The earth is flat

SilverishGoldNova

@Coveny More random stuff I see

SilverishGoldNova

@Coveny So much random stuff

SilverishGoldNova

Coveny said:

SilverishGoldNova said:

@Coveny Here we go again with the "lol ur lul""

When adults speak? Really? For a person who is lecturing me on "When adults speak".... you sure do act like a child alot. 

How would you know how adults act? I mean really you have the intellect of a child, so I'm god in your world!!!

No, in my world, you're just some random guy who thinks calling people and muttering random stuff can debunk the flat Earth, creationism, etc. Jeez, you have a real sense of Grandiosity it seems. 

SilverishGoldNova

@Coveny Now I will have to ask you to exit the room, and bring back someone who actually is willing to have a discussion, without just dismissing everything as "you dont understand" or " nuh uh", using constant fallacies and bringing up random stuff. Do you need a towel, by the way? It's about time I finally asked, before you go? In other words, I'll stop responding to you, I think I lose brain cells everytime I read your posts.

Coveny

m_abusteit said:

@Coveny

I would have assumed that the only book that atheists read "Mein Kampf" should have educated you on Hitler's religion. Hitler's real name is adolf shuckelgruber which means he has jewish parents. In Meinkampf, he explictly says, that he will make up his religion to gain the support of the catholics. He literally said he will make the lie big until everyone believes it including idiots like you. He has been reported multiple times of sending jews to auschwitz, disabled catholics, just catholics, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_persecution_of_the_Catholic_Church_in_Poland

https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/st.-teresa-benedicta-of-the-cross-on-gods-providence

You see what your shitty retarded we-came-from-soup-and-apes faith does ^^. 

"Stalin was raised by abusive theist parents and hated religion because of it."

So you admit Stalin was an extreme atheist who eradicated and butchered religion.

"Kim Jong-Un thinks he's a god, so he believes in at least ONE god." 

Facepalm. This is a shitty excuse tbh. Kim Jung butchers anybody in North Korea who says God exists.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Religion_and_Atheism_in_North_Korea

I like how you informally agreed and justified that Mao, Pol Pot and Enver Hoxha along with other retarded animals like you are ookay and were justified in the genocide. Your ideology is worse than ISIS.

"I have proof and evidence"

You do not. You seriously do not. All the "proofs" for evolution have been debunked in my most recent post.

You need to stop because you are just making an out of yourself. You are embarrasing yourself and showing everybody how much of an you are. 

Hitler 1889 - 1945
"I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator". - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 2.
Is that the part where you think we stop? Mein Kampf was published in 1925 right?

"To do justice to God and our own conscience, we have turned once more to the German Volk".- Adolf Hitler in speech about the need for a moral regeneration of German, February 10, 1933
Or maybe that one?

"I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work." - Adolf Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936

If you think Hitler was an atheist you're the . 

Stalin
Theist beat a child their whole life, and they hate theist for it, you'll have to take credit for what theist created. He wasn't an atheist, he was anti-theist. He hated the community, and god that allow him to be tortured threw his whole childhood. That's on theists... not athiest. You reap what you sow.

Kim Jong-Un
Shitty excuse? I guess you another who thinks you can be an athiest and believe in gods. Spoiler alert you can't. If you believe in ANY gods you aren't an athiest, you are theist. (it doesn't matter if the god you believe is yourself, still counts) So if Kimmy believes himself a god... he's a theist not an atheist, don't get pissy because his fantasy is different from your fantasy.

Mao, Pol Pot and Enver Hoxha
I just missed Mao, you didn't mention Pol Pot or Enver Hoxha (that's a new one too me) but we can go through those as well if you like just let me know. While I wait for your reply though, please start explaining genocide in the bible, the crusades, holy wars, AIDs in africa, witch burning, etc. Because atheist win the death count debate every time even if we give you the one's you falsely attribute to atheism.

You haven't proved anything. You asked 4th grade questions because you don't understand evolution, and because you can't answer my response you ignore it.

Coveny

Erfisflat said:

Ad hominem: when you substitute a personal attack in an argument for a rebuttal.

Talking smack: when you successfully rebut, then have a laugh on their account.

Like I said ad hominem all day with you. You have "rebut" nothing of mine, so you resort to personal attacks and ridcule, then cry when I beat you at that too. (Coveny you're so mean... wahhhh!!!) 

Coveny

SilverishGoldNova said:

@Coveny "I've never used strawman/cherry picking"

Oh really? You mean besides when you said Erfisflat was an anti-vaxxer, when you ignored the article I sent, bringing up quotes from trolls/shills and using that trying to refute our arguments with that, etc? 

Not to mention the times you flipped your conclusions 180 when it was convenient, and painted it as our actual arguments. 

Erfisflat stated he WAS an anti-vaxxer. That's not a strawman, that is precognition. I spread the truth, and you claim it to be fallacies... as usual.

