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Pro-Trump protestors storm capitol building interfering with the voting process of Joe Biden

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Trump bois STILL mad and can't take they L that Trump lost :bawling: :bawling: when Hillary lost, people on the left NEVA did nothin like that, 2021 look at em now, who's butthurt? lowkey shii looked like a movie they should make a parody based off it. How y'all feeling? Tryna stop Joe from winnin they BIG mad 

Hollywood condemns Trump mob at the DC Capitol - Los Angeles Times
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  • DeeDee 3307 Pts   -  
    Happy_KillbotPlaffelvohfenVVSvicJustAnAllMightFanGeorge_Horse
  • Debater123Debater123 272 Pts   -   edited January 7
    VVSvic said:
    Trump bois STILL mad and can't take they L that Trump lost :bawling: :bawling: when Hillary lost, people on the left NEVA did nothin like that, 2021 look at em now, who's butthurt? lowkey shii looked like a movie they should make a parody based off it. How y'all feeling? Tryna stop Joe from winnin they BIG mad 

    Hollywood condemns Trump mob at the DC Capitol - Los Angeles Times
    I hardly understood your grammar but I'll give it a go.

    What is the point of this debate?
  • Happy_KillbotHappy_Killbot 3849 Pts   -  
    @Debater123 ;
    I hardly understood your grammar but I'll give it a go.

    What is the point of this debate?
    The point is to p!$$ off anyone who associates with these actually fascist Trump supporters.

    If you think what these people are doing is okay, then you are anti-American, anti-liberal, and anti-democracy.

    So, either you reject these F***ers in order to preserve any credibility for the conservative movement, or make yourself look like an A$$. Your choice.
    VVSvicPlaffelvohfenDeejeleysexlJ_dolphin_473
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • AlofRIAlofRI 1219 Pts   -  
    @We_are_accountable said, "What is the point of this debate?"

    "We_" doesn't make debates, S/HE makes sick statements with "points" few, if any, care about. 

    Here, another person is making statements ANY AMERICAN should care about! Why don't you "give THAT a go" ??

    I'm so happy that my Christian friends and relatives don't usually make the sick statements those_accountable_ones on here and other sites make. I'd have to hate Christianity. I'm not a believer, but, can I say ... "thank god I don't have to hate all Christians"??   :relieved:
    VVSvicPlaffelvohfen
  • Debater123Debater123 272 Pts   -   edited January 7
    @Debater123 ;
    I hardly understood your grammar but I'll give it a go.

    What is the point of this debate?
    The point is to p!$$ off anyone who associates with these actually fascist Trump supporters.

    If you think what these people are doing is okay, then you are anti-American, anti-liberal, and anti-democracy.

    So, either you reject these F***ers in order to preserve any credibility for the conservative movement, or make yourself look like an A$$. Your choice.
    'The point is to p!$$ off anyone who associates with these actually fascist Trump supporters.' You, as a socialist, and left-winger, are infinitely closer to fascism than us.

    'If you think what these people are doing is okay, then you are anti-American, anti-liberal, and anti-democracy.

    So, either you reject these F***ers to preserve any credibility for the conservative movement, or make yourself look like an A$$. Your choice.' I do reject them, but quick question, do you reject the BLM rioters?
    PlaffelvohfenDeeHappy_KillbotVVSvic
  • DeeDee 3307 Pts   -   edited January 7
    @Debater123

    What is the point of this debate?

    Just to remind you and other cry babies that Trump took a whipping .......yeeeeee haaaa
    Happy_KillbotPlaffelvohfenVVSvic
  • Happy_KillbotHappy_Killbot 3849 Pts   -  
    @Debater123 ;
    You, as a socialist, and left-winger, are infinitely closer to fascism than us.
    I'm not a socialist, I'm a technocrat.
    I do reject them, but quick question, do you reject the BLM rioters?
    Nice whataboutisms kid, really showing a grade A ability to stay on topic here.

    BLM was a predominantly peaceful movement with rioters only making up a very small minority of the group, and many of the rioters weren't even associated with BLM at all. Meanwhile, people are died in the capital no less because Trump supporters reject Joe Biden as a duly elected president!
    DeePlaffelvohfenxlJ_dolphin_473uhmsophie
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • Debater123Debater123 272 Pts   -  
    @Debater123 ;
    You, as a socialist, and left-winger, are infinitely closer to fascism than us.
    I'm not a socialist, I'm a technocrat.
    I do reject them, but quick question, do you reject the BLM rioters?
    Nice whataboutisms kid, really showing a grade A ability to stay on topic here.

    BLM was a predominantly peaceful movement with rioters only making up a very small minority of the group, and many of the rioters weren't even associated with BLM at all. Meanwhile, people are died in the capital no less because Trump supporters reject Joe Biden as a duly elected president!
    'technocrat' What is your stance on a free market?

    'BLM was a predominantly peaceful movement with rioters only making up a very small minority of the group,' Sure 7% of BLM goes violent, but if I stomp on your foot, only 7% of your body is in pain.

