Pseudo-christian men can strip NAKED for Jesus too!

Barnardot

@21CenturyIconoclast Well, all religions are nutty in various ways. It's the nature of the beast. If you're going to make up a system of beliefs to fit in with problems arising from your bed-wetting issues, it is bound to involve doing weird things.
Those hyped-up religions where people blather away in tongues and dance around are quite creepy to say the least. And taking your clothes off is a bit weird. But, if that's there cup of tea then let them do it in the privacy of their own buildings with funny pointed roofs.

But then there are religions that are extreme and anti-social and are very dangerous. There is one for example that goes around deliberately vandalising pubic property and those are the ones we have to be vigilant about. They should really be banned and all the members put on a national register of known violent vandals just like we have a register of fire bugs and a register for pedo philes. 

marke

@21CenturyIconoclast
here is a video of Pentecostals dancing around because the spirit of Jesus as god has entered their souls too! 

God sets the standard for righteous behavior, not men.

Joeseph

@21CenturyIconoclast

Penticostals got to be the nuttiest of the lot ,I'd pay to see Just Lying talk in tounges and then give an exhibition of his dancing prowresome ss as the spirt  ( ahem) enters him ......Marke/ Rickey would just be bellowing at the congregation that they are all Hell bound and Jesus lied and  didn't mean it when he said feed the poor  ......Bogend would scan the congregation for blacks and when he spotted a few would pull on his pillowcase white hood and try and enlist  membersc of the congregation for a lynch mob ......

marke

@Joeseph
..Bogend would scan the congregation for blacks 

If you are looking for blacks in church you should Google "Hillary speaks from historic church pulpit."

Joeseph

@marke

I don't go to church it's strange you think I would.

BTW I detest Hillary.

marke

@Joeseph
I don't go to church it's strange you think I would.

If you don't go to church you may never see a democrat like Hillary campaigning for black votes from the pulpit.

BTW I detest Hillary.
Lots of Americans do disrespect Hillary and for good reasons.

polytheistwitch

I think you mean Jews strip naked because the Old Testament has no Christians in it.

Fredsnephew

Argument Topic: Hey Poly

@polytheistwitch

Don't you think it kind of strange that humans are the only creatures embarrassed by the sight of their own bodies.

Now, what idiots spread that rumour?

polytheistwitch

@Fredsnephew Well honestly some of covering up is because our bare skin would be burnt or we would be so cold we'd freeze to death.For women it's a safety thing if we walked around naked we be raped. I mean when they can't even walk around clothed and avoid it.

marke

@polytheistwitch

There are tribes of savages in the world that walk around naked as if that is nothing to be ashamed of.  There are Americans who also see nothing wrong with public displays of nudity.  Rumor has it that Joe Biden did not just shower naked with his growing daughter but that Joe and Dr. Jill also enjoyed swimming naked in front of secret service agents in their uncivilized home environment.

21CenturyIconoclast

@polytheistwitch



POLYWANTACRACKER; ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR BIBLE INEPT QUOTES:  "I think you mean Jews strip naked because the Old Testament has no Christians in it."


1. CHRISTIAN DEFINITION: one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ

2. THERE IS ONE GOD:  “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.” (1 Timothy 2:5) 

3. SINCE THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD:  Then Jesus is the Jewish God in the Old Testament as well as the Jewish god in the New Testament! 

4. PROOF THAT JESUS IS THE OLD TESTAMENT GOD: Jesus said: "Do not think that I will accuse you before the Father. Your accuser is Moses, in whom you have put your hope. If you had believed Moses, you would have believed me, because he wrote about me. But since you do not believe what he wrote, how will you believe what I say?”  (John 5:45-47)

 5. THEREFORE THERE WERE "CHRISTIANS" IN THE OLD TESTAMENT WORSHIPING JESUS AS GOD!



You're excused for now.



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Fredsnephew

Argument Topic: For sure.

polytheistwitch said:

@Fredsnephew Well honestly some of covering up is because our bare skin would be burnt or we would be so cold we'd freeze to death.For women it's a safety thing if we walked around naked we be raped. I mean when I can't even walk around clothed and avoid it.

@polytheistwitch

As society developed we devised practical solutions to perceived problems.

And ashamedness and embarrassment came along for the ride.

Civilisation as it were.

marke

@Fredsnephew

As society developed we devised practical solutions to perceived problems.

And ashamedness and embarrassment came along for the ride.

Civilisation as it were.

Hedonists reject God and Christian values.  They believe nothing is wrong unless they view it as wrong and all things are right if they want to believe those things are right.  That is why hedonists are found promoting sex between men and boys, promoting opening little girls' shower rooms to grown men who want to watch, promoting free sex and promiscuity, supporting looting and lying, committing voter fraud, and more.

