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Christians are HYPOCRITES if they have a Christmas tree!

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The primitive thinking JUDEO-Christian bible says a Christmas tree is the way of the HEATHEN as described biblically herewith:

“Hear ye the word which the Lord speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.  For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.” (Jeremiah 10:1-5)


Pseudo-christians, deducing it down to its irreducible primary, what do you pay homage to when you have a Christmas Tree? The impetus for the tree is your brutal serial killer Jesus, and his alleged birthday!

Therefore, Jesus’ words say that this HEATHEN TREE becomes an "idol" of homage as it sits there being a fire hazard, where pseudo-christians are not to have idols (1 John, 5:21). The Xmas tree is  also a graven image that pseudo-christians are to stay away from as well (Exodus 2:4). Either way, pseudo-christians go directly against their Jesus as god by having a HEATHEN XMAS TREE in their homes at Christmas!

Besides, the HEATHEN Christmas tree are derived from man, therefore Jesus as god is very specific about not following the traditions of men!  (Mark 7:8, Mat. 15:3, Mark 7:13, Col. 2:8, Gal. 4:3, John 7:17, Titus 1:9, Rom. 8:14-16.) 


AT CHRISTMAS TIME, NO HEATHEN CHRISTMAS TREES FOR PSEUDO-CHRISTIANS, SO SAITH THE WORD OF THE SERIAL KILLER GOD JESUS!



Here is an example of the mythical Jesus that has had enough of pseudo-christians having a HEATHEN XMAS TREE in their homes, where he lit this tree with fire to make his point in Jeremiah 10:1-5 shown above!






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  • markemarke 661 Pts   -  
    @21CenturyIconoclast

    If Christians worship a pagan god with trees as idols then the Christians are hypocrites.
    Joeseph
  • @marke

    YOUR QUOTE OUT OF CONTEXT TO THE TOPIC: "If Christians worship a pagan god with trees as idols then the Christians are hypocrites."

    Uh, the topic is that if pseudo-christians like YOU have a Xmas Tree, then you are HEATHENS so saith your serial killer Jesus!  Get it Bible DUNCE?!

    Take a deep breath, exhale, and read my initial post again to understand its true meaning!

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  • just_sayinjust_sayin 1360 Pts   -  
    @21CenturyIconoclast

    LOL!!!  Trying to troll the yuletide carol, eh?  What silliness!  A Christmas tree is not an idol of worship.  It is a symbol that reminds us of how the Christ child is our 'tree of life'.  

    The modern Christmas tree tradition originates from Germany in the 16th century, when devout Christians began bringing decorated trees into their homes for the Christmas season. The "paradise tree," which represented the Garden of Eden, became a focal point of Christmas celebrations. This tree was adorned with wafers and later replaced by cookies and candles, representing the light of Christ.  It originally carried the connotation as a 'new tree of life' - symbolizing the eternal life that the Christ child would provide through his death and resurrection.

    Think of it as a symbol in the same sense as the stones that the Israelites erected to remind them of God's blessings.  To help your Biblical ignorance, here is my AI's response:

    The Bible does not explicitly outlaw memorials that encourage one's Christian faith; in fact, it contains multiple instances where memorial practices are encouraged and recognized as important. These memorials serve to remind individuals and communities of significant events and divine interventions in their lives.

        Biblical References to Memorials
    Memorials in the Bible often commemorate pivotal events or divine guidance. For instance, in the Book of Exodus, God instructed the Israelites to observe Passover as a memorial to their deliverance from Egypt, emphasizing remembrance as vital to their faith. The act of remembering God's faithfulness is not only supported but mandated, with specific ceremonies established to ensure the community remembers these events.

        Purpose of Memorials
    Memorials in biblical contexts serve several purposes:
    Remembrance**: They help believers remember God's acts and maintain a collective memory of faith.
    Teaching**: They provide an educational tool, especially for future generations, promoting faith and understanding of God's promises.
    Community Identity**: They foster a sense of identity and continuity within the community of believers, reinforcing shared beliefs and values.

        New Testament Practices
    In the New Testament, the practice of communion (or the Eucharist) is described as a memorial to Jesus Christ's sacrifice, where he instructed his followers to "do this in remembrance of me". This further cements the idea that memorials with Christian significance are a vital part of worship and community life.

