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Why Homosexuality - Lesbianism - Transsexualism are the antithesis of a healthy/sustainable society

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Homosexuality - Lesbianism - Transsexualism is a perversion of our Creator's intent as He created them male and female in The Beginning and ordained the Biblical family unit as KEY to the survivability of human kind. It is innate within the conscience of mankind that the penis of a male does not belong in the rectum or mouth of another male nor does the genitalia of two-women bumping and grinding and licking together conform to the intended sexual act between one-man and one-woman for life...this is perversion of the natural order.

Nor does the healthy mind believe that a woman can become a man and vice versa...this is demonic deception that undermines the health, welfare, stability, of any society; therefore, a healthy society naturally concerns itself with its longevity and sustainability; therefore, to tolerate or advocate for sexual perversion and the instruction and support for same in the public square, the public school classroom, through media, is self-destruction, shame, immoral, embarrassing to any people who desire a wholesome life, a strong family unit, a nation under girded by our Creator's blessing and protection.


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  • exconexcon 454 Pts   -  
    RickeyD said:

    Nor does the healthy mind believe that a woman can become a man and vice versa...

    Hello R:

    All that may be true.  However, in this great nation of ours, you're FREE to believe nonsense as long as you don't impress your nonsense on me.

    excon

    piloteer
  • RickeyDRickeyD 770 Pts   -  
    @excon You are free to believe, yes...but don't attempt to take society to Hell with you. Freedom is not the absence of all moral restraint.
  • exconexcon 454 Pts   -  
    RickeyD said:
    @excon You are free to believe, yes...but don't attempt to take society to Hell with you. Freedom is not the absence of all moral restraint.
    Hello again, R:

    One could say, that attempting to STOP someone from exercising their God given rights, is taking this nation to hell..

    excon
  • RickeyDRickeyD 770 Pts   -  
    @excon ; Context required.
  • exconexcon 454 Pts   -   edited April 13
    RickeyD said:

    Context required.
    Hello again, R:

    The words, we have been "endowed by our creator with certain, inalienable rights", are words in our founding documents.  We are not a theocracy.  Religious documents don't apply.  We're a democracy where the freedoms outlined in our Constitution, do apply..

    The 5th Amendment says no person shall be denied "due process of law".  That means if you wish to DENY someone their Constitutional rights, you must PROVE in a court of law, that society is negatively impacted by gay people being gay.  And, in that environment, where religious documents don't apply, you can't win.. 

    So, my friend, if you can argue about the damage gay people cause WITHOUT citing a religious document, I'd be happy to hear your argument..

    excon
  • RickeyDRickeyD 770 Pts   -  
    @excon ; Homosexuality, Lesbianism, Transsexuality are not God-given rights...these are sins against our Holy God and they are an affront to any people who seek to honor God. When I policed this sick society for 31-years, homosexuality - sodomy were against the law of morality and codified as such. With the infusion of Darwinism, Progressivism, Marxism, Liberalism, Wokeism, these demonically under girded forms of societal implosion infiltrated America's social fabric and like a metastasizing malignancy, began to erode that moral fabric that knitted the American people under the protective hand of our Creator.

    Homosexuality, sexual immorality, is a violation of God's moral law and mankind possess no authority to usurp God's sovereignty and all men and women who defile their body with sexual immorality will reap what they are sowing in this life and in the life to come at Judgment lest they repent of their sin and turn to Jesus Christ as their Savior and Mediator for that sin before the Father; otherwise, they will perish in the "second death" in Perdition subsequent the Judgment of the Condemned (Revelation 20:11-15).

    "Gay people" destroy themselves, the society they insist accept them and their immorality as well as the family and the children subject to their immorality. Blatant immorality in America is a shame to our people and our God.




  • exconexcon 454 Pts   -   edited April 13
    @RickeyD
    RickeyD said:

    @excon ; Homosexuality, Lesbianism, Transsexuality are not God-given rights..

    Hello again, Rickey:

    Well, our founding fathers say otherwise.  In this country, freedom is the default.  Therefore, in the absence of laws that say otherwise, gay people are indeed Constitutionally FREE to be gay. 

