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This one is based off of curiosity. What is your definition of consciousness. What is being and existing. What purpose do you have. Below is a simple definition: 

con·scious·ness
/ˈkän(t)SHəsnəs/
noun
  1. the state of being awake and aware of one's surroundings.
    "she failed to regain consciousness and died two days later"
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  • JulesKorngoldJulesKorngold 1028 Pts   -  
    The major questions regarding consciousness:

    1. **What are the critical brain regions for consciousness?**  
       Understanding which parts of the brain are essential for consciousness involves studying the cortex and thalamus, among other regions[1].

    2. **What are the mechanisms of general anesthesia?**  
       Investigating how anesthesia causes loss of consciousness can provide insights into how consciousness functions and its underlying neural mechanisms[1].

    3. **What is the self?**  
       This question explores the nature of selfhood, including the first-person perspective and the sense of ownership of thoughts and actions[1].

    4. **What determines experiences of volition and 'will'?**  
       The nature of free will and how we experience intention and agency are central to understanding consciousness[1].

    5. **What is the function of consciousness?**  
       Researchers are exploring whether consciousness serves specific cognitive functions, such as integrating information[1].

    6. **How rich is consciousness?**  
       This question examines whether our conscious experiences can be fully captured by subjective reports and whether they exceed our ability to articulate them[1].

    7. **Are other animals conscious?**  
       Determining the extent and nature of consciousness in non-human animals is a significant area of inquiry[1].

    8. **Is artificial consciousness possible?**  
       The potential for machines to achieve consciousness, and what that would entail, is a key question in AI and consciousness studies[4].

    9. **What is the biological basis of consciousness?**  
       Understanding the neural and biological underpinnings of consciousness is a central question in neuroscience[4].

    10. **Can physics explain consciousness?**  
        This question explores whether consciousness can be understood through the principles of physics and how it relates to the physical world[3].

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  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1318 Pts   -   edited September 2024
    @JeffreyBlankenship ; Consciousness is a created entity that flows from the human conscience which is the seat and progenitor of self, the soul, the spirit, the basic foundation for life, awareness, in Time as created by our God, Jesus Christ.


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  • maxxmaxx 1207 Pts   -  
    short version.. we are nothing but a collection of cells. every neuron is made up of cells, our entire brain is cells, so if consciousness exists, it begins in the cells. human language is nothing more that a representation of our internal impressions and images based upon memories developed by the input of our senses of the outside world. Before language developed, we still "thought" but by images alone. Our neurons when fired do not produce the thought first, but the image, and the actual thought is but a "spoken" representation of the image. It is the cells that when working together that contains the consciousness of anything with a brain. Yes, all the cells together ends up equaling a human, yet no matter how you look at it, we are still nothing more than a collection of cells, assembled in a mobile fashion.  Hence, consciousness are based and within the cells. One does not need spoken or internal thoughts nor even images to be in a consciousness state, but merely to be alive; and it is the cells that are alive, and we are but a collection of them @JeffreyBlankenship
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1318 Pts   -  
    @maxx ; We are created in the spiritual image of our Creator (Genesis 1:26-28)...the flesh is a temporary housing for the spirit as our eschatological walk in Time is essential for the Father's purposes in defeating the works of Satan (1 John 3:8b; Genesis 3:15). We will shed this body of decaying flesh in Time and we will be a spirit freed from our physical restraints of flesh and physics. You speak and make utterances because your Creator designed you to communicate. Your cells repair and rejuvenate as per your Creator's will and that process is slowing by the second and your cells will die away but your spirit will not die away and the decisions you make now concerning Jesus will determine the location of your spirit the atomic second you exhale your last.