Fredsnephew

Argument Topic: Hey marke.

@marke

That's the trouble.

Sexual repression which is how the majority of people are taught, is counter-intuitive and leads to bodily and sexual angst.

Far better to have a laissez-faire approach to the body and sexuality.

When it comes to social ills, I think that Christians et al, have a lot to answer for.

marke

@Fredsnephew
I don't care what politicians like Obama, Kevin Jennings and their ilk think, I will oppose sexual perversions like legalizing sex between men and boys because it is wrong, ungodly, and uncivilized.

Fredsnephew

Argument Topic: Hey marke

marke said:

@Fredsnephew
I don't care what politicians like Obama, Kevin Jennings and their ilk think, I will oppose sexual perversions like legalizing sex between men and boys because it is wrong, ungodly, and uncivilized.

@marke

Exemplifies my point perfectly.

Sexual repression causing sexual angst doesn't stop sexual expression.

Never has done, never will do.

marke

@Fredsnephew

You can either support sexual perversion and depravity or not.

Fredsnephew

Argument Topic: Well marke.

marke said:

@Fredsnephew

You can either support sexual perversion and depravity or not.

@marke

That's a matter for personal consideration and interpretation.

Though certain things are deemed unacceptable under the law.

And I abide by the law.

In fact I'm a pretty conventional heterosexual monogamist.

Nonetheless I support the rights of others to express themselves as they so choose.

And of course, as far as I am concerned, neither a GOD nor a religion comes into the equation.

marke

@Fredsnephew

This is the type of perversion supported and supported by democrats like Obama's hand-picked flaming homosexual cabinet member Kevin Jennings:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association

Fredsnephew

Argument Topic: Hey marke.

marke said:

@Fredsnephew

This is the type of perversion supported and supported by democrats like Obama's hand-picked flaming homosexual cabinet member Kevin Jennings:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association

@marke

Yep, homosexuality has been around and enjoyed for thousands of years.

Yet, such is how you have been conditioned to consider and interpret homosexuality.

marke

@Fredsnephew
Yep, homosexuality has been around and enjoyed for thousands of years.

Laws against sex crimes are just and should be enforced, not negated.

Fredsnephew

Argument Topic: Hey.

marke said:

@Fredsnephew
Yep, homosexuality has been around and enjoyed for thousands of years.

Laws against sex crimes are just and should be enforced, not negated.

@marke

In your opinion.

But there are millions of other opinions.

And to enforce one opinion is to dictate.

marke

@Fredsnephew
And to enforce one opinion is to dictate.

I am for enforcing laws against criminal sexual perversions.

Fredsnephew

Argument Topic: Hey marke.

marke said:

@Fredsnephew
And to enforce one opinion is to dictate.

I am for enforcing laws against criminal sexual perversions.

@marke

Crime is a social concept....There are many global alternatives

Sexual need is inbuilt...A species inevitability.

And perversion is your conclusion...There are billions of alternatives.

And dictating in this context, is one person who thinks that they somehow have the right to make decisions for others.

marke

@Fredsnephew

Sex perverts need to go to jail for molesting, raping, or sexually abusing children.  You don't need fifty religions telling you that.

Factfinder

@marke

Sex perverts need to go to jail for molesting, raping, or sexually abusing children.  You don't need fifty religions telling you that.

Agreed. As with religious perverts who rape children's minds and render them useless because of their own irrational fears and beliefs. No different than the woke agenda where the principal of psychological abuse is concerned.

marke

@Factfinder

Let me give you some examples of wicked brainwashing of children:

Infidels need to be beheaded for Allah.  Cops are racists and need to be hated and resisted.

Whites are hateful and racist and do not deserve love or respect. 

 Trump is evil and needs to be taken down one way or another.

Christians are and backward.

There is no such a thing as a moral standard.

Sex is not wrong if it feels good and both sides are consenting to engaging in its pleasures.

polytheistwitch

@marke Police officers are constantly violating people's rights that's why people are upset with them and that's a legitimate concern. People are responsible for enforcing laws and incarcerating people. Some whites are racist and there's no reason we can't talk about that. Yes two adults engaging in consensual sexual contact is and should be legal and encouraged.

Factfinder

marke said:

@Factfinder

Let me give you some examples of wicked brainwashing of children:

Infidels need to be beheaded for Allah.  Cops are racists and need to be hated and resisted.

Whites are hateful and racist and do not deserve love or respect. 

 Trump is evil and needs to be taken down one way or another.

Christians are and backward.

There is no such a thing as a moral standard.