    So, if you want to pass a law that takes those rights AWAY, it must be done pursuant to "due process of law."  Now, you're free to believe something else.. I'm just explaining the law to you..  I know you don't like it..

    excon
  • RickeyDRickeyD 770 Pts   -  
    Again, freedom is not the absence of all moral and ethical restraint. Our Founders based our Constitutional Republic upon "freedom" of "We the people" as a social experiment contrasting the tyranny that ravaged Socialist and Communist Nations and the tyranny they suffered under a King and a "Church" of England that was truly apostate and defiled politically.

    Our Founder's set forth a form of Government with strict limitations placed on the Federal Government to prevent it from intruding into the personal lives of the citizenry and impeding "happiness" and the "right to life" to become all that God had endowed them to become but there was a most relevant predicate...our Founder's relied completely upon the overwhelming majority of the American society to be redeemed and "born again" by faith in Jesus Christ and thereby led daily by the Holy Spirit in the process of sanctification; in this, society would not require an omnipotent Government with enforcement intruding into every aspect of a man's personal life and occupation. Man's lust and proclivity to abuse would be restrained by the Spirit through sanctification.

    But America's exceptionalism in faith and honor to our God began to change in the late 1800's through the socialistic-progressive idiocy of men like John Dewey and Rousseau...Dewey, "the father of modern education" implemented progressivism into the public schools denying individuality in lieu of the group and this eventually morphed into elitist tyranny and ultimately demonic Darwin and Marx in the classrooms in the early 60's; hence, products such as yourself, atheists, socialists, who have no clue concerning what is required for a healthy, sustainable, happy, prosperous, society...a free society operating within the moral and ethical constraints of our God through His Spirit.


     
     
  • @RickeyD

    What's the argument...transgenderism is bad because the Bible?

    Have you read the Bible? It is rife with examples of unions that cannot be described as 'one man and one woman'. I think some cherry picking may be involved in your premises, sir.
    A supreme being is just like a normal being...but with sour cream and black olives.
  • RickeyDRickeyD 770 Pts   -  
    @SkepticalOne ; Transgenderism is bad not only because it's sin but because it's indicative of mental illness, a loss of or grasp on reality and therefore a sickness in our society of confusion and demonic underpinning that is now worming its way into our elementary schools through demons masquerading as "teachers" and principals and school board members and politicians who have sworn an alliance with the Devil. Transgenderism is mental illness and mandates psychological, spiritual, intervention, not advocacy. 
  • @RickeyD

    Ahh, so you haven't read the Bible and realized it doesn't just condone 'one man and one woman'. Okay, we don't have to talk about that.

    Transgenderism is bad not only because it's sin
    I don't really care about your interpretations of your holy book. There is no mention of transgenderism in the Bible. 

    because it's indicative of mental illness

    Since you are appealing to your own authority, what are your mental health credentials? If you have none, then you are not qualified to make determinations on what is and what is not mental illness.

    Given mental health professionals hold transgenderism is not a mental illness, your conclusion does not even rise to the level of 'dubious' - it is simply false.
    A supreme being is just like a normal being...but with sour cream and black olives.
  • exconexcon 454 Pts   -  
    RickeyD said:

    @SkepticalOne ; Transgenderism is bad not only because it's sin but because it's indicative of mental illness, a loss of or grasp on reality and therefore a sickness in our society of confusion and demonic underpinning that is now worming its way into our elementary schools through demons masquerading as "teachers" and principals and school board members and politicians who have sworn an alliance with the Devil. Transgenderism is mental illness and mandates psychological, spiritual, intervention, not advocacy. 
    Hello again, Rickey:

    Wow!  All that, huh? 

    Ok, let's say you're right.  We've been taken over by demons.  The Devil is running our schools.  What's your plan?  Camps??  Lynching??  War?  Re-training?  Jail??  Mental hospitals??  What?

    If you're really a warrior for Jesus, you must have a plan.  Come on.  Spill it.

    excon
  • RickeyDRickeyD 770 Pts   -  
    The eschatological plan of God is that you and yours will wax worse and worse and you will ultimately be the causation for our Nation's fall into tyranny and a 3rd-World status economically, militarily, ethically, morally. The Millennial and Gen-Z generations, their brainwashing completed in Darwin, Marx, Lenin, sexual perversion, progressivism, wokeness, addiction, reverse racism, equity, 1619 absurdity, CRT demonism, abortion of our children, America will fall and its inability to ally with Israel will be nullified; this, while a coalition of China-Russia-Islam/Iran will soon come against the Nation of Israel in a nuclear conflict which will trigger my Lord's 2nd-Advent and initiate His Millennial Reign.