        Cultural Context and Controversy
    While the Bible does not condemn memorials, there may be tensions in certain cultural or political contexts regarding religious expressions in public spaces. Legal discussions often arise not from biblical teachings but from broader societal debates about the separation of church and state. These discussions can lead to circumstances where religious symbols in public memorials may be contested.

        Conclusion
    Consequently, memorials that encourage one's Christian faith are not outlawed in the Bible. Instead, they are woven into the fabric of biblical teachings as essential elements that serve to remind believers of God's faithfulness, educate new generations, and strengthen community ties. The practice of establishing memorials is deeply rooted in the scriptural tradition and reflects the importance of memory in the life of faith.

    Sources: 
    [4] The Bible in America's Memorials - Way of Life Literature, https://www.wayoflife.org/reports/the-bible-in-americas-memorials.php

    So you are competing with 1/4inchworm Joe for the one who knows the least about the Bible?  At the rate you are going, you might win.  But know that dumbness is the only thing that @Joeseph always measures bigger than everyone else in.  
  • 21CenturyIconoclast21CenturyIconoclast 580 Pts   -   edited December 2024
    @just_sayin

    Just_LYING, who wants Rickeys notoriety is being the number one BIBLE FOOL!

    I'll start with this proposition first regarding your bible stoopidity.  What part of the term "HEATHEN" don't you understand in Jeremiah 10:1-5 when it can refer to a dumbfounded pseudo-christian like YOU if you cut a tree down and bring it in the house and decorate it?!

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  • As a Heathen I agree 100%. Everything Christmas is pagan. I will give them Easter but Christmas is all paganism. You can talk yourself into anything about keeping it you like. You're lying to yourself. 
  • FactfinderFactfinder 1848 Pts   -  
    @just_sayin

    Seems straight forward to me. I know you hate that because things written with such obvious literal implications are harder for you to spin. But none the less 21Century accurately used the scripture from Jerimiah 10:1-5 and correctly interpreted it as the author had obviously intended. "Don't adorn trees as the heathen do in winter, that's idolatry" warns the elf god prophet. Centuries later German christians doing what they do best; saw a heathen tradition being practiced that their bibles warn them about but instead of answering the call of their elf god that they're supposed to revere, they decide they want to have that heathen traditional too; and just call it "in the name of Jesus" we highjack and steal this heathen tradition for winter solstice as our own. Despite their own elf book waning them. Your problem just_lyin is you always depend on circular logic of indoctrination when you're trying to talk to people who use critical thought and education. 

    https://www.zmescience.com/science/history-articles/origin-christmas-tree-pagan/#:~:text=Like most Christmas traditions, including,Christmas tree is entirely pagan.
  • Christian Germans have adapted their own pagan traditions into their new religion. That's why the pagan symbology permeates Christian holy days. 
  • JoesephJoeseph 1483 Pts   -  
    @just_sayin

    So you are competing with 1/4inchworm Joe for the one who knows the least about the Bible?

    Bwahahahahahawahahaha the Pentecostal virgin Just Lying is still obsessing about his miniscule  size which is still  in its wrapper.

    You're only back after licking your wounds after your last schooling on the bible.
     
     At the rate you are going, you might win.

    Winning is a alien concept to you, 


    But know that dumbness is the only thing that @Joeseph always measures bigger than everyone else in.  

    Says  Just Lying the retard who pretends to talk in tounges and claims the earth is 6,000 years old ......now that's truly dumb.

    Hey don't take it out on us that god took the ole sinner your ole man , maybe pray from him to find your car keys instead apparently he's Ace at that.
  • FredsnephewFredsnephew 508 Pts   -  
    Argument Topic: Hey Bro.

    @21CenturyIconoclast

    Thing is, Christians took a significant pagan solstice festival and made it their own.

    It is thought that the character known as Jesus was likely born in September, some 4 to 6 years BCE.

    And then we have Easter during the spring equinox period, hence more pagan symbolism.

    For me, the celestial solar orbit of the Earth is far more worthy of my appreciation than a misrepresented Middle Eastern folk tale is.

