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Biden threatens to pack the courts if the GOP does their Constitutional duties!

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Biden refuses to tell the voters if he would pack the Supreme court. He and the Democrat Party want to bypass the American voters. Trump was elected to appoint Justices during his FOUR years in office, not three years and eleven months.
Tonight, Biden said he would tell the people about packing the courts after finding out if the GOP does it's contitutional duty by appointing Amy Barrett. Presidents from our past have many times appointed Justices in their last year in office! To listen to Democrats, Trump is breaking the law. Oh wait, this is what these obstructionist Democrats have been saying since he took his oath of office.

Democrats have been threatening to add more Justices to over ride Trump's appointees. They are like spoiled children who just lost their stranglehold on the courts. They can not bear accepting the rule of law when it goes against their radical agendas.

Without a majority of activist justices, they could not have forced every State to change their marriage laws.
Without a majority of activist justices, they could not have forced Obamacare on our entire nation. They could not haved forced you to buy insurance by fining you thousands of dollars for refusing.
Without a majority of activist justices, they will not be able to force every public school to allow boys, who think they are girls, into our daughter's sports.
Without a majority of activist justices, they will not be able to take away our gun rights.
Without a majority of activist justices, they will not be able to allow illegal immigrants free access to our social and healthcare programs.

This is how a nation is taken over by an extreme Leftwing Party. THE COURTS!
They pack the courts with Liberal Justices who will usher in their socialist agendas. The people's voice no longer matters.

Do you have any idea how many States were against Gay marriage? Their voices were silenced by a couple Justices! This is how it will be with gun control, illegal immigration, socialized healthcare, Green new deal, Medicare for all, abortion up to birth forced on all States, etc, etc.

What would elections even mean if these corrupt politicians could simply pack the courts when they were in office? If the Democrats win this election and pack the courts with 11, 13, 15 Justices, what will the GOP do when they get elected? 17, 19, 21 Justices? Where will it stop?

Please do not allow these radical Leftist Democrats to destroy our nation. We need no more than nine Justices! To go down this road of packing the courts is insanity! The GOP won the election. They won the Senate, They won the right to appoint Justices when required to replace those who retire or die. PERIOD!
Happy_KillbotPlaffelvohfenAlofRI
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  • We_are_accountable
    " Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
  • The POTUS does not have the authority to change the number of judges in the SCOTUS, that authority is delegated to congress.

    From the SCOTUS's website:
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/faq_general.aspx#:~:text=The first Judiciary Act, passed,to a high of ten.

    +Who decides how many Justices are on the Court? Have there always been nine?

    "The Constitution places the power to determine the number of Justices in the hands of Congress. The first Judiciary Act, passed in 1789, set the number of Justices at six, one Chief Justice and five Associates. Over the years Congress has passed various acts to change this number, fluctuating from a low of five to a high of ten. The Judiciary Act of 1869 fixed the number of Justices at nine and no subsequent change to the number of Justices has occurred."

    You have been murdered by facts yet again... Maybe you just can't handle the Truth?
    PlaffelvohfenWe_are_accountableAlofRI
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • @Plaffelvohfen

    That 1st video at 2:43...

    Really should give the accountable one pause (but it won't)
    Plaffelvohfen
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • edited October 16
    @Happy_Killbot

    You just proved my point. The number of Justices should stay at nine, but the Democrat Party is threatening to destroy our entire Justice system by over riding the people's voice.

    Newsflash, the President must sign any bill coming out of the Senate! It will be Biden's vote that matters.
    Happy_KillbotAlofRI
  • @Happy_Killbot

    True, it should have given him pause, but when Saagar mentions the need for honesty, that's when he lost @We_are_accountable... That's the proverbial line in the sand he draws... 
    Happy_KillbotWe_are_accountable
    " Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
  • @We_are_accountable ;
    Should stay at 9? Nowhere is that implied and that isn't your argument. Also, the president doesn't need to sign legislation at all, unless he vetoes it it goes into law or if he does then it goes back to congress and can pass with a two-thirds majority.




    Plaffelvohfen
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • @Happy_Killbot

    Can you ever be openly honest and straight with debaters?

    The President has to sign any Bill out of the Senate. He is the deciding vote and if he vetos the Bill, it takes an enormous two third Senate vote to over ride his veto.

    He will sign a Bill packing the courts if a Democrat controlled Senate sends it to him. HE IS THE DECIDING VOTE.

    Spare me your deceptive rhetoric.

    Why must you always be fake news? Simply be honest about whatever debate topic we speak to. If you did so, I might not ignore you.
    Happy_KillbotPlaffelvohfen
  • @We_are_accountable

    Would you agree to put the question to a referendum? Bypass those pesky elected official and directly ask the population then?
    Happy_Killbot
    " Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
  • @Plaffelvohfen

    The numbers are already out. The people by large majorities do not want our Supreme court packed with additional Justices. That would turn our Supreme court into a political nightmare.