"times I flipped my conclusions 180"? Really, show me were that happened ONCE, much less multiple times. See this is what Erfisflat does, he LIES, and I catch him is lies, then I show how he's a . You want to dance buttercup, let's go. I have no problem making you look like a fool as well.

SilverishGoldNova

@Coveny Perhaps I have time for just 1 more reply

"You want to dance buttercup, I have no problem making you look like a fool as well" Well, apparently that hasn't been going very well for you, hasn't it? Nice try, but it doesnt seem to have gone well so far. 

Am I an anti-vaxxer for saying it's not an insult, it's a position. Because thats you're logic with Erfisflat. Not to mention you said it was being used as an insult, and then when you were called out you denied it ever happened. I guess, on top of you ignorantly and arrogantly saying that time zones can't happen on a flat world when we addressed your  "flat earth debunk" video, then when we readdressed it you called everything we said " magic", you can count these as flipping your conclusions.

SilverishGoldNova

Now Coveny, exit the room and bring back someone who actually wants to have a discussion, and take your towel with you. PS: Mountains have nothing to do with the flat Earth

Coveny

Erfisflat said:

Totally a rebut, and "smack talk"? ROFL You prove my point on the ad hominem. Let me see if I can do that too...

Coveny

SilverishGoldNova said:

Coveny said:

Erfisflat said:

1. Globe earth proponents love the hundreds year old theoretical instances of so called proof. They cling to them like a story in the Bible. Errortosthanes was, quite frankly, an . 

Erfisflat said:

WoodenWood said:

@Erfisflat What evidence is there for a flat Earth besides a fantasy book about a sky monster?

Have I used bible verses as evidence here?

Yes.

This isn't the bible being used as proof, this is just him referencing the bible

Attempting to use the bible to disprove globe earth, does qualify as using it as evidence or proof.

Coveny

Erfisflat said:

He doesn't understand, I'm giving up on him.

Lies, you'll respond to me again. It's not like your word is worth anything at this point though...

Coveny

SilverishGoldNova said:

@Erfisflat Same here, I honestly think he might be a troll or a secret flat Earther, or just a desperate globetard who is stuck with insults and fallacies. 

I've always found people who say "honestly" and "truly" tend to lie a lot. It's like they are saying "I normally lie but this time I'm "honestly" saying X" 

Coveny

Erfisflat said:

@Coveny

Coveny

SilverishGoldNova said:

@Coveny Perhaps I have time for just 1 more reply

"You want to dance buttercup, I have no problem making you look like a fool as well" Well, apparently that hasn't been going very well for you, hasn't it? Nice try, but it doesnt seem to have gone well so far. 

Am I an anti-vaxxer for saying it's not an insult, it's a position. Because thats you're logic with Erfisflat. Not to mention you said it was being used as an insult, and then when you were called out you denied it ever happened. I guess, on top of you ignorantly and arrogantly saying that time zones can't happen on a flat world when we addressed your  "flat earth debunk" video, then when we readdressed it you called everything we said " magic", you can count these as flipping your conclusions.

Well that didn't take long to prove you're a now did it?

I said Erfisflat sounded like an anti-vaxxer. Then in the response Erfisflat that I would be an anti-vaxxer if I did my research. That's a pretty clear indication that he's an anti-vaxxer, and that I nailed that . Not a strawman fallacy in any form.

Time zones can't happen on the flat earth. (they would be half circles in flat earth not lines) This was NEVER disprove or even really addressed by your "team". Instead you said perception... refraction... magic... blah blah blah. Look man, don't go away mad just go away. The adult is talking.

SilverishGoldNova

random post

AlwaysCorrect

Erfisflat said:

No, peer review is unrelated government approval. It refers to the process of editors at scientific journals referring studies to be reviewed by the relevant experts, e.g. if you have an study showing you have created some new relevant mathematical formula then the study will be looked over mathematicians who can assess if there are flaws in your work. This helps ensure that published studies are relevant and accurate.

As you seem unfamiliar with peer reviews, I suggest a basic google/wiki search: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scholarly_peer_review

SilverishGoldNova

If theres anyone who wants to have a discussion with me without constant fallacies, I'll discuss it here. My buffoon here needs some rest, and I need my buffoon to realize that random insults are not arguments, and he also needs to realize that he started the insults, not me or Erfisflat, and he also needs to realize that no flat Earther believes we live on a giant turtle with an edge. 

SilverishGoldNova

Coveny said:

SilverishGoldNova said:

If theres anyone who wants to have a discussion with me without constant fallacies, I'll discuss it here. My pet bald buffoon needs some rest, and I need my pet bald buffoon to realize that random insults are not arguments, and he also needs to realize that he started the insults, not me or Erfisflat, and he also needs to realize that no flat Earther believes we live on a giant turtle with an edge. 

