Can a woman rape a man?

just_sayin

Argument Topic: A woman can rape a man

Rape is about imposing sexual violence upon someone against their will and committing an illegal act.  To say that because the man had an erection so it isn't rape, is just like saying that if the woman has an orgasm during a rape,, then she wanted it., Both are blaming the victim for having biological reactions while ignoring the forced act against them.  Rape is about the committing of a sex act without the person's approval.  Men or women can commit it.

Barnardot

@just_sayin Well ok then I reckon that if you look into it why does a woman have an orgasim. Sure its biological but the biological reaction is triggered off by what the woman thinks and if the woman starts thinking oh wow this is good after a few minutes even if she didn't want it to start with then it cant be rape. And its just like a man to. Even though it is a biological thing when he gets it up I reckon he must have thought something after a while like wow this chick isn't to bad after all. So thats why I stated the case of Viagra because that would be totally biological and even if it was your ugly fat grand mother trying it on then it is the drugs talking and that would be rape for sure.

John_C_87

@Barnardot ;

Rape is not a whole truth to be sworn while under oath, nor self-evident truth to be used to establish a state of constitutional union, a woman is not in whole truth ever raped she is sexually assaulted by a women, depending on the type of sexual assault a man is more often simply attempting a form of murder and not sexual assault by the constitutional state of the union made by the aggression of sexual assault. 

The argument is over has the united states Constitution described clear instruction in the best connection to be made between women and established justice by women the answer is no it has not be a perfect state of the union. We then go on to say that after the fact of imperfect state of the union women have used the lack of perfection to ignore the assembly of their own states of the union as if they could not exist had they made them.

Yes a women can sexually assault a man the only difference between a male sexual assault and female sexual assault is a female sexually assault may progress by law of nature to attempted murder. It is only the male sexual assault which by law of nature does not progress into attempted murder of murder of some other degree. The women must advance past laws of nature and apply physical harm and not depend on possibilities of pregnancy.

Barnardot

@John_C_87 ;a female sexually assault may progress by law of nature to attempted murder.

Ive watched a lot of Monsters documentaries and they go in to what motorvates rapist murderers and they are just about all cereal. But there has never been a woman who has done that. When a woman wants to rape a man I reckon its because she is a nympho and it is more like an addiction and she cant help her self and knows that a man would never tell the cops. A man on the other hand usually kills a woman after rapping her because its all part of the process of taking control.

John_C_87

@Barnardot
Rape is a form of slang to describe a series of sexual asualts or attempts at taking a womens life I think you are oversimplifing the idea of criminal bounderies of law describing rape and below under the word Rape is the reason why.

Realistically you are talking about reasons why a women would have not been allowed to vote for Presdient of the United States of America outside the conditional limits of the 19th Amendment. The argument of debate being a state of the union set that Congress and States have not enforced even undermines the Articles of American Consitution approproiatly in leglsation. ( Law) The short story here is the 13 and 19th Amedments can be palced inside a self-evidnet truth and held much more effective as a single Amendmednt to American Consitution.
U.S. Constitution - Nineteenth Amendment | Resources | Constitution Annotated | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

RAPE
10 U.S. Code § 920 - Art. 120. Rape and sexual assault generally | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (cornell.edu)
(a)Rape.—Any person subject to this chapter who commits a sexual act upon another person by—

(1)

using unlawful force against that other person;

(2)

using force causing or likely to cause death or grievous bodily harm to any person;

(3)

threatening or placing that other person in fear that any person will be subjected to death, grievous bodily harm, or kidnapping;

(4)

first rendering that other person unconscious; or

(5)

administering to that other person by force or threat of force, or without the knowledge or consent of that person, a drug, intoxicant, or other similar substance and thereby substantially impairing the ability of that other person to appraise or control conduct;

is guilty of rape and shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

(b)Sexual Assault.—Any person subject to this chapter who—

(1)commits a sexual act upon another person by—

(A)

threatening or placing that other person in fear;

(B)

making a fraudulent representation that the sexual act serves a professional purpose; or

(C)

inducing a belief by any artifice, pretense, or concealment that the person is another person;

(2)commits a sexual act upon another person—

(A)

without the consent of the other person; or

(B)

when the person knows or reasonably should know that the other person is asleep, unconscious, or otherwise unaware that the sexual act is occurring; or

