about.


.You do realize that?

I do yes , but you seem to like accusing me of things I never said whys that?


 I've met a ton of people who are both religious and great people.

So did I,  I'm married to one.

 Some are but its the same with atheists.

Yes I know so why are you telling me all this?

 Here is what you actually said and are attempting to dodge , do you want to try a bit of honesty and defend your point instead of lying about what I said?

I just think we should respect each others beliefs.

So you respect the views of racists? Why should we respect others beliefs?  So go on defend your point instead of this constant dodging and lying.

Brunchfastfordinner

@Joeseph
I dont respect racists. I respect others beliefs because its their own thing. We dont need to fight over stuff like that. We should just accept they believe other stuff and leave them alone

Joeseph

@Brunchfastfordinner

I dont respect racists

So you admit you don't believe we should respect others beliefs after  saying we should , my work here is done.


. I respect others beliefs because its their own thing.

But you don't you just admitted you don't.


We dont need to fight over stuff like that

Why who's fighting?


We should just accept they believe other stuff and leave them alone

Who are you talking about exactly?

Barnardot

@Brunchfastfordinner @Joseph @Factfinder @poloytheistwitch ; ......not all atheists think that. Only a small chunk. The smart ones respect your religion.....
....Not all religious people are bigots.

I think that if you're really smart you would have no respect for religion at all. For example, I tolerate religion, but I have absolutely no respect for a doctrine based on lies and misinformation and ancient barbaric rules that set, out to control naive, weak people through morbid fear.

And all religious people are bigots. I accept that most people who say they are religious don't even believe in God and identify with their religion through cultural or family pressures. Others will join a religious group because they are bigoted anyway and want to hide behind the rules to make themselves somehow justified in their horrible ways and thinking.

But if someone wears the badge, everyone has the right to label him with what goes on behind the badge. That is, if you belong to a group that hates minority groups then it is only fair that society has a right to call you a bigot.

polytheistwitch

So basically you think all religious people are bigots but you believe half religious people are atheist so basically atheists are bigots thanks for backing me up.

Barnardot

@polytheistwitch ;So basically you think all religious people are bigots but you believe half religious people are atheist....

Sure, you get atheists who are bigots. But we need to bear in mind that atheists who happen to be bigoted are not bigots because they are atheists. In fact the very word atheist means that they don't have religious beliefs (which includes hatred of minorities). 

All religious people are bigoted because they are religious for the very reason that I explained. If you associate with a group, then it is fair that you should be labelled as harboring the beliefs of that group.

polytheistwitch

You realize there's other kinds of bigotry than just religious bigotry for instance Bodan or whatever thinks he's better than people of color. And hes an atheist so it seems that they're just as likely to be bigots. If they're atheists then their bigots because they're atheist. But all atheists are biggest to theist specifically because they're atheists.

Barnardot

@polytheistwitch ;You realize there's other kinds of bigotry than just religious bigotry. And hes an atheist so it seems that they're just as likely to be bigots.

I think it's relevant to realize that what you call "religious" bigotry is the same as non-religious bigotry. In other words, religion contains bigotry. So, if you are religious, you are automatically a bigot. Atheists are nowhere near as likely to be bigots. For example, there is no atheist doctrine that preaches hatred towards gays.

And so far as that half-brain nit @Bogan goes.... He can keep spewing out all that ridiculous unjustified filth as much as he likes but to say that he does in the name of atheism is incorrect since atheism is inherently without belief. Bogan is a bigot because he is a nasty, extremist, di*k-wit which has nothing to do with being an atheist.

polytheistwitch

Atheists feel an immediate superiority to everyone who isn't an atheist making them immediately bigots. So here's the thing first off you say Christians are immediately homophobic because of the Bible but that's Old Testament so a Christian that's  homophobic actually isn't following doctrine. Atheist hate theists with no book or doctrine. So honestly which one is worse sounds to me like they're just about the same.

MayCaesar

polytheistwitch said:

Atheists feel an immediate superiority to everyone who isn't an atheist making them immediately bigots.

Irony of the year?

Barnardot

@polytheistwitch ;Atheists feel an immediate superiority to everyone ……So here's the thing first off you say Christians are immediately homophobic because of the Bible but that's Old Testament so a Christian that's  homophobic actually isn't following doctrine. Atheist hate theists with no book or doctrine. So honestly which one is worse sounds to me like they're just about the same.

I don’t know how you arrived at atheists feeling superior because there is nothing anywhere that proves that at all.

There is plenty of proof that religious feel superior because ChristiAns are told in church that they are special and God has a blueprint for they. Also they believe that atheists are immoral and will go to hell. 

Old Testament, New Testament. It’s the Bible. One book and Christians will always try to tell you that Oh no, we only do the New Testament or Oh no, our Christian group is not like the others. What a bunch of deceitful hypocrites they are. One Bible, one religion. It’s corrupt, immoral, built on barbaric practices. 

And to clarify, I said that all religious people are homophobic because they belong to a homophobic group. If someone goes around in a KKK outfit and says he is not racist because he just belongs to the group for the fellowship then he is pulling your leg. 

