Deputy tases woman, 70, while trying to make arrest at her home

smoothie

Are you really using the situation of a grandma being brutally tased to make an argument on race on race crimes?

I don't see the connection myself

TKDB

@smoothie

"Are you really using the situation of a grandma being brutally tased to make an argument on race on race crimes?

I don't see the connection myself."

Did you read the entirety of the story?

"Bradenton, Florida — A sheriff's deputy tased a 70-year-old woman three times while trying to arrest someone else at her home, reports CBS Tampa affiliate WTSP-TV, citing arrest reports. The Manatee County Sheriff's Office said deputies were seeking someone wanted for carrying a concealed firearm on December 26."

"The arrest report said Barbara Pinkney met deputies at the door after another person at the home became uncooperative."

"Deputies said she told them they couldn't come in without a search warrant but they told her they didn't need a search warrant since they were executing an arrest warrant."

"The report said deputies told Pinkney she could be arrested for obstructing justice if she kept refusing to cooperate with them. At that point, she tried to shut the door on them, according to deputies."

("The arrest report said when one deputy tried to arrest Pinkney she pulled away and pushed him in the chest."

The deputy pulled out his taser and pulled the trigger, but it didn't have any effect, according to the report. So, the deputy tased her again and it sent her to the ground.

But she kept resisting, the report said, so she was tased a third time. 

Investigators said a second deputy had to jump to help restrain Pinkney.

She was arrested for alleged felony battery on a law enforcement officer and obstructing justice and released on $1,000 bond.)

WTSP reached out to the Manatee County Sheriff's Office for comment and was told to call back Monday.

There was no definite word on the fate of the person the deputies went to the home to arrest or who the person is.

But the Bradenton Herald reports that he couldn't be found and that a deputy noted that, "There was enough time during the chaos at the front of the residence for (the suspect) to get out of the rear of the residence."

(An activist group called Answer Suncoast is organizing a march to show support for Pinkney for Tuesday night.)

The lady made a spectacle of herself, as a diversion to help the suspect, whom the police officers were looking for, to get way.

So again, she deserved to be tased.

So, she broke the law by aiding, and enabling a suspect in her residence, to run from the police.

My guess is, she'll get some Liberal lawyering assistance, who will do the talking for herself, to help keep her out of any more self created legal troubles? 

MayCaesar

I will just say... That professionally trained police officers could not handle a 70 years old lady without tasing her three times, and that they let the suspect escape through the backdoor without stationing a single officer by it - that is out of Eddie Murphy's police comedy movies.

The guy who led this operation must be very embarrassed right now!

TKDB

@MayCaesar

"The guy who led this operation must be very embarrassed right now!"

Shouldn't the lady be embarrassed, for making the local news in her town, for obstructing the police officers from doing their jobs?

If I were a part of her family, I'd be embarrassed, the matriarch of their family, getting taken into custody, for being foolish?

Apparently, the person that she was protecting, is more important than the rest of her family is?

And I highly doubt that the police are embarrassed for tasing that lady.

They did their jobs, while she self earned herself a mug shot for her efforts.

Good job law enforcement, and thank you for your service, and for protecting the community, from anyone breaking the law, and getting tased, and earning a mugshot for their efforts.

ZeusAres42

MayCaesar said:

I will just say... That professionally trained police officers could not handle a 70 years old lady without tasing her three times, and that they let the suspect escape through the backdoor without stationing a single officer by it - that is out of Eddie Murphy's police comedy movies.

The guy who led this operation must be very embarrassed right now!

Not only that but the Officer should think himself lucky that tasking a woman over 70 three times didn't kill her.

TKDB

@ZeusAres42

She was obstructing the police officers work.

If she hadn't of placed her hands on the police officer, by shoving him, maybe she wouldn't have been raised.

"Not only that but the Officer should think himself lucky that tasking a woman over 70 three times didn't kill her."

ZeusAres42

TKDB said:

@ZeusAres42

She was obstructing the police officers work.

If she hadn't of placed her hands on the police officer, by shoving him, maybe she wouldn't have been raised.

"Not only that but the Officer should think himself lucky that tasking a woman over 70 three times didn't kill her."

I think there should be a law that states Police Officers shouldn't use tazers over a certain age like people over 70. A very dangerous thing to do and there are more ways to defuse a situation than to resort straight to brute force and ignorance.

