Marijuana Legalization is a fair and equal concept, to the public as a whole?

jesusisGod777

What does fair have anything to do with a narcotic?

The entire reason marijuana use is frowned upon is for obvious reasons.

Jesus is Lord

WinstonC

All of these arguments apply equally to alcohol and/or tobacco.

"Is it, fair, an equal to an unborn baby, for the babies, mother to smoke recreational marijuana, while pregnant?"

No, just like alcohol and tobacco. It's legal to drink while pregnant in some states and illegal in others.

"Is it, fair to the sober drivers, in those same states, for the marijuana user, to smoke marijuana, while illegally operating their vehicle"

No, just like alcohol. You will get arrested for drunk driving or drugged driving.

"Is it, fair and equal, for a marijuana user, to use their recreational marijuana, inside of the same home, that their family lives in as well?"

No, just like tobacco. We could certainly make laws to prevent people from smoking marijuana around children if they don't already exist.

"Is it, fair and equal, for a marijuana user, to go to work,
while high on marijuana,"

No, just like alcohol. You will get fired if you go to work high/drunk.

TKDB

Below is some information for the pro marijuana crowd, the alcoholic crowd, and the chain smokers crowd:

https://www.healthline.com/health/pregnancy/smoking-weed


https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/fasd/alcohol-use.html

"There is no known safe amount of alcohol use during pregnancy or while trying to get pregnant. There is also no safe time during pregnancy to drink. All types of alcohol are equally harmful, including all wines and beer.

FASDs are preventable if a woman does not drink alcohol during pregnancy.

Why Alcohol is Dangerous

Alcohol in the mother’s blood passes to the baby through the umbilical cord. Drinking alcohol during pregnancy can cause miscarriage, stillbirth, and a range of lifelong physical, behavioral, and intellectual disabilities. These disabilities are known as fetal alcohol spectrum disorders (FASDs). Children with FASDs might have the following characteristics and behaviors:

• Abnormal facial features, such as a smooth ridge between the nose and upper lip (this ridge is called the philtrum)
• Small head size
• Shorter-than-average height
• Low body weight
• Poor coordination
• Hyperactive behavior
• Difficulty with attention
• Poor memory
• Difficulty in school (especially with math)
• Learning disabilities
• Speech and language delays
• Intellectual disability or low IQ
• Poor reasoning and judgment skills
• Sleep and sucking problems as a baby
• Vision or hearing problems
• Problems with the heart, kidney, or bones

Learn more about FASDs »

How Much Alcohol is Dangerous

There is no known safe amount of alcohol to drink while pregnant.

When Alcohol is Dangerous

There is no safe time to drink alcohol during pregnancy. Alcohol can cause problems for the developing baby throughout pregnancy, including before a woman knows she is pregnant. Drinking alcohol in the first three months of pregnancy can cause the baby to have abnormal facial features. Growth and central nervous system problems (e.g., low birthweight, behavioral problems) can occur from drinking alcohol anytime during pregnancy. The baby’s brain is developing throughout pregnancy and can be affected by exposure to alcohol at any time.

If a woman is drinking alcohol during pregnancy, it is never too late to stop. The sooner a woman stops drinking, the better it will be for both her baby and herself. "

The pro marijuana crowd, the alcoholic crowd, and the chain smoking crowd, can view any argument, that goes against the grain of the addictions, as they choose to, but it doesn't make their abuse, right, with another life inside of their bodies.

It's sad that there are ladies out there who don't mind abusing their own bodies with their addiction issues, but to put an unborn baby, through their own addiction issues, speaks to how abusive, that some can be with their addictions.

And another thought, Marijuana isn't alcohol, or tobacco. 

But its a silly, and fraudulent selling point to group marijuana in with alcohol, and tobacco, because the pro marijuana crowd, needs such talking points, as a way to manipulate, coax, or persuade, the rest of the public, who don't use, and abuse, recreational marijuana, like the marijuana user's have been doing for years, and want the rest of the public, to mindfully buy off on the fraudulent selling point, that is harmful to an unborn baby, isn't it?