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  • maxxmaxx 1207 Pts   -   edited November 2024
    no we are not. you just spout bologna from a book and claim the book is correct because the book says so. that is not proof at all. you have no proof as to god creating cells while science can show proof. heck we now have the ability to create cells. do not spout your quotes out of a book and say that is proof. give me proof outside of your quotes and maybe people may take you seriously.  you would not believe how many times you have contradicted yourself over many posts with your quotes. you know so little about your own religion it is comical. there used to be a guy on here named sandy, and while i did not quite agree with many of his ideas, he had a very high intellect and a high command of the bible. In comparison you are a dullard, sadly to say.  it is sad to think people like you whose education rests in a bible and whatever they look up on line.  aside from the bible i highly suspect you have not read a book since high school. @RickeyHoltsclaw
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1318 Pts   -  
    @maxx ; I tell you the Truth of Scripture...you are blinded by Satan via your foolishness in atheism...you're a dead-man walking in atheistic arrogance and idio-cy.


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  • Jules1Jules1 79 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw
    Just want to pop in and want to note that Rickey did not in fact, provide proof that the Bible was correct, but instead shouted yet another Bible verse
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  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1318 Pts   -  
    @Jules1 ; The Scriptures are Truth...you have no idea because you're a spiritually dead atheist headed to Hell in your arrogance and sin.


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  • Jules1Jules1 79 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw
    *Agnostic.
    At least the Catholics can give me SOME out of scripture proof for the Bible being at the very least grounded in truth.
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1318 Pts   -  
    @Jules1 ; Catholicism is a works cult that will perish with atheism in Hell. Please try harder, atheist.
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  • Jules1Jules1 79 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw
    Damn, didn't know Protestants and Baptists were THAT crazy. Catholics are the only people able to give me proof that scripture is real other than quoting the scripture, they are not the enemy here, they seem to be the only ones giving good arguments.
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1318 Pts   -  
    @Jules1 ; You wouldn't "proof" if it slapped you in the face. Catholicism is not Christianity and the Apocrypha are not inspired texts...
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  • Jules1Jules1 79 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw
    Again, they point to archeological evidence of kings mentioned within the Bible, you just yell about how I will burn in Hell. Also, who says Catholicism isn't part of Christianity? About 1.3 billion people disagree with you on that one
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1318 Pts   -  
    @Jules1 ; Catholicism is an invention of Emperor Constantine via the Edict of Milan (312-313AD) motivated by his desire to attain greater control over the masses within the burgeoning Roman Empire. In order to make Christianity more attractive to the masses, Constantine merged Roman and Babylonian Paganism with non-Christian Apocryphal doctrine sprinkled with elements of Christian Scripture and formed the World's 2nd-largest religious works cult, second only to Islam. Catholicism is not nor has it ever been Christianity.





     
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  • Jules1Jules1 79 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw
    Calling any religion you disagree a cult is not constructive at all. Catholicism formed by centuries of political maneuvering and scheming, that I can agree with, but isn't all religion?
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1318 Pts   -  
    @Jules1 ; Anything or anyone or any "belief" that denies Jesus as Messiah, God, Elohim, and denies Jesus as the sole-Way to Heaven via sincere "faith" via the forgiveness of sin is a cult and a "religion." You are an atheist...a religious cult of death in arrogance and self-righteousness via spiritual ignorance.


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  • Jules1Jules1 79 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw
    Not the definition of cult, stop making up stuff. Also, by the definition your stolen Facebook image gives, is Protestantism not a cult? It attempts to rectify the Christian doctrine at the time.
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1318 Pts   -  
    @Jules1 ; Protestants closely follow the Biblical Narrative, they believe that salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus and that Jesus is Elohim (Genesis 1:1) and that Elohim has revealed Himself in three distinct Persons within the Realm of Time as 
    Father - Administrator
    Son - Creator-Warrior-Messiah-Judge
    Holy Spirit - Logistics. 

    It is the cult and the "religion" that mocks and denies the basic elements of the faith. 
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  • Jules1Jules1 79 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw
    You mean they follow their own interpretation of the Bible. Any sect of Christianity has a different interpretation of the scripture, you are just using the name cult to simplify those who disagree with you into a single, easy to ignore box, similar to "Marxist".
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  • maxxmaxx 1207 Pts   -  
    the worse thing about ricky, is his quotes do not have any thing to do with the actual topic, and his verses are takien out of context with the chapter he is quoting from, to give it a different meaning. @Jules1
  • maxxmaxx 1207 Pts   -  
    there is no where in the bible that states that satan is the god of this earth nor a god of any sort. stop making up new meanings to serve your purpose. @RickeyHoltsclaw
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1318 Pts   -  
    @Jules1 ; @Maxx ; @ Christianity is ONE...anyone who disagrees with Jesus as Messiah; Jesus as Elohim/God/Creator; Salvation by grace through faith/Christian sanctification via obedience to the indwelling Holy Spirit/The Triune God of Father-Son-Spirit...anyone who disagrees with the foundational tenets of the Christian faith are not Christian...they may have a nice "religion" or "sect" or "cult" but they're NOT Christian.

