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Inspiration For Theists
in Religion

By SwolliwSwolliw 165 Pts
One of the interesting laws of nature is that water (and most other matter) will always find the course of least resistance. You don't see water naturally flowing uphill. It will if there is an external force applied.

It's a bit like religion really, and human nature.

People tend to take the course of least resistance, Whatever they think or do. It's only natural. Which is why so many people will gravitate towards religion for an answer or reason for their existence.

After all, religion contains plenty of sensationalised fairy stories which are easy (if incredulous) to understand. "Yep that's the answer, Now I'm satisfied, So I am quite content to work my 9 to 5 job, drive a Camry and go out to McDonald's for something really neat to do". The course of least resistance.

Then there are the real go-getters in life. Are they going to go for all that story-book nonsense? No sirree, They question, They research, They extend their intellect, They go against the flow of least resistance. These people are what we call thinking atheists. They enjoy life and live life to the full for what it is rather than what it should or could be (and certainly isn't anyway).

So, Come on all you sheltered, humble religious, God-fearing wannabees. Shed your artificial cocoon of false reasoning and start to live.

Don't settle for a manufactured, junk food way of life. Come into the real world and have real fun.
Become an atheist.



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  • AlofRIAlofRI 829 Pts
    Mark Twain, a man who had a great way of expressing his thoughts said (of the Bible): "It is full of interest, it has noble poetry in it and some clever fables, some blood-drenched history and some good morals, a wealth of obscenity and upwards of a thousand lies."

    That about sums it up. For some others, it would take a whole book to say the same thing.
    Plaffelvohfen
  • markemarke 334 Pts
    Mark Twain is now reaping the rewards of a godless life.  Jesus calls sinners to repentance so they will not have to end up like Martk Twain.
    Plaffelvohfen
  • K_MichaelK_Michael 109 Pts
    marke said:
    Mark Twain is now reaping the rewards of a godless life. 
    What's that supposed to mean? Where's the evidence? Mark Twain is dead, but so is Mother Teresa. You'll never convince atheists by talking about an afterlife they can't see and disagrees with every other religions' afterlife.
    PlaffelvohfenxlJ_dolphin_473
    "We're all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." 
  • markemarke 334 Pts
    K_Michael said:
    marke said:
    Mark Twain is now reaping the rewards of a godless life. 
    What's that supposed to mean? Where's the evidence? Mark Twain is dead, but so is Mother Teresa. You'll never convince atheists by talking about an afterlife they can't see and disagrees with every other religions' afterlife.
    K_Michael said:
    marke said:
    Mark Twain is now reaping the rewards of a godless life. 
    What's that supposed to mean? Where's the evidence? Mark Twain is dead, but so is Mother Teresa. You'll never convince atheists by talking about an afterlife they can't see and disagrees with every other religions' afterlife.
    We are offering our opinions here, not scientific facts.  Mark Twain apparently did noit believe in heaven or hell.  I do.  End of story.
    Plaffelvohfen
  • SwolliwSwolliw 165 Pts
    @marke
    "We are offering our opinions here, not scientific facts.  Mark Twain apparently did noit believe in heaven or hell.  I do.  End of story."

    Epilogue:
    Mark Twain was a very learned man who was neither naive nor gullible.
  • markemarke 334 Pts
    @Swolliw

    Intelligence, fame, acceptance, honor, worship and other commendable attributes are not substitutes for scientific verification.  Twain believed what he believed by faith just as the most devout of Christians believe what they believe by faith.  Those beliefs are not scientifically observable or verifiable.
  • SwolliwSwolliw 165 Pts
    @marke ;

    "Those beliefs are not scientifically observable or verifiable."

    And "those beliefs" are not observable or verifiable by any other means because "those beliefs" are merely figments of imagination held in the minds of those who are naive, gullible and deluded.
  • markemarke 334 Pts
    Christians my call atheist beliefs figments of imagination, but Christians cannot scientifically disprove atheism because science has no power to speak on matters outside the natural realm of human observation.
  • DeeDee 2362 Pts
    @marke

    Twain believed what he believed by faith just as the most devout of Christians believe what they believe by faith


    Religious faith is defined as “ spiritual conviction “ how does that apply to Twain’s position ?
  • SwolliwSwolliw 165 Pts
    @marke
    "............outside the natural realm of human observation"

    Come on now. You made that up, there is no such thing.
    What on earth are you talking about?

  • SwolliwSwolliw 165 Pts
    @marke
    "......believed by faith just as the most devout of Christians believe what they believe by faith.  Those beliefs are not scientifically observable or verifiable."

    Wrong.
    Those beliefs are scientifically observable and most definitely verifiable.
    In fact, science has correctly labelled such "belief by faith" as "delusion".
  • markemarke 334 Pts
    @Dee

    Twain's theological beliefs had to do with his assumptions about God, which cannot be scientifically proved or disproved, just like everyone else's theological views.
    Sand
  • DeeDee 2362 Pts
    @marke

    Twain's theological beliefs had to do with his assumptions about God


    What ‘assumptions’ did he make about god that were not in the Bible?
  • markemarke 334 Pts
    @Swolliw

    Scientific observation is the central element of scientific method or process. The core skill of scientist is to make observation.

    Observation consists of receiving knowledge of the outside world through our senses, or recording information using scientific tools and instruments. Any data recorded during an experiment can be called an observation.

    The Scientific Process

    A scientific process or scientific method requires observations of nature and formulating and testing the hypothesis. It consists of following four steps.

    1. Observe something and ask questions about a natural phenomenon (scientific observation)
    2. Make your hypothesis
    3. Make predictions about logical consequences of the hypothesis
    4. Test your predictions by controlled experiment, a natural experiment, an observational study or a field experiment
    5. Create your conclusion on the basis of data or information gathered in your experiment.
    Science involves observing, testing, questioning, experimenting, interpreting, and concluding.

    When Harlen Bretz saw the Channeled Scablands (a canyon similar to the Grand Canyon) he studied the formation, gathered his data and concluded the canyon was formed by a huge flood.  His conclusions were scientific or the result of the scientific process.  Sadly, however, his conclusions were rejected for nearly 50 years by his fellow geologists before new imaging from satellites moved his critics to get on board with his scientific conclusions.

    Likewise, similar scientific conclusions about flood waters forming the Grand Canyon have been widely rejected by geologists, but not scientifically disproven.
  • markemarke 334 Pts
    @Swolliw

    Some people believe God created the universe.  Others believe the universe just miraculously happened somehow without a cause.  Others have even wilder beliefs, but beliefs are not settled science.  They are beliefs.
  • markemarke 334 Pts
  • DeeDee 2362 Pts
    @marke

    They’re not ‘assumptions ‘ they’re based on an accurate reading of gods word , try it some time 
  • SwolliwSwolliw 165 Pts
    @marke
    "Others have even wilder beliefs, but beliefs are not settled science.  They are beliefs."

    Beliefs that are backed up with common sense reason, logic, and valid evidence are facts.

    There is not one religious belief that qualifies as such.
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