    So I will off to the spruce wood, adorn myself with holly and mistletoe and dance naked around the yule log with Poly.
  • polytheistwitchpolytheistwitch 263 Pts   -   edited December 2024
    Easter is based off of Passover. Some of the symbology used at Easter is definitely pagan but Easter is not a pagan holiday nor is it an adapted pagan holiday. Mistletoe isn't allowed in my house there's a whole reason for that. I live in a cold climate I don't do naked rituals. 
  • just_sayinjust_sayin 1360 Pts   -  
    As a Heathen I agree 100%. Everything Christmas is pagan. I will give them Easter but Christmas is all paganism. You can talk yourself into anything about keeping it you like. You're lying to yourself. 
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    This is going to sting.  There were pagan traditions of trees.  However, to claim that Christmas is pagan is false.  Its not that Christianity 'borrowed' pagan traditions because they liked paganism.  It is much more brutal than that.  Christianity took pagan symbols, by conquering pagans, then stripped their customs meanings of all of their pagan jargon, and made them their own. They crushed pagan culture and made it meaningless, and replaced their meaning with Christian themes.  They didn't embrace paganism - they obliterated it. They don't call it a pagan tree now do they?  
  • @Fredsnephew

    Everything you said is historically correct at the pseudo-christians embarrassing expense relative to their mythical Christianity that they "try" and defend it in the 21st Century of Science and reason!  

    The mythical Christian ruse continues into the 21st Century.  :(






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  • BarnardotBarnardot 763 Pts   -  
    @21CenturyIconoclast Christmas may be derived from Christian roots but nowadays it has no religious relevance at all. It is all about Santa Claus, who, unlike God and Christ, actually existed.

    So, at least civilization has moved on from celebrating spiritual things. People want to keep it real.
  • polytheistwitchpolytheistwitch 263 Pts   -   edited December 2024
    Actually a lot of pagans call it a Yule tree because nobody would call it a pagan tree that would be really s t u p i d since pagan isn't even a religion. And the fact that you're proud that Christians decimated populations of people based on their religion makes you a pretty sick piece of crap. You're probably the kind of person that sits and laughs when they talk about Native Americans dying from smallpox.
  • BarnardotBarnardot 763 Pts   -   edited December 2024
    @polytheistwitch ;Mistletoe isn't allowed in my house there's a whole reason for that. I live in a cold climate I don't do naked rituals. 

    When someone walks under the mistletoe all you need to do is give them a kiss. You don't need to take off your clothes. But if you want to take it all the way, then good for you. At least it will keep you warm :)

  • @Barnardot.  Are you drunk or high that you don't remember what you post seriously? Try it sober see how that works 

  • just_sayinjust_sayin 1360 Pts   -  
    Easter is based off of Passover. Some of the symbology used at Easter is definitely pagan but Easter is not a pagan holiday nor is it an adapted pagan holiday. Mistletoe isn't allowed in my house there's a whole reason for that. I live in a cold climate I don't do naked rituals. 
    Easter was associated with a pagan festival prior to Christ's resurrection.  Easter festivities were linked to ancient pagan celebrations of spring, particularly the vernal equinox, which signifies the return of longer days and the revival of nature.  Due to the timing of the event, with the resurrection, Christianity stripped Easter of its pagan meanings and replaced it with its own.  
  • Christian Easter is based off of Passover the fact that Passover is near the equinox doesn't mean jack crap. You keep acting like nobody still practices these holidays are you like really under the impression that there are no pagans in the world practicing their religions? You can't be that dumb. Can you act like you're proud that people were murdered so you can have a holiday I mean really what kind of person are you? 
  • markemarke 661 Pts   -  
    @21CenturyIconoclast

    Jesus did not say what you falsely claimed He said.
  • just_sayinjust_sayin 1360 Pts   -   edited December 2024
    Actually a lot of pagans call it a Yule tree because nobody would call it a pagan tree that would be really s t u p i d since pagan isn't even a religion. And the fact that you're proud that Christians decimated populations of people based on their religion makes you a pretty sick piece of crap. You're probably the kind of person that sits and laughs when they talk about Native Americans dying from smallpox.
    Nah.  Not proud that Christians decimated populations of people.  Not what I'm saying.  I'm pointing out that Christianity took customs such as December 25th being associated with Saturnalia, and removed all pagan meaning from that date and replaced it with a Christian meaning.  Christians didn't celebrate paganism, they conquered it and reimaged their celebrations and culture.  December 25th is definitely not the birth date of Jesus.  The shepherds were out in the fields with the sheep on the night Jesus was born, that indicates more of a spring or summer time event.  December 25th was a day of celebration, and Christians seized it and made it their own date, leaving pagans unable to compete with Christian tradition.  Think of paganism as a bear, that is killed and its skin is worn by its killer as a sign of it being conquered.  That's a better analogy.