    Your generation's godlessness and hopelessness, this current vile and perverse generation, has been foretold (2 Timothy 3:1-13) and will surely come to pass before our eyes but my Lord is in control and has not left us unaware though I am saddened to see the beautiful Nation I matured in compromise with the evil and tyranny you espouse and I am so sorry for the World you will leave my beautiful grandson. May my God have mercy on my family.


  • RickeyDRickeyD 770 Pts   -  
    @SkepticalOne ; The insanity of Transgenderism is obvious...what authority is necessary but commonsense?
    SkepticalOne
  • xlJ_dolphin_473xlJ_dolphin_473 1690 Pts   -  
    @RickeyD
    RickeyD said:
    @SkepticalOne ; The insanity of Transgenderism is obvious...what authority is necessary but commonsense?
    How is it insane to suggest that some people may not feel comfortable as their birth sex, and therefore want to identify as a different gender? You must bring valid arguments to the table, rather than simple assertion.
    SkepticalOne
  • RickeyDRickeyD 770 Pts   -  
    @xlJ_dolphin_473 ; Your sex is NOT a feeling but a reality...deal with it and move on.
  • anarchist100anarchist100 605 Pts   -  
    You can believe whatever you want, that's your right, but if you try to violate another person's freedom, it won't end well for you.
  • RickeyDRickeyD 770 Pts   -  
    @anarchist100 ; Why is it that the Transgender movement can violate my rights to live a moral life publicly, speak of morality openly and send my children to public school in obedience to the law but my children must be exposed to CRT, 1619, transgender filth, Darwin, Marx, and my only option to this coercion is expensive private school or home-school? Why am I censored on social media for speaking the truth concerning the perversion of transsexualism, homosexuality, transgenderism, the associated mental illnesses...where is my ability as a citizen to speak freely? Why is the perversion and abortion holocaust of the LEFT OK but my conservative, Christian views are censored...whose being violated?
  • anarchist100anarchist100 605 Pts   -  
    @RickeyD
    I agree with you on public schools, you should not be forced to send your children there, as for social media they are private companies and have every right to decide what they want said on their platform, there are plenty of places on the internet where you can still go to say what you think, this website for example. That being said you desire to violate the freedom of others, just because unlike the lefties you don't have very much power to do it, does not excuse your authoritarian views. We don't need Christian rights, or in Gay rights, we human rights, I think everyone should have the freedom to believe what they want, and live how they want, regardless of how you or I may feel about it, what needs to happen is for Christians, and LGBT people to just accept each others freedom, and stop trying to impose their will on them, when that happens, both sides will be better off.
  • RickeyDRickeyD 770 Pts   -  
    @anarchist100 ; You have every right to believe whatever you desire but you have no right to force your beliefs upon me or coerce me to accept your perversion, your demonic ideology or force same on my children. I have no desire to coalesce with those who serve the devil without shame or embarrassment...I have nothing in common nor do I desire their fellowship.

     
  • anarchist100anarchist100 605 Pts   -  
    @RickeyD
    Did you even read my post? I never said you have to accept LGBT people, I just said you have to leave them alone, and they have to leave you alone. Don't comment on something without even reading it.
  • RickeyDRickeyD 770 Pts   -  
    @anarchist100 ; I disagree...when they come sticking their perversion in my face and demanding that I accept them and honor their demonic ideology and force same on my children, Disney, social media, the classroom, movies, cartoons, I will deny them and fight them and speak the truth.
  • anarchist100anarchist100 605 Pts   -  
    @RickeyD
    You have the right to not have the LGBT lifestyle imposed on you, you do not have the right to prevent others from voluntarily engaging in it, I'm against forcing things on people, so when it comes to forcing the LGBT on children through public schooling I'm siding with you, however if you to to control how other people live their lives I will oppose you, this is not a Christian issue, and this is not a LGBT issue, this is an issue of people not respecting the freedom of others. At one time it was the Christians who where the main aggressors, and now it's the LGBT people, I will always oppose people who try to force their views on and violate the freedom of other people, regardless of which side they are on.
  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 4521 Pts   -   edited April 14
    Well, let us see here... The most prosperous and stable societies, such as those found in the US, Canada, Australia, France, Germany, Japan, South Korea and so on - are much more open towards homosexuality, lesbianism and transsexualism than all other societies, such as those found in Russia, China, India, Saudi Arabia or Venezuela. It appears that your theory does not hold up against the evidence.

