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The corruption of religion
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    Does religion corrupt people's minds?

    6 votes
    1. Yes
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    2. No
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  • "Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!"- Anton LeVay 
    George_HorseZombieguy1987
    Retired DebateIslander. I no longer come here actively, and many of the things that I may have posted in the past (Such as belief in the flat Earth theory) do not reflect on my current views. 

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p6M-VgXHwwdpJarhyQYapBz-kRc6FrgdOLFAd3IfYz8/edit

  • Religion is like an opinion. It does not necessarily corrupt a persons mind. Some people may see it as a corruption of the mind (mainly people that are apart of other religions).
    Sovereignty for Kekistan
  • @Zombieguy1987 ;

    Religion doesn't corrupt people, people corrupt people, and plenty of people have taken religion and self corrupted it, for their own selfish needs and purposes.

    When some individuals have been found guilty of corruption via a crime, was the subject of religion itself found guilty, along with the corrupt individual? 


    Zombieguy1987George_HorseAlofRI
  • I believe religion corrupts people when the devotion to a particular religion becomes ardent and extreme. Some religious people are self-righteous. These people insist on proving they’re right to an intransigent extent. On the other hand, some religious people are willing to listen to what other people have to say about religion, thus allowing themselves the freedom to investigate and think on the contrary to their religion. Even if you believe in a specific religion, you might not perceive it as solemn as somebody else who is immensely earnest about the faith to an unjustifiable extent. Therefore, I feel that religion corrupts those who are unreasonably stringent and devoted to the religion. When it begins to take over your cognitive thinking, mood, behavior, etc., you are corrupted by religion.

    Zombieguy1987AlofRI
  • Any ideology that is not based on logic represents corruption of mind on some level. When one rejects logic, even to a small extent, and employs wishful thinking instead, then they are not in touch with the world they live in, and their mind will not operate based on real observable data - leading them to erroneous conclusions and subsequent actions.

    Religion can have a positive influence on people - however, that positive influence is accidental. It is much like picking a random number from 1 to 9 and guessing that you picked 5 - sometimes you will be right. However, that does not make your method in itself reasonable. After all, one can win $500m in a lottery, but investing all earnings into lottery tickets based on that would be very wrong.

    Religion can lead to right actions for wrong reasons. Sometimes it can even lead to better actions than logical approach would - but, again, for wrong reasons. And if the reasons are wrong, then one's entire world view is shaky, and even if it seems to be working really well right now, it has a large probability to backfire eventually.

    Consider a person believing themselves invincible. That might work for them for a while: their confidence will make them into a very successful negotiator, with no fear, with a tremendous amount of energy and optimism. But then one day they will decide to jump off a skyscraper to get an unforgettable experience - and that one mistake will cancel out all the previous successes.
    Religion is similar in this regard. Can it make a miserable person into a happy one sometimes? Absolutely. But the foundation is wrong, so chances are it will not last.
    Zombieguy1987George_HorseAlofRI
  • If religion is corrupt, then why not protest the religious building's in ones own neighborhood, and have the proper authorities go after the participants, or the pastor, minister, or preacher with a warrant or a group of warrants? 

    For the crimes of corrupting the individuals who go to, and go inside a religious building peacefully and voluntarily, and come out after a religious service, and are acting in a peaceful manner? 

    Why not go after the source (Religion) and charge religion with corruption; For corrupting the individual religious individuals, the religious parents? Or for corrupting the kids as well?

    Why not file a lawsuit, and go after every peaceful religious building in the United States, and the singular reason behind the nationwide lawsuit is this? 

    "Religion corrupts the mind of people"

    Why not reach out to CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, or WHRO, and ask them to give those news media outlets the filers of that lawsuit some camera time, and get interviewed by the various news anchors of those nationwide news media outlets, and express to the news anchor and the camera operator while wearing a microphone, and expess that the reason behind the lawsuit is because, "Religion corrupts the mind of people." 

    And take, and respond to the various questions that the news anchor might ask the filers of the lawsuit? 

    Wouldn't it be educational to see how the rest of the country might react and respond to the interview? 




    Zombieguy1987
  • TTKDB said:
    If religion is corrupt, then why not protest the religious building's in ones own neighborhood, and have the proper authorities go after the participants, or the pastor, minister, or preacher with a warrant or a group of warrants? 

    For the crimes of corrupting the individuals who go to, and go inside a religious building peacefully and voluntarily, and come out after a religious service, and are acting in a peaceful manner? 

    Why not go after the source (Religion) and charge religion with corruption; For corrupting the individual religious individuals, the religious parents? Or for corrupting the kids as well?

    Why not file a lawsuit, and go after every peaceful religious building in the United States, and the singular reason behind the nationwide lawsuit is this? 

    "Religion corrupts the mind of people"

    Why not reach out to CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, or WHRO, and ask them to give those news media outlets the filers of that lawsuit some camera time, and get interviewed by the various news anchors of those nationwide news media outlets, and express to the news anchor and the camera operator while wearing a microphone, and expess that the reason behind the lawsuit is because, "Religion corrupts the mind of people." 

    And take, and respond to the various questions that the news anchor might ask the filers of the lawsuit? 

    Wouldn't it be educational to see how the rest of the country might react and respond to the interview? 




