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Pro abortion 101... justify killing innocent viable babies under the pretense that God supported it.
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Today's radical pro abortion politicians, and those supporting them, love using Old Testament verses, taken out of context, to justify their inhumanity to our most innocent.

They love taking verses speaking to God's wrath upon barbaric tribes and their offspring, and then equating this to the Democrat Party's support of killing viable unborn babies, FOR ANY REASON.

So lets grasp what they are saying ok? They are saying that war, and stopping evil, such as we did when dropping the A bomb on Japan, is no different then purposely killing millions of unborn babies for mere convenience.
How can rational people debate such lunacy? It is easy to spot these same Leftwing debaters pushing this lunacy, and I try not wasting my time with such obsurdity.

THE NON INTENDED DEATHS OF INNOCENT CASUALTIES FROM WAR, DOES NOT MEAN IT IS OK TO MAKE IT LEGAL TO DO SO!
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  • @We_are_accountable ;

    So are you arguing then that it is possible for mere humans in all their infinite failures to conspire against your god and ruin his plans?

    Not much of a god then is he?

    We_are_accountableliberalwithmorals
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • John_C_87John_C_87 393 Pts
    Today's radical pro abortion politicians, and those supporting them, love using Old Testament verses, taken out of context, to justify their inhumanity to our most innocent.

    They love taking verses speaking to God's wrath upon barbaric tribes and their offspring, and then equating this to the Democrat Party's support of killing viable unborn babies, FOR ANY REASON.

    So lets grasp what they are saying ok? They are saying that war, and stopping evil, such as we did when dropping the A bomb on Japan, is no different then purposely killing millions of unborn babies for mere convenience.
    How can rational people debate such lunacy? It is easy to spot these same Leftwing debaters pushing this lunacy, and I try not wasting my time with such obsurdity.

    THE NON INTENDED DEATHS OF INNOCENT CASUALTIES FROM WAR, DOES NOT MEAN IT IS OK TO MAKE IT LEGAL TO DO SO!
    You should lead with not all female-specific amputations are not abortions in the United State of immigration by all women shared equally. FYI that is worldwide not just in America. Yes for the last 150 years like woman religion has failed at creating all-woman equal, unlike women they shouldn't get helped up off the ground, a warm welcome to the preservation of the consitution, and a constitutional direction f which to follow to create all-woman equal without prejudice. Legal or religious.

    Hold your peace, before it will be held for you. There is no right given to presume all-woman guilt by law that is a risk that is politically independent.
    liberalwithmorals
  • edited July 30
    @Happy_Killbot
    Brace yourself, he'll accuse you of the morally detestable crime of watching CNN
    PlaffelvohfenHappy_Killbotliberalwithmorals
  • markemarke 334 Pts
    @Happy_Killbot

    God's plan will never be foiled.  He allows sinners to sin for a while and then He puts a stop to their crime sprees.  God is not mocked.  Whatever a sinner sows he will also reap.
    PlaffelvohfenHappy_KillbotliberalwithmoralsAlofRIOakTownA
  • @We_are_accountable
    Remember that a fetus and a baby are two different things.
    A fetus does have the potential to become a baby, but that does not mean it is a baby, or has the same rights as a baby.
    PlaffelvohfenWe_are_accountableliberalwithmoralsJustAnAllMightFanAlofRIOakTownA
  • marke said:
    @Happy_Killbot

    God's plan will never be foiled.  He allows sinners to sin for a while and then He puts a stop to their crime sprees.  God is not mocked.  Whatever a sinner sows he will also reap.
    @marke
    And I suppose it is sin not to believe in God? No matter how much of a kind, compassionate, resilient, hard-working, creative person you are, whether you go to Heaven or Hell is dictated by whether you believe in a certain imaginary friend? What a wonderful fair god we are so lucky to be ruled by!  ;)
    PlaffelvohfenOakTownA
  • @marke ;
    marke said:
    @Happy_Killbot

    God's plan will never be foiled.  He allows sinners to sin for a while and then He puts a stop to their crime sprees.  God is not mocked.  Whatever a sinner sows he will also reap.

    Okay, so then we can abort all the babies we want, carry out as many genocides as we please, Rape, Murder, steal, and have sex in positions other than missionary because this is all part of "god's plan".

    Does that sound rational to you?

