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Ted Cruz was just questioning Twitter & Facebook on their censorship and bias...

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Ted Cruz and Republicans have been trying to get Twitter and Facebook to give the statistics on how many times Republican posts are censored vs Democrat posts.

Cruz just point blank asked Twitter's CEO for that information, and he refused to do so! THAT SAYS IT ALL!

To deny the bias on these Social media sites is to deny reality. It sucks being on the side of censorship doesn't it.
I thought those on the Left hated Censorship? What ever happened to your so called ideals?

Our elections will never be honest until we rid our news outlets of their hideous bias. It goes against everything this nation was founded on. Walter Cronkite is rolling in his grave.
PlaffelvohfenAlofRICYDdharta



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  • PlaffelvohfenPlaffelvohfen 2609 Pts   -  
    @We_are_accountable

    Would you accept to let me use your porch or lawn as a podium from which to spread my far-left agenda in your neighborhood? If not, then why?
    xlJ_dolphin_473We_are_accountableDeelatexfeverAlofRICYDdharta
    " Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
  • PlaffelvohfenPlaffelvohfen 2609 Pts   -  
    @We_are_accountable

    Well, would you?? It's your chance to actually put substance in your (currently empty) argument...  
    We_are_accountableCYDdharta
    " Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
  • @Plaffelvohfen

    Gee, why do I ignore you?

    You ask mindless questions that no one has a clue to what you are saying...

    ignore
    latexfever
  • PlaffelvohfenPlaffelvohfen 2609 Pts   -  
    @We_are_accountable
    @Plaffelvohfen

    You ask mindless questions that no one has a clue to what you are saying...
    You really have no understanding of this simple question?? Let's try again...

    Can I use your property as a podium to spread my political agenda in your neighborhood?? 
    We_are_accountableCYDdharta
    " Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
  • xlJ_dolphin_473xlJ_dolphin_473 1472 Pts   -  
    @We_are_accountable
    I understand what @Plaffelvohfen is saying...
    PlaffelvohfenlatexfeverWe_are_accountable
  • AlofRIAlofRI 1412 Pts   -  
    @Plaffelvohfen

    Gee, why do I ignore you?

    You ask mindless questions that no one has a clue to what you are saying...

    ignore
    For REAL, this time????
    We_are_accountablePlaffelvohfen
  • RandomRandom 23 Pts   -  
    @Plaffelvohfen

    Gee, why do I ignore you?

    You ask mindless questions that no one has a clue to what you are saying...

    ignore
    I think your the one with out a mind buddy....

    @Plaffelvohfen's comment made complete sense...
    We_are_accountableAlofRICYDdhartaPlaffelvohfen
  • RandomRandom 23 Pts   -  
    Maybe we should ignore you, because you know, your the one with out a mind...
    We_are_accountablePlaffelvohfen
  • AlofRIAlofRI 1412 Pts   -  
    It amazes me how this ...... Senator ....... can defend the guy who insulted his wife, called his father a traitor .... even an assassin! After that, the Senator showed some well deserved "bias"! What is it this, umm, disgrace to manhood, has over people?? 

    I think they are more afraid of the evangelical backlash than they are of HIM! ( Or maybe it's the vindictiveness of both, together )  It won't stop until BOTH get out of politics.  :unamused:
    We_are_accountableCYDdhartaRandomPlaffelvohfen
  • @Random

    You said his comment made sense? Explain to the rest of us. How did that comment relate to this debate on biased censorship?

    Explain why I am out of my mind. I have debated this other baffoon many times, and have learned to ignore his childish fake news.

    I am responding to you because I have yet to determine if you are fake news. The fact that your first response to me, saying I am out of my mind, says our conversation will be very short lived.

    People who come to a debate to simply insult the person creating the debate, and never giving their opinions on the debate at hand, are jokes to be ignored.
    RandomPlaffelvohfen
  • @AlofRI

    You are the Party of Big Brother CENSORSHIP! Live with who you are!

    IGNORE
    PlaffelvohfenAlofRICYDdharta
  • @We_are_accountable

    I'm still waiting for one person on the Left to explain why you now support biased censorship in our social media. Is there one Lefty out there who can actually debate the subject? Do you all support censorship?
    PlaffelvohfenCYDdhartaAlofRI
  • AlofRIAlofRI 1412 Pts   -  
    The problem is, there IS NO PROBLEM as you wish to put it. Biased censorship is a FOX NEW exclusive .... hmmm, not really exclusive, Newsmax and a couple of other growing publishers of this rectum derived edict are heavily into it. Is there ONE RIGHTY out there who can actually admit that THEY OWN the subject?? You ALL support censorship! 
    PlaffelvohfenWe_are_accountable
  • CYDdhartaCYDdharta 1603 Pts   -  
    @We_are_accountable
    @Plaffelvohfen

    You ask mindless questions that no one has a clue to what you are saying...
    You really have no understanding of this simple question?? Let's try again...