    Do you want to see our courts as partisan as our Government?

    We need no referendum by the people because the people can vote out those who are wiling to pack the courts. The people decide with their votes!

    If you do not want the Supreme court packed, vote for Republicans!
    Happy_KillbotPlaffelvohfen
  • @We_are_accountable

    So since people decide with their vote, when Biden is elected, it will be the will of the people have expressed and the packing of the court will be legitimate, right? It will be the expression of the will of the people, correct? 
    AlofRIHappy_KillbotWe_are_accountable
    " Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
  • AlofRIAlofRI 1037 Pts
    "The numbers are out." People by a large majority do not want the SCOTUS stacked with ultra-conservatives or religious zealots. They want Roe left to hell alone, (by over 70%), they want the Constitution to NOT favor a single religion, they do NOT want it politicized, they do not want it to support ANY President, they want it to be FAIR.

    They want judges that are accountable! (To the U.S. Constitution, not the evangelical reading of that Constitution)!
    PlaffelvohfenWe_are_accountable
  • @We_are_accountable ;
    Can you ever be openly honest and straight with debaters?
    Not with you. Since you are a mindless FOX news sheep, you deserve nothing but ridicule. 
    Why must you always be fake news? Simply be honest about whatever debate topic we speak to. If you did so, I might not ignore you.
    Do you think I care, that you ignore me? Your approval means less than nothing to me! 

    I see you as little more than an intellectual a punching bag. You show up here, scream something objectively wrong, everyone corrects you, then you scream "IGNORE" because you have no argument.

    If you want a "fair and honest debate" then lets have one, so I can put you in your place! Remember all the times I have suggested as much? You always back down, because you know you are wrong.

    IGNORE!
    PlaffelvohfenWe_are_accountable
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • @Plaffelvohfen

    No, millions of people are sponges wanting free stuff. Democrats pander to these people with our tax dollars. These voters will hold their noses and ingore the extremism of Democrats, AND STILL ELECT THEM!

    It's truly sickening how self absorbed so many have become. They would allow boys in our daughter's sports, packing the courts, illegal immigrants on our free healthcare plans, No restriction abortions, etc. etc. all for the almighty free give away programs from Democrats.

    We are living in a time where self supercedes all else, including inhumanity towards our viable babies. The priorities of half our nation are in the gutter.
    Happy_KillbotPlaffelvohfenAlofRI
  • @AlofRI

    The fake news fool speaks again. All of your political rhetoric fro the Left is nothing but fear tactics and lies. You waste our time as always!
    Happy_KillbotPlaffelvohfenAlofRI
  • @We_are_accountable

    Wait a sec.... I asked if asking the people directly via referendum was the best way to get the people's will and bypass parties... You said NO, that people get their will known via election...

    Now you're saying that it doesn't matter, when people vote, it's not their will expressing itself??

    You are contradicting yourself...
    AlofRIHappy_Killbot
    " Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
  • @Happy_Killbot

    Thanks for showing what a radical hateful joke you are. I will try to do better ignoring you. Funny how you stalk my every debate. If I am such a waste of time for you, why do you stalk my every debate. How about ignoring me like you say? Nah, you know I speak the truth, just as Trump is doing. You would walk over hot coals to demonize people on the Right who shine a ight on the Left's extremism.

    You are the radical fake news haters of Christians and Trump, and will lie and deceive to mock anyone on the Right. Please do ignore me because I will do the same. There could never be an honest rational debate with the likes of you. You are fake news to the extreme.
    Happy_KillbotPlaffelvohfenAlofRI
  • Happy_KillbotHappy_Killbot 3133 Pts
    edited October 16
    @We_are_accountable ;

    The radical hater thinks I am a radical hater. How ironic!

    When you and your Christian friends are done jerking Trump off, don't forget to lick his feet clean.

    IGNORE! 

    500 Trump Supporters Are Morons ideas in 2020  trump trump supporters  politics
    PlaffelvohfenWe_are_accountable
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • AlofRIAlofRI 1037 Pts
    "Funny how you stalk my every debate."  

    Actually, I've never come across one of your "debates". You just post your personal, hate-filled religious rant that everyone MUST agree with ... or be "ignored", castigated, ridiculed, or be considered one of the 60-90% that continually disagree with you. You ARE in the minority at all times, or haven't you noticed?

    That should tell you something. Maybe you should "ignore" your thoughts? You ARE accountable. It would likely make you a better person to join with the other 60-90% ... just sayin'  :kissing_heart:
    PlaffelvohfenWe_are_accountableHappy_Killbot
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