    I told you it was a trigger warning message of truth.  
  • You are probably one of the most proud people of murder I've ever met. Paganism isn't dead there are all kinds of people practicing it. You seem to keep thinking that Christianity wiped everybody out it hasn't there were populations that have kept it going. Actually Christians that kept the traditions going actually have allowed paganism to continue to exist. But like brag about the fact that Christians have been murderers and you sit here and judge everybody for everything they do and say when you're proud of your heritage as a murderer is weird.
  • Imagine posting with a straight face that your anti-abortion and pro-life while being excited about the fact that populations of children were killed by Christians for sport. That is the weirdest thing I've ever heard. I'm not for the murder of the unborn but I'm for the murder of non-Christian children. And you wonder why people hate you.
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  • markemarke 661 Pts   -  
    @polytheistwitch

    These "Christians" you claim "kill children for sport," if they do exist, cannot possibly be Christians God smiles down upon with His blessing.
  • BarnardotBarnardot 763 Pts   -  
    @polytheistwitch ;Are you drunk or high that you don't remember what you post seriously? Try it sober see how that works 

    I remember what I posted alright, and I remember that you posted something about being naked. So, which were you, drunk or high? Or both?

  • FredsnephewFredsnephew 508 Pts   -  
    Argument Topic: Hey Poly

    @polytheistwitch

    So, I'm interested in the mistletoe thing.

    And, Mid Wales is also not conducive to outdoor nakedness this time of year....But it doesn't hurt to dream.

    And for sure, Judeo-Christians would also be aware of the significance of solar, lunar and astral activity and associated seasonal consequences.

    And of course, the need to work old paganism into their new magic men hypotheses.
  • JoesephJoeseph 1483 Pts   -  

    Christmas time  is that special time of the year when people like tounge talking Penticostal like ,   @just_sayin and  Calvanist @marke go to church and congratulate each other on being " model christians ",  they will speak of charity , tolerance and the christian message of offering shelter and food to those in need, this charade lasts once the service is on , once they leave church it's back to business as in detesting those who seek but cannot afford  shelter , food , healthcare ......

    If Mary and Joesph knocked on Just Lying or Markes door seeking assistance they would set the dogs on them and call the police ......



  • markemarke 661 Pts   -  
    @Joeseph

    Allowing undocumented immigrants to traffic drugs and human slaves across the US border while being paid by the US government to live employment-free is not compassion in any stretch of the imagination.
  • JoesephJoeseph 1483 Pts   -  
    @marke

    Allowing undocumented immigrants to traffic drugs and human slaves across the US border while being paid by the US government to live employment-free is not compassion in any stretch of the imagination.

    But I haven't mentioned them , I'm talking about those on low wages in the US you know the ones you and Just Lying  say shouldn't get afforadale health care , subsidised housing and who you both think shouldn't get a decent  living wage for their labours?
  • polytheistwitchpolytheistwitch 263 Pts   -   edited December 2024
    @Fredsnephew. The mistletoe thing goes back to Odin. I work in the Norse pantheon that's what Heathen means. Loki used mistletoe to kill Odin’s son Baldr. If that myth is true and not some Christian B S I feel it would be disrespectful to have mistletoe in my home specially during a season that Odin is heavily associated with. 
    Fredsnephew
  • And let's be clear December 25th goes back to Saturnalia but a lot of the Christmas customs are German. Those are two completely different polytheistic faiths. A ton of Christian mythology is based on the Greek and Roman pagan system. The fact that Christ is a demigod is totally based on Roman mythology and has nothing to do with Judaism. Hysterical that Christians will use the Bible to verify or justify everything they do but when it comes to things like this they basically tell everybody we'll piss off because we took over and we can do whatever we want Even though there's nothing biblical about Christmas. So feel free to go sit in church and lie to each other about how Christmas is all Christian and Christ when you're basically worshiping within the Roman Pantheon of polytheistic beliefs.
  • just_sayinjust_sayin 1360 Pts   -  
    Imagine posting with a straight face that your anti-abortion and pro-life while being excited about the fact that populations of children were killed by Christians for sport. That is the weirdest thing I've ever heard. I'm not for the murder of the unborn but I'm for the murder of non-Christian children. And you wonder why people hate you.
    I think your portrayal is dishonest.  The issue was not ethnicity but ethics.  Christianity redefined pagan worship customs and pointed people toward Christianity.  I'm sure that some Christians behaved badly along the way.  My point was and remains that Christianity did not embrace the beliefs of pagans, it took their religious customs and reformed them and gave them Christian meanings.  

