Is there ever a way to change the mindset of someone who doesn't want to learn?

JulesKorngold

From the Gemini chatbot:

Changing someone's mind is tricky! It's less about forcing your view and more about planting a seed of doubt and guiding them to see things differently. Here are some key strategies:

• Be respectful and listen actively: People are more receptive to new ideas when they feel heard and understood. Pay attention to their perspective and ask questions to get a deeper understanding.
• Find common ground: Start by acknowledging areas where you agree. This builds trust and shows you're not just trying to win an argument.
• Focus on understanding, not winning: Approach the conversation with a genuine curiosity about their viewpoint. This shift in mindset can make a big difference.
• Present your arguments thoughtfully: Use clear, concise language and back your claims with evidence. Focus on the strengths of your position rather than attacking theirs.
• Ask open-ended questions: These encourage the person to think critically about their own beliefs and open them up to new possibilities.
• Be patient and open-minded: Changing minds takes time. Don't expect someone to be swayed overnight. Be open to the possibility that you might learn something too.

Bogan

That depends upon the quality of the opponent.    As a Nimrod debater, I believed that it should be easy to change an opponents mind using reason and logic.    But although I have had some success, I am firmly convinced that it is impossible to change the minds of people who just do not want to know.

I have debated people about firearm ownership who simply refused to acknowledge the simplest of connections.    That was when I realised that these people knew perfectly well that I was right, but they were animal lovers who just wanted to ban all privately owned firearms.

Then there are people like ZeusAries42 who appear to know that all races are not equal, but will avoid debating this topic honestly, because of some reason or other,

Either because he is part of an educated elitist pseudo Brahman group that expects him to be reflexively anti racist?    Or, he is a world saver who really does think that destroying his own society using multiculturalism is the price his society must pay to avoid nuclear annihilation?   Or, a mixture of both?

Putin

As for Julia, you'll have to hack her chatbot somehow. That will work pretty good.

JulesKorngold

Putin said:

As for Julia, you'll have to hack her chatbot somehow. That will work pretty good.

From the Gemini chatbot:

There are ways in which large language models like me can be hacked, though it wouldn't be exactly the same way a computer can be hacked. Here are some potential threats:

• Malicious Inputs: If someone were to trick me into processing harmful code or data, it could potentially corrupt my internal systems or lead me to generate unsafe outputs.
• Data Poisoning: The training data I learn from is crucial. If bad actors were to manipulate the data used to train me, it could bias my responses or introduce misleading information.
• Exploiting Vulnerabilities: Like any complex system, I may have weaknesses in my programming or design. Hackers could potentially find and exploit these vulnerabilities to alter my behavior.

Researchers are constantly working on improving the security of large language models. Here are some ways this is being addressed:

• Input Validation: Techniques are being developed to check the validity of user inputs before processing them, reducing the risk of malicious code.
• Data Cleaning: Training data is carefully screened to minimize bias and misinformation.
• Security Monitoring: Systems are monitored for unusual activity to identify and address potential security issues.

Overall, while there are risks, significant efforts are underway to make large language models more secure and trustworthy.

Numbnuts like Putin have no chance of hacking a chatbot.

Putin

Bogan said:

As a Nimrod debater,

That's not very nice, sure you're not the best debater, you have your embarrassingly daft moments, but I wouldn't go that far as to call you a nimrod debater, you have some intelligent qualities as well.

Bogan

@Putin ; That's not very nice, sure you're not the best debater, you have your embarrassingly daft moments, but I wouldn't go that far as to call you a nimrod debater, you have some intelligent qualities as well.

I was speaking about when I first got onto debating sites. twenty years ago.   I presume that since you made such an elementary mistake understanding what I wrote, that English is not your first language?  

Putin

@Bogan
Wow! English isn't the president of Russia's first language? Bravo, you're the first to guess that.

Bogan

@Putin

Did you come onto this site to debate, or just to pretend that you are clever?