If someone prescribes to a religion he is bigoted. All religious people are bigots, immoral and liers. There is no one in the world who is a bigot, immoral an a lier because of atheism. Nobody at all.

Joeseph

@polytheistwitch

Atheists feel an immediate superiority to everyone who isn't an atheist making them immediately bigot

Wow! You really do hate Atheists don't you?


. So here's the thing first off you say Christians are immediately homophobic because of the Bible but that's Old Testament

Well they are told to be homophonic read a bible , also so what if it's old Testament.....not one jot or word of  is the is to ignored , it's all there in the book you never read.


so a Christian that's homophobic actually isn't following doctrine.

They are ignoring tye doctrine actually 


Atheist hate theists with no book or doctrine

That's all in your own mind.


 So honestly which one is worse sounds to me like they're just about the same.

But this is all in your head nothing more.

polytheistwitch

Atheist are bigots and gas lighters who knew. Notice how the Jews weren't addressed when it came to the homophobia. That's because I was told by an atheist that atheist or afraid to say anything about Jews for fear of looking bigoted but they say the same things that they would say about Jews to Christians but it's not bigoted. Who knew.

Joeseph

@polytheistwitch

Atheist are bigots and gas lighters who knew.

Says Poly the bigot.


. Notice how the Jews weren't addressed when it came to the homophobia.

What?

 That's because I was told by an atheist that atheist or afraid to say anything about Jews for fear of looking bigoted but they say the same things that they would say about Jews to Christians but it's not bigoted. Who knew.

Yet another unfounded sweeping generalisation,  you seem terribly upset at Atheists maybe thats an  inferiority issue you have going on ....understandable I guess.

polytheistwitch

You notice how he doesn't even realize the Old Testament is compilation of Jewish texts. So when he refers to the Old Testament where homosexuals are supposed to be killed he's discussing Christians and Jews. But you know they know the stuff more than we do.

Joeseph

@polytheistwitch

But you know they know the stuff more than we do.

Well that's obviously true in your case as you're a fan of biblical slavery it seems.

polytheistwitch

Of course I'm a fan of biblical slavery I'm a fan of all slavery I'm a theist. 

Joeseph

@polytheistwitch

Of course I'm a fan of biblical slavery I'm a fan of all slavery I'm a theist.


 I know 

polytheistwitch

I'm a fan of abortion because I'm a pagan and I'm a fan of sexism because I'm a woman. I'm also a fan of racism because I'm white.

Joeseph

@polytheistwitch

I'm a fan of abortion because I'm a pagan and I'm a fan of sexism because I'm a woman. I'm also a fan of racism because I'm white.


The must be wonderfully fulfilling for your type,  whatever rocks your boat .......

Factfinder

@Joeseph

She just admitted she's a racist absolutionist like @Bogan ROLMAO

polytheistwitch

I'm everything that you guys say theists are. Why are you acting surprised? I mean you guys know that's what we're all like right? 

MayCaesar

@polytheistwitch

It looks like most of the time you are talking to yourself. Where are all those people who think that "you are all like"? I am seeing a theist woman, @Joeseph has a theist wife, @Factfinder used to be theist himself - and none of us think that theists are somehow inherently inferior to us. Anyone I am missing?

polytheistwitch

Oh my God that poor woman I wonder if she knows that's what he thinks about her.

Fredsnephew

Argument Topic: Hey Poly.

@polytheistwitch

I live in a small village where church is popular.

I have a lot of theist friends and neighbours.

None of them think or behave as you do.


Why would that be Poly?

Joeseph

@MayCaesar

The dishonesty from these people is appalling,   they invent strawman positions to arguments we aren't making so they can argue against positions we have never taken, oh and we are the bigots also .......weird.

MayCaesar

polytheistwitch said:

Oh my God that poor woman I wonder if she knows that's what he thinks about her.

She does. But maybe I do not and you can enlighten me?

Joeseph said:

@MayCaesar

The dishonesty from these people is appalling,   they invent strawman positions to arguments we aren't making so they can argue against positions we have never taken, oh and we are the bigots also .......weird.

Well, that is one of the easiest ways for someone to feel important, is it not? Better believe that some group of people hates you, than accept that most people really could not care less about you. The latter is liberating, but uncomfortable to ego-driven people, so here we go...

Joeseph

@polytheistwitch

Oh my God that poor woman I wonder if she knows that's what he thinks about her.

But I think she's wonderful and I respect her beliefs as she's a kind ,caring individual,  unfortunately the only so called christians I've met on  here  are  ones like Rickey who tells everyone how much he hates them , then there's Just Lying who does just that consistently lies and cannot debate without resorting to constant  sneery one liners and total misrepresentations of others arguments.

Then there's you a judgemental,  bitter,  frustrated cow  , who is incapable of basic common courtesies all because you have an irrational fixation on Atheists , I just bet you're a bundle of laughs to be around .......not 

Joeseph

@Factfinder

Shes not the full twist I'm thinking .

Joeseph

@MayCaesar

I may get my wife on so Poly can offer her  advice on where she's going wrong.