    'and many of the rioters weren't even associated with BLM at all.' However, most were.
    VVSvic
  • Happy_KillbotHappy_Killbot 3849 Pts   -  
    @Debater123 ;
    What is your stance on a free market?
    Irrelevant to this thread.
    Sure 7% of BLM goes violent, but if I stomp on your foot, only 7% of your body is in pain.
    That's a false analogy.
    However, most were.
    The pro-Trump protesters were still pro-Trump, and doing this specifically because Joe Biden won the election, and they killed people over that in blatant disregard of everything the US stands for. At the very least, the BLM movement is aligned with US ideals of equality and freedom, where these fascist authoritarians are directly opposed to it.
    PlaffelvohfenVVSvic
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • Debater123Debater123 272 Pts   -  
    @Debater123 ;
    What is your stance on a free market?
    Irrelevant to this thread.
    Sure 7% of BLM goes violent, but if I stomp on your foot, only 7% of your body is in pain.
    That's a false analogy.
    However, most were.
    The pro-Trump protesters were still pro-Trump, and doing this specifically because Joe Biden won the election, and they killed people over that in blatant disregard of everything the US stands for. At the very least, the BLM movement is aligned with US ideals of equality and freedom, where these fascist authoritarians are directly opposed to it.
    'That's a false analogy.' It's a true one.

    'Irrelevant to this thread.' You once again avoided the question, BRAVO.

    'At the very least, the BLM movement is aligned with US ideals of equality and freedom' No it isn't, they demand reparations from people with less melon than them, how does this go by the American ideals of Equality?? When have they argue for Equality or Freedom, of all things!

    'where these fascist authoritarians are directly opposed to it.' Who are the fascist authoritarians? The Marxists or the Trump Supporters?! Trump and the Guys at the capital are far less close to fascism than you and the rest of the left.

    Stop calling everyone you disagree with a fascist and look in the mirror, you and your comrades are the embodiment of it, you cancel and shut up your opposition, you plan to rewrite history, you intend to oppress us, you intend to bring stability and division to further your agenda, you are collectivist by nature, you defend socialism and see it better than capitalism. All around you are far more close to fascism than us.
    VVSvic
  • Happy_KillbotHappy_Killbot 3849 Pts   -  
    @Debater123 ;
    No it isn't, they demand reparations from people with less melon than them, how does this go by the American ideals of Equality?? When have they argue for Equality or Freedom, of all things!
    IDK what melons have to do with this, but the legacy of slavery endures, how else can you explain the predominantly black prison population, the lower socioeconomic status of black communities, and the health disparities between white and black families?

    The BLM movement is all about equality and freedom, if you don't know that then all it means is that you haven't bothered to listen, which isn't their fault now is it?
    Who are the fascist authoritarians? The Marxists or the Trump Supporters?! Trump and the Guys at the capital are far less close to fascism than you and the rest of the left.
    The Trump supporters all the way, they want a "strong man" (Trump) to save them from government oppression, that's the definition of authoritarianism. Fascism, is still a right-wing ideology.
    Stop calling everyone you disagree with a fascist and look in the mirror, you and your comrades are the embodiment of it, you cancel and shut up your opposition, you plan to rewrite history, you intend to oppress us, you intend to bring stability and division to further your agenda, you are collectivist by nature, you defend socialism and see it better than capitalism. All around you are far more close to fascism than us.
    You want a strong man to save you from the voting majority. That's authoritarian. Collectivism is not authoritarian. Socialism is not authoritarian. Socialists are not fascists. Many fascists are Trump supporters. You rely on a history that never happened (the bible, torah). Trump supporters want division with their incessant "left wing evil, right wing good" rhetoric. We don't "shutup" the opposition, the media which is privately owned does that, which in case you missed the memo: is what the right wing stands for. Leopards ate your face, and you have no one to blame but yourselves for voting for these big-business tycoon pawns. You think you need to blame "the left" because that is sole way to avoid blaming yourself.
    VVSvicPlaffelvohfenjeleyse
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • Debater123Debater123 272 Pts   -   edited January 7
    @Debater123 ;
    No it isn't, they demand reparations from people with less melon than them, how does this go by the American ideals of Equality?? When have they argue for Equality or Freedom, of all things!
    IDK what melons have to do with this, but the legacy of slavery endures, how else can you explain the predominantly black prison population, the lower socioeconomic status of black communities, and the health disparities between white and black families?

    The BLM movement is all about equality and freedom, if you don't know that then all it means is that you haven't bothered to listen, which isn't their fault now is it?
    Who are the fascist authoritarians? The Marxists or the Trump Supporters?! Trump and the Guys at the capital are far less close to fascism than you and the rest of the left.
    The Trump supporters all the way, they want a "strong man" (Trump) to save them from government oppression, that's the definition of authoritarianism. Fascism, is still a right-wing ideology.
    Stop calling everyone you disagree with a fascist and look in the mirror, you and your comrades are the embodiment of it, you cancel and shut up your opposition, you plan to rewrite history, you intend to oppress us, you intend to bring stability and division to further your agenda, you are collectivist by nature, you defend socialism and see it better than capitalism. All around you are far more close to fascism than us.
    You want a strong man to save you from the voting majority. That's authoritarian. Collectivism is not authoritarian. Socialism is not authoritarian. Socialists are not fascists. Many fascists are Trump supporters. You rely on a history that never happened (the bible, torah). Trump supporters want division with their incessant "left wing evil, right wing good" rhetoric. We don't "shutup" the opposition, the media which is privately owned does that, which in case you missed the memo: is what the right wing stands for. Leopards ate your face, and you have no one to blame but yourselves for voting for these big-business tycoon pawns. You think you need to blame "the left" because that is sole way to avoid blaming yourself.
    'melons ' You know, melon, I might've misspelled it or forgotten the name(I'm pretty sure it's that), but it dictates how dark your skin is.