    Now I did not claim that there are not any pagans around today.  I am saying that many of their customs would not be recognized.  For example, if you walked into Walmart and asked for your yule tree, the employee would either tell you they don't have them, or say that if they do, they will be in the Christmas tree selection.  Sure some pagans still exist - possibly on college campuses, maybe in the same section that furries and Jedi LARPers hang out, but just not as popular or as highly thought of.  
  • markemarke 661 Pts   -  
    @Joeseph

    Jesus never made provisions for the state to collect taxes from Christians to redistribute to others the state deemed worthy of the unearned monetary gifts.
  • jackjack 719 Pts   -  

    Christians are HYPOCRITES if they have a Christmas tree


    Hello 21:

    What do you call Jews who have Christmas trees??  Or, God forbid, us atheists who have Christmas trees??  Whaddya call us?

    excon
  • JoesephJoeseph 1483 Pts   -  
    @marke


    Jesus never made provisions for the state to collect taxes from Christians to redistribute to others the state deemed worthy of the unearned monetary gifts


    What part of Christianity do you follow you raging hypocrite?  Here are just a few bible verses you and other Christians like Just Lying totally ignore , maybe Jesus exempted you and Just Lying from following his teachings?





    If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person?

    — 1 John 3:17, NIV

    The generous will themselves be blessed, for they share their food with the poor.

    — Proverbs 22:9, NIV

    “If you do away with the yoke of oppression, with the pointing finger and malicious talk, and if you spend yourselves on behalf of the hungry and satisfy the needs of the oppressed, then your light will rise in the darkness, and your night will become like the noonday.”

    — Isaiah 58:9b-10, NIV

    “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’  He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’”

    — Matthew 25:44-45, NIV

    Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

    — James 1:27, NIV

    Those who give to the poor will lack nothing, but those who close their eyes to them receive many curses.

    — Proverbs 28:27, NIV

    Whoever oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God.

    — Proverbs 14:31, NIV

    Whoever shuts their ears to the cry of the poor will also cry out and not be answered.

    — Proverbs 21:13, NIV

    The righteous care about justice for the poor, but the wicked have no such concern.

    — Proverbs 29:7, NIV

    Speak up and judge fairly; defend the rights of the poor and needy.

    — Proverbs 31:9, NIV

    Whoever despises his neighbor is a sinner, but blessed is he who is generous to the poor.

    — Proverbs 14:21, ESV

    In Joppa there was a disciple named Tabitha (in Greek her name is Dorcas); she was always doing good and helping the poor.

    — Acts 9:36, NIV

    All they asked was that we should continue to remember the poor, the very thing I had been eager to do all along.

    — Galatians 2:10, NIV

    “If any of your fellow Israelites become poor and are unable to support themselves among you, help them as you would a foreigner and stranger, so they can continue to live among you.”

    — Leviticus 25:35, NIV

    Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life.

    — 1 Timothy 6:17-19, NIV

    If anyone is poor among your fellow Israelites in any of the towns of the land the LORD your God is giving you, do not be hardhearted or tightfisted toward them.

    — Deuteronomy 15:7, NIV

    “For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in.”

    — Matthew 25:35, NIV

    “When you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not reap your field right up to its edge, neither shall you gather the gleanings after your harvest. And you shall not strip your vineyard bare, neither shall you gather the fallen grapes of your vineyard. You shall leave them for the poor and for the sojourner: I am the LORD your God.”

    — Leviticus 19:9-10, NIV

    Blessed are those who have regard for the weak; the LORD delivers them in times of trouble.

    — Psalm 41:1, NIV

    Learn to do good; seek justice, correct oppression; bring justice to the fatherless, plead the widow’s cause.

    — Isaiah 1:17, ESV

    And the word of the Lord came again to Zechariah: This is what the Lord Almighty said: “Administer true justice; show mercy and compassion to one another. Do not oppress the widow or the fatherless, the foreigner or the poor. Do not plot evil against each other.”

    — Zechariah 7:8-10
  • markemarke 661 Pts   -  
    @Joeseph
    If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person?

