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How is the Gentile "grafted" into Israel? Romans 11

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How is the Gentile "grafted" into Israel and what is the relevance of this "grafting?" (Romans 11)

The Christian's "grafting" concerning Israel is relevant initially and primarily due to the promises Elohim made to Israel through Abraham (a Gentile); that is, through Abraham would come One who would be a blessing to every family of the Earth (Genesis 12:3); both Jew (Israelite) and Gentile.

The blessings promised Israel through Moses' inspired writings (Torah) were, in large part, contingent upon National obedience (Deuteronomy 28); unfortunately, Israel failed Elohim; Israel conspired to murder their Messiah upon a tree and rejected the New Covenant, the Gospel, the Great Commission thus blaspheming the Holy Spirit and insulting the Father; therefore, Israel has fallen under divine judgment (Romans 11:25); consequently, only a mere "remnant" of Israel's children will escape destruction in Hell due their rejection of Messiah (then and now) and their ancestors insistence that Messiah's blood be upon them and their children (Isaiah 10:22; Romans 9:27; Matthew 27:27).

The promises and covenants relevant to Israel and the "grafting" of the Gentile into those promises and covenants are ALL fulfilled in Jesus and their divine fulfillment is realized in the life of a Christian ONLY by faith in Jesus as Messiah and the daily work of sanctification via the indwelling Holy Spirit as promised in the New Covenant spoken of by both Jeremiah and Ezekiel; therefore, the only true "grafting" has manifest through the Messiah and the promises made to Israel have been realized through faith via the Gospel; this, having little to do with one's identification with Israel but ONLY through the Messiah who emanated through Israel's child, Judah. I am NOT saved from Hell by Israel or his children, I am saved and grafted into the promises of Elohim through faith in Messiah Jesus who chose to enter Time through Israel's offspring...this is my "grafting" as a Christian.





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  • TemplarTemplar 140 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    As Christians (assuming you aren't a heretic), we are the fulfillment of Israel. The Gentiles are now God's chosen people, along with the Jews.


    κύριε τίς ἐπίστευσεν τῇ ἀκοῇ ἡμῶν καὶ ὁ βραχίων κυρίου τίνι ἀπεκαλύφθη
    ἀνηγγείλαμεν ἐναντίον αὐτοῦ ὡς παιδίον ὡς ῥίζα ἐν γῇ διψώσῃ οὐκ ἔστιν εἶδος αὐτῷ οὐδὲ δόξα καὶ εἴδομεν αὐτόν καὶ οὐκ εἶχεν εἶδος οὐδὲ κάλλοςἀλλὰ τὸ εἶδος αὐτοῦ ἄτιμον ἐκλεῖπον παρὰ πάντας ἀνθρώπους ἄνθρωπος ἐν πληγῇ ὢν καὶ εἰδὼς φέρειν μαλακίαν ὅτι ἀπέστραπται τὸ πρόσωπον αὐτοῦ ἠτιμάσθη καὶ οὐκ ἐλογίσθοὗτος τὰς ἁμαρτίας ἡμῶν φέρει καὶ περὶ ἡμῶν ὀδυνᾶται καὶ ἡμεῖς ἐλογισάμεθα αὐτὸν εἶναι ἐν πόνῳ καὶ ἐν πληγῇ καὶ ἐν κακώσειαὐτὸς δὲ ἐτραυματίσθη διὰ τὰς ἀνομίας ἡμῶν καὶ μεμαλάκισται διὰ τὰς ἁμαρτίας ἡμῶν παιδεία εἰρήνης ἡμῶν ἐπ᾽ αὐτόν τῷ μώλωπι αὐτοῦ ἡμεῖς ἰάθημεν
    πάντες ὡς πρόβατα ἐπλανήθημεν ἄνθρωπος τῇ ὁδῷ αὐτοῦ ἐπλανήθη καὶ κύριος παρέδωκεν αὐτὸν ταῖς ἁμαρτίαις ἡμῶν
  • 21CenturyIconoclast21CenturyIconoclast 687 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw



    Rickey,
    why are you back again to show the membership and Jesus as god (Hebrews 4:13), that you remain the complete Bible Dunce ..... WHY?!