(3)commits a sexual act upon another person when the other person is incapable of consenting to the sexual act due to—

(A)

impairment by any drug, intoxicant, or other similar substance, and that condition is known or reasonably should be known by the person; or

(B)

a mental disease or defect, or physical disability, and that condition is known or reasonably should be known by the person;

is guilty of sexual assault and shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

(c)Aggravated Sexual Contact.—

Any person subject to this chapter who commits or causes sexual contact upon or by another person, if to do so would violate subsection (a) (rape) had the sexual contact been a sexual act, is guilty of aggravated sexual contact and shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

(d)Abusive Sexual Contact.—

Any person subject to this chapter who commits or causes sexual contact upon or by another person, if to do so would violate subsection (b) (sexual assault) had the sexual contact been a sexual act, is guilty of abusive sexual contact and shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

(e)Proof of Threat.—

In a prosecution under this section, in proving that a person made a threat, it need not be proven that the person actually intended to carry out the threat or had the ability to carry out the threat.

(f)Defenses.—

An accused may raise any applicable defenses available under this chapter or the Rules for Court-Martial. Marriage is not a defense for any conduct in issue in any prosecution under this section.

(g)Definitions.—In this section:

(1)Sexual act.—The term “sexual act” means—

(A)

the penetration, however slight, of the penis into the vulva or anus or mouth;

(B)

contact between the mouth and the penis, vulva, scrotum, or anus; or

(C)

the penetration, however slight, of the vulva or penis or anus of another by any part of the body or any object, with an intent to abuse, humiliate, harass, or degrade any person or to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person.

(2)Sexual contact.—

The term “sexual contact” means touching, or causing another person to touch, either directly or through the clothing, the vulva, penis, scrotum, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person, with an intent to abuse, humiliate, harass, or degrade any person or to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person. Touching may be accomplished by any part of the body or an object.

(3)Grievous bodily harm.—

The term “grievous bodily harm” means serious bodily injury. It includes fractured or dislocated bones, deep cuts, torn members of the body, serious damage to internal organs, and other severe bodily injuries. It does not include minor injuries such as a black eye or a bloody nose.

(4)Force.—The term “force” means—

(A)

the use of a weapon;

(B)

the use of such physical strength or violence as is sufficient to overcome, restrain, or injure a person; or

(C)

inflicting physical harm sufficient to coerce or compel submission by the victim.

(5)Unlawful force.—

The term “unlawful force” means an act of force done without legal justification or excuse.

(6)Threatening or placing that other person in fear.—

The term “threatening or placing that other person in fear” means a communication or action that is of sufficient consequence to cause a reasonable fear that non-compliance will result in the victim or another person being subjected to the wrongful action contemplated by the communication or action.

(7)Consent.—

(A)

The term “consent” means a freely given agreement to the conduct at issue by a competent person. An expression of lack of consent through words or conduct means there is no consent. Lack of verbal or physical resistance does not constitute consent. Submission resulting from the use of force, threat of force, or placing another person in fear also does not constitute consent. A current or previous dating or social or sexual relationship by itself or the manner of dress of the person involved with the accused in the conduct at issue does not constitute consent.

(B)

A sleeping, unconscious, or incompetent person cannot consent. A person cannot consent to force causing or likely to cause death or grievous bodily harm or to being rendered unconscious. A person cannot consent while under threat or in fear or under the circumstances described in subparagraph (B) or (C) of subsection (b)(1).

(C)

All the surrounding circumstances are to be considered in determining whether a person gave consent.

(8)Incapable of consenting.—The term “incapable of consenting” means the person is—

(A)

incapable of appraising the nature of the conduct at issue; or

(B)

physically incapable of declining participation in, or communicating unwillingess to engage in, the sexual act at issue.

Dee

@Barnardot


even if it was your ugly fat grand mother trying it on then it is the drugs talking and that would be rape for sure.