TKDB

@ZeusAres42

Her blatant ignorance created her getting tased situation.

She could have pre defused the situation, by not acting in an ignorant manner.

"I think there should be a law that states Police Officers shouldn't use tazers over a certain age like people over 70."

"A very dangerous thing to do and there are more ways to defuse a situation than to resort straight to brute force and ignorance."

ZeusAres42

TKDB said:

@ZeusAres42

Her blatant ignorance created her getting tased situation.

She could have pre defused the situation, by not acting in an ignorant manner.

"I think there should be a law that states Police Officers shouldn't use tazers over a certain age like people over 70."

"A very dangerous thing to do and there are more ways to defuse a situation than to resort straight to brute force and ignorance."

And two ignorant acts = a positive do they?

MayCaesar

@TKDB

"Good job"? They failed the operation by getting stopped by a 70 year old woman. In what world does that constitute a good job? They might never get the guy they wanted to arrest now, but they did get a 70 year old lady to prosecute... What an achievement.

I have never understood people who worship the police and praise the officers for everything, including their failures. Police officers are human beings, just like everyone else, and make mistakes. There is no need to defend them when their incompetence interferes with the law enforcement duties.

Dee

@TKDB

***** Good job law enforcement, and thank you for your service,

What a truly gut churning crawling expression some Americans use to thank “ hero’s “ such as this guy who cannot handle what cops in my country do with their eyes shut without tasing , no doubt there were as usual about 20 cops surrounding the house to take down this nest of dangerous criminals 

****and for protecting the community, from anyone breaking the law, and getting tased, and earning a mugshot for their efforts.

Why not just keep saying “thank you for your service “ I remember every American talk show host used to say this to the military much most of them find objectionable and embarrassing why do you crawl and thank people for doing their paid job?

TKDB

More information on the tasing situation.

"CBS News and WFLA report that on Dec. 26, deputies came to the 70-year-old’s home to serve an arrest warrant to her grandson, Tevin Turner, on a probation violation for carrying a concealed weapon."

AmericanFurryBoy

I usually support cops, but this is just plain wrong. One officer should have just cuffed her and escorted her away from the door. Tasing her once, much less three times, was an incorrect response. Also, why didn’t they ha e officers stationed around the sides and or back of the building? Absolute idiots

MichaelElpers

@MayCaesar @AmericanFurryBoy

I think anyone resisting the police should be allowed to be tazed.  If she was standing in the doorway blocking them from entering it may have been more harmful for them to run her over in order to catch the suspect.  Also i dont really think the police should have to over power someone physically, maybe they have a knife in their pocket.  Most of the time i never feel sorry for these people, they wouldnt get hurt if they were compliant.

As far as stationing people around the house, i doubt they bring an entire crew of people to arrest someone for a probabtion violation. 9 out of 10 times its probably fairly easy.

TKDB

Her grandson was in violation of his probation for a weapons charge.

So he created a situation for himself, and for his grandmother. 

And his grandmother created a situation for herself, because she decided, I guess to give the Police a hard time, over her grandson?

So basically her grandson, and his grandmother decided to cause legal problems for themselves.

So hopefully, they both learned their lessons, regardless of their ages.

Dee

@MichaelElpers


Typically you defend the police even when they display such heavy handed tactics on a scared 70 year old woman , what is it with you that you will excuse your police  even when they up , do you think it’s somehow anti American to do so?

Idiots like @TKDB actually say “ thank you for your service “ to these worthless bully boys you seem to be on the same page ......

Barbara Pinkney of Bradenton, Fla., has been left distraught and traumatized after a horrific encounter with Manatee County sheriff’s deputies.

CBS News and WFLA report that on Dec. 26, deputies came to the 70-year-old’s home to serve an arrest warrant to her grandson, Tevin Turner, on a probation violation for carrying a concealed weapon.

“We heard a knock at the door. Actually, there wasn’t a knock. I think they kicked the door. Bam! Bam! At the door,” Pinkney told WFLA. “When he was on probation he gave this as his address, but he wasn’t living here.”

Pinkney refused the deputies’ entry on the basis that they didn’t have a search warrant, but the deputies insisted it wasn’t required since they were executing an arrest warrant.

