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Your Mom and Dad Made You not God
in Religion

By Dr_MaybeDr_Maybe 137 Pts
God didn't create your physical body, your mom and dad did. At best all god did was create the biological process that after a very long time led to your creation. So, if that's the case what's wrong with god creating evolution to do the same thing?

It looks a lot like the people who made the bible knew only a fraction of the whole story. If they had known the whole story evolution would no doubt have been included in the bible.
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  • TKDBTKDB 355 Pts
    @Dr_Maybe

    And Humanity in general only uses 10% of their brain function.

    While there are some savants living amongst us, that utilize I believe up to 15-20% of their brain function?

    If Humanity was able to properly utilize 100% of its brain function, the level of rationale, reasoning, and thought processing, I'm guessing, might frighten some modern day thinkers?

    Because a fair amount of humanity, is overly comfortable in utilizing just that 10% of their brain function, because I guess, that suits them?

    "Your Mom and Dad Made You not God"


    God made the Universe, and God created Humanity. 

    But with the way, some of us, have our minds set up, we're not able to rationalize up to that level of understanding just yet?

    My guess, is that some of humanity in general, has to go through some more evolutionary changes before we get to that point?

    Because, humanity in general, isn't ready yet, to fairly and equally rationalize God, just yet? 


    PlaffelvohfenAlofRIsmoothieDr_Maybe
  • VaulkVaulk 667 Pts
    The idea that Humans only use 10% of their brain is scientifically unfounded.  There is no evidence to suggest that we are inefficient in the use of our brain or that we only use a portion of it.  It's an old wive's tale at best and at worst it's a stupid joke that someone said once that caught traction because it sounds profound.  It's a Myth.

    I will say that I've read some things on this debate site that lead me to believe that it might be true, especially for people who use the 10% myth as a premise for rationalizing human thought.
    Happy_KillbotPlaffelvohfenMayCaesarDr_MaybeZeusAres42
    "If there's no such thing as a stupid question then what kind of questions do stupid people ask"?

    "There's going to be a special place in Hell for people who spread lies through the veil of logical fallacies disguised as rational argument".

    "Oh, you don't like my sarcasm?  Well I don't much appreciate your stupid".


  • DeeDee 1101 Pts
    @TKDB

    **** And Humanity in general only uses 10% of their brain function

    Thats a gross over estimate in your case.....Either way that stat is B S 
    Happy_KillbotPlaffelvohfenAlofRI
  • TKDBTKDB 355 Pts
    edited November 26
    @Dee

    @Vaulk

    @Happy_Killbot

    @Plaffelvohfen

    Disprove my argument?

    Go find some Science Reference Material, and disprove my argument?

    One of the four of you, should be able to come up with some Non Atheist Oriented Science to prove me wrong?


    And Humanity in general only uses 10% of their brain function.

    While there are some savants living amongst us, that utilize I believe up to 15-20% of their brain function?

    If Humanity was able to properly utilize 100% of its brain function, the level of rationale, reasoning, and thought processing, I'm guessing, might frighten some modern day thinkers?

    Because a fair amount of humanity, is overly comfortable in utilizing just that 10% of their brain function, because I guess, that suits them?

    "Your Mom and Dad Made You not God"


    God made the Universe, and God created Humanity. 

    But with the way, some of us, have our minds set up, we're not able to rationalize up to that level of understanding just yet?

    My guess, is that some of humanity in general, has to go through some more evolutionary changes before we get to that point?

    Because, humanity in general, isn't ready yet, to fairly and equally rationalize God, just yet?  





    PlaffelvohfenHappy_KillbotAlofRIDr_Maybe
  • DeeDee 1101 Pts
    @TKDB

    **** Disprove my argument?

    A few minutes ago you tried the same thing you said it was up to me to disprove your god it’s not you idiot the burden of proof is on you ....still 
    AlofRIPlaffelvohfen
  • @TKDB How about you provide evidence to support it instead of trying to shift the burden of proof?