    Because, This is the United States, where atheists are compared to rapists. So, if i showed this stuff too news sites, they wouldn't take it seriously
    https://www.google.com/search?q=victims+of+religion&safe=active&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=x&ved=0ahukewihu9jugorfahwkmeakhbtib00q_auidigb&biw=1920&bih=963&safe=active

    For the first time since 2009, the Carolina Hurricanes will be playing for the Stanley Cup! 

    Repealing the Second Amendment is the first step to Totalitarianism, and it needs to be prevented to protect our freedom 

    http://www.atheistrepublic.com/
  • @Zombieguy1987

    "Because, This is the United States, where atheists are compared to rapists. So, if i showed this stuff too news sites, they wouldn't take it seriously."

    Where is your Individual evidence to support your above statement? 

    You're the first Individual I've heard state such a thing on the internet, in regards to (atheists.)
    AlofRIZombieguy1987
  • @Zombieguy1987

    Do you have a comment for the previous points of view? 
    Zombieguy1987
  • @Oppolzer I agree. There are no better examples than the present VP and Sarah Huckabee.
    I'm an atheist but I have no objection to anyone's belief as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, and, in this country, abides by the Constitution. (That means making no laws respecting a particular religion).
    As far as corruption is concerned, I recommend "Religious Right, The Greatest Threat to Democracy" available from Amazon for less than $2. Written by a member who got sick OF the corruption AND the use of his/her religion TO corrupt.
    Zombieguy1987Oppolzer
  • @AlofRI

    The below is in reference to the book you mentioned.

    From Amazon.com: 

    https://www.amazon.com/Religious-Right-Greatest-Threat-Democracy-ebook/dp/B007V6IIDM


    "About this item

    Description

    Product Description

    There is a deceptive movement to take over the government, courts, education system, media outlets, and American culture with stealth – and it's true. How is this possible? Find out in the pages of this expose, written by an insider who left the Religious Right fold, and now shares why they believe they are mandated to have dominion over every aspect of life in the United States. It reveals how their vision for America is not a democracy at all. 

    – Understand the Religious Right network’s blueprint for America. 

    – Meet the Christian Reconstructionists and Dominionists.

    – Understand the Seven Mountains Mandate, which provides the strategy for a successful takeover.

    – See why Quiverfull is the template for a proper, traditional family. 

    – Finally, understand the attacks on public schools and teachers.

    – Find out who the leaders of the movement really are and their successful tactics. 

    – This book explains the rewriting of our nation’s history.

    – Complete with interviews, research, and bibliography included. 

    – Presentation is organized and systematic, while in plain English.

    – Shares how to get involved and make a difference in your community to protect your rights and preserve democracy.

    Review

    "Every freedom loving American should read this book. A.F. Alexander laysout the facts as only an insider could, and they are startling.Christian Dominionism represents a clear and present danger to ourdemocracy, and this book tells you what each of us can do to protect the Liberty we all hold so dear."  Jason Childs, founder of the Center for Progress in Alabama, Liberty University graduate, and former evangelical Baptist pastor.

    "Thereis a dangerous threat brewing, and many are afraid to speak outagainst it. As a former member of the Religious Right, A.F. Alexanderoffers an insider's explanation of why the movement formed, how itjoined with the Republican Party, how its members view the world, andwhat they want for America... this book serves as an honest andfrightening look into the movement."4 Stars Sacramento/SanFrancisco Book Reviews

    "Atheocracy is a nation where religion controls the government. 'Religious Right:The Greatest Threat to Democracy' is a treatise from a former member [who] shares...whatshe fears may be America's downfall. 'Religious Right' is worth considering forthose who want to better understand the Christian Right's ideals for theAmerican nation."  Midwest Book Review: Small Press Watch, June 2012.

    "It is a good basic introduction to understanding the drives of the fundamentalist Christian right and how they mesh into present day American politics...It will scare the pants off you - as it should!" Nulla/LibraryThing 4 stars

    About the Author

    A.F.Alexander was one of those far right conservative Christians. A.F. Alexander was born and raised in Colorado. She witnessed firsthand the relocation of Focus on the Family, and its impact on the city. She graduated from a church sponsored Bible Institute, worked as a part time church secretary in her spare time, was a Sunday School teacherfor approximately eight years, and wrote for a monthly churchpublication. She left the movement, after a few decades of ardentinvolvement, over the position that women should stay with abusive husbands.

    Four years, and over sixty reference books later (we aren't even touching onthe number of articles), she had systematically presented the Religious Rightagenda. "There are a couple of major themes and players that clearly stoodout as I researched and pieced their agenda together.  One theme that Ifound very disturbing was the intentional move towards a government and culturesolely established upon an extremist view of the Bible, essentially a theocracy,and a deliberate move away from any consent of the governed. I felt thatdeserved to be spotlighted and brought to every citizen's attention."

    She holds aBSBA degree, as well as a Bachelor of Arts in Sacred Theology. She has worked in Fortune 500 companies her entire adult life. This was thebook that had to be written and would not be quieted. 

    Join the author newsletter at the website:  ReligiousRight101.com, or join the discussion on Facebook: tinyurl.com/4yat788"

    AlofRI
  • @TTKDB 'Nuff said. Religion is what one makes it. It CAN be very good for some, or it can be BAD for all. It has caused wars and death at LEAST as much as it has done good. Read this book, people, and think about it when you vote next time. Believe what you want but don't forget that the PEOPLE within a religion are not always …. godly! If a religion becomes corrupt, it's because of the people USING it, unless it's a corrupt religion to begin with.
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