    'The BLM movement is all about equality and freedom, if you don't know that then all it means is that you haven't bothered to listen, which isn't their fault now is it?' I have, nothing about them is about equality or FREEDOM, of all things.

    ', how else can you explain the predominantly black prison population, the lower socioeconomic status of black communities, and the health disparities between white and black families?' Black people commit more crimes, because they have a huge single-mother population, because of the welfare system, which black people have become reliant on.

    'The Trump supporters all the way, they want a "strong man" (Trump) to save them from government oppression, that's the definition of authoritarianism.' Stopping government oppression is the opposite of authoritarianism.

    'Fascism is still a right-wing ideology.' It's not, however, as a compromise between our two definitions of the right and the left, they are individualist and collectivist respectively, meaning that fascism is on the left, also explain how fascism, a form of socialism, is on the right.

    'You want a strong man to save you from the voting majority' No I don't.

    'Collectivism is not authoritarian.' I agree, there is the existence of liberal collectivist countries.

    'Socialism is not authoritarian.' Yes, they are, in every socialist nation and philosophy.

    'Socialists are not fascists' But fascists are socialists.

    'Many fascists are Trump supporters.' So? Many Biden supporters are fascists

    'You rely on a history that never happened (the bible, Torah).' According to what is it false?

    'Trump supporters want division with their incessant "left-wing evil, right-wing good" rhetoric' Look in the mirror.

    'We don't "shut up" the opposition, the media which is privately owned does that, which in case you missed the memo' The media is on the left, and they shut people up.

    ' and you have no one to blame but yourselves for voting for these big-business tycoon pawns.' And who are they? Trump?(xD)
  • DeeDee 3307 Pts   -   edited January 7
    @Debater123

     You know, melon, I might've misspelled it or forgotten the name(I'm pretty sure it's that), but it dictates how dark your skin is.


    Bwaaaaaaahahahahahaha there I was mocking George W Bush then Trump for gross s-t-u-p-i-d-i-t-y  and you come up with this ......I cannot read anymore .......”Melon” LOL 
    Debater123Happy_Killbotjeleyse
  • Happy_KillbotHappy_Killbot 3849 Pts   -  
    @Debater123 ;
    I have, nothing about them is about equality or FREEDOM, of all things.
    Yeah, keeping blacks out of prison? Not freedom.
    Black people commit more crimes, because they have a huge single-mother population, because of the welfare system, which black people have become reliant on.
    There wouldn't be so many black single mothers if their fathers weren't in prison.
    Stopping government oppression is the opposite of authoritarianism.
    When you are stopping government oppression by instituting a "strong man" then it is.
    It's not, however, as a compromise between our two definitions of the right and the left, they are individualist and collectivist respectively, meaning that fascism is on the left, also explain how fascism, a form of socialism, is on the right.
    Individualism and collectivism don't define the right and the left. There are left wing individualist ideologies, and right wing collectivist ideologies. The left-right is about economics, and sometimes culture.
    No I don't.
    Then don't support Trump.
     Yes, they are, in every socialist nation and philosophy.
    Bernie Sanders is less authoritarian than Joe Biden.
    But fascists are socialists.
    Fascisms and socialism are diametrically opposed. Read a book.
    So? Many Biden supporters are fascists
    But it is almost none when compared to the number who support Trump such as those who raided the capital.
    According to what is it false?
    Read a book about it, or any of the lectures on this.
    The media is on the left, and they shut people up.
    Which would be in their rights to do IAW right-wing economics. They are private organizations, and therefore have the freedom to do what they please, including making right-wing authoritarian Trump supporters shutup.
    And who are they? Trump?
    Who wrote the Art of the deal? Who is a billionaire businessman? Who found his fame in reality TV? Who ran for office on a platform of being outside the government?

    If not Trump? Then who?
    Plaffelvohfen
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • Debater123Debater123 272 Pts   -  
    @Happy_Killbot
    'Yeah, keeping blacks out of prison? Not freedom.' BLM isn't trying to do that, they are trying to find external scapegoats rather than trying to fix internal problems.

    'There wouldn't be so many black single mothers if their fathers weren't in prison.' The fathers wouldn't have been with their children in the first place probably if they are in prison.

    'When you are stopping government oppression by instituting a "strong man" then it is.' How would you define a 'strong man' Killbot?

    'Individualism and collectivism don't define the right and the left. There are left-wing individualist ideologies and right-wing collectivist ideologies. The left-right is about economics, and sometimes culture.' I agree partially, left-wing ideologies are less individualist the right-wing ones, and right-wing ideologies are less collectivist than left-wing ones, however, the two terms are economic and culture, and I agree with that, however, the terms of 'individualistic' and 'collectivist' apply there as well.

    'Then don't support Trump.' I gave reasons why in a separate thread, you can look there[Top 3 US Presidents]?

    'Fascism and socialism are opposed. Read a book.' They arent, Fascism is a known form of socialism https://finance.townhall.com/columnists/jimhuntzinger/2018/11/21/fascism-is-socialism-heres-the-proof-n2536334.

    'Bernie Sanders is less authoritarian than Joe Biden.' I beg to differ, Bernie Sanders vows to hurt our rights then Joe Biden.

    'But it is almost none when compared to the number who support Trump such as those who raided the capital.' Who says they are Fascists? They share no similarity to Fascists apart from Nationalism, furthermore, I would like to add many prominent Fascists such as Richard Spenser support Biden over Trump.