    Seriously, do you even know how debate is supposed to work?
    PlaffelvohfenZeusAres42
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation, Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root and developed into the human race, who conquered fire, built societies and developed technology .
    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • VaulkVaulk 667 Pts
    @TKDB

    .........................................................................................I literally cited evidence for my claim that disproves the 10% myth, it's hyperlinked in blue letters in the word "Myth" in my original post.  It's a link to The Scientific American Journal with the exact references needed to explain how and why it's a myth as well as accredited Neurologists attesting that it's totally unfounded.  

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    PlaffelvohfenHappy_KillbotZeusAres42TKDB
    "If there's no such thing as a stupid question then what kind of questions do stupid people ask"?

    "There's going to be a special place in Hell for people who spread lies through the veil of logical fallacies disguised as rational argument".

    "Oh, you don't like my sarcasm?  Well I don't much appreciate your stupid".


  • Wait a minute. Consider what is coming from our current government. THEY are supposed to be some of our most intelligent people. Maybe we should LOWER that estimate to maybe 8? ….. 6 even?
  • TKDBTKDB 355 Pts
    @Vaulk

    @Plaffelvohfen



    Show me where some Atheists belittling any Religion, is a form of intelligent thought?

    Show me where terrorism, is a form of intelligent thought?

    Show me where a mass shooters gun violence crimes, or gun violence crimes in general, is a form of intelligent thought?

    Show me how the Liberals going after Trump, with their Trump Impeachment Hearings, is a form of intelligent thought?

    Show me how the 22 million illegal immigrants or aliens, coming into the United States illegally, since 1987, is a form of intelligent thought?
  • TKDBTKDB 355 Pts
    @Vaulk

    @Plaffelvohfen

    Show me where some Atheists belittling any Religion, is a form of intelligent thought?

    Show me where terrorism, is a form of intelligent thought?

    Show me where a mass shooters gun violence crimes, or gun violence crimes in general, is a form of intelligent thought?

    Show me how the Liberals going after Trump, with their Trump Impeachment Hearings, is a form of intelligent thought?

    Show me how the 22 million illegal immigrants or aliens, coming into the United States illegally, since 1987, is a form of intelligent thought?
  • @TKDB ; "Show me where some Atheists belittling any Religion, is a form of intelligent thought?"

    I think this thread is an excellent example.
    DeePlaffelvohfenTKDB
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation, Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root and developed into the human race, who conquered fire, built societies and developed technology .
    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • DeeDee 1101 Pts
    @TKDB

    ****.   Show me how the 22 million illegal immigrants or aliens, coming into the United States illegally, since 1987, is a form of intelligent thought?


    Really? They are leaving countries where the unfortunate individuals have no quality of life so the intelligent thing to do is to leave for a better situation , that’s exercising intelligence. 

    You really do make some ridiculous statements,  tell me you claim to be a Christian what was the position of Jesus in helping the needy?

    PlaffelvohfenTKDBZeusAres42
  • @Dr_Maybe @Dr_Maybe ; Every human being is created by God in His spiritual image with a specific and unique set of characteristics and talents to be used by and for God's purposes. The human sex-act simply provides constituent elements of DNA to provide the complete human being in the womb...but the life, the eternal spirit, the consciousness, the moral law, the uniqueness, of every individual is created by God and the breath of life is breathed into them by God and that breath will be retrieved when the body dies away and frees the spirit to return home to the God who gave it. 
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  • TKDBTKDB 355 Pts
    edited November 26
    @Happy_Killbot

    @Dee

    @Vaulk

    @Plaffelvohfen

    Show me where some Atheists belittling any Religion, is a form of intelligent thought?

    Show me where terrorism, is a form of intelligent thought?

    Show me where a mass shooters gun violence crimes, or gun violence crimes in general, is a form of intelligent thought?

    Show me how the Liberals going after Trump, with their Trump Impeachment Hearings, is a form of intelligent thought?

