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Are We Getting Closer to the Truth About God?

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Isn't it interesting to know that pagans and polytheists once believed in multiple Gods?

. . . . . . . Then theists started believing in one God.

. . . . . . So, are they getting closer to the truth?
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  • TrueLoveTrueLove 251 Pts   -   edited May 29

    Satan and his angels were thrown down to earth.  Satan knew the Messiah would come, and he made many copy-cat messiahs/gods, before Jesus came to earth in the flesh. When Satan came to earth, he made copy-cat stories, and promoted gods of stone and wood.  These ‘gods’ are really demons, and believing in these gods is the worship of demons.

    Many nations have these demonic gods. In Egypt, Isis is a goddess worshiped, as is her consort, the sun god Ra.  Isis is the mother of many gods. She also had a son, Horus, who was called divine. One can study about the Norse Gods — Odin, Thor, Balder, Frey, Freya, and Loki; and, Hindu gods, and Greek gods.

    We see in the Bible where people worshiped goat and calf idols. In the book of Ezekiel we read about the image of jealousy set up at the gate of the altar Ezekiel 8:5, and 6, to provoke God of Israel to anger.  Who but Satan would be behind setting up something to cause God’s anger?

    1 Corinthians 10:20 No, but the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons.

    1 Timothy 4:1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. 3 They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. 4 For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.

    6 If you point these things out to the brothers and sisters, a you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, nourished on the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed. 7 Have nothing to do with godless myths and old wives’ tales; rather, train yourself to be godly. 8 For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come. 9 This is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance. 10 That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.

    11 Command and teach these things.

    JoeKerr
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
  • SwolliwSwolliw 937 Pts   -   edited May 30
    @TrueLove
    We see in the Bible where people worshiped goat and calf idols. 

    That's quite interesting. During my research I found that in very early times, Gods were almost always animals. In fact, living animals were considered to be so sacred as to be spiritual beings......we still see the sacred cow in India, a country which is largely vegetarian in diet. 

    It gots me to thinkin; could it be that the word "God" is actually an anadrome of "Dog".

  • TrueLoveTrueLove 251 Pts   -   edited May 30
    Swolliw said:
    @TrueLove
    We see in the Bible where people worshiped goat and calf idols. 

    That's quite interesting. During my research I found that in very early times, Gods were almost always animals. In fact, living animals were considered to be so sacred as to be spiritual beings......we still see the sacred cow in India, a country which is largely vegetarian in diet. 

    It gots me to thinkin; could it be that the word "God" is actually an anadrome of "Dog".

    It means you are Hell bent on being an enemy of God and is going to Hell.  
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
  • SwolliwSwolliw 937 Pts   -  
    @TrueLove
    ........of God and is going to Hell. 

    So, God is going to Hell, is he?

    That's exactly what I have always maintained......God can go to Hell.

  • TrueLoveTrueLove 251 Pts   -   edited June 2
    ...
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
  • TrueLoveTrueLove 251 Pts   -   edited June 2
    Swolliw said:
    @TrueLove
    ........of God and is going to Hell. 

    So, God is going to Hell, is he?

    That's exactly what I have always maintained......God can go to Hell.

    Where did you learn to lie like that? Satan, is the father of lies.

    John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
  • SwolliwSwolliw 937 Pts   -  
    @TrueLove
    Where did you learn to lie like that? Satan, is the father of lies.

    From you....".....of God and is going to Hell."

    Don't shoot the messenger. You're the one who shot himself in the foot.

  • TrueLoveTrueLove 251 Pts   -   edited June 3
    Argument Topic: More lies

    That is just more of your lies.  Did I say 'is' instead of 'are'?  You can't debate the topic and others' replies, so you resort to critiquing people's sentence structure and spelling. 
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
  • SwolliwSwolliw 937 Pts   -  
    @TrueLove
    Did I say 'is' instead of 'are'?

    Yes, you did, if you care to look at your post instead of hurling unwarranted and unjustified vitriol.

    A simple apology would be the order of the day.

  • TrueLoveTrueLove 251 Pts   -   edited June 5
    Swolliw said:
    @TrueLove
    Did I say 'is' instead of 'are'?