That’s when things went left, as CBS News reports:

The report said deputies told Pinkney she could be arrested for obstructing justice if she kept refusing to cooperate with them. At that point, she tried to shut the door on them, according to deputies.

The arrest report said when one deputy tried to arrest Pinkney she pulled away and pushed him in the chest.The deputy pulled out his taser and pulled the trigger, but it didn’t have any effect, according to the report. So, the deputy tased her again and it sent her to the ground.But she kept resisting, the report said, so she was tased a third time. 

Yes, a 70-year-old woman who poses absolutely no physical threat was tased three times.

“I was just hollering. I was scared,” she said. “I didn’t know what else to do. I was just hollering.”

According to the probable cause affidavit, Pinkney was left with notable injuries after being tased in her “left arm,” “back,” and “upper back.” The deputy also used his knee to hold her against the ground before she was eventually arrested for felony battery on a law enforcement officer and obstructing justice. And to add insult to injury, this entire ordeal went down on her birthday.

“It’s not something that you see every day or something you expect to happen. Even if she wasn’t my grandmother. Dang, this is a 70-year-old woman,” said Elizabeth Francisco, Pinkney’s granddaughter-in-law, who video recorded the arrest.

On Jan. 17, Pinkney will have her day in court and thankfully, her community is prepared to fight right alongside her. Activist group Answer Suncoast will host a march on New Year’s Eve and it’s safe to assume other community efforts will be announced in the coming weeks.

MichaelElpers

@Dee No not every turn just when i feel it that theyre being judged too harshly.

The lady could have avoided all of it by just cooperating with the police.  You and others on this thread get to assume that the lady was no threat and has no weapons, while that may seem fair to you your life is not on the line.  She had already shown beligerent behavior by shoving the officer, not allowing him to come in and shuting the door. 

She was tazed once which was ineffective, 2nd to get her to the ground, and 3rd for resisting...at any point non of this would have happened without her resisting.  Tackling her may have given her worse injuries.

TKDB

@Dee

That woman's age is irrelevant.

And she got what she deserved.

No one should be placing their hands on a police officer, regardless of their age, sex, race, or nationality.

If anyone from this website, were to put their hands on a police officer, go ahead, see if any police officer, doesn't treat that individual in the same manner, that that woman got treated? 

Because talk is cheap, but anyone's negative actions, are going to earn themselves, wearing some handcuffs, getting a mugshot, the need for a Defense Attorney, and the need to pay their legal bills, along with going to court to face a judge, because someone refused to keep their hands to themselves. 

Dee

@MichaelElpers

***** No not every turn just when i feel it that theyre being judged too harshly.

Did you even read the news article?

****The lady could have avoided all of it by just cooperating with the police.  

The lady was scared they kicked her door , she assumed they needed a warrant 

****You and others on this thread get to assume that the lady was no threat and has no weapons, while that may seem fair to you your life is not on the line.  She had already shown beligerent behavior by shoving the officer, not allowing him to come in and shuting the door. 

Actually the police handled it badly by kicking her door?

***/She was tazed once which was ineffective, 2nd to get her to the ground, and 3rd for resisting...at any point non of this would have happened without her resisting.  Tackling her may have given her worse injuries.

Right so tase a 70 year old 3 times , what sort of training do these knuckle heads get ? Why not post a man at the back door where do they hire these idiots from ? 

MichaelElpers

@Dee. You dont know they kicked her door, she said it sounded like it.  The police never said they kicked the door, im assuming they just pounded loudly.

If you dont know if they have the right warrant, you say your not allowed without the proper paperwork if they lie to you that they have it and you let them in...later you sue and win.

Why not post a man at the back door...it wasnt for a hardened criminal it was just a probation violation they probably only had 2 officers so it is more than reasonable that they just walked up to the door. They probably werent even sure that he was there, just checking his address first.

ZeusAres42

Dee said:

@MichaelElpers


Typically you defend the police even when they display such heavy handed tactics on a scared 70 year old woman , what is it with you that you will excuse your police  even when they up , do you think it’s somehow anti American to do so?

Idiots like @TKDB actually say “ thank you for your service “ to these worthless bully boys you seem to be on the same page ......

Barbara Pinkney of Bradenton, Fla., has been left distraught and traumatized after a horrific encounter with Manatee County sheriff’s deputies.