    Show me how the 22 million illegal immigrants or aliens, coming into the United States illegally, since 1987, is a form of intelligent thought?
    RickeyD
  • Happy_KillbotHappy_Killbot 382 Pts
    edited November 26
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation, Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root and developed into the human race, who conquered fire, built societies and developed technology .
    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • TKDBTKDB 355 Pts
    @Dee

    "You really do make some ridiculous statements,  tell me you claim to be a Christian what was the position of Jesus in helping the needy?"

    I'm pro Family, pro Adoption, pro Community, pro Religious Freedom, pro Atheist, and pro Theist.

    Humanity should be willing to help the poor, the homeless, or the needy, regardless of what any Religion says, right?

  • TKDBTKDB 355 Pts
    edited November 26


  • TKDBTKDB 355 Pts
    edited November 26
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  • DeeDee 1101 Pts

    @TKDB

    Nice swerve , but pretty obvious , let’s revisit here is what you said .....    Show me how the 22 million illegal immigrants or aliens, coming into the United States illegally, since 1987, is a form of intelligent thought?

    So can you explain how their decision to seek refuge is unintelligent?
    TKDB
  • TKDBTKDB 355 Pts
    edited November 26
    @Dee

    Again, I'm a realist.
    And I'm pro law abiding, pro family, and pro community as well. 

    I'm guessing that you're maybe pro Illegal Immigrant, or Alien, right?

    I didn't swerve from ANYTHING, I know the difference between being Law Abiding, and those who are Non Law abiding, by breaking the law to come into the United States Illegally, like their Illegal selves did?

    "Nice swerve , but pretty obvious , let’s revisit here is what you said .....    Show me how the 22 million illegal immigrants or aliens, coming into the United States illegally, since 1987, is a form of intelligent thought?

    So can you explain how their decision to seek refuge is unintelligent?"

    The Intelligent and Law Abiding thought, would have been to TAKE the proper channels to legally come into the United States, legally. 

    So instead, their illegal and unintelligent selves, are costing the US taxpayers Billions of dollars, each year to cater to those 22 million illegal immigrants or aliens? 

    Who are, I'm guessing, are waiting for a Liberal Politician to BAIL those Illegal Immigrants with Amnesty, which non of them deserve. 



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  • DeeDee 1101 Pts
    edited November 26
    @TKDB

    ***** Who are, I'm guessing, are waiting for a Liberal Politician to BAIL those Illegal Immigrants with Amnesty, which non of them deserve. 

    Spoken like a true American follower of Christ 
    TKDB
  • SandSand 110 Pts

    Can you explain the steps in evolution?
    What came first, then second, etc?

  • TKDBTKDB 355 Pts
    @Dee

    No answers huh?

    Are you an Atheist Swerver? 
  • TKDBTKDB 355 Pts
    edited November 27
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  • Vaulk said:
    The idea that Humans only use 10% of their brain is scientifically unfounded.  There is no evidence to suggest that we are inefficient in the use of our brain or that we only use a portion of it.  It's an old wive's tale at best and at worst it's a stupid joke that someone said once that caught traction because it sounds profound.  It's a Myth.

    I will say that I've read some things on this debate site that lead me to believe that it might be true, especially for people who use the 10% myth as a premise for rationalizing human thought.
    Funnily enough, I've just finished reading the first chapter about pop psychology myths. The book can be bought and read from here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Great-Myths-Popular-Psychology-Misconceptions/dp/1405131128

    And you're right, the idea of people only using 10% of their brain is indeed unfounded. There is no evidence of this anywhere. Not to mention it's also a very silly thing to say and believe in, given what we now know about the human brain.


