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Conservative compassion stops at birth. Change my mind.

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    Does conservative compassion stop at birth?

    8 votes
    1. Yes.
      37.50%
    2. No.
      62.50%



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  • MichaelElpersMichaelElpers 1121 Pts   -  
    On the basis of what? ...because we don't often support as many government programs.  That doesn't prove anything.  Maybe we just think that you can better someones life in more ways than just giving out money, sometimes giving handouts keeps people in poverty.  Also society is becomes more altruistic and compassionate when you give of your own volition, forced altruism doesn't do this.

    It is also seen that republicans give more to charity.
  • YeshuaBoughtYeshuaBought 669 Pts   -  
    @MichaelElpers Agreed. I support President Trump now.
  • PlaffelvohfenPlaffelvohfen 3985 Pts   -  
    I agree with Carlin 100%.
    " Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 5967 Pts   -  
    The assumption that refusal to use taxpayers' money to support people struggling financially is indicative of lack of compassion is a logical fallacy. I am a very compassionate person, and that is exactly why I want people to be self-sufficient, and why I am against others taking their resources away against their will.

    When you grab other people's money to help someone, you are not being compassionate; you are being greedy. Compassionate people help others with their own resources, as I have consistently done, donating money to various causes, despite counting every cent when it comes to spending on myself. If I want to help someone, I help them, I do not demand that someone else helps them in my stead and then take credit for it. And if I am not willing to help them, then, at least, I keep my mouth shut and do not expect others to do something I myself am not doing.

    In addition, the best way to help people is to teach them self-sufficiency, not give them plain charity money. "If you give a man a fish, you will feed him for a day. If you give him a fishing pole, you will feed him for a lifetime." Look at what people like Grand Cardone or Dave Ramsey are doing: that is how you help the poor - you educate them about finances, so they could create and multiply wealth themselves. 

    I should mention that I am anything but a conservative person. Conservative people are generally stuck in the past, while I am looking forward. And returning to the old good model where everyone was hooked on the king's support does not seem like a good way forward to me.
  • piloteerpiloteer 1577 Pts   -  
    Most old conservatives I know were hippies when they were young. They'd  all tell me, "If you're not a liberal at 20, you got no heart. But if you're still a liberal at 40, you got no brain."    
  • billbatardbillbatard 133 Pts   -  
    Nah ,  you got it right, it seems
    The passion for destruction is also a creative passion. Mikhail Bakunin

  • all4acttall4actt 305 Pts   -  
    I think it disingenuos to claim that conservatives in general don't care.  Just because they believe in personal responsibility.  
  • VaulkVaulk 813 Pts   -  
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    "If there's no such thing as a question then what kind of questions do people ask"?

    "There's going to be a special place in Hell for people who spread lies through the veil of logical fallacies disguised as rational argument".

    "Oh, you don't like my sarcasm?  Well I don't much appreciate your stup!d".


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