    Can I use your property as a podium to spread my political agenda in your neighborhood?? 

    ...so you're saying Twitter and Facebook maintain editorial control over the content posted there.  Great, then they can be held liable for that content.
    PlaffelvohfenWe_are_accountable
  • PlaffelvohfenPlaffelvohfen 2609 Pts   -   edited November 2020
    @We_are_accountable

    I wanted to offer you the chance to show us (and @aarong ) that you're more than a internet pigeon that come here to strut and leave too much droppings behind...

    We could have a fun place to debate issues, but you're polluting it and make the place stink... A good business principle is to keep your business clean, a dirty and smelling place is not very attractive... I'm giving a chance to both you and the moderator to see if my money is worth giving it to @aarong...

    So, I'll ask again one last time... Can I use your property as a podium to spread my political agenda in your neighborhood?? 
    RandomxlJ_dolphin_473We_are_accountableAlofRI
    " Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
  • PlaffelvohfenPlaffelvohfen 2609 Pts   -  
    @CYDdharta

    CYDdharta said:
    @We_are_accountable
    @Plaffelvohfen

    You ask mindless questions that no one has a clue to what you are saying...
    You really have no understanding of this simple question?? Let's try again...

    Can I use your property as a podium to spread my political agenda in your neighborhood?? 

    ...so you're saying Twitter and Facebook maintain editorial control over the content posted there.  Great, then they can be held liable for that content.
    It's fallacious thinking...

    Editorial processes occur before publication, not after publication (as is the case with Twitter and such).
    xlJ_dolphin_473We_are_accountableCYDdharta
    " Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
  • RandomRandom 23 Pts   -  
    @We_are_accountable ;

    Ok, We_are _accountable, first of all your the one insulting everyone.

    Second of all I'm expanding on what @Plaffelvohfen said, would you want me to use your backyard as a place to spread my ideas?
    What if you don't accept, understand or believe in those ideas? What if those ideas put you on the bad list of another person. You wouldn't want me to spread those ideas in your backyard. What Plaffelvohfen is trying to say is the CEO does not want to share this information in order to not be disliked by either party. 

    By the way, sorry if I insulted you, but I tend to retaliate to fire with fire. Have a good day.

    -Random
    PlaffelvohfenxlJ_dolphin_473We_are_accountableAlofRI
  • We_are_accountableWe_are_accountable 1122 Pts   -   edited November 2020
    @Random

    Try being honest if you are going to apologise. You say "IF" you insulted me? LOL
    I have never insulted you since this is the first time I can remember seeing your name. So you retaliate against me when I never said a word to you? GET REAL!

    I insult the baffoons who have proven time and again that they are the most arrogant fake news insulters on this site, and I will ignore their rants most times.

    You don't like what I say to baffoons? I could not care less what you think because I also retaliate with fire against fire.

    Now that you FINALLY tried to address a post by the baffoon, how about addressing my debate? You are completely wrong about these Social media companies. They are not fair minded or impartial. They outright censor speech from the Right about 99% more often then they do the Left.

    If you don't know this obvious fact, then why are you on debate sites?

    My debate is about the one way censorship. If you have nothing else to disprove this fact, then please run along now. Ted Cruz asked Twitter to show Congress the data of how many times they have censored the Left and how many times they have censored the Right.
    TWITTER CEO  REFUSED TO GIVE CONGRESS THAT INFORMATION!

    I know first hand that most internet sites including Google, Yahoo, Facebook, Twitter, etc. etc. are biased against the Right. It's truly sickening since they pretend to be non biased. If they are going to destroy our elections with fake news and censorship, then they better let us all know so we can boycott their worthless sites.
    PlaffelvohfenAlofRI
  • PlaffelvohfenPlaffelvohfen 2609 Pts   -  
    @We_are_accountable

    You do not "debate", you rant...  What are your arguments here? 

    I'll ask again.... Do I have a right to use your property as a podium to spread my political agenda in your neighborhood?? 
    RandomCYDdhartaAlofRI
    " Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
  • CYDdhartaCYDdharta 1603 Pts   -  

    It's fallacious thinking...

    Editorial processes occur before publication, not after publication (as is the case with Twitter and such).

    Whether the editing takes place before or after publishing is completely irrelevant.
    PlaffelvohfenWe_are_accountable
  • CYDdhartaCYDdharta 1603 Pts   -  
    @We_are_accountable

    You do not "debate", you rant...  What are your arguments here? 