    Either Your god is not benevolent, or your god is not all powerful. It can not be both.

    Besides, abortion isn't a sin IAW the bible. Doesn't mention it once.
    We_are_accountableliberalwithmoralsOakTownA
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • @xlJ_dolphin_473

    Remember that Jews and Black people are less than human according to those who supported killing them.

    Your rationale is the same used by every other group of people who have justified killing the innocent over the milleniums. You and they deny the right of life to those deemed less than human.

    Have you ever watched the ultrasound of a viable baby in the womb? To say that this living human being is not life, but rather potencial life, is inhuman denial for the sake of convenience.
    Holding onto imaginary so called missing links does nothing to excuse your selfish inhumanity towards our most innocent.
    Happy_KillbotPlaffelvohfenliberalwithmoralsOakTownA
  • xlJ_dolphin_473xlJ_dolphin_473 436 Pts
    edited July 30
    @We_are_accountable
    Yeah, but the difference here is that babies are not human until birth. They are dependent on the mother to remain alive. "Yes, but they're dependent on the mother even once they're born", you may say. My answer is: you can adopt a baby that has been born. You cannot adopt an unborn baby. The baby is dependent on their biological mother when unborn. They are, in a sense, parasites. Before you say I'm 'inhumane' and what-not, this is the definition of parasite.

    parasite (noun)
    an organism that lives in or on another organism and benefits by gaining nutrients at the other's expense.

    This describes an unborn baby.
    Edit: technically not, because the baby is of the same species as the mother, but you get my point.
    Happy_KillbotPlaffelvohfenJustAnAllMightFanliberalwithmoralsOakTownA
  • markemarke 334 Pts
    @xlJ_dolphin_473

    Abortionists believe defining an unborn baby as something other than an unborn baby proves it is not an unborn baby.  That is dishonest.

    Preemies are real babies, not zygotes.


    PlaffelvohfenxlJ_dolphin_473
  • @Happy_Killbot

    To ruin what plans? God is not some puppet master controlling our every thought or action. He gave us all free will to choose the path our lives take. His plan will never be stopped by the actions of men. There is evil in this world, as we see all around us, but good will prevail.

    You can ridicule Christians, make fun of their beliefs, call their God imaginary, etc. etc., but in the end what have you accomplished? You are no different then the bullies who insult others for their looks, or their behaviors, or their skin color, etc.

    You are the insecure who will always insult others to feel better about yourselves.


    Happy_KillbotmarkexlJ_dolphin_473PlaffelvohfenOakTownA
  • marke said:
    @xlJ_dolphin_473

    Abortionists believe defining an unborn baby as something other than an unborn baby proves it is not an unborn baby.  That is dishonest.

    Preemies are real babies, not zygotes.


    @marke
    Call it an 'unborn baby' and say that abortion is 'murder' if you like, it doesn't change my argument. It may be murder, but I believe it is justified murder. Parents have the right to have a baby, so they should also have the right to cancel the baby. With anything, for it to be fair, getting out should be just as easy as getting in.
    We_are_accountableOakTownA
  • @We_are_accountable ;

    Oh, so god doesn't have plans now?

    Seems like you have a dilemma. Either god doesn't have a plan/ is all powerful and we have free will, or god does have a plan/isn't all powerful and we don't have free will.

    Either way, the argument for abortion is strong.

    If we do have free will then it is right for us to exercise our free will and have abortions if we please.

    If we don't have free will then we were going to have abortions anyways so there is no problem there.



    I give no respect to those ideas which deserve no respect, and your ideas are at the top of the list.
    PlaffelvohfenWe_are_accountableJustAnAllMightFan
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • John_C_87John_C_87 393 Pts
    marke said:
    @xlJ_dolphin_473

    Abortionists believe defining an unborn baby as something other than an unborn baby proves it is not an unborn baby.  That is dishonest.

    Preemies are real babies, not zygotes.


    Those in favor of a constitutional right to female-specific amputation are not abortionists stop the insistence of illegal invasion of privacy by legislating the word abortion in principles of law. The united state of preemies, babies, and zygote is not been broken by the innuendo of lethal force that is necessary to secure the blessing liberty for women who have been created as equal. The staged argument is stale and does not even apply to the nations who do not hold their constitutional commitments in the legal united state those nations share.


