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Breaking News: Texas adoption agencies could soon discriminate against Jews, Muslims, and gays. Bad?
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  • Ah, let’s just go back to the 50’s I guess 
    https://www.google.com/search?q=victims+of+religion&safe=active&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=x&ved=0ahukewihu9jugorfahwkmeakhbtib00q_auidigb&biw=1920&bih=963&safe=active

    For the first time since 2009, the Carolina Hurricanes will be playing for the Stanley Cup! 

    Repealing the Second Amendment is the first step to Totalitarianism, and it needs to be prevented to protect our freedom 

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  • Private adoption agencies should be free to discriminate against anyone they want. Similarly, parents should be free to choose what kind of child they want to adopt.
    Public adoption agencies should not be a thing.

    Some countries, including a few Nordic ones, do not let the parents have any say in who they want to adopt. If you have queued for adoption, the government will give you a random child. If that child, say, is black, and you do not want a black child - then you have to queue again and wait for another 4-5 years, hoping that the next time they will offer you a child more to your taste. This obviously is unreasonable.

    Just like, when I choose who to marry, I do it myself, instead of letting the government decide - same should be the case with abortions. And in this regard, the Texas proposal is right.
    Zombieguy1987
  • @Zombieguy1987 Right? Is this fascism, or something else?
  • @MayCaesar Agreed, but public ones should not, fair enough?
  • This is one of those situations I hate.

    On one side, it's wrong to be discriminatory

    But on the other, it's a private business and it's their right to do what their doing
    https://www.google.com/search?q=victims+of+religion&safe=active&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=x&ved=0ahukewihu9jugorfahwkmeakhbtib00q_auidigb&biw=1920&bih=963&safe=active

    For the first time since 2009, the Carolina Hurricanes will be playing for the Stanley Cup! 

    Repealing the Second Amendment is the first step to Totalitarianism, and it needs to be prevented to protect our freedom 

    http://www.atheistrepublic.com/
  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 1451 Pts
    edited February 9
    @YeshuaBought

    I do not think the public ones should exist in the first place. There is no way to resolve this matter in the public sector. If the government does not allow discrimination, then the adopting parents' rights will be violated. If it does allow it, then the orphans' rights will be violated.

    In the private sector, on the other hand, some companies will, and others will not, discriminate, hence both the parents and the orphans will always have a choice in the matter.

    @Zombieguy1987

    I do not think private market discrimination is bad per se. For example, I recently got a credit card that was offered only to international foreign students in the US - by focusing on a particular group of people, the company has the ability to make the product as close to what that group desires as possible. Similarly, say, a cloth brand that is only sold to African-Americans does not have to worry about what the clothes will look like on people with a different skin color, hence reducing the number of unsatisfied customers who bought the product that was not intended for them.

    Where it gets bad, in my opinion, is when the culture of the society itself introduces discrimination on the market. When, for example, everyone believes that African-American people are inherently lazy, the market as a whole can react to that by virtually all employers offering African-American people lower salaries. Normally, on a free market customers vote with their wallets, making such practices not sustainable - but if the customers themselves do not see anything wrong with this discrimination, then it may persist.

    This, however, is hardly the reason for the governmental intrusion; that would make things even worse, leading to legal aberrations such as "racial quotas" and "affirmative action". There is no easy solution to this. Taking the government out of the equation and letting people sort these things out themselves is the path I would take, but it takes time: societal evolution is a slow and gradual process. Attempts to forcefully accelerate this process so far have mostly failed, with rare exceptions such as the Japanese society.
    Zombieguy1987
  • @Zombieguy1987 I see where you're coming from. I happen to be libertarian at least on the issue of religion and sexual matters, BUT I don't think my tax dollars should fund agencies that discriminate or impose a religious test. I see money as free speech, and reserve my and YOUR right to say what we want with our money. I also think public agencies do not have the right to impose a religious test, as religious liberty is a human right. Is that a fair compramise?
    Zombieguy1987
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