    'Read a book about it or any of the lectures on this.' Give me sources, give me facts, give me a reason, give me the evidence! For crying out loud! If you make a claim, prove it!

    'Which would be in their rights to do IAW right-wing economics.' It is, doesn't mean I can't complain.

    'If not Trump? Then who?' What big business is Trump a pawn of?
    PlaffelvohfenVVSvic
  • Happy_KillbotHappy_Killbot 3849 Pts   -  
    @Debater123 ;

    Hey, good for you. You finally learned how to tag people.
    BLM isn't trying to do that, they are trying to find external scapegoats rather than trying to fix internal problems.
    Says who? You? You didn't listen to the BLM movement.
    The fathers wouldn't have been with their children in the first place probably if they are in prison.
    They probably wouldn't be in prison if it weren't for racist cops. Sounds like a non-starter to me.
    How would you define a 'strong man' Killbot?
    In political discourse, a "strong man" is one who's voice and platform is there with the explicit intent of limiting the power of others. Basically, it is accepting or advocating for someone who can stand up to and remove corruption when and where necessary. For example, Putin's supporters in Russia want him to stand up to the oligarchs who exploit the people, so Putin is a strong man. Since Trump supporters are looking for the same thing from Trump in demands of a "small government" they look to Trump as a "strong man". This is textbook authoritarianism.
    however, the terms of 'individualistic' and 'collectivist' apply there as well.
    They do not in any regards. Mussolini's Italy was right-wing collectivist. The prohibition party in the US was left-wing individualist.
    They arent, Fascism is a known form of socialism
    Literally everything in that thread has been debunked. You know this opinion article is high quality when it says things like this: "Lew Rockwell reveals collectivism is a lie, and a lie from Lucifer himself because only the individual with God can build true prosperity." This is more evangelical non-sense.
    I beg to differ, Bernie Sanders vows to hurt our rights then Joe Biden.
    Removing rights does not an authoritarian make. Counterintuitively, removing rights means more freedoms.
    Who says they are Fascists? They share no similarity to Fascists apart from Nationalism, furthermore, I would like to add many prominent Fascists such as Richard Spenser support Biden over Trump.
    They do, for one. To say there are no other parallels except nationalism is insane considering they just stormed the capital. I mean, Slavoj Zizek who is an actual Marxist endorsed Trump so how do you feel about that?
     Give me sources, give me facts, give me a reason, give me the evidence! For crying out loud! If you make a claim, prove it!
    On the failures of bible history? The book that says the world was created in a week and is only 6,000 years old? The book that claims the Pharaoh just let slaves go? The book that claims all language came when some guys built to high? The book that claims the world was completely flooded at one point? Give me a break. This is so ubiquitous in this modern day and age it's not even worth engaging with.
    It is, doesn't mean I can't complain.
    Leopards ate your face.
     What big business is Trump a pawn of?
    You read that backwards. What I am saying is that politicians are pawns of business men like Trump.
    PlaffelvohfenVVSvic
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • anarchist100anarchist100 215 Pts   -  
    GO TRUMPIES!!!!
    VVSvic
  • Happy_KillbotHappy_Killbot 3849 Pts   -  
    @Dee ;

    Seriously, that "melon" thing, I actually don't know if this is an honest mistake or actually racist. 

    Planet Watermelon  Thats Racist  Know Your Meme
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • Cringe_TrainCringe_Train 155 Pts   -   edited January 7
    @VVSvic

    This (Trump and MAGA) reminds me of that kid who calls hacks after dying once in CSGO
  • Debater123Debater123 272 Pts   -  
    @Debater123 ;

    Hey, good for you. You finally learned how to tag people.
    BLM isn't trying to do that, they are trying to find external scapegoats rather than trying to fix internal problems.
    Says who? You? You didn't listen to the BLM movement.
    The fathers wouldn't have been with their children in the first place probably if they are in prison.
    They probably wouldn't be in prison if it weren't for racist cops. Sounds like a non-starter to me.
    How would you define a 'strong man' Killbot?
    In political discourse, a "strong man" is one who's voice and platform is there with the explicit intent of limiting the power of others. Basically, it is accepting or advocating for someone who can stand up to and remove corruption when and where necessary. For example, Putin's supporters in Russia want him to stand up to the oligarchs who exploit the people, so Putin is a strong man. Since Trump supporters are looking for the same thing from Trump in demands of a "small government" they look to Trump as a "strong man". This is textbook authoritarianism.
    however, the terms of 'individualistic' and 'collectivist' apply there as well.
    They do not in any regards. Mussolini's Italy was right-wing collectivist. The prohibition party in the US was left-wing individualist.
    They arent, Fascism is a known form of socialism
    Literally everything in that thread has been debunked. You know this opinion article is high quality when it says things like this: "Lew Rockwell reveals collectivism is a lie, and a lie from Lucifer himself because only the individual with God can build true prosperity." This is more evangelical non-sense.
    I beg to differ, Bernie Sanders vows to hurt our rights then Joe Biden.
    Removing rights does not an authoritarian make. Counterintuitively, removing rights means more freedoms.
    Who says they are Fascists? They share no similarity to Fascists apart from Nationalism, furthermore, I would like to add many prominent Fascists such as Richard Spenser support Biden over Trump.
    They do, for one. To say there are no other parallels except nationalism is insane considering they just stormed the capital. I mean, Slavoj Zizek who is an actual Marxist endorsed Trump so how do you feel about that?
     Give me sources, give me facts, give me a reason, give me the evidence! For crying out loud! If you make a claim, prove it!
    On the failures of bible history? The book that says the world was created in a week and is only 6,000 years old? The book that claims the Pharaoh just let slaves go? The book that claims all language came when some guys built to high? The book that claims the world was completely flooded at one point? Give me a break. This is so ubiquitous in this modern day and age it's not even worth engaging with.
    It is, doesn't mean I can't complain.
    Leopards ate your face.
     What big business is Trump a pawn of?
    You read that backwards. What I am saying is that politicians are pawns of business men like Trump.
    'You read that backward. What I am saying is that politicians are pawns of businessmen like Trump.' You literally said I elected a big business pawn, no, you read what you said back-wards.