Don't stress it to much B I know incest is a thing in your family ......also stop lying your grandma didn't have to drug you as you were ready , willing and able without the necessity of drugs 

Barnardot

@Dee ;Don't stress it to much B I know incest is a thing in your family ......also stop lying your grandma didn't have to drug you as you were ready , willing and able without the necessity of drugs 

Well this is right but some times I have to put my bear googles on and then lick the sweat off my grandpa s back while giving him one in the rare while my sister gets the dog ready. Because in the end i would get so despirit  I would do a rattel snake with a fested rare end but only if you hold his head down though.

theinfectedmaster

Argument Topic: As a woman myself, I say no.

I think it's terrible why anyone would say it's okay to rape anyone. Having sex without anyone's consent is 100% not okay.

Barnardot

@theinfectedmaster ;I think it's terrible why anyone would say it's okay to rape anyone. Having sex without anyone's consent is 100% not okay.

Well that has nothing to do with the topic and nobody here even said that so I reckon your just making up something that was never said just to make a point.

Nomenclature

@Barnardot

Well that has nothing to do with the topic and nobody here even said that so I reckon your just making up something that was never said just to make a point.

I reckon you're a girlie boy dufiss who sings to himself in the shower.

Dee

@Barnardot

Beer goggles do truly awful things to a man's mind, but I always say " dirty water will quench a fire " .......You're a good sport B you would be a fun guy to go on the rip with some night.....

jack

Barnardot said:

Can a woman rape a man?

Hello B:

Sure..  Some women orgasm during a rape.  That doesn't mean she wanted to get raped..  Seems to me that some men could be turned on by the sex and NOT want to be raped either..

excon

Barnardot

@jack ;That doesn't mean she wanted to get raped.

Okay so theres where we get into the gray area of weather she didn't want it at first but when he got going she really did want it. Because people change there minds. And then theres the other gray area when she stands up in court and says she said no a hundred times. But then from the guys point of view she was saying oh no no no no oh no nooooooooo and then she comes which means that all those nos just ment that she was really enjoying it and wanted it more. But all shes trying to do is do him for rape then sue him for all hes got.

John_C_87

@Barnardot

Just to be clear what you are trying to say is the male understood her "No." to mean do not stop and not "no" she no longer consents to copulation. Right? My only argument is the connection a woman is allowing to be made with all women with established justice by calling this type of sexual assault rape s week and imperfect. Over all the conditions set in place by abortion and how it was viewed by many people including women has set a poor example of connections to established justice. The second major issue is set by the promiscuous people by the idea of the sexual revolution had set as a false narrative in marriage. The publics opinion that a women’s life is not in some kind of danger when ever having a sexual relationship Married or not. It is only minimized by medical care and her own actions and by law of nature it is her own actions which take priority.

OakTownA

@Barnardot
"A man on the other hand usually kills a woman after rapping her because its all part of the process of taking control."
Most rapes do not end in murder. Let's look at the numbers:
In 2020 in the US, 3,573 women were murdered. Now, not all of those people were also sexually assaulted, and since I was not able to find a statistic for the number of women who were murdered after being raped, let's use the standard 1 in 5 statistic. 3,573/5= 714.6. So, of those 3,500+ women, 715 were likely also raped. In the same year and country, there were 144,300 women who reported being raped. I say "reported," because rape is one of the most under reported crimes in the US. This means that of the women who were raped, 0.49% were killed. Now, even if we assume that every single one of those women who were murdered were also raped, that still means the vast majority of women who were raped were not killed.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/251877/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-race-ethnicity-and-gender/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191137/reported-forcible-rape-cases-in-the-usa-since-1990/

"Okay so theres where we get into the gray area of weather she didn't want it at first but when he got going she really did want it. Because people change there (sic) minds. "
No. Having an orgasm does not mean that she "really did want it," just like a man can have an erection and not want to have sex. In fact, 4-5% of people who reported their rapes also reported having an orgasm, and the actual numbers may be higher than that, as many, like you, think that somehow that means that they "wanted it." Our bodies respond to sex, regardless of whether or not we want it to. I'm sure many if not most of the people on this forum who have penises have had an untimely erection or an erection they did not want. Same kind of thing. 
"In other words, the mental and physical components of human sexuality often run in parallel and in agreement – but not always. In fact, sexual arousal and other forms of heightened sensation are so closely intertwined that as of 2010, psychologists were still arguing in the scientific journals about “the exact meaning of sexual arousal,” or what, exactly, we should call it." 
"Arousal during rape is an example of a physical response whether the mind’s on board or not, like breathing. Adding to the issue is that sexual arousal and orgasm appear to originate from the autonomic nervous system— the same reflex-driven system that underlies heart rate, digestion, and perspiration. Our control over sexual arousal is no better than our control over the dilation of our pupils or how much we sweat. The presence of sexual arousal during rape is about as relevant to consent as any of these other responses." Sexual arousal is not 100% within our control.
https://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-05/science-arousal-during-rape/