    Biblical statements are not to be wrongfully interpreted.  For example, such an interpretation as yours condemns every democrat Christian in the US for not selling off their possessions to send the money to poor Haitians.  Why do democrat Christians not empty their fat bank accounts to give away all their wealth to those less fortunate than themselves?  Because even democrat Christians know God is not intending the Biblical teaching to be twisted into erroneous wild interpretations and applications.
  • just_sayinjust_sayin 1360 Pts   -  
    @polytheistwitch
    A ton of Christian mythology is based on the Greek and Roman pagan system. The fact that Christ is a demigod is totally based on Roman mythology and has nothing to do with Judaism. 

    Sigh.  The Jewish people of Jesus' day would argue about the smallest issue of the law, even down to tithing spice.  They kept a kosher diet.  They would not eat with Gentiles for concern of adopting their religious practices.  They would not eat meat that had been offered to idols.  They would engage in ritualistic cleansing if they touched anything unclean.  It is the apex of ignorance of Jewish beliefs and traditions to think they would embrace or copy other religious beliefs in any way.  They were distinctly monotheistic in that culture.  
  • just_sayinjust_sayin 1360 Pts   -  
    @Joeseph

    It seems evident to me that you missed the obvious in all of the Bible verses you cite.  They are all about personal responsibility in helping those in need, not delegating that responsibility to the government as a substitute for personal service.  Your verses prove @marke right.  
  • JoesephJoeseph 1483 Pts   -  
    @marke


    Biblical statements are not to be wrongfully interpreted

    Right , so what's your interpretation of this .....If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person?

    — 1 John 3:17, NIV



    . For example, such an interpretation as yours condemns every democrat Christian in the US for not selling off their possessions to send the money to poor Haitians

    And every Republican unless you were the only one who sold of his property , well did you?


    . Why do democrat Christians not empty their fat bank accounts to give away all their wealth to those less fortunate than themselves?

    Because they claim to follow Jesus like you and just lying but totally ignore what he said,


     Because even democrat Christians know God is not intending the Biblical teaching to be twisted into erroneous wild interpretations and applications.


    So tell me how I'm twisting .....If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person?

    — 1 John 3:17, NIV


    ZING 
  • JoesephJoeseph 1483 Pts   -  
    @just_sayin

    ARGUMENT TOPIC : It's truly remarkable that I'm being attacked by you and Marke for praising Jesus for his charitable outlook on the poor of course he exempted American Republicans from his radical ways .....right?


    It seems evident to me that you missed the obvious in all of the Bible verses you cite

    OK tell me what I missed here ........ Also   " render onto Caeser what is his " is a reference to paying your taxes which one would presume a so called christian governent would include provisio n for the poor.

    If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person?

    — 1 John 3:17, NIV


    They are all about personal responsibility in helping those in need, not delegating that responsibility to the government as a substitute for personal service.

    So tell me how me how you and Marke follow the teachings of Jesus , you both resist minimun wage , affordable healthcare / education , subsidised housing etc , etc as you both believe the poor are unworthy of a living  wage, right?

    If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person?

    — 1 John 3:17, NIV

  • @jack

    YOUR QUOTE OF SUBSTANCE: "What do you call Jews who have Christmas trees??  Or, God forbid, us atheists who have Christmas trees??  Whaddya call us?"

    Well, it seems that any TRUE JEW to his faith wouldn't be caught dead in celebrating Christmas that represents Jesus that they don't accept, because in essence, Christians stole their god Yahweh from the Jews and made him into Jesus, where if you think about it logically, the Jews according to pseudo-christians, don't have a god anymore!  Besides, the Jews have their primitive celebration of Hanukkah to contend with.

    For Atheists, that easily outright own pseudo-christians and their Christianity as blatantly shown within this Religion Forum, they do it through "Tradition" of exchanging gifts, and especially for their children, and where would Santa Clause be if there was no Heathen Christmas celebration?!


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  • 21CenturyIconoclast21CenturyIconoclast 580 Pts   -   edited December 2024
    @just_sayin


    Just_LYING,
     who wants Rickeys notoriety is being the number one BIBLE FOOL!

    What happened? I answered your post to me, whereas, you couldn't find another deceiving Apologetic Book to use to at least "try" and answer my post in return where I made you the pseudo-christian fool again? Whereas, you have been RUNNING AWAY from said post shown in the link below since I posted it it to you!  SCARED AGAIN? Huh?
    https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/199439/#Comment_199439


    Just_LYING,
    I haven't even started to easily Bible Slap you Silly®️ in my threads topic, therefore put down your talking in tongues, handling snakes, and the other comical situations of your Pentecostal faith, and address the post in the link above.