    'Says who? You? You didn't listen to the BLM movement.' I've looked on their website at least a dozen times.

    'They probably wouldn't be in prison if it weren't for racist cops. Sounds like a non-starter to me.' According to what are most court cases against black people corrupt and racist.

    'In political discourse, a "strong man" is one who's voice and platform is there with the explicit intent of limiting the power of others.' Trump is not that.

    'The prohibition party in the US was a left-wing individualist.' They were right-wing conservatives.

    'They do not in many regards. Mussolini's Italy was right-wing collectivist.' This again? Listen, even your own definitions of right and left contradict this, Fascism is on the left since they Nationalize private business, incorporating them into the government.

    Fascism is also still socialist, Mussolini redistributed wealth and the government set the forceful equality of all individuals to serve the nations, this is just socialism with more natioanilsm.

    'Literally, everything in that thread has been debunked. You know this opinion article is high quality when it says things like this: "Lew Rockwell reveals collectivism is a lie, and a lie from Lucifer himself because only the individual with God can build true prosperity." This is more evangelical non-sense.' The first paragraph was the part I meant for you to read and was my argument.

    'Removing rights does not an authoritarian make.' English, please.

    'Counterintuitively, removing rights means more freedoms.' Okay, you officially have two brain cells, I can't even, comprehend the stupidity of this statement, RIGHTS are FREEDOMS, look at the goddamn definition https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/right  vs https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/freedoms definition 2.

    'I mean, Slavoj Zizek who is an actual Marxist endorsed Trump so how do you feel about that?' I would be confused as to why he would, Trump is the embodiment of anti-socialism and anti-communism and therefore anti-marxism, however, he did say he was horrible, however, why he supported him over Trump is beyond me.

    'The book that says the world was created in a week and is only 6,000 years old?' Those were metaphors and wisdom on life, I don't take it as fact.

    'The book that claims the Pharaoh just let slaves go?' They didn't, actually, read the story.

    'The book that claims the world was completely flooded at one point?' There is actually major evidence of a massive flood around the black sea area, so by world God probably meant the world known to the Israelites.
  • Debater123Debater123 272 Pts   -  
    GO TRUMPIES!!!!
    Typical anarchist, why are you even one?
    VVSvicTreeMan
  • Happy_KillbotHappy_Killbot 3849 Pts   -  
    @Debater123 ;

    You literally said I elected a big business pawn, no, you read what you said back-wards.
    Yes, You elected big business pawns, as in pawns of big business. 
    I've looked on their website at least a dozen times.
    and read it exactly 0 times apparently. 
    According to what are most court cases against black people corrupt and racist.
    The data that shows more black people in prison then their representation in the general public.
    Trump is not that.
    Do you want small government? Did Trump not run on a platform of "draining the swamp"? Is Trump not seen as the guy who "tells it like it is"?
    They were right-wing conservatives.
    Sort of. They were left-wing economically, right wing socially, and progressive ideologically.
    This again? Listen, even your own definitions of right and left contradict this, Fascism is on the left since they Nationalize private business, incorporating them into the government.
    Fascism doesn't nationalize businesses, they privatize them.
     The first paragraph was the part I meant for you to read and was my argument.
    Cherry pick'n I see.
    English, please.
    That is English.
    Okay, you officially have two brain cells, I can't even, comprehend the stupidity of this statement, RIGHTS are FREEDOMS, look at the
    What about the right to enslave people? That would limit freedoms wouldn't it? Liberalism is literally built on this idea.
     I would be confused as to why he would, Trump is the embodiment of anti-socialism and anti-communism and therefore anti-marxism, however, he did say he was horrible, however, why he supported him over Trump is beyond me.
    Weird.
     Those were metaphors and wisdom on life, I don't take it as fact.
    Yeah, the whole thing is a metaphor how about that? No historical accuracy whatsoever.
    They didn't, actually, read the story.
    Historically, it never happened at all.
    There is actually major evidence of a massive flood around the black sea area, so by world God probably meant the world known to the Israelites.
    A Black sea flood does not a flood of the whole world, make.
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • Debater123Debater123 272 Pts   -  
    @Debater123 ;