    Look around; do you see any healthy sustainable societies organized around religious values? I do not. I do not think that your version of a Christian dictatorship would improve healthiness and sustainability of the mentioned societies, given the historical record of this system.

    I will add that I genuinely pity people like you. It is impossible to even begin to describe just how much enjoyment of life you lose by sticking to this ancient dogma developed to control the confused people of the past. Every day me and other like-minded people get more joy from our lives than you do over your whole life. We live the life to its fullest, while you live your life trying to justify your existence to an imaginary being... That is truly a sad state of affairs. :(
    anarchist100SkepticalOne
  • RickeyDRickeyD 770 Pts   -   edited April 14
    @MayCaesar ; We "people" appreciate your sympathy but your ideology and worldview is of the Devil as far as we're concerned and a life lived honoring the Father through faith in Jesus and obedience to the Holy Spirit is the only life worth living.


  • RickeyD said:
    @MayCaesar ; We "people" appreciate your sympathy but your ideology and worldview is of the Devil as far as we're concerned and a life lived honoring the Father through faith in Jesus and obedience to the Holy Spirit is the only life worth living.


    RickeyD You are like us in disobedience as lying is still a sin to the many people and not any one religion, a sin that requires admission in order to even be forgiven. The use of accusation Biblical or not being by religion and until substantiate With intense studied in a court comprised of the assembly of a constitutional right by state of the union held by the church to the principles of separation of church as stated in its ( the church) address to complaints of grievance.

    Do you duly object to the state of the union Binvir, if so, state your legal objection clearly or forever hold your peace?

    Do you duly object to the state of the union Unosmulier, if so, state your legal objection clearly or forever hold your peace?

    Do you object to the state of the union of UnomMulier, if so, state your legal objection clearly or forever hold your peace?

    There is a limit to the time awarded to any objection. With only the idea of a more perfect union made with truth using self-evident truth as the highest precedent. Call’em out as you see’um self-evident truth. Two men, Two women, Two people man&women.


  • RickeyDRickeyD 770 Pts   -   edited April 14
    @John_C_87 ; The separation of church and state has nothing to do with an absence or restriction of Christianity as our Nation's faith intricately involved in our Nation's policies in the Federal, State and local government but our Founder's wanted to ensure that no single Christian denomination had exclusive control within the Federal Government as they were especially cautions and wary over the Church of England and Catholicism and the apostasy-abuses rampant within them.

    Homosexuality was a shame then and it's a shame now to any people seeking decency and morality and the common good in one Nation under God.


  • anarchist100anarchist100 605 Pts   -  
    @RickeyD
    Yeah well, John Adams also introduced a bill that would make it so that the US government could deport anyone who criticized them, not someone who's opinions you should care very much about.
  • RickeyDRickeyD 770 Pts   -  
    @anarchist100 ; Not aware of that "bill" but the liberal - fascist is not beyond propaganda.If one seeks "citizenship" in the United States, it is incumbent that this person seeking the benefits of an American citizen abide by the laws and policies of the Nation; otherwise, they should be deported. Those unable to identify their sex or the proper sexual function should receive psychological intervention, not advocacy and glorification for their perversion.
  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 4521 Pts   -  
    RickeyD said:
    @MayCaesar ; We "people" appreciate your sympathy but your ideology and worldview is of the Devil as far as we're concerned and a life lived honoring the Father through faith in Jesus and obedience to the Holy Spirit is the only life worth living.
    I am not surprised that you would think this. That you would think that the 5.5 billion of people in the world who are not Christians are all living worthless lives, and that you find the worth of your life in an old dusty tome and there is not much meaning to it beyond that.