    TKDB

    “It is impossible for someone to lie unless he thinks he knows the truth. Producing bullsh*t requires no such conviction…”
    ― Ben Goldacre, Bad Science




  • SandSand 110 Pts
    If you are unable to explain the more complete story by outlining the order of evolution.
    Could it be that you only know a fraction of the whole story?
    In the Bible, a detailed order of events is spelled out.
    Nevertheless, I have found a variation of opinions with the order with evolution.
    Please go on record now detailing the order of events, since evolution is a more complete explanation.

    I have questions:

    Can you really call scientists experts when they have multiple opinions on the same event?
    Can you really trust their conclusions when it changes constantly?
    Can you be sure it is accurate when no one will go on record in order to avoid being wrong?
    Why do people believe evolution when it cannot be seen or shown?

    If the final step was a man from an ape, then why can't a man procreate with an ape?
    Why can't a man who suppositive evolved from other animals, procreate with none of the animals?

    Now I know the urge is to press the "disagree" or "fallacy" button without providing valid answers.

    I feel it is like pleading the fifth amendment when someone will decline to answer questions where the answers might incriminate them, or in this case, disassemble their argument.

  • TKDB said:
    @Dee

    No answers huh?

    Are you an Atheist Swerver? 
    If your spam came in a can I would like it much better.
    ZeusAres42DeeTKDB
  • TKDBTKDB 355 Pts
    @ZeusAres42

    Show me where some Atheists belittling any Religion, is a form of intelligent thought?

    Show me where terrorism, is a form of intelligent thought?

    Show me where a mass shooters gun violence crimes, or gun violence crimes in general, is a form of intelligent thought?

    Show me how the Liberals going after Trump, with their Trump Impeachment Hearings, is a form of intelligent thought?

    Show me how the 22 million illegal immigrants or aliens, coming into the United States illegally, since 1987, is a form of intelligent thought? 

    @ZeusAres42

    "Funnily enough, I've just finished reading the first chapter about pop psychology myths. The book can be bought and read from here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Great-Myths-Popular-Psychology-Misconceptions/dp/1405131128

    And you're right, the idea of people only using 10% of their brain is indeed unfounded. There is no evidence of this anywhere. Not to mention it's also a very silly thing to say and believe in, given what we now know about the human brain."
     
  • Vaulk said:
    @TKDB

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    A very wise decision.
    TKDB

    “It is impossible for someone to lie unless he thinks he knows the truth. Producing bullsh*t requires no such conviction…”
    ― Ben Goldacre, Bad Science




  • TKDBTKDB 355 Pts
    @ZeusAres42

    @Vaulk

    Both excercising the Atheist philosophy of Swerving? 

    Because of these questions?

    Show me where some Atheists belittling any Religion, is a form of intelligent thought?

    Show me where terrorism, is a form of intelligent thought?

    Show me where a mass shooters gun violence crimes, or gun violence crimes in general, is a form of intelligent thought?

    Show me how the Liberals going after Trump, with their Trump Impeachment Hearings, is a form of intelligent thought?

    Show me how the 22 million illegal immigrants or aliens, coming into the United States illegally, since 1987, is a form of intelligent thought? 


  • DeeDee 1101 Pts
    edited November 27
    @TKDB

    I’m not responsible for your stupidity I asked you a simple question and as usual you totally avoid answering , normally you use one of two replies TKDB


    1:You’re off topic @TKDB

    2: Why not ask Mr Dawkins or variations of similar babble 


    Here is what I said ......
    So can you explain how their decision to seek refuge is unintelligent 


    TKDB
  • DeeDee 1101 Pts
    edited November 27
    @TKDB

    The Sea Lion Mr T is quiet persistent but hey that’s Sea Lions for ya .....






    TKDB
  • TKDBTKDB 355 Pts
    edited November 27
    @Dee

    And you are Atheist Swerving again.

    Again, The Intelligent and Law Abiding thought, would have been to TAKE the proper channels to legally come into the United States, legally. 

    So instead, their illegal and unintelligent selves, are costing the US taxpayers Billions of dollars, each year to cater to those 22 million illegal immigrants or aliens? 