CBS News and WFLA report that on Dec. 26, deputies came to the 70-year-old’s home to serve an arrest warrant to her grandson, Tevin Turner, on a probation violation for carrying a concealed weapon.

“We heard a knock at the door. Actually, there wasn’t a knock. I think they kicked the door. Bam! Bam! At the door,” Pinkney told WFLA. “When he was on probation he gave this as his address, but he wasn’t living here.”

Pinkney refused the deputies’ entry on the basis that they didn’t have a search warrant, but the deputies insisted it wasn’t required since they were executing an arrest warrant.

That’s when things went left, as CBS News reports:

The report said deputies told Pinkney she could be arrested for obstructing justice if she kept refusing to cooperate with them. At that point, she tried to shut the door on them, according to deputies.

The arrest report said when one deputy tried to arrest Pinkney she pulled away and pushed him in the chest.The deputy pulled out his taser and pulled the trigger, but it didn’t have any effect, according to the report. So, the deputy tased her again and it sent her to the ground.But she kept resisting, the report said, so she was tased a third time. 

Yes, a 70-year-old woman who poses absolutely no physical threat was tased three times.

“I was just hollering. I was scared,” she said. “I didn’t know what else to do. I was just hollering.”

According to the probable cause affidavit, Pinkney was left with notable injuries after being tased in her “left arm,” “back,” and “upper back.” The deputy also used his knee to hold her against the ground before she was eventually arrested for felony battery on a law enforcement officer and obstructing justice. And to add insult to injury, this entire ordeal went down on her birthday.

“It’s not something that you see every day or something you expect to happen. Even if she wasn’t my grandmother. Dang, this is a 70-year-old woman,” said Elizabeth Francisco, Pinkney’s granddaughter-in-law, who video recorded the arrest.

On Jan. 17, Pinkney will have her day in court and thankfully, her community is prepared to fight right alongside her. Activist group Answer Suncoast will host a march on New Year’s Eve and it’s safe to assume other community efforts will be announced in the coming weeks.

To be fair not all American cops act like this. It really depends on what part of the USA there from, the kind of police officer they are etc.  

Dee

@ZeusAres42

***** To be fair not all American cops act like this. It really depends on what part of the USA there from, the kind of police officer they are etc.   

Yes I realise this but people like @TKDB and @MichaelElpers will excuse atrocious behaviour like this as they will never find fault or call out bad policing as it’s somehow anti  American to do so 

Dee

@MichaelElpers


***** you dont know they kicked her door, she said it sounded like it.  

Right , so of course she’s mistaken 

***/The police never said they kicked the door, im assuming they just pounded loudly.

And of course your assumption must be right but hers is wrong 

*****If you dont know if they have the right warrant, you say your not allowed without the proper paperwork if they lie to you that they have it and you let them in...later you sue and win.

Thanks for the “heads up “ 

****Why not post a man at the back door...it wasnt for a hardened criminal it was just a probation violation they probably only had 2 officers so it is more than reasonable that they just walked up to the door. 

Of course but with a taser gun just in case 

****They probably werent even sure that he was there, just checking his address first.

Thanks for clearing that up officer 

MichaelElpers

@Dee Yes i dont know but i stated it as an assumption while you stated it as affirmative.

The rest of your arguments was just sarcastic name calling so i assume you couldnt provide a better argument.

TKDB

@Dee

"Yes I realise this but people like @TKDB and @MichaelElpers will excuse atrocious behaviour like this as they will never find fault or call out bad policing as it’s somehow anti  American to do so."

Atrocious behavior?

You know what, I can almost guarantee you, if that woman had "hypothetically" died because of her being rightfully tased, the NAACP, the ACLU, and Black Lives Matter, would have made nationwide wide news because of that woman, having representatives from her neighborhood protesting the actions of those police officers doing their duty to protect and serve the Public, because that is their job.

If I were to put my hands on a police officer, like she did, I'd FULLY expect to be tased, because of breaking the Law. 

Because they have a duty to perform, and to go home, after their duty hours are done, to go home to see their own grandkids, and other family members.

And if this woman, and her grandson, had any respect, for themselves, and other's, maybe neither one of them would be looking at a criminal record of some sort?

