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Pick one: Jesus was a lunatic, liar, or Loving Lord.
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  • pocopoco 93 Pts
    Jesus was probably the biggest revolutionary of all time.  He poked holes in all contemporary structures during that time ..... in a way that transcends time.  Some may have considered Him a lunatic for not seemingly to care who or what He rubbed the wrong way.  That's why it's called the New Covenant.  A complete change from the past accepted norm.  Even Jesus' Apostles thought at times He was going overboard. 

    We now know Jesus' intentions, & His purpose wasn't to necessarily make friends, but to straighten out what the religious & political people were doing wrong ..... with an obvious intention of telling the people & readers of the NT that earthly rewards are not what's important.  The spiritual side of ourselves was what we should be concerned with. 

    I really do not know why anyone would call Jesus a liar tho. 
  • Jesus was obviously a loving Lord.  He gave himself up freely to be a sacrifice for all of man to be the bounty paid so that all of many kinds could receive forgiveness of their transgressions.   In John 6 after he fed the 5000 and they were following him around wanting more substance, he identified himself as the son of God who had come with the bread of life. They mocked him and refused to believe him, Christ told them if they had studied the prophets of old they would recognize who he was.  But they did not study the profits and in fact, the Jews killed all of the old prophets because they did not like the message they were preaching unto them.

    Despite being rejected and only having 12 faithful followers, he still gave up his life for all of mankind.  To some, he was a revolutionist, to others a blasphemer of God, and some believe he was a threat to their way of life.  In the end, He was the Messiah and without him, there would not be forgiveness of our sins so has to see heaven one day.
  • D. Other.
    Jesus, if he was real, was an extremely enlightened human, way ahead of his time, in the same vein as Muhammad and buddha
  • Liar most certainly, lunatic perhaps.
    George_HorseNathaniel_BZombieguy1987cheesycheese
  • Jesus did lie, but he was brilliant at it. So genius that after everything he said and did, he threw a party for twelve of his closest friends and people still talk about it 2,000 years later. #greatestpartyever
    George_Horsecheesycheese
  • The Jesus character was most likely a lunatic. How could a human perform the impossible? And where are the witnesses to come forward to admit that they saw this man perform miracles? No bible is proof, the Jesus character must have been under the influence of ancient drugs, or downright insane
    Nathaniel_Bsomeone234
    "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? " ~Epicurus

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  • IdolRocksIdolRocks 49 Pts
  • IdolRocksIdolRocks 49 Pts
    @someone234

    Liar most certainly, lunatic perhaps.

    Really?

    https://www.josh.org/jesus-liar-lunatic-lord/

    https://carm.org/what-about-other-religions

    https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/liar-lunatic-or-reliable

    https://www.gty.org/library/sermons-library/41-15/jesus-liar-lunatic-or-lord

    I don't think you have investigated this case closely enough. Please take a look at the articles that I have provide for you above. 




  • IdolRocksIdolRocks 49 Pts
    @LogicVault ;

    The Jesus character was most likely a lunatic. How could a human perform the impossible? And where are the witnesses to come forward to admit that they saw this man perform miracles? No bible is proof, the Jesus character must have been under the influence of ancient drugs, or downright insane

    https://carm.org/bible-was-written-look-jesus-fulfilled-prophecy






  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 1653 Pts
    Jesus of Nazareth was essentially an anarchist with a complex system of moral beliefs. His views were certainly very impractical, as can be seen from the way his life ended: fighting an authoritarian machine with words and smiles does not work in the real world. But he did have some decent ideas.

    In many ways, he took the ideas of the original Roman Republic to the next level: where initially a council of citizens ruled the nation, he wanted the citizens themselves to rule their own individual nations. His views were in the same spirit as those of the Founding Fathers of the US, and just like them, he recognised only one authority: the god. But unlike the Fathers, it seems that he believed that every individual has their own god, while the former saw the god as one and the same for everyone, which allowed them to justify citizens' subordination to the central government.
  • IdolRocksIdolRocks 49 Pts
    @George_Horse'

    Jesus, if he was real, was an extremely enlightened human, way ahead of his time, in the same vein as Muhammad and buddha

    https://carm.org/the-historical-reliability-of-jesus-and-buddha

    https://carm.org/was-muhammad-a-true-prophet-of-god

    "way ahead of his time"

    Evidence, please?

    "Jesus, if he was real"

    https://carm.org/proof-that-jesus-existed

    https://carm.org/was-jesus-real

    https://carm.org/was-jesus-just-myth
  • IdolRocksIdolRocks 49 Pts
    @George_Horse

    "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? " ~Epicurus

    https://carm.org/atheism/epicurus-god-willing-to-prevent-evil


  • How about none of the above?

    He was a Messenger and a Prophet.
  • I think Jesus is more of a Sexy Beast you know what I mean? ;)
    Sovereignty for Kekistan


  • .
    Historicity, and the lack thereof, with logic and reason, explicitly shows that Jesus never existed in the first place. The mentioning of the Jesus myth all come from hearsay accounts, and to build such a faith from HEARSAY ONLY is pathetic, therefore all of these posts are for naught.


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