A lady using marijuana while, she is pregnant, and her baby, is born with some of those birth defects, what excuse, might she use to explain to her child, why her child's health is in, the shape that it's in?

Because this or that law, maybe doesn't make marijuana, alcohol, or tobacco use illegal, while pregnant, somehow justifies, the birth defects created, because of a marijuana addicts, alcoholics, or chain smokers use, and abuse, of those intoxicants or stimulants, at their individual say so?

But please, pro marijuana crowd, continue to push that fraudulent argument, so that the public, can be educated on those select, pro marijuana selling points, to create empathy, or sympathy for the marijuana using crowd? 

Because that's how my opinion, has become continuesly shaped, by some of the pro marijuana crowd, and their fraudulent selling points, used to sell, to the public, as a whole, when it comes to their pro marijuana talking points rhetoric? 

WinstonC

@TKDB When I say "No, just like alcohol and tobacco." I'm saying No, it's not fair on the unborn child, just like it's not fair when the mother uses alcohol or tobacco during pregnancy. The reason I brought up the legality (in 2013 drinking while pregnant was illegal in 44 states, though this may have changed) was to show that we can make the specific case you cite; drug taking while pregnant, illegal.

TKDB

@WinstonC

I apologize sir.

jesusisGod777

Saying something's fair because a substance was legalized , implys that all substances although harmful should be legal.

Explain to me how a law, in it's given sense intends for moral conduct, makes something fair, a moral implication if the act itself is immoral for more than a few many reasons.

Jesus is Lord.

TKDB

@jesusisGod777

Marijuana legalization is fair, only to these groups:

The marijuana addicts, incarcerated, and not incarcerated?

Ask any of them, if their marijuana addict, drug use, is being tolerated happily, by their own kids, or families?

It's fair to those states taxation and revenue coffers?

Now, ask the pro marijuana crowd, what taxation and revenue coffers, before marijuana was legalized in their states, were used to fund, their education and school systems?

They either, don't know, or don't, give a care to answer that simple question?

Because there is someone, who is responsible for how their states taxation and revenue coffers, are used to pay for education, and schools? 

The Department of Revenue would know?

The Marijuana legalization is fair to the marijuana industry?

The Marijuana legalization is fair, to those individuals who used the Legalization of recreational marijuana platform, as a part of their individual campaign speeches?

Now, ask the rest of those states constituents, if Marijuana Legalization, is fair to them?

Ask the unborn babies, whose mother's are, carrying them at this moment, if their mothers marijuana use, are being fair to their unborn babies?

And ask the Public, if they are of the marijuana pollution section, that isn't a part of their states Marijuana Law's, or if those same law's, are in violation of the Ex Post Facto law, argument, that some like to challenge those states, Marijuana Law's with? 

And I, can imagine that those Non Marijuana User Constituents, will have a clue as to what those two irrelevant talking points will mean to them?

But it is pro marijuana crowd gold, that is used, to lavish the non marijuana users constituents ears with, when they go about peddling, their usual pro marijuana rhetoric, to the public?

Via their websites, via those various magazine's that will publish their messaging? 

Via those select pro marijuana Polls, that have been used, to coerce the public with? 

None of the pro marijuana crowd, will touch the above, because they'll treat it with their Silence of Opinion.

And that's how you'll come to realize who the pro marijuana crowd is, by their purposeful Silence. 

While their families, the unborn babies, and the public, in general, gets no legitimate say, against the politics of the marijuana addicts, or the marijuana crowd themselves, because the public in general is irrelevant to them, and their pro marijuana causes?

Listen for their combined Silence, its very distinct.

piloteer

Oops. Wrong debate.

TKDB

@jesusisGod777

Now take note of Plaffelvohfen's and piloteer's response.

jesusisGod777

No I won't take note of anything in this debate.

Your suggesting that's fairness has something to do with decrminilization of use and possession of illegal substances.

Their are first and foremost classified differently than tobacco and alchohal because of their nuerological effects.

Tobacco has no nuerological effect and alchohal is nothing like marijuana.

So what are you even talking about?