AmericanFurryBoy

@MichaelElpers
Shes a 70 yr/o woman, not a 200 pound 6’5” murderer. They could have easily moved her out of the way without even tasing her once.

AmericanFurryBoy

@TKDB
Again, what’s a skinny 70 year old woman gonna do to two police officers in their 30/40s? I don’t think fearing for their lives adequately explains their actions.

TKDB

@AmericanFurryBoy

If you have a problem with the Law Enforcement in your community, all you have to do, is reach out to the Chief of Police, or the Sheriff in your individual locality, and TELL him your grievance?

"Shes a 70 yr/o woman, not a 200 pound 6’5” murderer. They could have easily moved her out of the way without even tasing her once."

"Again, what’s a skinny 70 year old woman gonna do to two police officers in their 30/40s? I don’t think fearing for their lives adequately explains their actions."

And tell them how @AmericanFurryBoy feels? 

And I'll express this to you as well:

You know what, I can almost guarantee you, if that woman had "hypothetically" died because of her being rightfully tased, the NAACP, the ACLU, and Black Lives Matter, would have made nationwide wide news because of that woman, having representatives from her neighborhood protesting the actions of those police officers doing their duty to protect and serve the Public, because that is their job.

If I were to put my hands on a police officer, like she did, I'd FULLY expect to be tased, because of breaking the Law. 

Because they have a duty to perform, and to go home, after their duty hours are done, to go home to see their own grandkids, and other family members.

And if this woman, and her grandson, had any respect, for themselves, and other's, maybe neither one of them would be looking at a criminal record of some sort? 

@AmericanFurryBoy ; What's the point to your black and white hand gesture? 

MayCaesar

MichaelElpers said:

If you dont know if they have the right warrant, you say your not allowed without the proper paperwork if they lie to you that they have it and you let them in...later you sue and win.

Is this something we should always do when the police does something illegal? Suppose a police officer decides to to commit adultery on me against my will; am I supposed to just let it happen without resisting and later go to the court and sue the officer? If the officer has not shown any proof of their actions being legal, then they are nothing but a trespasser in a uniform as far as common sense goes.

Your argument seems to be based on the lady's actions. Yes, her actions may have been wrong. That does not excuse the gross incompetence demonstrated by the police officers, however.

MichaelElpers

@AmericanFurryBoy. If she had a weapon she could do a lot. 

Its really as simple as this, if you cooperate with police officers and dont shove them you wont experience forceful resistance.

TKDB

@MayCaesar

If you as well have an issue with the Police Officers actions, why not take it up with the Law Enforcement in your community, all you have to do, is reach out to the Chief of Police, or the Sheriff in your individual locality, and TELL them your grievance?

AmericanFurryBoy

@MichaelElpers ;@TKDB ;
Yes, in some situations, what the person did is deserving of their consequences. Trying to close the door and pushing an officer doesn’t warrant three tases. And, to your point Micheal, if she had a weapon, she probably would’ve pulled or attempted to use it instead of pushing the officer.

ZeusAres42

Dee said:

@ZeusAres42

***** To be fair not all American cops act like this. It really depends on what part of the USA there from, the kind of police officer they are etc.   

Yes I realise this but people like @TKDB and @MichaelElpers will excuse atrocious behaviour like this as they will never find fault or call out bad policing as it’s somehow anti  American to do so 

There are cops like this in lots of countries that like to abuse their power. There are even idiots like this in my country in the UK. These are the kind of cops that would not get in counter-terrorism or anything else like that nature. This also reminds me of a special forces guy in the UK once said (SAS he was ) that if a heavily armed SAS unit can complete a mission without resorting to even touching a lone sentry then you can surely not resort to kicking someone's butt because they called you some name that you didn't like. Similarly, there is no excuse for this cop behaving in this way. It' the cops that put their neck on the line every day for us that I have respect for; not the ones that kill or almost kill civilians because of some power trip.  @Dee

TKDB

@ZeusAres42

Global civilian power trips:

Suicide Bombers.

Terrorist attacks.

Citizens of a country going after the other citizens around them, with a vehicle, a knife, or a machete? 

A Citizen, or Citizens walking into a Religious Building, and killing innocent people with a firearm.

Roadside IED's in Afghanistan and Iraq? 

The millions of illegal immigrants who have come into the U.S. illegally, and have raped, sexually assaulted, and robbed, and stolen from their innocent victims, along from their journey from South of the Border, and into the U.S.? 

