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Should Existing Evidence Prevail?

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We all (should) know that when it comes down to it, the "Does God Exist" debate is very one-sided in that atheists have abundant evidence, reason and logic in their favour yet, theists have, well, let's face it, nothing to justify their belief.

But wait! Shouldn't evidence be used to determine the right answer, whichever way it goes?

A court of law, for example, must use all the evidence available to determine a case.

It would be unthinkable for a judge to say, "Well, we have all the evidence for the prosecution but the defense doesn't have any yet. When the defense does come up with evidence I shall duly make my finding".

How long are we going to wait for the theist side of the argument to come up with evidence? Another 1700 years?

Or, can we make a judgement now on the available evidence that we do have?



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  • NeopesdomNeopesdom 129 Pts   -  
    That is a lot of talk about evidence from someone that has not produced one shred of it.
      “Never argue with an id'iot They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain
  • JoeKerrJoeKerr 202 Pts   -  
    Argument Topic: No evidence.

    Well then, what's stopping you from destroying the skeptics' and non-believers' arguments? All you have to do is produce the evidence that proves your god exists, and bingo, you get the cigar!
    Would that be a problem for you?@Neopesdom
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  • SwolliwSwolliw 1297 Pts   -  
    @Neopesdom
    That is a lot of talk about evidence from someone that has not produced one shred of it.

    You made the claim....where's your evidence?

  • @Neopesdom

    SwiIIiw does not collect evidence, his claim is because he doesn't collect evidence it is uncollectible which is a fallacy. 
    Neopesdom
  • SwolliwSwolliw 1297 Pts   -  
    @John_C_87
    SwiIIiw does not collect evidence

    Give one instance where that is the case.

    In every single thread and post I make I have thoroughly researched the topic and provided evidence, clear reasoning and logic. Your claim is gutter-level nonsense.

  • Difference Between Evidence and Proof | Definition, Meaning, Usage (pediaa.com)

    A person can say they collect evidence but mean they are only holding limited information to express one side of the whole truth. Not believing a fact and describing it as irrelevant literally states there is evidence not collected by purpose on truth. Any time we feel a piece of information provided is not relevant without explanation detailing the shared excursion of basic principles which negate the truth, evidence is not collected.  

    In reference to GOD as a numerical axiom, education holds mathematics as evidence, yet that evidence held by education is failed to be found at your scene which is on the same planet, same nation, same town, same building, and often the same room as whole truth and piece of evidence.

     thoroughly researched the topic and provided evidence
    This does not mean all evidence will be presented just some evidence. to be proficient at the location of collection of evidence a person must show all information of truth at a scene can in truth be accounted for.

    Also, in regard to any media producing affirmation truth before a broadcast of information as evidence found has not been shared yet as well.
  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 4153 Pts   -  
    Neopesdom said:
    That is a lot of talk about evidence from someone that has not produced one shred of it.
    Lack of evidence in itself is a piece of evidence. If there is zero evidence that you have murdered someone, then that is evidence of your innocence - it does not prove that you are innocent, but it does suggest that prosecuting you is wrong.

    Proving that something does not exist is unnecessary in the absence of any evidence that it does. If I say that goblins exist, you do not need to dedicate your life seeking goblins to prove me wrong; it is sufficient for you to merely point out that I have no evidence to back up my claim, and that is it, you have destroyed my argument.

    For that matter, goblins' existence is a far more sensible hypothesis than gods' existence. You can imagine a goblin that has proper biology and functions as a living being, similar to humans and other animals we know. On the other hand, there is nothing humanity has ever encountered that in any way compares to a "god", thus, empirically, the idea that there is a god is much more insane.
  • @MayCaesar

    Lack of evidence in itself is a piece of evidence.
    Not that I would like to argue that principle, the fact is no evidence of guilt is not evidence of innocence something like an alibi that is creditable is evidence of innocence. 
  • SwolliwSwolliw 1297 Pts   -  
    @John_C_87
    This does not mean all evidence will be presented just some evidence. to be proficient at the location of collection of evidence a person must show all information of truth at a scene can in truth be accounted for.
    Also, in regard to any media producing affirmation truth before a broadcast of information as evidence found has not been shared yet as well.

    You're right there and in the end it is up to the court to determine whether the evidence submitted is "true" or not. Nevertheless, there comes a time in the proceedings when all the evidence that has been submitted is weighed up and a decision, one way or the other has to be made. If there is not enough evidence to make a decision, the case is dismissed.

    Therefore, if a case was brought by a theist that "There is a God", the defense counsel can quite happily go to sleep for the duration of the hearing and doesn't need to offer any evidence in defense.

    That is because the prosecution will have no viable evidence to submit. A theory on axioms alone won't do, nor will hear say so the case would be dulyu dismissed.

  •  That is because the prosecution will have no viable evidence to submit. A theory on axioms alone won't do, nor will hear say so the case would be dulyu dismissed.

    Do you normally find yourself speaking for all sides of an open military tribunal?

    You are confused about a finding in substance of real or fake is not set by truth. In the United States of America, the purpose is to establish reasonable access to a definition of GOD that is not religious. In the preservation of the American Constitution and our delectation of independence, we are only looking for a perfect union of details that presents the mistake of picking the wrong context of truth. In GOD there are two truths one as religion and one as not, the bible also clearly explains the dangers of confusing the two truths.

    GOD As religion and GOD as axiom are two truths not a legal fight of the existing one truth. The axiom is the alibi for context in court and federal use it is the reason why the separation of church and state let it pass. It presented its place by use of honor.

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