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Should people be sent to prison FOR punishment or AS punishment? Do you understand the distinction?

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Hello:

FOR punishment means that it's up to the institution to inflict punishment. 

AS punishment means the sentence itself IS the punishment.

In one, prisoners are treated humanely.  The other is a house of horrors.. 

excon



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  •  What do you feel is the United States Constitutional union held by incarceration within a prison?

     A person is said in a political sense to be sent to prison as a punishment for a crime. this does not mean a search for a whole truth held by a person within a constitutional right has the same answer as the political answer. The political answer may be imperfect because of hidden costs made by that particular connection of people and established justice. 

    "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

    I do not see the distinction as relevant to the preservation of United States Constitutional right. Fact, people are not held as a united state of law only in correctional institutions they are released on bale, charged fines, placed on parole, and held in house arrest.

  • @jack

    The United States Constitutional grievance a conviction of crime holds with a person convicted of breaking the law is not held in a limit by law to one wrong as suggested, the wrong described and labeled in the writing of law which was violated is only the first choice in an attempt at securing liberty to ourselves meaning those people holding a state union with American United States Constitution and not a private constitution set around our own beliefs...

    Do you understand that difference?


  • jackjack 81 Pts   -  
    John_C_87 said:
    @jack

    Do you understand that difference?

    Hello John:

    No..  Try as I might, I never understand what you say.

    excon
  • jack said:
    John_C_87 said:
    @jack

    Do you understand that difference?

    Hello John:

    No..  Try as I might, I never understand what you say.

    excon

    What I have to say is complicated....

    As a common grounds of distinction people go to prison neither as punishment, or for punishment, institutional incarceration is a cost of failing to hold American united states constitutional right by a person so that when terms of incarceration take place within the United States of America the crime is simply the type of state of the union failure which has taken place on record.


  • NoUsernameNoUsername 15 Pts   -   edited November 28
    In countries where different types of punishment are available, a person may go to jail:

    - for punishment: when prison is the only available option. For example, a burglar will go to jail in order to be punished for his crime

    - as punishment: when prison is not necessarily the only option. This entails a choice on the type of punishment. For example, a killer may well be sent to prison as a punishment, or executed as a punishment.

    In some countries, a killer is executed for punishment of his crime because no other type of punishment is available.

    my head hurts now 

  • @jack

    We do not constitutionally as a united state send all people to prison as punishment this is a political claim not Constitutional defense, preservation, or protection incarceration is a formation of united state to ensure tranquility by separation and it is simply the separation process that is the constitutional outcome to any conviction of crimes. Plus, by ratification of the American 13th Amendment also any mean a person is enslaved and the legal defense for such detainment is above and beyond constitutional separation. An argument of the state of the union becomes has legal counsel as united state wrongfully increased the costs of conviction on “We the people”? 

    We do not constitutionally punish as a united state by sending people to prison, punishment describe politically what a lawyer or legal counsel describes as punishment in the sale of justice by licensing to the public. Incarceration is only a formation of unionization to ensure general welfare and tranquility by separating the convicted from society. The argument is over having a group of people in political sense, by licensing claim a better way without challenges while seeking political office by pooling votes by committing an untested perjury against the American United States Constitution. As when saying as a lie on an official document that criminals convicted are by fact punished for a crime and simply are not by truth only alienated from the general welfare. As we do not insure the any punishment in advance can meet qualifications to serve as ample punishment for wrong. The alienation by confinement or by Capital punishment is to address the incrimination made by the violation of constitutional Right / Higher law.

    We do not constitutionally as a united state send all people to prison as punishment this is a political claim not Constitutional defense, preservation, or protection incarceration is a formation of united state to ensure tranquility by separation and it is simply the separation process that is the constitutional outcome to any conviction of crimes. Plus, by ratification of the American 13th Amendment also any mean a person is enslaved and the legal defense for such detainment is above and beyond constitutional separation. An argument of the state of the union becomes has legal counsel as united state wrongfully increased the costs of conviction on “we the people”? 


  • @jack

    In perspective of American United States Constitutional Right a man can claim openly from the people he may seek access to Executive office not President by the public vote as this achievement of Presidency is beyond their powers and Constitutional Right, nor is it the powers of electoral college to give to not just him but any man or women, and there are certain Constitutional Right that are by law of nature inalienable and among these Supreme Rights, self-evident truth all woman are ambassador to the potential immigrant which lives within their very substance as women. This Right can be explained as additional supreme right by calling all women elected to One Executive Office of the United States of America, Presadera.

    All men are created equal by thier creator. And while true; All women are created equal by their. 


  • MichaelElpersMichaelElpers 988 Pts   -  
    @jack

    Requires both.  If they are sent as punishment but prison is just a fairyland then it's not much of a punishment.
    The confinement must at least be an unenjoyable experience.
  • jackjack 81 Pts   -  
    @jack

    Requires both.  If they are sent as punishment but prison is just a fairyland then it's not much of a punishment.
    The confinement must at least be an unenjoyable experience.
    Hello M:

    Thank you for taking the time to understand what I was asking, and addressing it.

    I'm not talking about a fairyland..  Just a facility that houses, feeds, clothes, and tends to one's medical needs..  I believe confinement such as that, would be highly unenjoyable.

    excon

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