    My pity here is very deep. It is not just that you are completely missing all the juice of life, but you are not even aware of that juice's existence. It is like someone who grew up in a prison and has never seen the world outside - and has no idea what it is like to live in the open spaces and to not have to obey the taskmasters all the time.
    exconanarchist100SkepticalOne
  • RickeyDRickeyD 770 Pts   -  
    @MayCaesar ; That is why "many" will lose both body and soul in Hell subsequent to Judgment (Revelation 20:11-15) because they have rejected the ONLY WAY to life in Eternity with the Father, Jesus Christ as Lord believing that Jesus died to pay their sin-debt owed the Father...a debt they could never pay themselves in their self-righteousness (John 14:6).


  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 4521 Pts   -  
    @RickeyD

    So all of the decisions in your life are dictated by what will supposedly happen in the afterlife, according to a dusty all fantasy tome... That is even sadder than what I pointed out above. Your entire life is dark and boring, simply because since childhood you have been afraid of the monster under your bed that, actually, is not there. You are afraid of the judgement of some imaginary dictator and, out of this fear, give up on life and become a servant to a boring and irrelevant cause.

    Look at the people having a blast in life:



    And now compare it to your life:



    Now, if you just were genuinely into reading and philosophy, then the second picture would be quite nice as well. But given that you are doing it, by your own admission, out of fear of what would happen to you after your death afterwards - the second picture is one of unspeakable horror.
  • RickeyDRickeyD 770 Pts   -  
    @MayCaesar ; I have no fear of death as I am a child of the One who conquered death, Hell and the grave for me; therefore, I live in peace knowing that the Devil's servants will reap their just reward in their obfuscation and unbelief and my life in Jesus is secured by His Spirit, forever. You have chosen the Devil's way...that is your right.




  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 4521 Pts   -  
    @RickeyD

    I think you would live in more peace if you embraced a more light-hearted fantasy, such as Harry Potter. But whatever works for you! I prefer the dance floor to the monastery. Unleash the sins!  >:)
  • @RickeyD
     The separation of church and state has nothing to do with an absence or restriction of Christianity as our Nation's faith intricately involved in our Nation's policies in the Federal, State and local government but our Founder's wanted to ensure that no single Christian denomination had exclusive control within the Federal Government as they were especially cautions and wary over the Church of England and Catholicism and the apostasy-abuses rampant within them.

    Homosexuality was a shame then and it's a shame now to any people seeking decency and morality and the common good in one Nation under God. The Plague of religious injustice followed the pilgrim to America from the church of England itself. I do not need to establish that two men are nothing more then two men, while two women are nothing more then two women, a partner. Moreso when it comes to the acquisitions of civil liberty. You have no legal objection to Binvir, Unosmulier, and muliervir, yes, or no?Christianity’s inability to hold self-evident truth in laws regarding marriage and separation of male female couples makes it unfit to hold states of the union regarding agreements elsewhere in public partnerships. To be blunt Christianity abandoned GOD when it refused to honor the terms of marriage itself. Love, honor, and obey till death do you part. This is not the invitation to kill it is the invitation to keep a basic truth alive.

    What is on trail and up for public debate is the failures of the Christian along with other religious lawyers form horning the likely hood of marriage as a whole. As a group held withing a American Constitutional united state of law in contest to being named the more perfect union.

    I find it hard not to believe a legal obligation between any couple and the court could not have been altured without influence on the state of the union made by a likely-hood of marriage itself and the freedom taken when anoucing ones self and husban and wife does not change when the agree to honor and obey to no longer be a united state. The verbal contact states clearly till death of the partisipants, we presume it to be of only natural casues. It was the Court and litigators which broke the likely-hood as a chalange of Athority mistakiing the athentic principle of truth. Even when hurt by one another a couple can still hold a truth larger then themselves by chooice.

    Likelyhoodthe chance that something will happen
    Likelihood Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster
  • RickeyDRickeyD 770 Pts   -  
    @John_C_87 ; There is no "marriage" but the marriage covenant established by Elohim in The Beginning...anything else is simply a perversion of man and the Devil. Please attempt to speak English with understanding...not impressed by confusion. 


  • RickeyDRickeyD 770 Pts   -   edited April 14
    @MayCaesar ; If you desired life, you would not dwell in deception of the Devil and his desires that corrupt the flesh but you would seek our Creator's will for your life and peace with purpose. Existing in the aberrant lust of the flesh only condemns the soul to Hell; therefore, why not humble yourself and purse life in Jesus and LIVE?