    YOUR DUMBFOUNDED QUOTE ONCE AGAIN
    !!!:
     "The promises and covenants relevant to Israel and the "grafting" of the Gentile into those promises and covenants are ALL fulfilled in Jesus and their divine fulfillment is realized in the life of a Christian ONLY by faith in Jesus as Messiah"

    WRONG BIBLE DOLT!

    What part of the following passages inspired by Jesus as God don't you comprehend?!

    1. JESUS SAID HE ONLY CAME FOR THE JEWS: "But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” (Matthew 15:24)

    2. JESUS AS THE JEW GOD ONLY CHOSE THE JEWS: "You only have I chosen of all the families of the earth [Hebrews]; therefore I will punish you for all your sins.” (Amos 3:2)

    3. JESUS SAID DO NOT GET NEAR THE GENTILES:  "These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: “Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans.  Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.  As you go, proclaim this message: ‘The kingdom of heaven has come near.’ Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give." (Matthew 10:4-8)


    Rickey, you have to be a JEW to be a pseudo-christian like YOU, therefore, do you want to call your brutal serial killer Jesus as god a in the passages above?!  Yes or no?!


    Remember BIBLE DUNCE RICKEY, Jesus as god does not change his mind relative to the passages above:

    "God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it?" (Numbers 23:19)


    RickeyHoltslcaw, why do you continue to frequent this Religion Forum in making yourself the outright BIBLE FOOL all the time? Is it a "fetish" of yours to be totally BIBLE DUMB?







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  • markemarke 775 Pts   -  
    @21CenturyIconoclast

    Marke:  Jesus came unto His own and His own received Him not.  In total accordance with God's plan, the prophets of God were then directed by God to go to the Gentiles to call out elect people from all nations to form the bride of Christ, the Christian church.

     Acts 13:46

    Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.

  • 21CenturyIconoclast21CenturyIconoclast 687 Pts   -   edited May 16
    @marke



    MARKE; YOUR UNGODLY QUOTES IN FRONT OF THE MEMBERSHIP AND JESUS (HEBREWS 4:13) WHERE YOU SAY THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A JEW TO BE A PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN:  
    https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/207501/#Comment_207501

    "Jesus came unto His own and His own received Him not.  In total accordance with God's plan, the prophets of God were then directed by God to go to the Gentiles to call out elect people from all nations to form the bride of Christ, the Christian church. Acts 13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles."



    MY QUOTES WHERE I HAVE SHOWN THAT JESUS AS GOD SAYS YOU HAVE TO BE A JEW TO BE A PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN:

    https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/207312/#Comment_207312


    1. JESUS SAID HE ONLY CAME FOR THE JEWS: "But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” (Matthew 15:24)

    2. JESUS AS THE JEW GOD ONLY CHOSE THE JEWS: "You only have I chosen of all the families of the earth [Hebrews]; therefore I will punish you for all your sins.” (Amos 3:2)

    3. JESUS SAID DO NOT GET NEAR THE GENTILES:  "These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: “Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans.  Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.  As you go, proclaim this message: ‘The kingdom of heaven has come near.’ Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give." (Matthew 10:4-8)


    Marke, remember that Jesus as god does not change his mind relative to the passages above!!!:

    "God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it?" (Numbers 23:19)


    Therefore, the Atheists want to thank you again in explicitly showing that the barbaric Bronze and Iron Age thinking bible CONTRADICTS ITSELF!!!

    Where there are "contradictions" there are "LIES," because both "contradicting notions" cannot be true at the same time, therefore for bible inept pseudo-christians like YOU to build your faith upon "LIES," IS INSANITY THAT SHOWS CHRISTIANITY IS AGAIN A MYTH!!!



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  • 21CenturyIconoclast21CenturyIconoclast 687 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw


    RickeyHoltsclaw, this Religion Forum's number one BIBLE FOOL, bar none!


    "Olly Olly Oxen Free, come out wherever you are!" Your HIDE and SEEK game is over!


    Rickey,
    its been 16 DAYS and you have yet to address my post in your thread, shown in the link below!:
    https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/207312/#Comment_207312

    What gives, are you that afraid of biblical facts where you have to run away from them all the time?  Is that it BIBLE DUNCE?


    STILL WAITING!




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