As for the OP, of course men can be raped by women.  Rape includes more acts than penile-vaginal/anal penetration. A woman could use an object to penetrate him against his will, or force him to have oral sex with her, or force oral sex upon him. None of these require that he have an erection, and even if he did, if she has sex with him without his consent, it is rape.

John_C_87

As for the OP, of course men can be raped by women.  Rape includes more acts than penile-vaginal/anal penetration. A woman could use an object to penetrate him against his will, or force him to have oral sex with her, or force oral sex upon him. None of these require that he have an erection, and even if he did, if she has sex with him without his consent, it is rape.
Here is a issue that lessens the state of the union made between the word rape and established justice compared to the words sexual asualt. Rape is described as a forced sexual act and concent alone does not ensure a sexual act was forced on some one.

(a)Rape.—Any person subject to this chapter who commits a sexual act upon another person by—

(1)

using unlawful force against that other person;

(2)

using force causing or likely to cause death or grievous bodily harm to any person;

(3)

threattening or placing that other person in fear that any person will be subjected to death,grievous bodily harm, or kidnapping;

(4)

first rendering that other person unconscious; or

(5)

administering to that other person by force or threat of force, or without the knowledge or consent of that person, a drug, intoxicant, or other similar substance and thereby substantially impairing the ability of that other person to appraise or control conduct;

is guilty of rape and shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

10 U.S. Code § 920 - Art. 120. Rape and sexual assault generally | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (cornell.edu)

(5) Unlawful force .— The term “unlawful force” means an act of force done without legal justification or excuse.

As for the OP, of course men can be raped by women

No, Men like women can call a sexual assault rape. A whole truth and a fact remain a fact however no matter what is said by a witness or victim of crime.
What is important to mention OakTownA is that it is the poor connection women have taken part in to constitutional established justice all along which creates grievances with many women. A "person" using the wording rape for a connection to lesser law creates more complex issues with legal justification and excuse as alibi. As a male who may be sexually assaulted by a female it is a better connection to both United States Constitution and whole truth if a male would by law claim knowledge of a possible murder and claim themselves as accessory to murder.

John_C_87

@Barnardot

On a United State Constitutional level, it would appear you are looking for justification or excuse from participating in an act of sex which had unexpected turned into sexual assault. Again, in whole truth, we are all asking for a united state with American constitution explaining the failures that women have made over the decades in their presentation to states of the union with American Constitutional Right. There is no sugar coting whole truth so I would hope OakTownA and other women who read this as constructive guidance in understanding connections to constitutional "Right." Any person including women will not create the more perfect state of the union in their first try, it could even though painfully take a thousand try's. It is important to say this also, women may have failed in accomplishing a task they had chosen plain and simple this under no conditions does not mean they have not been deceived, skillfully manipulated, or had made some other deal to be doomed to fail.

To understand clearly what is taking place overall we are to look at the state of the union with established justice taking place within some written laws in whole truth. The two first connections are between rape and abortion, the second connections are between marriage and divorce, third is sex and pregnancy. In conclusion however in this writing it should be add the connection to law that is made by the legal idea of rape is a women or man can be criminal held for raping themselves, and blaming another for that rape. It should also be noted this does not mean in a mean, aggressive, intrusive, and abusive assaulting way of attack would a person rape themselves but it is most commonly described as pity sex.

It is highly under rated just how much work must go into gathering whole truth from a series of self-evident truth’s to be humanly held as a United State Constitutional Right, let alone use them in establishing better law guiding the people. At this point in American history, it is even overwhelmingly damaging that a woman is not held as a “Presadera” on her assent to the executive office as it is a criminally untested perjury held against the people by the courts process to allow her to be called President as a witness called to speak of whole truth before American Constitution.