Sex is not wrong if it feels good and both sides are consenting to engaging in its pleasures.

How are you any different than them? You admitted beating and brainwashing your children and teaching them so called "truths" from fairytale elf book writings on how infidels should be stoned to death as "abominations" for having sex with unapproved partners or eating shellfish. You scare them into submission with fictious tales of hell if they don't accept the silly notion it's their fault god created them as what they are.

marke

@Factfinder

Slapping children on the hand and beating them with whips are not the same thing.

Factfinder

@marke

Slapping children on the hand and beating them with whips are not the same thing.

Who said they were? That's all you do? Sure? You don't follow what your bible tells you how to administer discipline correctly to a child? You hate your children? Clearly an instrument of some kind is what your elf god wants you to use if you're to chastise them proper, you are defying your elf god on this front too...

Proverbs 13:24King James Version

24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

Fredsnephew

Argument Topic: Well, yes.

marke said:

@Fredsnephew

Sex perverts need to go to jail for molesting, raping, or sexually abusing children.  You don't need fifty religions telling you that.

@marke

You're now making a specific point, relative to a widely conceived legal precept. Whereas previously you have been pontificating generally about the sexuality and sexual practices of legally consenting humans.

marke

@Fredsnephew

It does not matter how many perverts or US presidents support man/boy sex it is still wicked.

Fredsnephew

Argument Topic: Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

marke said:

@Fredsnephew

It does not matter how many perverts or US presidents support man/boy sex it is still wicked.

@marke

Your above statement lacks specific definition.


Sex, as in the release of endocrinal stresses, is perfectly normal, and how we achieve this is the concern of the individual or individuals.

Nonetheless to a degree, (especially in respect of what is regarded as consensual age) this is regulated by social law.

Though social law, is regularly ignored.


Man/boy?

Presidents?

Perverts?

marke

@Fredsnephew

Man/boy?

Presidents?

Perverts?

Obama appointee lauded NAMBLA figure | Washington Examiner  10-1-09

POLITICS

Obama appointee lauded NAMBLA figure

by Mark Tapscott, Executive Editor

 October 01, 2009 12:00 AM

Kevin Jennings, President Obama's Assistant Deputy Secretary of the Office of Safe and Drug FreeSchools at the U.S. Department of Education, is in hot water this week for having failed to report that a 15-year-old sophomore student in his school had told him of having sex with an older man.

But failure to report what appeared to be a case of statuatory rape of a child may be the least of Jennings' worries. Lori Roman of Regular Folks United points to statements by Jennings a decade or more ago when he praised Harry Hay of the North American Association for Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA), which promotes the legalization of sexual abuse of young boys by older men.

Fredsnephew

Argument Topic: For sure.

@marke

Even if safeguards are in place, they will inevitably be ignored.

And all men and boys being basically equal, means there is no real distinction to be made between a respected public figure and Joe Soap in regard to sexual desires and wants.

The Roman Catholic Church was for years riddled with such characters.

And no doubt such people exist in all corners of society.

Stephen

@21CenturyIconoclast
I always wondered why it was a naked youth seen fleeing from a house that he had been sharing with Jesus for the night?

marke

@Fredsnephew

Many priests who became perverts in the church were made perverts by pervert priests before them and that is why they seduce young boys and make perverts out of them also. 

Factfinder

@marke

Many priests who became perverts in the church were made perverts by pervert priests before them and that is why they seduce young boys and make perverts out of them also. 

Like the naked guy with Jesus who ran away when they arrested Jesus?

marke

@Factfinder
Like the naked guy with Jesus who ran away when they arrested Jesus?

There were several followers with Jesus when He was arrested.  One of them was only clad in a linen garment.  If you read more into that you are exposing your wicked imagination likely fed by thoughts from Satan.

Mark 14:50-52King James Version

50 And they all forsook him, and fled.

51 And there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold on him:

52 And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked.

Factfinder

@marke

Tere were several followers with Jesus when He was arrested.  One of them was only clad in a linen garment.  If you read more into that you are exposing your wicked imagination likely fed by thoughts from Satan.

Tere??? And only one was naked. What are you reading into that and projecting onto me? I asked a simple question and you still avoid to answer cause you can't explain nothing, you simply blindly believe what you're told and in a fictious hell you desperately, irrationally fear.

Fredsnephew

Argument Topic: Hey marke.

@marke

The guy Jesus was more than likely gay.

And I don't think that age was so important back then.

marke

@Factfinder

The followers of Jesus were not naked and Jesus was not having sex with a naked man in the garden that night.  That false accusation is wicked and blasphemous.

Factfinder

@marke

The followers of Jesus were not naked and Jesus was not having sex with a naked man in the garden that night.  That false accusation is wicked and blasphemous.