    You literally said I elected a big business pawn, no, you read what you said back-wards.
    Yes, You elected big business pawns, as in pawns of big business. 
    I've looked on their website at least a dozen times.
    and read it exactly 0 times apparently. 
    According to what are most court cases against black people corrupt and racist.
    The data that shows more black people in prison then their representation in the general public.
    Trump is not that.
    Do you want small government? Did Trump not run on a platform of "draining the swamp"? Is Trump not seen as the guy who "tells it like it is"?
    They were right-wing conservatives.
    Sort of. They were left-wing economically, right wing socially, and progressive ideologically.
    This again? Listen, even your own definitions of right and left contradict this, Fascism is on the left since they Nationalize private business, incorporating them into the government.
    Fascism doesn't nationalize businesses, they privatize them.
     The first paragraph was the part I meant for you to read and was my argument.
    Cherry pick'n I see.
    English, please.
    That is English.
    Okay, you officially have two brain cells, I can't even, comprehend the stupidity of this statement, RIGHTS are FREEDOMS, look at the
    What about the right to enslave people? That would limit freedoms wouldn't it? Liberalism is literally built on this idea.
     I would be confused as to why he would, Trump is the embodiment of anti-socialism and anti-communism and therefore anti-marxism, however, he did say he was horrible, however, why he supported Hillary over Trump is beyond me.
    Weird.
     Those were metaphors and wisdom on life, I don't take it as fact.
    Yeah, the whole thing is a metaphor how about that? No historical accuracy whatsoever.
    They didn't, actually, read the story.
    Historically, it never happened at all.
    There is actually major evidence of a massive flood around the black sea area, so by world God probably meant the world known to the Israelites.
    A Black sea flood is not a flood of the whole world, make.
    'Yes, You elected big business pawns, as in pawns of big business. ' Trump isn't a pawn of a big business...

    'and read it exactly 0 times apparently. ' *and read it a dozen times apparently, fixed your typo.

    'The data shows more black people in prison than their representation in the general public.' Maybe because they commit more crimes?

    'Do you want a small government? Did Trump not run on a platform of "draining the swamp"? Is Trump not seen as the guy who "tells it like it is"?' That isn't a strong man, a strong man is the opposite of that.

    'Sort of. They were left-wing economically, right-wing socially, and progressive ideologically.' How were they left-wing economically, and they were also very conservative ideologically.

    'Fascism doesn't nationalize businesses, they privatize them.' You have officially rejected the entire Fascist economic policy, great, you're ignoring facts, at this point I'm considering ending this discussion right here and right now since I can't reason or argue with a person who rejects the facts.

    'That is English.' Gramiticaly embarrassing English...

    'What about the right to enslave people? That would limit freedoms wouldn't it?' You don't have a right to involuntarily enslave people since it encroaches on other people, come up with a different analogy so that we can have a real discussion.

    'Weird.' Yeah... Sorry about my typo, replace 'him' with 'Hillary'.

    'Yeah, the whole thing is a metaphor how about that? No historical accuracy whatsoever.' Not all of it, just some of it is.

    'Historically, it never happened at all.' According to what? And then, how did the Jews leave Egypt?

    'A Black sea flood is not a flood of the whole world,' I never said it was.
  • anarchist100anarchist100 215 Pts   -  
    @Debater123 ;
    I hardly understood your grammar but I'll give it a go.

    What is the point of this debate?
    The point is to p!$$ off anyone who associates with these actually fascist Trump supporters.

    If you think what these people are doing is okay, then you are anti-American, anti-liberal, and anti-democracy.

    So, either you reject these F***ers in order to preserve any credibility for the conservative movement, or make yourself look like an A$$. Your choice.
    Wow, anti-American, anti-liberal, anti-democracy, that's not describing Trump supporters, so much as it's describing me!
  • Happy_KillbotHappy_Killbot 3849 Pts   -  
    @Debater123 ;
    Trump isn't a pawn of a big business...
    I'm not saying he is.
    *and read it a dozen times apparently, fixed your typo.
    And didn't understand it a dozen times.
    Maybe because they commit more crimes?
    Maybe because they are in poverty more because they are institutionally disenfrachized.
    That isn't a strong man, a strong man is the opposite of that.
    A few hours ago, you didn't even know what a strong man was, now all of a sudden you have the authority to say what it is and isn't?
    How were they left-wing economically, and they were also very conservative ideologically.
    They supported socialism for one. It's easy to ignore, but socialism was once associated with Christianity in the US.
    You have officially rejected the entire Fascist economic policy, great, you're ignoring facts, at this point I'm considering ending this discussion right here and right now since I can't reason or argue with a person who rejects the facts.
    Like the fact that fascism is composed of private businesses which interact through the government in corporatism.
    Gramiticaly embarrassing English...
    You a silly boy.
    You don't have a right to involuntarily enslave people since it encroaches on other people, come up with a different analogy so that we can have a real discussion.
    But, it does demonstrate that too much freedom can lead to less freedom.
    Not all of it, just some of it is.
    No, it's entirely fake.
    According to what? And then, how did the Jews leave Egypt?
    They didn't.
    I never said it was.
    The bible does.
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • Debater123Debater123 272 Pts   -  
    @Debater123 ;
    Trump isn't a pawn of a big business...
    I'm not saying he is.
    *and read it a dozen times apparently, fixed your typo.
    And didn't understand it a dozen times.
    Maybe because they commit more crimes?
    Maybe because they are in poverty more because they are institutionally disenfrachized.
    That isn't a strong man, a strong man is the opposite of that.
    A few hours ago, you didn't even know what a strong man was, now all of a sudden you have the authority to say what it is and isn't?
    How were they left-wing economically, and they were also very conservative ideologically.
    They supported socialism for one. It's easy to ignore, but socialism was once associated with Christianity in the US.
    You have officially rejected the entire Fascist economic policy, great, you're ignoring facts, at this point I'm considering ending this discussion right here and right now since I can't reason or argue with a person who rejects the facts.
    Like the fact that fascism is composed of private businesses which interact through the government in corporatism.
    Gramiticaly embarrassing English...
    You a silly boy.
    You don't have a right to involuntarily enslave people since it encroaches on other people, come up with a different analogy so that we can have a real discussion.
    But, it does demonstrate that too much freedom can lead to less freedom.
    Not all of it, just some of it is.
    No, it's entirely fake.
    According to what? And then, how did the Jews leave Egypt?
    They didn't.
    I never said it was.
    The bible does.
    'I'm not saying he is.' Then you can only be saying something irrelevant...