    Who are, I'm guessing, are waiting for a Liberal Politician to BAIL those Illegal Immigrants with Amnesty, which non of them deserve.  
  • DeeDee 1101 Pts

    ***** Those  Illegal Immigrants with Amnesty, which non of them deserve.  

    Jesus would hate you 
    TKDB
  • TKDBTKDB 355 Pts
    @Dee

    You already hate me.

    I'm doing well. 
  • TKDBTKDB 355 Pts
    @Dee

    And you are Atheist Swerving again.

    Again, The Intelligent and Law Abiding thought, would have been to TAKE the proper channels to legally come into the United States, legally. 

    So instead, their illegal and unintelligent selves, are costing the US taxpayers Billions of dollars, each year to cater to those 22 million illegal immigrants or aliens? 

    Who are, I'm guessing, are waiting for a Liberal Politician to BAIL those Illegal Immigrants with Amnesty, which non of them deserve.  

    ***** Those  Illegal Immigrants with Amnesty, which non of them deserve.

    "Jesus would hate you"

    More Atheist Swerving?

    How do you know if Jesus would hate me?


    Because with the way you hound me, I'm doing well!


  • DeeDee 1101 Pts
    @TKDB


    ***** 
    You already hate me.

    I'm doing well. 


    I don’t hate anyone , I think you’re an idiot and you prove it every time 




    TKDB
  • DeeDee 1101 Pts
    @TKDB

    *****And you are Atheist Swerving again.

    Swerve means to avoid which I’ve not done , you on the other hand do nothing else as you’ve never answered a question here yet because of your genetic stupidity 
    TKDB
  • DeeDee 1101 Pts
    @TKDB

    ****And you are Atheist Swerving again.

    Are you still beating your kids?
    TKDB
  • TKDBTKDB 355 Pts
    edited November 27
    @Dee

    "I don’t hate anyone , I think you’re an idiot and you prove it every time."

    *****And you are Atheist Swerving again.

    "Swerve means to avoid which I’ve not done , you on the other hand do nothing else as you’ve never answered a question here yet because of your genetic stupidity."

    And I embrace your negative efforts.

    And the icing on the cake quotation from you:

    "Are you still beating your kids?"

    Because you continue to Atheist Swerve like a champion.


  • Vaulk said:
    The idea that Humans only use 10% of their brain is scientifically unfounded.  There is no evidence to suggest that we are inefficient in the use of our brain or that we only use a portion of it.  It's an old wive's tale at best and at worst it's a stupid joke that someone said once that caught traction because it sounds profound.  It's a Myth.

    I will say that I've read some things on this debate site that lead me to believe that it might be true, especially for people who use the 10% myth as a premise for rationalizing human thought.
    And you're also right that people who use this as a premise most probably are only using no more than 10 percent of their brain. I guess the other 90 percent of their brain is just empty space haha @Vaulk

    “It is impossible for someone to lie unless he thinks he knows the truth. Producing bullsh*t requires no such conviction…”
    ― Ben Goldacre, Bad Science




  • DeeDee 1101 Pts
    edited November 27
    ZeusAres42
  • RickeyD said:
    @Dr_Maybe @Dr_Maybe ; Every human being is created by God in His spiritual image with a specific and unique set of characteristics and talents to be used by and for God's purposes. The human sex-act simply provides constituent elements of DNA to provide the complete human being in the womb...but the life, the eternal spirit, the consciousness, the moral law, the uniqueness, of every individual is created by God and the breath of life is breathed into them by God and that breath will be retrieved when the body dies away and frees the spirit to return home to the God who gave it. 

    The human sex-act simply provides constituent elements of DNA to provide the complete human being in the womb the breath of life is breathed into them by God.

    These are your own words and it agrees with what I said.

    I do not believe god breathes anything into anything, but if he does he'd have time to do nothing else 24 7, 365 days a year.

    If god were smart he would set in motion an evolutionary process that did the work of creating humans for him and being god he surely could have.


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