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When will WW3 start.
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By LogicLogic 270 Pts
All this commotion on youtube about WW3, People saying it will be in the next few months.   What do you guys think?
joecavalrytherepstatesjoderon_17kmelkevolution17
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    Will WW3 happen soon?

    15 votes
    1. Yes.
      20.00%
    2. No.
      46.67%
    3. Probably.
      33.33%



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  • No, I don't think it will occur so fast and hopefully it won't occur at all. I do think a major war in the Middle East could occur.
    George_Horse
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  • LogicLogic 270 Pts
    No, I don't think it will occur so fast and hopefully it won't occur at all. I do think a major war in the Middle East could occur.
    The major war in the middle east has already begun.  I think WW3 is around the corner, I am really hoping nukes will be banned though.
    Schatzi11
  • @Logic, based on what evidence are you thinking WW3 will start soon?  Are you thinking North Korea will initiate action and tie in russia?

    i don't think that the overall conflict progressed too far yet to kick off ww3.
  • LogicLogic 270 Pts
    @islander507 I feel like russia and america hate eachother, Kim jong un is just retarded and crazy, That's why i think so.
    therep
  • thereptherep 61 Pts
    I agree with @logic.
  • agsragsr 861 Pts
    @Logic, that is certainly possible, although I doubt it will actually happen near term
    statesjoderon_17
    Live Long and Prosper
  • edited May 2017
    Forget ISIS, wype out North Korea first then take care of the terrorists. Although, they all to be under the same or simialar category of terrorism, just being ISIS is worse.
  • @statesjoderon_17, I am also concerne about both North Korea and ISIS. Agree that North Korea is a larger threat. I would deal with it first as you suggested before one of their weapons actually works and they develop nuclear capability 
    natbarons
  • I agree with @islnder507 .
  • LogicLogic 270 Pts
    @statesjoderon_17, I am also concerne about both North Korea and ISIS. Agree that North Korea is a larger threat. I would deal with it first as you suggested before one of their weapons actually works and they develop nuclear capability 
    'before one of their weapons actually works'   :D that was the best joke i heard all week.
  • I think that it might happen because now that Trump is traveling to different countries like Saudi Arabia and trying to work things out I think but then again you have the Russians that hate us. You have Kim Jong Un who hates us and then you have ISIS, which it seems almost wants to start war with us so I think the door is cracked open but another one or two wrong moves from Trump could probably result in the door being wide open and WW3 begins.
  • LogicLogic 270 Pts
    @averyapro Russia doesn't hate america.  Putin has said once in a talk, He doesn't want to have war with america. But if he is forced to, he will. Kim Jong Un is just a psychopath, Forget him he can't do bomb anyone let alone hurt a fly. IS won't be able to get near america, I think your forgetting how strong the US army is.
  • CYDdhartaCYDdharta 1275 Pts
    Anyone who thinks WWIII is just around the corner has never lived through the cold war.
  • LogicLogic 270 Pts
    @CYDdharta  What's the cold war?  [Sorry didn't study this before.]
  • CYDdhartaCYDdharta 1275 Pts
    @Logic The Cold War was the nuclear standoff between the US and the USSR that took place from the 1950s until the fall of Soviet Union.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War

  • LogicLogic 270 Pts
    That war seems kind of pointless to me.  
    kmelkevolution17
  • No, Trump is fighting for peace globally.
    LogicGeorge_Horse
  • LogicLogic 270 Pts
    No, Trump is fighting for peace globally.
    Funniest thing i heard all day!  Bombing syrians is really peaceful, I agree with you on that.
    George_HorseZombieguy1987
  • Global wars involving multiple states only happen when a very heavy global crisis occurs. In case of World War 1, it was a large number of nationalistic disputes and political tensions in Europe brewing for many decades and finally erupting in a loud bang - and World War 2 essentially occurred due to a heavy ideological crisis in Eurasia due to the rise of socialist and ultra-nationalist ideologies and unresolved issues left over from the World War 1.

    The world today is a much more stable and diplomacy-friendly place than it was at, pretty much, any point before early 1990-s (although arguably less so than it was a few years ago). While the consensus among the First World countries on striving for globalization and unity has been somewhat spoiled, they still all agree on the general idea of peaceful cooperation and working for the mutual benefit. In addition, after the fall of the Soviet Union, the ideals of democracy and liberty exploded and spread around the world - and even the harshest dictatorships now, at least, have to pretend that they abide by those ideals, or if they do not, that they have a very good reason not to.

    The only region where I see the possibility of anything even remotely resembling a global conflict happening is the Middle East, with its centuries-old unresolved religious, territorial and ethnic tensions, as well as a vested interests of superpowers in different directions of the region's evolution. However, it is unlikely to grow into anything more than a clash between a few Islamic countries, and the US, Europe, Russia and China supplying them with resources. It would definitely be unpleasant, but hardly qualify to be called a "World War". 

    As far as the possibility of a military conflict between the US and Russia, or the US and China, goes, I do not see it happening any time soon, if ever. The US military power far surpasses even Russian and Chinese military powers combined. Russian leadership understands it, and it also understands that its survival depends on Switzerland and the US letting them keep their money in their banks, and Europe buying their natural resources, so it is unlikely to do anything that will jeopardize this relationship. As for China, it expands its influence in a very intelligent way: through diplomacy, trade and financial investment, rather than through blackmail, extortion and territorial expansion. It has no reason to wage a war against its primary economical partner under, pretty much, any circumstances.
    And as for the hypothetical scenarios of "a Russian plane in Syria shot down by the US military, leading to a nuclear war" - come on now. There were much larger incidents during Cold War, incidents where planes were shot down left and right, and entire guerrilla wars were waged on certain third-party territories - yet the nukes were never used. Contrary to the popular opinion, initiation of a nuclear strike is not something that can be done by pressing a red button even in such a centralized totalitarian country as North Korea, and it will never happen over some minor incident.
  • World War IIL, like I, and II, have come and gone, the difference is that the first 2 Global Wars where conducted and documented with obvious signs of invasion and aggression set against each Nation. What derived the denial of a 3rd World War was the specification it was to be a Nuclear War not simple just another Armed Conflict between countries.

    We are somewhere around World War VII give or take, and still no Full blown Chemical War which is what a Nuclear War is by it design. By the way for the Official record Thermal Nuclear War I is in a precedent by itself and not a World War at all.

  • Logic said:
    No, Trump is fighting for peace globally.
    Funniest thing i heard all day!  Bombing syrians is really peaceful, I agree with you on that.
    There were actually some terrorists that were killed. 
    "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? " ~Epicurus

    "Americanism not Globalism, will be our credo." ~Donald Trump

    "A communist is like a crocodile" ~Winston Churchill
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