    'And didn't understand it a dozen times.'  *And understood it a dozen times.

    'Maybe because they are in poverty more because they are institutionally disenfranchised.' How are they institutionally disenfranchised?

    'A few hours ago, you didn't even know what a strong man was, now all of a sudden you have the authority to say what it is and isn't?' I'm going by your words.

    'They supported socialism for one. It's easy to ignore, but socialism was once associated with Christianity in the US.' According to what did they support socialism.

    'Like the fact that fascism is composed of private businesses which interact through the government in corporatism.' And the businesses are nationalized(taken over) for the good of the Nation, this is fascist philosophy btw, Mussolini's one words.

    'No, it's entirely fake.' That's your opinion, which you cant prove.

    'They didn't.' Then how did the Jews form Isreal?

    'The bible does.' The bible said 'world' to describe the known Jewish world.
  • Happy_KillbotHappy_Killbot 3849 Pts   -  
    @Debater123 ;
    Then you can only be saying something irrelevant...
    You're the guy who would drop the ball and blame it on a bad pass aren't you?
    *And understood it a dozen times.
    So you have seen this?
     
    How are they institutionally disenfranchised?
    Can't get loans, government won't invest in communities, police arrest them, etc.
    I'm going by your words.
    Okay, then Trump is a "strong man"
    According to what did they support socialism.
    According to them. Read a book.

    "On February 4, 1918, the Prohibition affiliate in California voted in favor of merging with the National Party, which was created by pro-war defectors from the Socialist Party of America in 1917.[29]"
    And the businesses are nationalized(taken over) for the good of the Nation, this is fascist philosophy btw, Mussolini's one words.
    They were privatized in order to reduce cost.
    That's your opinion, which you cant prove.
    I'm not the one who asserts that the bible is historically accurate.
    Then how did the Jews form Isreal?
    Then how did the Jews from Israel what?
     The bible said 'world' to describe the known Jewish world.
    It just so happens, that wasn't flooded either.
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    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • Debater123Debater123 272 Pts   -   edited January 8
    @Happy_Killbot

    'So you have seen this?' That's words, not policy, through what they promise to do they want to make the USA more oppressive, specifically against white people.

    'Can't get loans, the government won't invest in communities, police arrest them, etc.' Loans from who? The government invests in their community, you saw this with Trump, and the police arrest every race.

    'In political discourse, a "strong man" is one who's voice and platform is there with the explicit intent of limiting the power of others.' The definition you gave, is not trump.

    "On February 4, 1918, the Prohibition affiliate in California voted in favor of merging with the National Party, which was created by pro-war defectors from the Socialist Party of America in 1917.[29] It doesn't mean they were socialists, it just means some of them were...

    'They were privatized to reduce cost.' Again, you are ignoring Fascist philosophy, read the Doctrine of Fascism.

    'I'm not the one who asserts that the bible is historically accurate.' You made the first claim in this discussion about it, that it is at fault, so prove it.

    *Then how did the Jews get to Israel?

    'It just so happens, that wasn't flooded either.' According to what?
  • uhmsophieuhmsophie 18 Pts   -   edited January 8
    What is the point of this debate?
    The point of this so called debate, more like people just sending memes is to see the fact of how bias the police system and just how sore of a loser some of the republicans can be. 

    The trump supporters were literally raiding the capitol and the police took longer to come to that, but were as quick as the "flash" to come to your daily BLM protest. I don't understand how this functions properly in peoples brains. There is a recording of a man that was attending a BLM protest with his little sister, he was held at gun point. Yet we have a grandma that was walking out of the CAPITOL, holding HANDS with an officer and being privately escorted. There is plenty of things wrong with that, and I shall name some. First, in the photo not only are they not social distancing but the grandma is not wearing a mask. Two, she is being privately escorted out the CAPITOL a building that she should have never entered. Yet, people still have the audacity to make up an excuse, "She was an grandma they weren't going to tear gas her". Well how about we have the same  energy with some of the fellow people attending a BLM protest, the man had a little girl around 5-7 years old. Nobody should have to see there older brother held at gun-point at that age. This is one of all the photo I have seen. 

    Besides the photo of someone being escorted out the Capitol with their hand being hold, lets check out another one. This is the first time a confederate flag has been inside the Capitol, and to think that this was supposed to be a peaceful protest just says something This "peaceful protest" ended with over 5 injuries and death being brought up. This was a, "Trump protest" not a "bring the confederate flag into the Capitol" kind of thing. What even goes though peoples minds. I can't believe it. There are over 100 photos that were taken 2 days ago, and I could write a whole entire essay about each one. But by this message, I want people to realize what is really going on. This isn't ok, and this has to change.Historian analyzes photo of rioter with Confederate flag in US Capitol -  Business Insider

    So you see, this is the point of the debate. 