Some of the leaders in some countries, have used Chemical Weapons against their own citizens? 

All of the above are examples of Global Civilian Power Trips.

TKDB

@ZeusAres42

Global civilian power trips:

Suicide Bombers.

Terrorist attacks.

Citizens of a country going after the other citizens around them, with a vehicle, a knife, or a machete? 

A Citizen, or Citizens walking into a Religious Building, and killing innocent people with a firearm.

Roadside IED's in Afghanistan and Iraq? 

The millions of illegal immigrants who have come into the U.S. illegally, and have raped, sexually assaulted, and robbed, and stolen from their innocent victims, along from their journey from South of the Border, and into the U.S.? 

Some of the leaders in some countries, have used Chemical Weapons against their own citizens? 

All of the above are examples of Global Civilian Power Trips.

ZeusAres42

TKDB said:

@ZeusAres42

Global civilian power trips:

Suicide Bombers.

Terrorist attacks.

Citizens of a country going after the other citizens around them, with a vehicle, a knife, or a machete? 

A Citizen, or Citizens walking into a Religious Building, and killing innocent people with a firearm.

Roadside IED's in Afghanistan and Iraq? 

The millions of illegal immigrants who have come into the U.S. illegally, and have raped, sexually assaulted, and robbed, and stolen from their innocent victims, along from their journey from South of the Border, and into the U.S.? 

Some of the leaders in some countries, have used Chemical Weapons against their own citizens? 

All of the above are examples of Global Civilian Power Trips.

That is true. But you forgot to put on that list police brutality power trips such as cops using tools to electrocute the elderly.   @TKDB

TKDB

@ZeusAres42

"That is true. But you forgot to put on that list police brutality power trips such as cops using tools to electrocute the elderly.   @TKDB

If you, view what happened to, "Barbara Pinkney," as (police brutality) in your mind, then you are FREE, to self pander to your mindful perception over any fictional police brutality in regards to "Barbara Pinkney," all that you want to, can't you? 

You're your own guest. 

Why don't you reach out to Black Lives Matter, the NAACP, and the ACLU, and tell them all the way from the U.K., that you view the tasing of Barbara Pinkney as Police Brutality? 

Why not fly to Florida, and arrange a Protest in her name? 

ZeusAres42

TKDB said:

@ZeusAres42

"That is true. But you forgot to put on that list police brutality power trips such as cops using tools to electrocute the elderly.   @TKDB

If you, view what happened to, "Barbara Pinkney," as (police brutality) in your mind, then you are FREE, to self pander to your mindful perception over any fictional police brutality in regards to "Barbara Pinkney," all that you want to, can't you? 

You're your own guest. 

Why don't you reach out to Black Lives Matter, the NAACP, and the ACLU, and tell them all the way from the U.K., that you view the tasing of Barbara Pinkney as Police Brutality? 

Why not fly to Florida, and arrange a Protest in her name? 

If you, view what happened to, "Barbara Pinkney," as (not police brutality) in your mind, then you are FREE, to self pander to your mindful perception over any fictional reasonable acts in regards to "Barbara Pinkney," all that you want to, can't you? 

You're your own guest. 

Why don't you reach out to Black Lives Matter, the NAACP, and the ACLU, and tell them, that you view the tasing of Barbara Pinkney as justified and reasonable? 

Why not fly to Florida, and arrange a Protest in the Officers' name @TKDB

FYI, when you behave immaturely like this TKDB I'm just gonna return the favor. When you're up for returning to an actual adult discussion please let me know though. But until happy trolling @TKDB

TKDB

@ZeusAres42

, your regurgitation of my own argument to your non argument, is old hat, old news, and very Cliche of you.

Do it again?

@TKDB ;

, your regurgitation of my own argument to your non argument, is old hat, old news, and very Cliche of you.

Get your pro ZeusAres42 friends to help you out?

You could ask Barbara Pinkney to help you out to, couldn't you @ZeusAres42? 

The police officers didn't use police brutality against Barbara Pinkney, did they?

So why would I need to arrange a Protest in the Officer's name @ZeusAres42?

"Why not fly to Florida, and arrange a Protest in the Officers' name @TKDB"

More @ZeusAres42 mind games right?