    I'll ask again.... Do I have a right to use your property as a podium to spread my political agenda in your neighborhood?? 

    I can clear this up for both of you quite simply.

    @We_are_accountable, are you granted special liability protection by the government for people spreading their messages, whatever they may be, on your property?
    Plaffelvohfen
  • PlaffelvohfenPlaffelvohfen 2609 Pts   -   edited November 2020
    @CYDdharta
    CYDdharta said:
    Whether the editing takes place before or after publishing is completely irrelevant.
    That's the only moment where you can begin to infer some form of liability, knowledge beforehand... Publishers are expected to have awareness of the material they publish and thus can be held liable for any illegal content they published...

    If all those platforms are to be expected to have awareness of the material they publish, it follows that

    1: They would be assumed to have reviewed the content they publish like all other publishers, and
    2: Anonymity will be a thing of the past because in order to protect themselves from lawsuits from both the right and left (as frivolous as they may be), site owners like Aarong here, would minimally have to require proof of identification of users for any possible legal procedures...

    Some kind of unique and instantly verifiable digital signature might become mandatory to use online social services, not talking IP addresses here, something incontrovertibly linking you to your legal identity and insuring liability, might well become a thing... Not that I mind that much mind you, I could live with that, heck I'd live in a microchipped society, I'd grumble of course but eh, I'm an old fart and that's what we do...  

    Section 230 is what defines a Free Internet in the US, it's the only thing keeping the FCC out... 

    Elements on both the right and the left do want to treat online platforms as publishers, both for very different and opposite reasons, and both are wrong... Be really careful what you wish for...
    CYDdhartalatexfever
    " Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
  • @CYDdharta

    Why thank you for clearing up that illiterate question. Yes, I would gladly answer your well thought out and precise question.

    If I created a business in my back yard, under the pretense of fair and equal treatment to all those utilizing my business, and then censoring people who held opposing political views to my own, I should be sued by those being treated unfairly. The problem being that these Social media companies are protected from such liability based on the assumption they would be fair to all their members.

    Our Government is finally seeing the bias and censorship from these Left wing companies, and will soon take away their protection from liability.
    PlaffelvohfenCYDdhartalatexfever
  • xlJ_dolphin_473xlJ_dolphin_473 1472 Pts   -   edited November 2020
    @We_are_accountable
    Basically, what @Plaffelvohfen is saying is don't assume that you are entitled to post whatever you want on social media. Social media is not a right, it's a privilege. If someone painted far-left propaganda on the front of your house, you would get rid of it, wouldn't you? That's what social media platforms like Twitter and Facebook are doing: removing misinformative and extreme political views.
    PlaffelvohfenWe_are_accountable
  • We_are_accountableWe_are_accountable 1122 Pts   -   edited November 2020
    @xlJ_dolphin_473

    HOGWASH FAKE NEWS!

    Do you actually believe the Leftwing rhtoric that you repeat?

    These Social media companies for some reason never find any far Left misinformation and propaganda from those who share their same political views. It is only Conservatives that are singled out for censorship! THAT'S THE ENTIRE POINT! Try sticking to the point of the concerns from Congress and people such as myself!

    We just had a coup on our Presidency in the United States! Other than Fox news, the entire TV news media joined forces in ousting a duly elected President. They spread disinformation, censoring news stories from reputive news organizations such as with the New York Post's Hunter Biden laptop scandal tieing Joe Biden to Chinese shady business connections. They blocked New York Post's accounts for daring to report this huge story! They blocked accounts of border patrol officials, and thousands of other Conservatives and Republicans. They blocked the accounts of these reputive people purely to protect Joe Biden from any bad press.

    Why is it that Twitter and others never seem to find Leftwing news stories, rumors, etc. to block? If you refuse to acknowledge the biased Leftwing media in this world, then you are not worth my time. 
    xlJ_dolphin_473Plaffelvohfen
  • xlJ_dolphin_473xlJ_dolphin_473 1472 Pts   -   edited November 2020
    @We_are_accountable
    Maybe Twitter is leftwing-biased, but that's not the point. Twitter can block whatever they want, because they are an independent entity that may have its own political views.
    Twitter can block conservatives if it wants to. Like I said, social media is not a right, but a privilege. Understand that you don't have the right to post up your conservative views wherever you want, if the website disagrees with it.
    Plaffelvohfen
  • xlJ_dolphin_473xlJ_dolphin_473 1472 Pts   -  
    Twitter used to be a free speech platform, but it isn't any more. If you want to go to a completely free-speech platform, try Parler.
  • PlaffelvohfenPlaffelvohfen 2609 Pts   -   edited November 2020
    @xlJ_dolphin_473

    In order for him to understand, he would need to possess the ability to think critically... A skill he obviously lacks... 