    Sincerely, 

    uhmsophie
    George_Horse
  • Happy_KillbotHappy_Killbot 3849 Pts   -  
    @Debater123 ;
    That's words, not policy, through what they promise to do they want to make the USA more oppressive, specifically against white people.
    What is policy but a grouping of words? These words do in fact, represent their policy. 
    Loans from who? The government invests in their community, you saw this with Trump, and the police arrest every race.
    IDK, who do you go to to get loans? Also, what investments did Trump make in these communities?
    The definition you gave, is not trump.
    In case you missed it, Trump likes to scream "fake news" at everything he doesn't like, and ran on a platform of "draining the swamp". Fits quite well.
    It doesn't mean they were socialists, it just means some of them were...
    That would still prove my point.
    Again, you are ignoring Fascist philosophy, read the Doctrine of Fascism.
    I'm going to guess you never read that book.
    You made the first claim in this discussion about it, that it is at fault, so prove it.
    Okay, how much Geological evidence do you need that the world is not 6,000 years old?
    According to what?
    Geology, again. The flood story is a rip-off of the Epic of Gilgamesh.
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • TreeManTreeMan 51 Pts   -  
    IMPEACH TRUMP AGAIN(or use the power of the 25th amendment)
    Plaffelvohfen
  • anarchist100anarchist100 215 Pts   -  
    @TreeMan
    What's he going to do? He has less than a week left,
  • TreeManTreeMan 51 Pts   -  
    trump is no longer fit for office
    without him and his lies, nobody would have stormed capitol hill
    did the democrats do that when Hilary lost?
    Nope. Hillary even congratulated trump on winning
    trump, on the other hand, is being the typical sore loser
  • Happy_KillbotHappy_Killbot 3849 Pts   -  
    @anarchist100 ;
    What's he going to do? He has less than a week left,
    *laughs in nuclear strike*
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • JaceJace 148 Pts   -  
    honestly this was popcorn munching good times. watching authright protestors fight authright law enforcement to gain entry into an authright bastion to try to force one authright president onto the world instead of a different authright president. top it off with viking helmets, lazy boy senate seat, and wandering podium guy and it was a good chuckle. msm coverage of the 'sanctified' ritual of the 'greatest democracy' was nearly gut wrenching. now watching partisans flip-flip again like principles are hot potatoes... i might have to unplug just to give my abs a break.
  • Debater123Debater123 272 Pts   -  
    @Debater123 ;
    That's words, not policy, through what they promise to do they want to make the USA more oppressive, specifically against white people.
    What is policy but a grouping of words? These words do in fact, represent their policy. 
    Loans from who? The government invests in their community, you saw this with Trump, and the police arrest every race.
    IDK, who do you go to to get loans? Also, what investments did Trump make in these communities?
    The definition you gave, is not trump.
    In case you missed it, Trump likes to scream "fake news" at everything he doesn't like, and ran on a platform of "draining the swamp". Fits quite well.
    It doesn't mean they were socialists, it just means some of them were...
    That would still prove my point.
    Again, you are ignoring Fascist philosophy, read the Doctrine of Fascism.
    I'm going to guess you never read that book.
    You made the first claim in this discussion about it, that it is at fault, so prove it.
    Okay, how much Geological evidence do you need that the world is not 6,000 years old?
    According to what?
    Geology, again. The flood story is a rip-off of the Epic of Gilgamesh.
    'Also, what investments did Trump make in these communities?' He funded historically black colleges.

    'Trump likes to scream "fake news" at everything he doesn't like, and ran on a platform of "draining the swamp". ' That is still not a straw-man...

    'That would still prove my point.' No, it wouldn't, then by that logic, the republican party is today, since there is at least 1 socialist in it.

    'I'm going to guess you never read that book.' I did, I'd like you to.

    'Okay, how much Geological evidence do you need that the world is not 6,000 years old?' You're looking at one section of the book, rather than the entirety of it, therefore generalizing.

    'Geology, again.' Would you like me to send you the source about the black sea flood?

    Also, answer this question which you have avoided:

    Then how did the Jews get to Israel?
  • mickygmickyg 208 Pts   -  
    YOU UNDERSTAND THE POST PERFECTLY.
    when hillarY lost people threatened to move to canada
    TRUMP LOSERS THREATEN CIVIL WAR.
    BUNCH OF FASCISTS JUST LIKE HITLER DID TO SPAIN...
  • mickygmickyg 208 Pts   -  
    YOU UNDERSTAND THE POST PERFECTLY.
    when hillarY lost people threatened to move to canada
    TRUMP LOSERS THREATEN CIVIL WAR.
    BUNCH OF FASCISTS JUST LIKE HITLER DID TO SPAIN...
  • mickygmickyg 208 Pts   -  
    YOU UNDERSTAND THE POST PERFECTLY.
    when hillarY lost people threatened to move to canada
    TRUMP LOSERS THREATEN CIVIL WAR.
    BUNCH OF FASCISTS JUST LIKE HITLER DID TO SPAIN...
  • mickygmickyg 208 Pts   -  
    YOU UNDERSTAND THE POST PERFECTLY.
    when hillarY lost people threatened to move to canada
    TRUMP LOSERS THREATEN CIVIL WAR.
    BUNCH OF FASCISTS JUST LIKE HITLER DID TO SPAIN...
  • TreeManTreeMan 51 Pts   -  
    um......

  • George_HorseGeorge_Horse 489 Pts   -  
    @VVSvic Deranged people man 

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