  • Cringe_TrainCringe_Train 247 Pts   -  
    RickeyD said:
    Homosexuality - Lesbianism - Transsexualism is a perversion of our Creator's intent as He created them male and female in The Beginning and ordained the Biblical family unit as KEY to the survivability of human kind. It is innate within the conscience of mankind that the penis of a male does not belong in the rectum or mouth of another male nor does the genitalia of two-women bumping and grinding and licking together conform to the intended sexual act between one-man and one-woman for life...this is perversion of the natural order.

    Nor does the healthy mind believe that a woman can become a man and vice versa...this is demonic deception that undermines the health, welfare, stability, of any society; therefore, a healthy society naturally concerns itself with its longevity and sustainability; therefore, to tolerate or advocate for sexual perversion and the instruction and support for same in the public square, the public school classroom, through media, is self-destruction, shame, immoral, embarrassing to any people who desire a wholesome life, a strong family unit, a nation under girded by our Creator's blessing and protection.


    Name me one singular example where a homosexual or trans person has directly impacted your life. Not a bible quote, YOUR life.
  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 4521 Pts   -  
    @RickeyD

    For one, because your fantasy book is inconsequential to my life choices. For another, because I enjoy satisfying my "lust of the flesh" too much to pass it up. And for third, because looking at people like you, I want to be anything but that. :p
    PlaffelvohfenJoeKerr
  • RickeyDRickeyD 770 Pts   -   edited April 14
    @MayCaesar ; Yes, the Holy Spirit has described your ideology and your hopelessness in detail. You won't be alone.




  • RickeyDRickeyD 770 Pts   -  
    @Cringe_Train ; I attempted to explain my experience with the horrors of homosexuality as I policed one of the largest homosexual communities in the United States on four-different shifts but this forum's AI or the moderator deleted it before publication; therefore, I am unable to use the adjectives, pronouns, nouns, verbs, necessary to vividly describe to you the filth, the blood horror, the perversion, the abuse, the hopelessness, the suffering, the trauma, that is the deception of homosexuality - transsexualism - lesbianism.
  • Cringe_TrainCringe_Train 247 Pts   -  
    RickeyD said:
    @Cringe_Train ; I attempted to explain my experience with the horrors of homosexuality as I policed one of the largest homosexual communities in the United States on four-different shifts but this forum's AI or the moderator deleted it before publication; therefore, I am unable to use the adjectives, pronouns, nouns, verbs, necessary to vividly describe to you the filth, the blood horror, the perversion, the abuse, the hopelessness, the suffering, the trauma, that is the deception of homosexuality - transsexualism - lesbianism.
    you can't just dodge my question that easily. 
    Give me an example from your life where you were directly affected by the lgbt community or someone in the community.

  • exconexcon 454 Pts   -   edited April 14
    RickeyD said:
    @Cringe_Train ; I attempted to explain my experience with the horrors of homosexuality as I policed one of the largest homosexual communities in the United States on four-different shifts
    Hello again, Rickey:

    Ok, the software is stopping you here.  But, it won't stop you from telling us WHERE the largest homosexual community in the US is located, and why were you policing them?  Clearly, a community that size, with that much notoriety has been written about and probably has their own website..

    This site isn't stopping you from doing that. 

    excon
  • anarchist100anarchist100 605 Pts   -  
    @RickeyD
    The government does not own all of the land in America, that would be communism. Anyone who wants to should be able to live there.
  • anarchist100anarchist100 605 Pts   -  
    @RickeyD
    I hope that this "psychological intervention" would be voluntary.
  • piloteerpiloteer 1511 Pts   -   edited April 14
    RickeyD said:


    Ummm, your bible quote only talks about what will happen to unrepentant sinners after they die, or in other words, after they no longer are even a member of any society, let alone a "healthy/sustainable society". This quote says nothing about how homosexuality-lesbianism-transsexualism are the antithesis of a healthy sustainable society, and it in no way singles out those things above overall general sinfulness. It just says sinful people will go to hell and those who do not sin will go to heaven. Do you actually have biblical proof that says it is the duty of Christians to stop homosexuality-lesbianism-transsexualism from happening in our society instead of just letting them live their lives freely because god gave us free will (according to the bible)?