  • @Happy_Killbot

    I long ago lost any respect for your insecure anger towards Christians.

    The human race has laws for protecting innocent life. These laws stem from Christianity as well as common sense. A viable unborn child should be protected by the same laws you I enjoy. These laws are separate from any religion. They are laws based on humanity.
    Happy_KillbotPlaffelvohfen
  • @John_C_87

    If you ever start speaking in Englis, so that people could understand you, we might respond.

    Stop saying female amputation and speak english!
    Happy_KillbotxlJ_dolphin_473
  • @xlJ_dolphin_473


    They do have the right not to have babies. IT'S CALLED BIRTH CONTROL!
    IT'S CALLED SAYING NO TO SEX IF THERE IS NO BIRTH CONTROL!
    NO ONE IS FORCED TO GET PREGNANT!
    IT'S A CHOICE! START USING IT!

    If you are too selfish to use birth control, KILLING THE CHILD IS NOT THE ANSWER!
    Happy_KillbotPlaffelvohfenxlJ_dolphin_473OakTownA
  • @We_are_accountable ;

    @Happy_Killbot

    I long ago lost any respect for your insecure anger towards Christians.

    The human race has laws for protecting innocent life. These laws stem from Christianity as well as common sense. A viable unborn child should be protected by the same laws you I enjoy. These laws are separate from any religion. They are laws based on humanity.
    And I long ago lost respect for anyone who thinks that their religion makes them morally superior.

    First off, a fetus is not human life. They do not have citizenship. They do not have rights. They are in essence, a mass of human cells. The Bible doesn't protect them. "Humanity based laws" do not protect them. They are not innocent, an unwanted fetus is an unwelcome invader in the mother's body. 

    If you want more people, lower immigration standards.

    You have to see how your own statements contradict:

    "These laws stem from Christianity as well as common sense. ... These laws are separate from any religion."

    You can't even say something that is logically consistent for three sentences! Why should anyone take your thoughts and opinions seriously?
    PlaffelvohfenWe_are_accountable
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • @We_are_accountable

    1. Abortion is a proven, reliable method of birth control...
    2. It may not be your answer, but it is a valid one regardless of your personal opinion... 
    Happy_KillbotWe_are_accountable
    " Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
  • John_C_87John_C_87 393 Pts
    @John_C_87

    If you ever start speaking in Englis, so that people could understand you, we might respond.

    Stop saying female amputation and speak english!
    We both do have the right to remain silent, as it pertains to what we say and how it can be used against us in a court of law, or military tribunal. That last part is what is called a whole truth and nothing but the truth. Female-specific amputation is the assembly of a militia by the constitutional union created by organizing a united state. It is part of a spoken grievance filed publicly addressing the abuse of privacy set by legal precedent on abortion. So, no I will not lie publicly to further the perjury now ongoing, to suit the staged idea created by obvious teamwork that by collaboration and acting abortion will ever be anything less than the serious illegal violation of privacy set by the supreme court ruling in 1973.

    @ Plaffelvohfen
    The only thing abortion has been proven to be is an illegal wholesale invasion of privacy.
    Abortion has been malpractice of law since 1973 to believe it has not also been malpractice of medicine for just as long would be wishful thinking at best. There has not been one abortion ever conducted by a medical facility. Clerical mistakes are not criminal when they are by fact clerical errors. These institutions of general welfare have every right to seek constitutional protection for themselves and the privacy of their patients by the use of female-specific amputation as a level of privacy. If you wish to continue to lobby publicly for equality between all-women stop the idea a felony crime admission must be made part of the process. It is appalling.
    Plaffelvohfen
  • @Happy_Killbot

    Hitler and Nazi's said Jews were less than human. Slave owners said Black people were less than human. You say a fetus is less than human. YOU ARE ALL SELFISH IMMORAL PEOPLE!

    Just because enough people decided that unborn lives are worthless, DOES NOT MAKE IT SO!

    IGNORE
    Happy_Killbot
  • @John_C_87

    Have you ever read contracts, written by lawyers, and wished that they would have spoken in laymen's terms so that one might better understand?

    Try it and you might have more responses. You can use your lawyer talk, and never convert one debater since they have no clue what you are trying to say.

    Yes, I'm sure the courts have used the same phrasing as you, but to the laymen, we deal in the English language of abortion vs "female-specific amputation". Those words are used to sterilize the brutality of what is going on in an abortion. They make it sound like a medical procedure rather than dismembering living human beings.