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  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1318 Pts   -  
    @maxx ; @Jules1 Jesus and the Holy Spirit clearly tell you that Satan has been given limited dominion over this fallen World in response to Adam's rejection Elohim's sovereignty in the beginning. Satan is currently being used as a one who sifts the faithful from the unfaithful...Elohim employs the defilement of Satan to test the hearts of man and a "few" will remain faithful to Jesus and "many," like yourself, will ally with Satan and suffer a fate similar to his in Hell (Revelation 20:10-15).

    Jesus speaks of Satan as the "prince of this World".....John 14 (ESV)

    25 “These things I have spoken to you while I am still with you. 26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you. 27 Peace I leave with you; my peace I give to you. Not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your hearts be troubled, neither let them be afraid. 28 You heard me say to you, ‘I am going away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. 29 And now I have told you before it takes place, so that when it does take place you may believe. 30 I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming. He has no claim on me, 31 but I do as the Father has commanded me, so that the world may know that I love the Father. Rise, let us go from here.

    The Holy Spirit working through the Apostle Paul references Satan as the "god of this age".... 2 Corinthians 4 (ESV)

    4 Therefore, having this ministry by the mercy of God, we do not lose heart. 2 But we have renounced disgraceful, underhanded ways. We refuse to practice cunning or to tamper with God's word, but by the open statement of the truth we would commend ourselves to everyone's conscience in the sight of God. 3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4 In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

    Satan is referred to as "an angel of light"  2 Corinthians 11 (ESV)

    12 And what I am doing I will continue to do, in order to undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that in their boasted mission they work on the same terms as we do. 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15 So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.



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  • maxxmaxx 1207 Pts   -  
    you know, you have a real translation problem, and another thing, is i told you begore, each generation has a changed bible, changed so that it benefits what they believe. all of those verses you quoted are far different in actual meaning that the originals translations. so i who would rather read the original works of the bible, dispute your new translation for they and words are not only changed, but have a different meaning.  i asked you before to read the Tynedale bible but you refuse to, even though it is translated from versions that are correct in the original meaning. so all of your quotes are meaningless. You also have a bad habit of taken a verse or so out of a chapter out of context with the entire chapter to give the verse a new meaning.  as someone who believes that he has a command of the bible you are very inadequate. @RickeyHoltsclaw
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  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1318 Pts   -   edited November 2024
    @maxx ; The Scriptures have not changed...the text has not changed. Jesus is Elohim (Genesis 1:1) and you, as a godless atheist, are a servant of Satan who is the "god" of this age. You are lost, blind, spiritually ignorant, dying in Hell and you're too stu-pid to care.


  • maxxmaxx 1207 Pts   -  
    and you are mis guided. if they have not changed then it will not hurt for you to look now will it. you can find and read the Tyndale bible free on internet archive. @RickeyHoltsclaw
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1318 Pts   -  
    @maxx ; Tyndale...in what translation? The Scriptures do not change, they are eternal. It is God the Holy Spirit who has provided the Scriptures for you, for your edification and eternal life in Jesus. If you deny Jesus, you will die in Hell.