    All he cares about is making noise, and parroting talking points of which he doesn't grasp the underlying principles... He would tear his shirt over principles of "free market"  and "freedom of speech" but would deny the same to anyone else if it interferes with his own interests or views...

    He (and other snowflakes like him) are just bitter that their opinions are not as popular as other opinions... 
    We_are_accountable
    " Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
  • We_are_accountableWe_are_accountable 1122 Pts   -   edited November 2020
    @xlJ_dolphin_473

    Funny how you only mentioned Twitter. I said that almost ALL OF OUR TV NEWS is biased against Republicans. That is paramount to a dictatorship led State run press.

    If they come out and admit that they are in bed with Democrats, and will openly support only Democrats, and always find fault with Republicans, then I can live with that.

    These news outlets refuse to admit their bias. They pretend to be non partisan. THEIR LIES THE PROBLEM!
    Plaffelvohfen
  • anarchist100anarchist100 511 Pts   -  
    @We_are_accountable
    That's all well and good, but Ted Cruz is also a mass murderer.
    We_are_accountable
  • We_are_accountableWe_are_accountable 1122 Pts   -   edited January 5
    @anarchist100

    You say Ted Cruz is a mass murderer with no evidence to support your claim. ARE YOU FOR REAL?

    I say the people supporting mass murder are the no restriction Pro abortion politicians.
  • anarchist100anarchist100 511 Pts   -  
    @We_are_accountable
    I call him this because Texas has the death penalty, but now that I think about it's not murder in the literal sense, he's not handing out the sentences, and he wasn't the one who reinstated the death penalty, So I'd charge him with criminal negligence causing death.
    We_are_accountable
  • TreeManTreeMan 213 Pts   -  
    Are you people actually having a debate on TED CRUZ???? Ted Cruz, as evidence against global warming, got a piece of snow from outside to prove that there is no climate change. 
  • We_are_accountableWe_are_accountable 1122 Pts   -  
    @anarchist100

    So you want to protect mass murderer's right to life, but do not care when innocent unborn viable babies are killed.

    Time to ignore!
  • anarchist100anarchist100 511 Pts   -  
    @We_are_accountable
    How many times do I have to tell you? I HAVE NO OPINION ON ABORTION!
  • We_are_accountableWe_are_accountable 1122 Pts   -  
    @anarchist100

    LOL, then you support it by your silence. Stop pretending you are not responsibile for every baby's death when you refuse to stand up and speak out, the same way you speak out for the lives of mass murderer's.
  • anarchist100anarchist100 511 Pts   -   edited January 6
    @We_are_accountable
    Why do you think the issue of abortion is so simple? IT'S NOT.
    We_are_accountableTreeMan
  • We_are_accountableWe_are_accountable 1122 Pts   -  
    @anarchist100

    What's so hard about protecting innocent life? You want to protect mass murderers!

    The issue of abortion is simple for those of us living in a world of humanity. Convenience abortions can never be accepted in a civilized society. Since when does a woman's convenience supercede a life?

    We have wonderful birth control today. There is no reason for the vast majority of unwanted pregnancies.
    TreeMan
  • anarchist100anarchist100 511 Pts   -   edited January 6
    @We_are_accountable
    It's not about convenience, The right to make decisions about ones own body is a fundamental right, although the right to not be killed is also a right so the two things collide, also there would be no need for abortion if you conservatives would just let schools (or do it your self) tell your kids about sex!
    We_are_accountableTreeMan
  • We_are_accountableWe_are_accountable 1122 Pts   -  
    @anarchist100

    You are repeating the same tired hogwash I've heard from every Pro choicer I've ever talked to.

    There are TWO bodies involved! Not just the mothers! She has no right to dismember that other body inside her!

    Think of that girl baby who has a right to her own uterous. She has a right to LIFE as much as the mother!

    If the mother's life in danger, then that would be the mother's choice to make a horrible decision. Thankfully with modern medicine today, Life of mother abortions are very very rare.
    TreeMan
  • anarchist100anarchist100 511 Pts   -   edited January 6
    @We_are_accountable
    You seem to be ignoring everything I said other then the stuff that makes me seem pro choice, I SAID THAT THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE INVOLVED! For the last time I'm not pro choice! You people are so biased that you seem to hate any opinion on the issue that is not pro life. I get the same bias, emotional response from pro choice people!
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