    Yes, you did, if you care to look at your post instead of hurling unwarranted and unjustified vitriol.

    A simple apology would be the order of the day.

    You aren't very smart if you can't figure out what a person is saying because of a one word typo.
     You can't debate the topic and others' replies, so you resort to critiquing people's sentence structure and spelling. 
    You are such a hypocritical contrary person.  You are the one who needs to apologize.  
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
  • SwolliwSwolliw 937 Pts   -  
    @TrueLove
    You are such a hypocritical contrary person.  You are the one who needs to apologize.  

    I am contrary (to your views) but so what?....You are contrary to my views.

    But that is beside the point. You have avoided the issue of your major blunder (and the blunder of denying it) of why you should apologize. Anyway, it bothers me in the least bit since it is you who no doubt wrestles with the issue of being able to sleep at night. With all that bigotry, hatred, and fear mongering swirling around in your mind you must surely be knocking back the temazepam like candy.


  • TrueLoveTrueLove 251 Pts   -   edited June 6
    ...
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
  • TrueLoveTrueLove 251 Pts   -   edited June 6
    I'm not speaking about you being a hypocrite and contrary for having different views.  I'm speaking about your character.  You should fear.  
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
  • xlJ_dolphin_473xlJ_dolphin_473 1472 Pts   -  
    @TrueLove
    TrueLove said:
    I'm speaking about your character.  
    You know what that’s called?
    Ad hominem!
  • CYDdhartaCYDdharta 1603 Pts   -  

    You know what that’s called?
    Ad hominem!
    The whole thread is based on an ad hominem, what's your point?
  • TrueLoveTrueLove 251 Pts   -  
    @TrueLove
    TrueLove said:
    I'm speaking about your character.  
    You know what that’s called?
    Ad hominem!
    He was attacking me in a hypocritical contrary manner.  Do you not get that I was calling him out on it?
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
  • TrueLoveTrueLove 251 Pts   -  
    CYDdharta said:

    You know what that’s called?
    Ad hominem!
    The whole thread is based on an ad hominem, what's your point?
    Exactly!
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
  • SwolliwSwolliw 937 Pts   -  
    Argument Topic: Fear No Evil

    @TrueLove
    I'm not speaking about you being a hypocrite and contrary for having different views.  I'm speaking about your character.  You should fear.  

    Well, you are right I suppose. I should fear. Being an atheist of course, I simply don't know what fear feels like.

    Yeah, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am the meanest son-of-a-bi-tch in the valley.

  • TrueLoveTrueLove 251 Pts   -  
    Swolliw said:
    @TrueLove
    I'm not speaking about you being a hypocrite and contrary for having different views.  I'm speaking about your character.  You should fear.  

    Well, you are right I suppose. I should fear. Being an atheist of course, I simply don't know what fear feels like.

    Yeah, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am the meanest son-of-a-bi-tch in the valley.

    You are going to be in for a rude awakening.  
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
  • TreeManTreeMan 209 Pts   -  
    ‘Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool’
    Mark Twain
    Swolliw
  • TreeManTreeMan 209 Pts   -  
    ‘Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool’
    Mark Twain
  • JeanJean 30 Pts   -   edited June 8
    Argument Topic: generalizing not from a perticular

    @TreeMan This is very witty but misses the point that that nearly everyone wmbraces the religion of their parents, friends, and community to which they belong. People take in religion with their mothers' milk. If there is any decision to be made, it is to reject the religion of their family and their culture. Becoming an atheist in Turkey would take a lot of courage while believing in a god would cause problems for a Chinese person.
  • TrueLoveTrueLove 251 Pts   -  
    TreeMan said:
    ‘Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool’
    Mark Twain
    So that mere man's opinion is gold to you?
    TreeMan
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
  • SwolliwSwolliw 937 Pts   -  
    @TrueLove
    So that mere man's opinion is gold to you?

    That "mere" man happens to have been an extremely gifted writer whose opinion is fact. I have written many times on that topic and it is quite well evidenced that religion was invented by those in control to take command of and oppress the masses.