ZeusAres42

TKDB said:

@ZeusAres42

, your regurgitation of my own argument to your non argument, is old hat, old news, and very Cliche of you.

Do it again?

@TKDB ;

, your regurgitation of my own argument to your non argument, is old hat, old news, and very Cliche of you.

Get your pro ZeusAres42 friends to help you out?

You could ask Barbara Pinkney to help you out to, couldn't you @ZeusAres42? 

The police officers didn't use police brutality against Barbara Pinkney, did they?

So why would I need to arrange a Protest in the Officer's name @ZeusAres42?

"Why not fly to Florida, and arrange a Protest in the Officers' name @TKDB"

More @ZeusAres42 mind games right?

, your regurgitation of my own argument to your non argument, is old hat, old news, and very Cliche of you.

Do it again?

@TKDB ;

, your regurgitation of my own argument to your non argument, is old hat, old news, and very Cliche of you.

Get your pro TKDB trolling friends to help you out?

You could ask Barbara Pinkney or even the bad-conducting officer to help you out to, couldn't you @TKDB? 

The police officers act was not good police conduct against Barbara Pinkney, was it?

So why would I need to arrange a Protest in the in the victims name @TKDB?

"Why not fly to Florida, and arrange a Protest in the Officers' name @TKDB"

More @TKDB's trolling games right?

FYI, when you behave immaturely like this TKDB I'm just gonna return the favor. When you're up for returning to an actual adult discussion please let me know though. But until then happy trolling. Also, I'm glad you admit to your immature words being vomit.
@TKDB

MayCaesar

@TKDB

I honestly do not understand what you are trying to say 99% of the time. It seems like you are throwing in random sentences somewhat associated with the topic, but having nothing to do with each other - without any particular grammar structure. It is never clear what point you are trying to make and why.

Punctuation elements, such as paragraph, question mark and comma, have very specific functions. You are not supposed to put them randomly between and at the end of sentences.

Dee

@MichaelElpers

******Dee Yes i dont know but i stated it as an assumption while you stated it as affirmative.

Incorrect I stated what the woman said , you stated it as fact you may have used the "term" assumption " but you're clearly totally supportive of the police 


******The rest of your arguments was just sarcastic name calling so i assume you couldnt provide a better argument.

What name did I call you?

I don't need a "better argument" I think it's dreadful that a 13  stone  6 foot odd policeman needs to tase a 70 year old pensioner 3 times you don't , you and @TKDB think it a fine example of American policing which demonstrates clearly your type will forgive the police anything .

TKDB

@MayCaesar

If you have an issue, take it up with Aarong? 

TKDB

@ZeusAres42

If you have an issue with, take it up with Aarong?

"FYI, when you behave immaturely like this TKDB I'm just gonna return the favor. When you're up for returning to an actual adult discussion please let me know though. But until then happy trolling. Also, I'm glad you admit to your immature words being vomit.
@TKDB. "

TKDB

@Dee

I'm pro family, and pro Community, and pro law abiding.

The lady who got tased wasn't be pro family, or pro law abiding.

She obstructed the police from doing their duty, because her grandson was in violation of his Parole over a weapons charge.

"I don't need a "better argument" I think it's dreadful that a 13  stone  6 foot odd policeman needs to tase a 70 year old pensioner 3 times you don't ,"

"you and @TKDB think it a fine example of American policing which demonstrates clearly your type will forgive the police anything ."

@Dee ;

You need a better argument than putting your word's in other peoples mouths.

If any police officer breaks the law, then they deserve to be arrested and tried for their crimes.

Just like this lady deserved to go to jail for putting her hands on a police officer.

Dee

@TKDB

***** I'm pro family,

Yet you admitted to beating your kids what part of that is “ pro family”?

 ****and pro Community,

I doubt that 

**** and pro law abiding.

Like when a 13 stone 6 foot tall  policeman kicks a 70 year old woman’s door and tases her 3 times like good law abiding should do 

** *The lady who got tased wasn't be pro family, or pro law abiding.

Right she’s protecting her family but she’s not pro family?  

****/She obstructed the police from doing their duty, because her grandson was in violation of his Parole over a weapons charge.

The police were heavy handed you troll....... . An officer tased the woman three times, including twice using the stun gun directly against her body rather than firing probes. One officer then used his knee to hold the 70-year-old grandmother to the ground. 

