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This is too much government.
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  • they figured out that kids could still drink soda without straws, doh!
    Commyfornia cares about your health, but not if your homeless and they decriminalized marijuana isn't exactly healthy lol  This state is a great example why you don't want socialism and more government.
    "I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
    Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood"
    The Animals
  • Why is it too much?
  • they figured out that kids could still drink soda without straws, doh!
    Commyfornia cares about your health, but not if your homeless and they decriminalized marijuana isn't exactly healthy lol  This state is a great example why you don't want socialism and more government.
    Marijuana is one of the most beneficial substances on this flat Earth.
    Pseudoscience: noun; a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

    Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

    The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.

    Wayne Dyer
  • @Erfisflat

    everything has a down side, even air.
    "I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
    Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood"
    The Animals
  • @Applesauce California is not communist, you retard. Because you are a petulant troll, I will ignore you. Troll on maam.
    Applesauce
  • @someone234 Because the government has no right morally to regulate the human body. My body, my right to choose.
  • @YeshuaBought Why do you have more right than the government has to conclude what's best for the populace?
  • @someone234 asked Why is it too much?

    because the whole thing is so ?
    here's the bill, it's not really like what is said in the video, but still pretty dumb.  I haven't purchased a kids meal in a long while, however on the tv they say what is in it and that a "drink" is included.  I've never been asked what kind of soda do you want, but I have been asked what I would like to drink.  Maybe it's just a Commyfornia thing I dunno.
    " “Default beverage” means the beverage automatically included or offered as part of a children’s meal, absent a specific request by the purchaser of the children’s meal for an alternative beverage."  
    Is getting a drink that you don't choose a huge problem?  I've never heard such a thing.  You can order meals that come with water or milk, that's nothing new and been that way for a while.  What problem are they trying to solve exactly?  I'm not seeing any problem to fix, perhaps you can shed some light on it?
    here we go the Authoritrian part of it
    "114379.20.
     (a) A restaurant that sells a children’s meal shall make the default beverage offered with the children’s meal one of the following:"

    what is this "default beverage" what restaurant doesn't ask what you want to drink?

    ah here we go more dictatorship
    "(b) The beverage listed or displayed on a restaurant menu or advertisement for a children’s meal shall be one of the default beverages listed in subdivision (a)."
    so remove or make it look like you don't have any choice, gotcha.

    Is this "I can be even dumber game between California and N.Y."?  NY outlawed large sodas, because you know you can't just buy more than one LOL

    <I'm sorry that you are homeless, drug addict, sick, but we need to focus on fat kids and make sure they have a healthy drink with all that processed unhealthy food in their kids meals.>
    "I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
    Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood"
    The Animals
  • @Applesauce California is not communist, you retard. Because you are a petulant troll, I will ignore you. Troll on maam.
    they get closer all the time with these laws.  No grocery bags, no straws, no drink choice, do you see a pattern forming?  The state knows what is best for you and your body.  Started with gun control didn't it, and all the citizens thought that was good, but they haven't stopped with the controls and restrictions, wasn't the slippery slope you saw coming was it.
    "I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
    Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood"
    The Animals
  • Almost makes me want to take up drinking tea.
  • @Applesauce California and the West coast states treat the homeless way better than any other state I've been through, that's why they have so many because the other states just want them in the shadows and ignored.
  • @Applesauce California and the West coast states treat the homeless way better than any other state I've been through, that's why they have so many because the other states just want them in the shadows and ignored.
    so you think California is doing a good job with their homeless?  Doesn't matter if they are doing better than other states, are they doing a good job?
    "I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
    Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood"
    The Animals
  • @Applesauce why doesnt the job that other states are doing matter? Can't California being doing a good jobs relatively?
  • @Applesauce why doesnt the job that other states are doing matter? Can't California being doing a good jobs relatively?
    if it's inadequate do you think it makes much difference by how much?  show me the happy homeless then perhaps I could see how it might make a difference.  what does California do so well that other states don't other than have better weather?
    Judging by not answering my question the obvious answer is no, they aren't doing a good job with their homeless.  If they are doing better than other states like you say I don't see the relevance.  it's like a child saying he failed his test but got a higher grade than most of the others who also failed.
    "I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
    Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood"
    The Animals
  • @Applesauce I didn't answer your question because I never said California does a good job in a vacuum. You were clearly trying to bait an answer and I see you gave the response to the bait even though I never answered you.