    I will call it what it is, and refuse to use the terms of Pro abortion activists.
  • @Plaffelvohfen

    Slavery was a proven reliable means of running plantations. You might not agree with it, but it is a valid one regardless your personal opinion.

    Do you see the lunacy of your words?

    There is such a thing as humanity, which weeds out all the barbaric people's opinions.
    PlaffelvohfenHappy_Killbot
  • @John_C_87

    You are aware that abortion is not an american issue, but a human one, right?
    And you are aware that US laws are irrelevant everywhere but in the US, correct? 
    That the US only represent a mere 4% of the world population?
    That "We are the world" is a song that was not to be taken literally?

    So why do you keep bringing Roe up in a debate about the morality of abortion??? You enjoy being irrelevant or what?
    " Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
  • edited July 30
    @We_are_accountable
    So basically you're arguing that we shouldn't increase the access to birth control because of slavery?
  • @We_are_accountable ;

    Prove to us a fetus is human.
    We_are_accountable
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • @Happy_Killbot
    He'd "IGNORED" us remember?
    Happy_KillbotPlaffelvohfenxlJ_dolphin_473We_are_accountable
  • @JustAnAllMightFan ;

    He just says that when he know he's lost the argument and he is in retreat.

    Its basically code for "I'm too simple-minded to think of anything useful to say, so I'm not talking to you any more"

    This guy is a total Karen.
    PlaffelvohfenJustAnAllMightFanxlJ_dolphin_473We_are_accountableOakTownA
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • @We_are_accountable

    Well, that was true before industrialisation... If slavery was legal now, it would not be nearly as efficient as modern machinery and it would be a bad business move... But I do agree that slavery did get sh!t done, I mean, look at the pyramids, a good argument in favor of it, no?

    But anyway it's beside the point and completely irrelevant to this debate, slavery and abortion can't compare as they are fundamentally different things, it's a classic straw man which tells us a lot more about the level of (or absence of) your intellectual honesty than anything else... 
    JustAnAllMightFanDeeHappy_KillbotWe_are_accountable
    " Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
  • In catholic school I learned god gives humans free will so technically he doesnt stop sinners at all. If he did I'm sure Hitler would have been taken care of a long time ago. Maybe would have put a stop to stalin. Perhaps helped out the North koreans who are murdered daily by there dictator. Nope, alsa god does not stop sinners. @marke
    xlJ_dolphin_473
  • John_C_87John_C_87 393 Pts
    @John_C_87

    You are aware that abortion is not an american issue, but a human one, right?
    And you are aware that US laws are irrelevant everywhere but in the US, correct? 
    That the US only represent a mere 4% of the world population?
    That "We are the world" is a song that was not to be taken literally?

    So why do you keep bringing Roe up in a debate about the morality of abortion??? You enjoy being irrelevant or what?
    You understand that abortion is a United state of law and an international law issue when connected to all women as a medical treatment including an American woman and not just a human issue, right? 
     The reason to quote legal precedent is over the violation of a woman's privacy not the idea of official stopping life as an advertisement to powers a woman exorcises to stop immigration on the most basic international levels.
    The "criminal way" the wrongful idea is given to instigate the stripping of that privacy.
    Globally the woman can be placed in a united state by the term female-specific amputation for medical treatments and the medical attention does not create an admission or suggestion of authority that at some point considered as some future or past use of lethal force.
    I do not see that the American woman's failures to create themselves equally by gender in America limit any work to do so internationally, there is a strong influence to stop the constitutional union from creating a consistent legal field of justice on the international level without prejudice.  
    Plaffelvohfen
  • markemarke 334 Pts
    @Happy_Killbot

    That would involve photos which abortionists refuse to examine.  Here is a 'fetus' which came out of the womb early:




    We_are_accountableHappy_Killbot
  • @xlJ_dolphin_473


    They do have the right not to have babies. IT'S CALLED BIRTH CONTROL!
    IT'S CALLED SAYING NO TO SEX IF THERE IS NO BIRTH CONTROL!
    NO ONE IS FORCED TO GET PREGNANT!
    IT'S A CHOICE! START USING IT!