Two police officers fully armed it takes in the U S to overpower a 70 year old frail granny GTFO you  


****You need a better argument

I don’t agree with police brutality you do , you have no argument 

 ***than putting your word's in other peoples mouths.

How have I done this troll? 

*****If any police officer breaks the law, then they deserve to be arrested and tried for their crimes.

Yes I agree jail them 

****Just like this lady deserved to go to jail for putting her hands on a police officer.

Wow! Only in the U S are 70 year old women jailed for daring to touch a police man .....Land of the free indeed Bwaaaaaaahahahahahaha 

TKDB

@Dee

If you have an issue, take it up with Aarong?

***** I'm pro family,

"Yet you admitted to beating your kids what part of that is “ pro family”?"



 ****and pro Community,

"I doubt that"


**** and pro law abiding.

"Like when a 13 stone 6 foot tall  policeman kicks a 70 year old woman’s door and tases her 3 times like good law abiding should do."


** *The lady who got tased wasn't be pro family, or pro law abiding.

"Right she’s protecting her family but she’s not pro family?"


****/She obstructed the police from doing their duty, because her grandson was in violation of his Parole over a weapons charge.


"The police were heavy handed you troll....... . An officer tased the woman three times, including twice using the stun gun directly against her body rather than firing probes. One officer then used his knee to hold the 70-year-old grandmother to the ground."

"Two police officers fully armed it takes in the U S to overpower a 70 year old frail granny GTFO you " 



****You need a better argument

"I don’t agree with police brutality you do , you have no argument"

 ***than putting your word's in other peoples mouths.

"How have I done this troll?"

*****If any police officer breaks the law, then they deserve to be arrested and tried for their crimes.

Yes I agree jail them 

****Just like this lady deserved to go to jail for putting her hands on a police officer.

"Wow! Only in the U S are 70 year old women jailed for daring to touch a police man .....Land of the free indeed Bwaaaaaaahahahahahaha."


@Dee, your own words, are the examples  of evidence that you can present to Aarong? 

ZeusAres42

TKDB said:

@ZeusAres42

If you have an issue with, take it up with Aarong?

"FYI, when you behave immaturely like this TKDB I'm just gonna return the favor. When you're up for returning to an actual adult discussion please let me know though. But until then happy trolling. Also, I'm glad you admit to your immature words being vomit.
@TKDB. "

I take it your not ready then for a mature discussion. Shame.

Dee

@TKDB

****** your own words, are the examples  of evidence that you can present to Aarong? 

Translation from TKDB ......You’ve no defence .....As usual 

ZeusAres42

Dee said:

@TKDB

***** I'm pro family,

Yet you admitted to beating your kids what part of that is “ pro family”?

 ****and pro Community,

I doubt that 

**** and pro law abiding.

Like when a 13 stone 6 foot tall  policeman kicks a 70 year old woman’s door and tases her 3 times like good law abiding should do 

** *The lady who got tased wasn't be pro family, or pro law abiding.

Right she’s protecting her family but she’s not pro family?  

****/She obstructed the police from doing their duty, because her grandson was in violation of his Parole over a weapons charge.

The police were heavy handed you troll....... . An officer tased the woman three times, including twice using the stun gun directly against her body rather than firing probes. One officer then used his knee to hold the 70-year-old grandmother to the ground. 

Two police officers fully armed it takes in the U S to overpower a 70 year old frail granny GTFO you  


****You need a better argument

I don’t agree with police brutality you do , you have no argument 

 ***than putting your word's in other peoples mouths.

How have I done this troll? 

*****If any police officer breaks the law, then they deserve to be arrested and tried for their crimes.

Yes I agree jail them 

****Just like this lady deserved to go to jail for putting her hands on a police officer.

Wow! Only in the U S are 70 year old women jailed for daring to touch a police man .....Land of the free indeed Bwaaaaaaahahahahahaha 

I don't think some people know how Taser's carry health risks especially for the heart. And how older age also carries these health risks. And yeah, the thing is that the officer immediately resorted to tasing and doing it 3 times when there multiple other ways of handling the situation. In short this a clear case of undue conduct or at least it least it would be in other states or countries. I know for a fact that if this happened in the UK the officer would be reprimanded. @Dee.