  • maxxmaxx 1207 Pts   -  
    the tyndale bible is the first english translation from the original greek and hebrew works. i suggest you read it. after all it is the  closer to the original bible translation as one can get. @RickeyHoltsclaw
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1318 Pts   -  
    @maxx ; Show me any contextual differences between Tyndale and the NASB which uses ALL major extant manuscripts as a foundation for translation?
  • maxxmaxx 1207 Pts   -  
    oh there are lots of differences.  one has to read it to actually get the feel. but hey, if you do not want to read the word of god as it is was then so be it. it is not just about a word here and there but differences in context.  then there is the wycliffe bible. i highly suggest you read your own religious history. @RickeyHoltsclaw
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1318 Pts   -  
    @maxx Obfuscation much? It's not about your "feelings" but about what is Truth...you're obviously too cowardly to investigate and provide evidence for your nonsense. You're an obnoxious atheist.


  • FactfinderFactfinder 2028 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Obfuscation much? It's not about your "feelings" but about what is Truth...you're obviously too cowardly to investigate and provide evidence for your nonsense. You're an obnoxious atheist.

    Obfuscation much? It's not about your feelings but about what is true. You're obviously too cowardly to investigate and provide evidence for your nonsense. You're an obnoxious theist. Still no god to help you back up elf god fairy claims. No zombie dna. If Jesus died then why do you claim he lives? If he didn't die then Calgary was just another cultic hoax. If he only died for three days then he didn't sacrifice himself, he just gave up a weekend only. Wish you read the bible or an elf god was real and could help you out? 
  • FactfinderFactfinder 2028 Pts   -   edited November 2024
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

     Protestants closely follow the Biblical Narrative,

    And you are just as obnoxiously erroneously false as the bible has proved to be. Any zombie blood lines? Migration patterns of kangaroos migrating from Australia to the middle east and then from Mt Ararat back to Australia? Growing plants on the moon just from the day one creation of heavenly light yet with no sun light on the dark side?
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1318 Pts   -  
    @Factfinder ; You're spiritually dead. The Scriptures provide you your only Hope for life. I have grown much too weary to continue with you...you're on "mute" once again...I cannot stand your filth and arrogance any longer...
  • FactfinderFactfinder 2028 Pts   -  
    @Factfinder ; You're spiritually dead. The Scriptures provide you your only Hope for life. I have grown much too weary to continue with you...you're on "mute" once again...I cannot stand your filth and arrogance any longer...
    I win again!
  • maxxmaxx 1207 Pts   -  
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  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1318 Pts   -  
    @maxx ; You deny your only Hope...you are the fool of the ages.




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  • FactfinderFactfinder 2028 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    You deny your only Hope...you are the fool of the ages.

    bible Memes  GIFs - Imgflip


  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1318 Pts   -  
    @Factfinder ; Jesus as your Messiah is your only Hope...you have chosen via free will to die in Hell.


  • maxxmaxx 1207 Pts   -  
    nuts. i show you your own bible history and you deny it. go take a hike if you can not even believe your own biblical history. @RickeyHoltsclaw
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1318 Pts   -  
    @maxx ; You've shown nothing...simply a translation in archaic Old English yet the verses are not altered from the manuscripts nor are they contrary to our modern English translations...you have shown nothing but your unwillingness to trust in Jesus and attain true knowledge. 

     
  • maxxmaxx 1207 Pts   -  
    i just shown proof . it is your bible that has the alterations, not the earlier ones. any intelligent Christian knows about the differences. they know about the early church and what changes they made, but you do not.  so what makes you believe that your bible is the word of god but not oh i dont know, the geneva bible, the ones the pilgrims brought with them on the may flower. there are added words, verses, different texts, omissions that are in today bibles and so on. but no the great ricky refuses to believe there were no changes   even when shown.  https://www.openthoumineeyes.com/articles/Bible_changes.html ;    learn something about biblical history. if anyone thinks there were no changes, alterations, omissions,  and so on, then their head is not on straight. read the link scaredy cat. it is your bible. @RickeyHoltsclaw
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1318 Pts   -  
    @maxx ; You've shown nothing of the sort. Demonstrate discrepancies by comparison-contrast of those relevant Scriptures you consider inconsistent? 
  • FredsnephewFredsnephew 521 Pts   -  
    Argument Topic: Hey Jeff.

    @JeffreyBlankenship

    All electro-chemical systems firing, and functioning appropriately.


    Why?

    Because.


    What for?

    Chance or purpose.


    Any guesses?

    Yep, just guesses.
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