Well, that is one of the easiest ways for someone to feel important, is it not? Better believe that some group of people hates you, than accept that most people really could not care less about you. The latter is liberating, but uncomfortable to ego-driven people, so here we go...

Yes you're right,  I feel Poly gets a buzz feeling she's a victim , the self importance of these people is absurd.

I remember being at a party with my wife before we got married and the party  was a dreadful bore , I  said to herself " let's bail out" she said " but they will notice" ........I replied " they won't even notice we are gone" ......i was right two days later the host said " what time did you leave at I must have missed you both?" 


My wife never forgot this I told her "we are not as important as we like to think we are.".......... you're a wise man as this was pretty obvious to you.

MayCaesar

@Joeseph

Indeed, that is what it is: these people take their existence far too seriously. The lighthearted religious friends I have will laugh at the odd "A Catholic, a Muslim and a Buddhist walk into a bar..." joke, while uptight egoists will take it as a personal attack - assuming that they are take an important enough place in my life for me to even bother attacking them.

Ultimately, the most important person in your life is yourself. Then come your loved ones, family and friends. Then colleagues and acquaintances... Where on this list are people like the witch who come out of nowhere on some website and start throwing accusations at you? Pretty far down, I would say.

21CenturyIconoclast

@RickeyHoltsclaw


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RICKEYHOLTSCLAW, THE BIBLE LOSER!

'Why does the Bible inept pseudo-christians like RickeyHoltsclaw insist on running away from deplorable Christian morals in my thread shown herewith:  https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/10387/examples-of-deplorable-christian-bible-morality

Why does the spiritually dead pseudo-christian like RickeyHoltsclaw not follow Jesus’s words where he states to defend the faith (1 Thessalonians 2:13), where RickeyHoltsclaw cannot do this command, other than to run away from disturbing bible passages in a childish way?

AS EXPLICITLY SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING EXAMPLES, "RICKEYHOLTSCLAW IS NOT A CHRISTIAN” BECAUSE HE RUNS AWAY FROM JESUS’ WRITTEN DEPLORABLE WORDS SHOWN BELOW!

1. Rickey blatanty RUNS AWAY from me where I show that his Jesus as god was a BRUTAL ABORTIONIST!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197899/#Comment_197899

2. Rickey RUNS AWAY from the biblical fact that he to kill anyone that tries to change his mind to worship another god!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197796/#Comment_197796

3. Rickey makes another vain attempt to “Deflect” again with yet another lame EXCUSE to not answer my slavery topics!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197554/#Comment_197554

4. Because Rickey is so bible stoopied, I asked Just_LYING and marke to help Rickey out of his embarrassing situation!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197548/#Comment_197548

5. Rickey comes up with another “EXCUSE” to runaway from many of my topics that show him to be the Bible FOOL!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197548/#Comment_197548

6. Rickey “Deflects again” when he goes off topic to the slavery issue to once again try and save face that I own him on this topic!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197546/#Comment_197546

7. Rickey essentially ADMITS that my bible knowledge is superior to his “pre-school” knowledge of same, praise!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197544/#Comment_197544

8. Rickey “Deflected” again from the topic to try and save himself from me owning him and his faith regarding slavery!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197542/#Comment_197542

9. Rickey admits that I own him on the topic bible slavery!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197534/#Comment_197534

10. I showed where Rickey could “sell his daughter” in the Bible, but he ran away from this biblical fact and went into hiding!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197532/#Comment_197532

11. Rickey admits that the Bible regulated the slave trade, but I showed abhorred examples in how the Bible did it that Rickey had to run away from and hide again!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197527/#Comment_197527

12. RickeyHoltsclaw is caught LYING, where he said slaves were emancipated in the Bible, where they were not as I have shown!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197528/#Comment_197528

13. Jesus promotes the BEATING of children with a “rod,” and poor Rickey had to run away from this biblical axiom as well!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197529/#Comment_197529

14. Jesus promotes SLAVE ownership and Children SLAVES,  yes, Rickey ran away from this biblical axiom!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/197530/#Comment_197530

RUN RICKEY, RUN, WHERE JESUS IS EMBARRASSED OF YOUR WEAK STANDING WITHIN THIS RELIGION FORUM, HURRY, RUN!

.

polytheistwitch

All these posts from atheists in a religious form telling us how much better than us they are. And how they don't respect any of us but they respect the theists in their life because you know those theists are different than the ones on the internet. Sounds like a bunch of B. S. to me. I guess when the majority of people are Christian you have to tolerate them in your life. Lucky for us atheists are really small number compared to us.

Joeseph

@MayCaesar

A lot of people I know also  are religious but religion is  rarely ever talked about and if it is its in a very casual way more as an aside.

The witch just has this need to box us all off with her preffered list of negative traits  which she has done but  keeps repeating nonsense non stop for some reason known to herself.

It's very strange behavior indeed the constant repetition by the witch , Rickey and just Lying who is still trying to assert miracles into existence, do people like this think we are going to suddenly say " OK god exists , atheists are nasty and miracles happen" , it's preaching nothing more and it's ineffectiveness never seems to cross their collective minds.