    I'm going to stick by my initial claim that California, Washington, and Oregon treat the homeless better than the rest of the states I've been to. They don't criminalize homeless behavior. They don't try and run them out of town. They let their make shift homes stay instead of raiding and destroying them over and over expecting different results.
  • They don't try and run them out of town. They let their make shift homes stay instead of raiding and destroying them over and over expecting different results.

    ...unless there's a big game, or city officials just don't want to deal with them anymore.


    Bussed out - How America moves its homeless
  • @WordsMatter

    I was comparing California to itself as to how I see they prioritize things.  You brought other states into the conversation as some kind of relevance that i just don't see.  If you believe the proper priority is to ban straws etc instead of doing more for the homeless than so be it.  I for one, do not.
    "I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
    Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood"
    The Animals
  • WordsMatterWordsMatter 485 Pts
    edited September 2018
    @CYDdharta so what you're saying is there is still room for improvement!? I'm shocked I tell you. I said they are better not perfect. The same reason they move them away for the super bowl is the same reason many many other cities make their behavior illegal, the middle class is scared of the homeless and doesn't like being reminded that they exist Everytime they see them. They try to run their homeless out not just for the superbowl but also for the folks just going to work every Monday.

    Just because they hide them away for the superbowl doesnt all of a sudden make these places just as bad as, or worse than, other cities homeless policies. The policies that makes these cities better (not perfect) don't even have anything to do with communism or capitalism. There are cities across the US that share some of the same policies. It's just that cities like Portland Oregon have the most compassionate policies in dealing with the homeless.

    What city do you think has the best homeless policies?
  • @CYDdharta so what you're saying is there is still room for improvement!? I'm shocked I tell you. I said they are better not perfect. The same reason they move them away for the super bowl is the same reason many many other cities make their behavior illegal, the middle class is scared of the homeless and doesn't like being reminded that they exist Everytime they see them. They try to run their homeless out not just for the superbowl but also for the folks just going to work every Monday.

    Just because they hide them away for the superbowl doesnt all of a sudden make these places just as bad as, or worse than, other cities homeless policies. The policies that makes these cities better (not perfect) don't even have anything to do with communism or capitalism. There are cities across the US that share some of the same policies. It's just that cities like Portland Oregon have the most compassionate policies in dealing with the homeless.

    What city do you think has the best homeless policies?
    You said "They don't try and run them out of town. They let their make shift homes stay instead of raiding and destroying them over and over expecting different results."  This is clearly wrong, as they do, in fact, run them out of town and put them on buses to anywhere else when the mood strikes them.
  • @CYDdharta ok let me put it this way. Homeless policies is a test in school. California gets a D, Nebraska gets an F. Both are bad, both are far from perfect. All I'm saying it I'd rather get a D than an F. I'm not even sure what you are arguing for or if you are just arguing against me because you don't like me
  • California has some of the least competent officials running it among all the states, it seems. Just look at their governors. First Davis who nearly collapsed the economy with his interventionist policies, then Arny whose knowledge of politics was limited to "I like Reagan" and who put the state into the heaviest debt in its history, and finally now the Jerry who thinks himself a king and sees the state population as his naughty children that need to be put back in their place through harsh laws regulating even straws.

    It is really strange how a technological heaven that is Silicon Valley and some of the best universities in the world, gems such as Los-Angeles and San-Francisco and incredible overall economical output - can coexist with such a glaring governmental incompetence. California is truly full of contradictions.
    WordsMatter
  • @CYDdharta ok let me put it this way. Homeless policies is a test in school. California gets a D, Nebraska gets an F. Both are bad, both are far from perfect. All I'm saying it I'd rather get a D than an F. I'm not even sure what you are arguing for or if you are just arguing against me because you don't like me
    I suppose it depends on how you grade it.  Nebraska has 2501 homeless people, California has 134,278 .  If highest number wins, Cali is the runaway champ.
    Applesauce
  • @CYDdharta cool
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