    Oh, I have been meaning to ask you if this following woman in the video below in the link, is your wife or girlfriend in being a Pentecostal like you are, where she is speaking in tongues? What a wonderful faith to belong to in your case, that easily makes you look mentally deranged!!!  LOL!

    https://www.tiktok.com/@ltpptv/video/7211876807711247662   ..... (click sound icon to "on")







    .


  • JoesephJoeseph 1483 Pts   -   edited December 2024
    @21CenturyIconoclast


    Oh, I have been meaning to ask you if this following woman in the video below is your wife or girlfriend in being a Pentecostal like you are, where she is speaking on tongues?

    Just Lying is a Penticostal virgin obsessed with male d-ck sizes , Jesus would hate him





  • 21CenturyIconoclast21CenturyIconoclast 580 Pts   -   edited December 2024
    @Joeseph


    JOESEPH; YOUR REVEALING QUOTE WHERE "JUST_LYING" WILL BE GOING TO HELL UPON HIS DEMISE!
    :
     "Just Lying is a Penticostal virgin obsessed with male d-ck sizes , Jesus would hate him."

    Jesus will not only hate him, but he will be sending this deranged Pentecostal "Just_LYING" to hell upon his earthly demise, praise Jesus' revenge upon the sexually immoral!

    "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-10)


    Here is an image of the deranged "speaking in tongues" Pentecostal "Just-LYING" subsequent to Jesus springing open the trap door to Hell at the Pearly Gates in his behalf for being sexually immoral!






    .

    Joeseph
  • JoesephJoeseph 1483 Pts   -  
    @21CenturyIconoclast

    Here is an image of the deranged "speaking in tongues" Pentecostal "Just-LYING" subsequent to Jesus springing open the trap door to Hell at the Pearly Gates in his behalf for being sexually immoral!


    Divine justice wouldn't you say ?....." as he sows so shall he reap " .......
  • markemarke 661 Pts   -  
    @21CenturyIconoclast
    Here is an image of the deranged "speaking in tongues" Pentecostal "Just-LYING" subsequent to Jesus springing open the trap door to Hell at the Pearly Gates in his behalf for being sexually immoral!

    The wicked have strange imaginations.

    Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
  • BarnardotBarnardot 763 Pts   -  
    @polytheistwitch ;If that myth is true and not some Christian I feel it would be disrespectful to have mistletoe in my home specially during a season that Odin is heavily associated with. 
    Yeah, especially if you are in the habit of getting naked under the mistletoe :)
  • JoesephJoeseph 1483 Pts   -  
    @marke

    ARGUMENT TOPIC : Just Lying and Marke run a mile from my question........So tell me how me how you follow the teachings of Jesus , you resist minimun wage , affordable healthcare / education , subsidised housing etc , etc as you both believe the poor are unworthy of a living wage, right?

    If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person?

    — 1 John 3:17, NIV

  • markemarke 661 Pts   -  
    @Joeseph
    ..So tell me how me how you follow the teachings of Jesus , you resist minimun wage , affordable healthcare / education , subsidised housing etc , etc as you both believe the poor are unworthy of a living wage, right?

    Jesus does not explain how Christians can move their government to pay the expensive needs of the poor if the government does not have enough money to cover those costs.  I suspect that not many officials in the US government want any advice about spending from Christian conservatives.

  • JoesephJoeseph 1483 Pts   -  
    @marke

    Jesus does not explain how Christians can move their government to pay the expensive needs of the poor if the government does not have enough money to cover those costs

    Well actually he does Jesus mentioned the rich selling their wealth and giving to the poor , did you ever read a bible you imbecile?

    You previously said that Trump and his government were christians right?   It seems they are like you as in they totally ignore the teachings of christ.


    . I suspect that not many officials in the US government want any advice about spending from Christian conservatives.

    Yet you claim your government is a christian one , you're all the same mealy mouthed hypocrites who detest the poor , don't forget to pretend to care about the poor and homeless this Christmas and pat each other on the back for being followers of christ , if Jesus and Mary knocked on your door looking for shelter you would turn the dogs on them.
  • markemarke 661 Pts   -  
    @Joeseph

    Well actually he does Jesus mentioned the rich selling their wealth and giving to the poor , did you ever read a bible you imbecile?

    How much of your wealth and assets do you think Jesus is telling you to liquidate and give to the poor, or do you think Jesus was only asking Christians to sell everything and give all their assets to the poor?  If so, why would God not also want the unregenerate to do the same thing?
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