    TreeMan
  • @Swolliw

    Well,
    There being one GOD does not make the principles of multiple findings one truth.
  • TrueLoveTrueLove 251 Pts   -  
    Swolliw said:
    @TrueLove
    So that mere man's opinion is gold to you?

    That "mere" man happens to have been an extremely gifted writer whose opinion is fact. I have written many times on that topic and it is quite well evidenced that religion was invented by those in control to take command of and oppress the masses.

    If you want to really know if the Bible is true, then you can find out for yourself.

    You will have to get Jesus' teachings from the Bible and do what he says to do, then he will give you understanding.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
  • JeanJean 30 Pts   -  
    TrueLove said:
    Swolliw said:
    @TrueLove
    So that mere man's opinion is gold to you?

    That "mere" man happens to have been an extremely gifted writer whose opinion is fact. I have written many times on that topic and it is quite well evidenced that religion was invented by those in control to take command of and oppress the masses.

    If you want to really know if the Bible is true, then you can find out for yourself.

    You will have to get Jesus' teachings from the Bible and do what he says to do, then he will give you understanding.
    Christians have been known to say that it is not Joshua Ben Joseph but the Holy Ghost, the Great Teacher, sent from Heaven after the Assention, to reveal God's truth, especially through the Bible. It is the Holy Ghost Who enlightens Christians working in people's faith to understand the Bible including the teachings of Joshua Ben Joseph.
  • TreeManTreeMan 209 Pts   -  
    TrueLove said:
    TreeMan said:
    ‘Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool’
    Mark Twain
    So that mere man's opinion is gold to you?
    At least I know mark twain exists, unlike a god with no proof for whom’s existence.
  • TreeManTreeMan 209 Pts   -  
    Swolliw said:
    @TrueLove
    So that mere man's opinion is gold to you?

    That "mere" man happens to have been an extremely gifted writer whose opinion is fact. I have written many times on that topic and it is quite well evidenced that religion was invented by those in control to take command of and oppress the masses.

    As Karl Marx said, ‘religion is the opium of the people.’
    Religion was invented by the ruling nobility to oppress people and that people wouldn’t feel so bad been oppressed.
    Swolliw
  • TreeManTreeMan 209 Pts   -  
    Not saying I support communism. I want to get it clear, I am a democratic socialist.
  • TrueLoveTrueLove 251 Pts   -  
    Jean said:
    TrueLove said:
    Swolliw said:
    @TrueLove
    So that mere man's opinion is gold to you?

    That "mere" man happens to have been an extremely gifted writer whose opinion is fact. I have written many times on that topic and it is quite well evidenced that religion was invented by those in control to take command of and oppress the masses.

    If you want to really know if the Bible is true, then you can find out for yourself.

    You will have to get Jesus' teachings from the Bible and do what he says to do, then he will give you understanding.
    Christians have been known to say that it is not Joshua Ben Joseph but the Holy Ghost, the Great Teacher, sent from Heaven after the Assention, to reveal God's truth, especially through the Bible. It is the Holy Ghost Who enlightens Christians working in people's faith to understand the Bible including the teachings of Joshua Ben Joseph.
    Who is Joshua Ben Joseph?

    Jesus is the Holy Spirit.  They are one and the same.

    Jesus gives understanding to those who get his teachings and obeys them.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
  • TrueLoveTrueLove 251 Pts   -  
    TreeMan said:
    TrueLove said:
    TreeMan said:
    ‘Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool’
    Mark Twain
    So that mere man's opinion is gold to you?
    At least I know mark twain exists, unlike a god with no proof for whom’s existence.
    Don't you want to know for sure if God is true?
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
  • TrueLoveTrueLove 251 Pts   -  
    TreeMan said:
    Swolliw said:
    @TrueLove
    So that mere man's opinion is gold to you?

    That "mere" man happens to have been an extremely gifted writer whose opinion is fact. I have written many times on that topic and it is quite well evidenced that religion was invented by those in control to take command of and oppress the masses.

    As Karl Marx said, ‘religion is the opium of the people.’
    Religion was invented by the ruling nobility to oppress people and that people wouldn’t feel so bad been oppressed.
    What is the oppression?  
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
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