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Ancient Soldiers, how come you never realized a ranged weapon is better?

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Modern soldiers use guns.

Ancient soldiers use melee weapons.

I do know that Ancient soldiers have used bows/crossbows, but they never used them a lot of the time, many major ancient battles have always eventually boiled down to a melee.

Similar to how modern soldiers basically rely on guns (with good reason), how come ancient soldiers never got the same idea (in using bows)?

Melee fights are many times more brutal than a bow fight. 

Bows are essentially better than melee.

I say, they were . Or maybe that melees were simply easier to use and bows needed more training. But, crossbows could be used with more ease with less training. 
It would've paid off.



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  • Keal192NXQ2Keal192NXQ2 246 Pts   -  
    Argh! Debra! You censored the word s--tu-pid-?!!!
  • LiamThePersonLiamThePerson 701 Pts   -  
    @Keal192NXQ2 Crossbows were invented relatively recently, so nobody before the 1st century could have used them. I also think that sword fighting is easier compared to archery. 
  • all4acttall4actt 293 Pts   -  
    When bows and crossbows were available they were slow and restricted to distance and the amount of reloads that could be carried.  The strategies seem to always be to break the distance between bowmen and troops rendering bows ineffective b/c they couldn't be loaded fast enough.  
  • Debater123Debater123 592 Pts   -   edited March 2021
    @Keal192NXQ2 Ranged weapons in the time of bows and swords, were not better, but in fact inferior in many ways.

    One of the reasons that you only have a limited number of shots, and they can be countered shields rather easily.

    If I had 100 swordsmen with shields, and 100 archers, who would win in a fight?
    Plaffelvohfen
  • NomenclatureNomenclature 626 Pts   -  
    @Keal192NXQ2

    Similar to how modern soldiers basically rely on guns (with good reason), how come ancient soldiers never got the same idea (in using bows)?

    Well, archers were a huge part of early armies. I suppose it all depends on what you mean by ancient. 

    Archers weren't very effective against heavily armoured knights, men with shields or -- perhaps most importantly -- when attacking castles or other forms of fortification. 


    Plaffelvohfen
  • CYDdhartaCYDdharta 1815 Pts   -   edited March 2021

    Well, archers were a huge part of early armies. I suppose it all depends on what you mean by ancient. 

    Archers weren't very effective against heavily armoured knights, men with shields or -- perhaps most importantly -- when attacking castles or other forms of fortification. 



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  • CYDdhartaCYDdharta 1815 Pts   -  
    It takes a lot of skill, strength, and training to be able to draw and hit something with a 160LB bow. 

    The reason crossbows were invented was so that people who had never held a bow, like peasants,could fire munitions like an archer without all the training or strength.  The problem with crossbows is that they are slow to reload.  A heavy crossbow is slower to reload than a musket.
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