Mindless strawman. Why do you run from facts and make grammar school remarks? Oh yeah you believe your elf book on one thing only, 'be dumb and follow me' to paraphrase your fictious sky god daddy fairytale elf god you want to bow in front of forever. It's impossible to blaspheme that which doesn't exist and at the same time there is no reason to believe it does. 

You brought up Jesus having sex with a boy, not me. Stop running from my question or 21Century will take another snap shot of you.

YOU Said, "Many priests who became perverts in the church were made perverts by pervert priests before them and that is why they seduce young boys and make perverts out of them also." 

I then asked: "Like the naked guy with Jesus who ran away when they arrested Jesus?"

Why not answer the question directly? What are you projecting and why. Your elf book said the young man followed Jesus wearing only a sheet when the authorities arrested him. Considering YOUR statement about perverted priest I asked a simple bible question of which you ignored and called me names while insinuating I said something I didn't. Why do you focus on things not being discussed when you're too ignorant to answer a question? My question referred to Mark 14 and the naked young man who ran. I asked because many disciples were with him according to the text, you spoke of perversion in the priesthood so I asked a reasonable question. Is that scripture where the perversion in the priesthood originated?  I mean come on. Back when you were a dirty cop in Houston, if you entered a hotel room with ten dudes in it and one woman dressed in only a towel, and upon your arrival she discards the towel and runs out the door past you completely naked, what would be your first thought of what was going on? That's all I was asking? How did perversion start in Christianity? It is a legitimate question given the evidence...

Mark 14:

51 And there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold on him:

52 And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked.

marke

@Factfinder
"Like the naked guy with Jesus who ran away when they arrested Jesus?"

The wicked mob of leftist barbarians stripped the man of his clothes after they arrested Jesus.

Factfinder

@marke

The wicked mob of leftist barbarians stripped the man of his clothes after they arrested Jesus.

The bible says nothing specific about the mob being "leftist" but does state priests were leading it. So if anything it would make it the religious right who made up the evil mob. Just like in America today. And I'm even a true conservative saying this, not one of the nutty pseudo conservatives that make up the far right religious zealot types for evil. Your god hates fabricators like you, I taught you that and here you are lying again cause you've been thoroughly refuted again. Scripture says he was naked, no clothes, only a sheet that fell away from him when they grabbed him and he ran. If he had clothes to "strip" off  of him he wouldn't gotten away, dummy. Does it bother you I know your elf book better than you?

Stop trying to prove the non existent and just rely on your gullible faith like your elf book commands so you don't have to discredit your faith and lie for it; looking like the fool that you are.

Mark 14:

51 And there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold on him:

52 And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked.

Proverbs 6:

16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

marke

@Factfinder
Scripture says he was naked, no clothes, only a sheet that fell away from him when they grabbed him and he ran.

The ungodly religious mob stripped the man of his sheet, leaving him naked.  There is nothing in the narrative that suggests the man was naked before the perverted priests and leftists laid hold on him and stripped him naked when they came to arrest Jesus for telling the truth.

Factfinder

marke said:

@Factfinder
Scripture says he was naked, no clothes, only a sheet that fell away from him when they grabbed him and he ran.

The ungodly religious mob stripped the man of his sheet, leaving him naked.  There is nothing in the narrative that suggests the man was naked before the perverted priests and leftists laid hold on him and stripped him naked when they came to arrest Jesus for telling the truth.

Geez, when this Jesus makes a fibber out of you it really takes eh? 

So a naked woman with only a towel wrapped around her in a hotel room with 10 dudes and you think it's totally innocent without a thought? Wow! You really obeyed and destroyed your brain the way your elf book commands. If you want proof, look in the mirror and think solely about your elf god belief as long as you can thinking only the fact you believe in fairytales and are a grown man afraid of heel seeking a security blanket. Decades of shame and disappointment, hoping no body finds out what you did as a dirty cop in Houston.

Fredsnephew

Argument Topic: Hmmmmmm.

marke said:

@Factfinder
"Like the naked guy with Jesus who ran away when they arrested Jesus?"

The wicked mob of leftist barbarians stripped the man of his clothes after they arrested Jesus.

@marke

Who was left and who was right marke?

You seem to be conflating your own personal views on 21st century politics, with your own speculation on 1st century biblical narratives.

marke

@Factfinder
So a naked woman with only a towel wrapped around her in a hotel room with 10 dudes and you think it's totally innocent without a thought?

There was no naked woman in a motel room and there was no nudity in a gathering of the Lord's disciples until the band of savages tore off the one man's clothes after Jesus had already been taken hostage.