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How do you feel about Jesus Christ, Who's God in the flesh?
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I present to you 4 options: Do you love Him, hate Him, are you apathetic about Him, or undecided? For me, Jesus is the love of my life, and I am in love with Him, not in a strange way, just so in awe of Him, but I want to hear what YOU think. I removed everyone from my mute list, so everyone can participate freely.
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  • First of all I personally view Jesus as seperate from the Christian religion, which I believe are both man made things.

    With that said IF Jesus was real I don't view him as God. Instead I see him as an enlightened person trying to share the best way to live with the world. He is on the same level as Buddha.

    Now for further context my spiritual views are heavily influenced by Eastern traditions, the majority of which is Zen Buddhism, but other sects of Buddhism, Daoism, confucianism, and Hinduism all also contribute to my spiritual beliefs.

    I don't believe that it's possible to know if their is a God. However I do believe in Jesus' messages like let he without sin cast the first stone. Love sinners. Washing his followers feet not expecting the other way around. The lost sheep is the important one and shouldn't be scolded. That we have a moral duty to help those that are less fortunate.

    In conclusion, on the basis that I stated I like Jesus.
  • Well ok, you asked...

    If the man actually existed, he probably was a well intended philosopher trying to re-frame the ancient Golden Rule into something more contemporary to his days. Too much of esoteric gibberish mingled in for my taste but eh, this was 2000 years ago so it's understandable and overall, I got no beef with he guy, he's ok...

    Now, the deified version of the man, I do have problems with... I outright reject any notion of divinity as total nonsense and detrimental to humanity's flourishing.
    Kinda like religious people who say: Love the sinner but hate the sin... I say: Tolerate the faithfuls but despise the faith...

    Remember, you asked...
    Zombieguy1987
    " Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
  • I present to you 4 options: Do you love Him, hate Him, are you apathetic about Him, or undecided?

    Here’s the 5th choice 

    He’s a scam because there’s no evidence of his existence so I can’t hate, love, be apathetic or undecided about something that doesn’t exist 

     For me, Jesus is the love of my life, and I am in love with Him, not in a strange way, just so in awe of Him, but I want to hear what YOU think. I removed everyone from my mute list, so everyone can participate freely

    I wouldn’t be surprised if you mute someone that you disagree with

    OppolzerPlaffelvohfenmickyg
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    Socialism/Communism are great on paper, but all you need to do is look at Venezuela or North Korea see why these economic systems fail

    Repealing the Second Amendment is the first step to Totalitarianism, and it needs to be prevented to protect our freedom 

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  • If inspected as (maybe) a real historic character, then a great philosopher indeed, although has lost much of his grip due to overfocusing to hippy "turn-your-other-cheek"-metaphora. Real or fictional, I think has contributed a lot to our western values of dignity in suffering for a cause, compassion and leading by example and staying true to his moral.
  • Jesus of Nazareth was one of the first dissidents in the recorded history. Promoting a very naive version of anarchism, coupled with the concept of ultimate individual responsibility, he opposed the governmental and societal established structures to the extent few do even today. I suppose the best way I can characterize how I feel about him is to say that I respect him for standing true to himself to the end, doing what he thought was right even when it led him to a very slow and painful death. He defied the authority with unbroken resolve and never bound his knee to the oppressors.

    I do not necessarily view him positively overall, but I find him a worthy individual. He had a stronger will (even if it was partially coming from his madness) than 99.999% of humanity has today. People who stand by their principles not only in words, but in actions, regardless of the circumstances, are and have always been a rarity.

    That is as far as the historical persona goes. How do I feel about everything that allegedly happened after his death, all the resurrection stuff and such? I do not. Alternative history does not incite any emotions in me, as I simply ignore it and move on.
  • First of all I personally view Jesus as seperate from the Christian religion, which I believe are both man made things.

    With that said IF Jesus was real I don't view him as God. Instead I see him as an enlightened person trying to share the best way to live with the world. He is on the same level as Buddha.

    Now for further context my spiritual views are heavily influenced by Eastern traditions, the majority of which is Zen Buddhism, but other sects of Buddhism, Daoism, confucianism, and Hinduism all also contribute to my spiritual beliefs.

    I don't believe that it's possible to know if their is a God. However I do believe in Jesus' messages like let he without sin cast the first stone. Love sinners. Washing his followers feet not expecting the other way around. The lost sheep is the important one and shouldn't be scolded. That we have a moral duty to help those that are less fortunate.

    In conclusion, on the basis that I stated I like Jesus.
    Fair enough, let's debate! I will take the affirmative that Jesus is God, you may take the negative. I will use my collection of evidence to prove my claims. Are you game?
  • MayCaesar said:
    Jesus of Nazareth was one of the first dissidents in the recorded history. Promoting a very naive version of anarchism, coupled with the concept of ultimate individual responsibility, he opposed the governmental and societal established structures to the extent few do even today. I suppose the best way I can characterize how I feel about him is to say that I respect him for standing true to himself to the end, doing what he thought was right even when it led him to a very slow and painful death. He defied the authority with unbroken resolve and never bound his knee to the oppressors.