    Since the bible says god gave us free will, including the free will to reject god, then your argument to @excon that homosexuals-lesbians- and transsexual people will "take society to hell" is not biblically true. And in the end, whether you can actually give us biblical proof that Christians must stop others from being sinful or everybody will go to hell, or whether you cannot, it doesn't matter, I refuse to live my life in accordance to what Christians want so they won't go to hell. If living my life the way I want means we will all go to hell, then tough $hit for you, because I don't care if you go to hell. 

    "Stiff as a board, ya floored
    Go meet the Lord and then get ignored
    Cos you're on your way to hell."              

                                                           Ice Cube. 

  • @RickeyD
    There is no "marriage" but the marriage covenant established by Elohim in The Beginning...anything else is simply a perversion of man and the Devil. Please attempt to speak English with understanding...not impressed by confusion.  No... I will not speak your idea of English speaking the truth is not bound to only the English language. I agree Christianity has destroyed Marriage by use of lie to replace self-evident truth and now all that is left in Muliervir. I hold a United state of law constitutionally right to place any language on earth together as seen fit in order to establish a more perfect union of self-evident truth.

    Binvir is a self-evident truth to act as a witness account of a legal likelihood made between two men just as unosmulier is a self-evident truth holding two women in a legal likelihood, and no the idea of English only is not a self-evident truth to be held as a legislation in constitutional law.


  • @RickeyD

    No objection with legal reason means no contest to the more perfect union.


  • SwolliwSwolliw 1410 Pts   -  
    @RickeyD
    The true antithesis of a healthy sustainable society is the preaching and spreading of anti-social, destructive, hate-filled propaganda such as the ugly, morbid tripe being peddled by this topic.

    Our free, modern, civilised world has moved on by a long shot from the barbaric, primitive, draconian principals that once segregated society and vilification of minority groups has all but disappeared.

    It is a shame that we still have disreputable individuals who find it necessary to vent their bitter and twisted spleens yet don't even have the backbone to own up to it but instead blame it on their faith.

  • dallased25dallased25 171 Pts   -  
    I thought the OP was going to make an argument for why these things lead to an unhealthy society. It didn't. All it did was proclaim from a religious perspective opinions and rather uninformed ones. No one who isn't christian cares what you think from your religious perspective. It's like if a Muslim came on here and made on OP about why eating pork leads to an unhealthy society and just posted a bunch of stuff from their religious perspective. You as a christian likely wouldn't care at all what Mohammed said, or if they believe Allah commands us to do certain things....because you don't believe Allah is real. Guess what, I don't accept your god either, nor do I care what you believe your "creator" wants. Fact is that individuals practicing a love that's uncomfortable to you, doesn't actually hurt you at all. You may find it gross and unnatural, but no one asked you to like it.

    Now there is a case to be made that certain aspects of LGBTQ culture is indeed a problem for a healthy society, but that case does NOT come from a religious perspective but a cultural one. For example, there are people in that community that wish to teach children that they can choose their own gender from a young age and try to actively promote and encourage kids who "might be confused" to do so as soon as possible. Yet the suicide rate in the trans community is very, very high compared to others and that's even in high acceptance areas. There is also a substantial portion of the trans community who medically transition, who later regret it, become depressed and either re-transition back, or end up committing suicide. That indicates that there's an unaddressed mental aspect to having "gender dysphoria", that needs attention, but is being overlooked because of the hyper-sensitivity of the LGBTQ community and resistance to being told that anything is wrong with them as individuals. So there is a large push by this community to basically increase their numbers, but to not address the potential problems of individuals within their community, which will ultimately lead to more suicides and problems. You also have areas in certain parts of the US, such as in northern California, Seattle and others where these communities are in abundance and those communities score very poorly in societal health (wages, taxes, happiness, political unrest, etc). 

    Bottom line is, if you are going to make an argument against something, then do so from an educated and empirical perspective. Religious ones without an data, with nothing more than personal opinions and religious bias, will never be helpful, nor convincing. For example saying (this part wasn't meant for this hole), is just an uninformed opinion and not an empirical one. 
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