    If you are too selfish to use birth control, KILLING THE CHILD IS NOT THE ANSWER!
    I said that you should be able to get out as easily as you get in. You said that you get out by not entering in the first place. This does not solve the problem.
  • markemarke 334 Pts
    @Plaffelvohfen

    Murder is a method of population control, but one which is wrong for many reasons.  Adults and child-bearing kids may want to eliminate unwanted babies but that is wrong on so many levels.



    Baby's Lives Matter.  Vote republican in 2020 to help stop the murder of the unborn.
    Plaffelvohfen
  • DeeDee 2362 Pts
    @marke

    Adults and child-bearing kids may want to eliminate unwanted babies but that is wrong on so many levels.

    Seems just fine once your god is doing it in the Bible , remember how you keep ignoring that ?
    We_are_accountable
  • markemarke 334 Pts
    @Dee

    You are in for a huge devastating shock if you think God agrees with your disrespectful misunderstanding of thye Bible. 
    PlaffelvohfenWe_are_accountable
  • DeeDee 2362 Pts
    @marke

    You are in for a huge devastating shock if you think God agrees with your disrespectful misunderstanding of thye Bible. 

    How do you know your god disagrees with me ? I think if there is a god it’s you who is in for it as it clearly states in his own words his approval of abortion in certain cases

    I know you have to lie for your god as to do otherwise leaves you morally bankrupt like him 
    We_are_accountable
  • markemarke 334 Pts
    @Dee

    Even though God is angry with the wicked every day (Psalm 7:11) He nevertheless withholds judgment on them for their sins because He wants to give them space to repent.  (2 Peter 3:8-10.)
    Plaffelvohfen
  • DeeDee 2362 Pts
    @marke

    Even though God is angry with the wicked every day (Psalm 7:11) He nevertheless withholds judgment on them for their sins because He wants to give them space to repent.  (2 Peter 3:8-10.)

    It’s obvious you’ve never even read the Bible amazing the way you excuse abortion when your god commands it , that makes you a hypocrite 
  • @Plaffelvohfen

    So you just deny the comparison and that's it? I have better things to do.
    Plaffelvohfen
  • John_C_87John_C_87 393 Pts

    You are aware that abortion is not an American issue, but a human one, right?

    Let us put it this way, the relevance of the human right of abortion in this argument is to give a woman a right to admit a medical treatment as a murder, without the trail to negate the admission, yet no worry of the invasion of privacy of the female on an internationally level. Unfound, in fact, there is no reason to pre-judge woman for a medical process that may not even be a crime but instead a tragedy of health.

    Please, remain silent as a rather large relevance in the translation of malpractice of law to malpractice of medicine takes place in your country and America. In no uncertain term’s abortion is an organization of crime, wrong that is being directly aimed at not humans but women, a group of women separated from others with prejudice of law and racial profiling at its best. Outside of religious practice can you give one legitimate legal reason why a woman by your command would need to brag publicly about the lethal force used against a child? 

  • @JustAnAllMightFan

    Remember when you censors were going to ignore my debates? What happened?
  • @marke

    These deniers will lie through their teeth to deny the undeniable. Your photo says it all, and these jokes will ignore it while continuing their deception.
  • @We_are_accountable

    I hope you have better things to do than spewing nonsense, but I think you can't help it and will persist in doing so...
    " Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
  • @marke ;
    Watch out the gap in the door! Beyond that point is a separate reality...

    I know the only me is me. Do you know the only you is you?

    PlaffelvohfenWe_are_accountable
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • @We_are_accountable

    Religious views have no merit in a government independent of religion. 


    Happy_KillbotJustAnAllMightFanPlaffelvohfenWe_are_accountable
  • @We_are_accountable
    My apologies, I can't help myself sometimes, too tempting.
  • John_C_87John_C_87 393 Pts
    @We_are_accountable

    Religious views have no merit in a government independent of religion. 


    So, what is exaggerated here in exploit, religious law can not run parallel to political law even though both are forms of human governing.
  • markemarke 334 Pts
    @Dee

    If you ask me to quote a verse I will try to do that.  But if you insist on calling me a hyp[ocrite for believing God opposes the murder of unborn babies at least you could post a verse as well.




    PlaffelvohfenHappy_KillbotWe_are_accountable
  • @marke

    Great picture that says a thousand words to these barbaric abortion supporters.
    Happy_Killbotmarke
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