    I do not necessarily view him positively overall, but I find him a worthy individual. He had a stronger will (even if it was partially coming from his madness) than 99.999% of humanity has today. People who stand by their principles not only in words, but in actions, regardless of the circumstances, are and have always been a rarity.

    That is as far as the historical persona goes. How do I feel about everything that allegedly happened after his death, all the resurrection stuff and such? I do not. Alternative history does not incite any emotions in me, as I simply ignore it and move on.
    Don't just sit there and tell me I'm wrong, debate me.
    Zombieguy1987
  • mickygmickyg 24 Pts
    There are more than 4v options.You need to add..5.Have found no eyewitness accounts or even a mention of the gospels before 160ad@YeshuaBought
    Zombieguy1987YeshuaBought
  • mickygmickyg 24 Pts
    DEBATE YOU?you never reply.Once again.The gospels are anonymous and don't appear in history until 160ad.@YeshuaBought
    Zombieguy1987
  • @Zombieguy1987 ;
    @mickyg

    "No evidence for Jesus' existence" false
    See https://www.history.com/news/was-jesus-real-historical-evidence

    Summarized succinctly, "Within a few decades of his lifetime, Jesus was mentioned by Jewish and Roman historians in passages that corroborate portions of the New Testament that describe the life and death of Jesus."

    Even historian Flavius Josephus mentions him in 93 AD.

    The gospels are indeed anonymous. The earliest gospel, Mark was written 66-70 AD. Most of the epistles are named, however.

    Let's look at what neutral sources say on the matter.

    https://www.history.com/news/was-jesus-real-historical-evidence - Jesus existed
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/12/18/did-historical-jesus-exist-the-traditional-evidence-doesnt-hold-up/?utm_term=.45c7dfae6962 - Jesus did not exist (but this was written by the author of There Was No Jesus, There Is No God, so this source is biased)
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/14/what-is-the-historical-evidence-that-jesus-christ-lived-and-died - Jesus existed
    https://bigthink.com/culture-religion/was-jesus-real?rebelltitem=10#rebelltitem10 - Jesus existed
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-human-beast/201605/did-jesus-exist - Jesus did not exist
    https://www.livescience.com/13711-jesus-christ-man-physical-evidence-hold.html - Jesus existed (although said by Biblical scholar)

    So, there is strong evidence that Jesus was at least a real person, supported by Christian and non-Christian scholars.
    YeshuaBoughtZombieguy1987
  • mickyg said:
    DEBATE YOU?you never reply.Once again.The gospels are anonymous and don't appear in history until 160ad.@YeshuaBought
    You need to stay on topic. How do you feel about Jesus?
    Zombieguy1987
  • mickyg said:
    There are more than 4v options.You need to add..5.Have found no eyewitness accounts or even a mention of the gospels before 160ad@YeshuaBought
    Citation needed.
  • mickygmickyg 24 Pts
    The gospels are anonymous and no one mentions them until 160ad.So who saw jesus?Give one eyewitness account.@anonymousdebater
  • mickygmickyg 24 Pts
    This is the citation.JUSTIN MARTYR mentions the gospels for the first known time in 160ad.I concede that date.I HAVE FOUND NOTHING BEFORE 160AD.how do i give a citation for this?@YeshuaBought
  • mickygmickyg 24 Pts
    How i feel about jesus is that he never existed.There are zero eyewitness accounts of him.@YeshuaBought
  • mickygmickyg 24 Pts
    The Roman Catholic church admitted the shroud of turin was fake in 1389ad.@anonymousdebater
  • mickyg said:
    The Roman Catholic church admitted the shroud of turin was fake in 1389ad.@anonymousdebater
    I'm not a Catholic.
    Zombieguy1987
  • mickygmickyg 24 Pts
    Flavius joseph is a universally known forgery.The text is called the testimonium flavium or TF.The TF does not appear in history until eusebius mentions it in fourth century.Other church fathers use josephus in their defense of christianity before this but no one mentions the TF until eusebius.@anonymousdebater
    YeshuaBought
  • @mickyg And I'm still not a Catholic.
    Zombieguy1987
  • mickygmickyg 24 Pts
    My statement was that the gospels are anonymous and no one mentions them until 160ad..As usual the reply starts quoting the gospels.An anonymous text showing up 130 years after event is not evidence of anything.ONE SIXTY.....130 years after the fact.@anonymousdebater
  • mickygmickyg 24 Pts
    IF jesus existed he did and said nothing original.@hoemjuusto
  • @mickyg Are you an antitheist?
    Zombieguy1987
  • mickygmickyg 24 Pts
    Yes I am antitheist .Christianity is the world evil to infect our planet.Christians have been murdering Jews for 1700 years culminating with Hitler.@YeshuaBought
    Zombieguy1987
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