You want to have a discussion without insults as you do nothing but insult. So and hypocrite. Also you don't speak for all flat earthers, I know yahweh's worshipers think he's the only god, but they are wrong. There are many other religions that believe in a flat earth, so yes flat earthers do believe the earth is on the back of a turtle. Did you think your batshit was the only batshit out there?

Ok, I'll respond even tho I am trying to ignore your fallacies, you are the one who started the insults, and when I called you out you responded with even more. It seems you've decided to stop using insults after that. Weren't you the one who was taunting me for "crying in the corner", for trying to ignore you however, after basing all of your arguments off random insults after we schooled you? Yes, there are some flat Earthers who believe we live on the back of the turtle, but they don't believe we live on a world with no time zones and an edge to fall off, which are your arguments, summarized.

SilverishGoldNova

Now, come and tell me when you'll stop using arguments thatconsist entirely of  "lol lol" as your main arguments.

Coveny

SilverishGoldNova said:

Coveny said:

SilverishGoldNova said:

If theres anyone who wants to have a discussion with me without constant fallacies, I'll discuss it here. My pet bald buffoon needs some rest, and I need my pet bald buffoon to realize that random insults are not arguments, and he also needs to realize that he started the insults, not me or Erfisflat, and he also needs to realize that no flat Earther believes we live on a giant turtle with an edge. 

You want to have a discussion without insults as you do nothing but insult. So and hypocrite. Also you don't speak for all flat earthers, I know yahweh's worshipers think he's the only god, but they are wrong. There are many other religions that believe in a flat earth, so yes flat earthers do believe the earth is on the back of a turtle. Did you think your batshit was the only batshit out there?

Ok, I'll respond even tho I am trying to ignore your fallacies, you are the one who started the insults, and when I called you out you responded with even more. It seems you've decided to stop using insults after that. Weren't you the one who was taunting me for "crying in the corner", for trying to ignore you however, after basing all of your arguments off random insults after we schooled you? Yes, there are some flat Earthers who believe we live on the back of the turtle, but they don't believe we live on a world with no time zones and an edge to fall off, which are your arguments, summarized.

If you say you are going to do something but you don't that makes you a . This is not an ad hominem fallacy, this is the truth. If you condemn me for something that you do, that makes you a hypocrite, again not ad hominem, just a fact. Facts however seem to be VERY hard for flat earthers to understand. I did NOT start in with the insults, it's all in the thread. You'll see many cases where I wasn't insulting, and someone started insulting me. Now you walked into the middle of that, and I haven't checked so maybe in your case I made a mistake and insulted you first because I didn't register the name, and just responded. The two "E" people started the ad hominem though, not me.

On the time zones I said they wouldn't WORK on a flat earth. Look at your circling sun gif, mentally stop it every inch or so and chart where the time zones would be, and you'll find rather than straight up and down like it is on a globe, your model has to have curved time zones. This has never been addressed by ANY or you baffoons with anything other than repeating your magical perception and refraction crap which has the powers to do ANYTHING in your minds.

As for the turtle, you called me out as wrong, now I have proven that you were in fact the one who is wrong... AGAIN. I prove you are lies. I prove you are full of , and yet you keep talking like Trump and say you're "winning" when I'm making all three of you look like fools. You want to be knock yourself out, you want to continue publicly being anti-science and I will continue to make you look like fools. I would love for all three of you idiots to make your own little echo chamber, and stop trying to convert more people into your anti-science beliefs.

Coveny

SilverishGoldNova said:

Now, come and tell me when you'll stop using arguments thatconsist entirely of  "lol lol" as your main arguments.

Just as soon as you do. As I have stated before you want to debate, I'll debate, you want to talk smack, I'll talk smack. Pick the poison you want lose at, and I'll follow.

SilverishGoldNova

I think Im going to have a seizure from the amount of times the said "" and "" aka you.  And If I had a nickel for everytime you dismissed claims as absurd and spouted insults, I could end world hunger.

SilverishGoldNova

@Coveny "Stop responding"

Well, I mean its not like you were going to use something besides "you are lol l ol ol olo l oo o o o " .So maybe  I actually will stop responding. And, I'll ask you to leave the room and bring back someone with an actual argument. It's been a day now

Coveny

SilverishGoldNova said:

Coveny said:

SilverishGoldNova said:

I think Im going to have a seizure from the amount of times the said "" and "" aka you. 

If you don't want to be called a stop responding like you said you were going to. As for the part, sorry if the truth hurts. (oh and you didn't do any "thinking")

I have no problem with being called a

"Sorry if the truth hurts" "sorry about the part"

Here we go again with the ad homs. Geez, you love those damn ad homs. 

Strawman fallacy 101 don't incorrectly quote the guy when what he said is right above it, it makes you look like a fool. (you really need to do better than this)

SilverishGoldNova

@Coveny Strawman fallacy. 

https://gyazo.com/3a60c4f433128ef4ed26285b11286090 Ahem, ahem, *cough cough*.

Now, leave the room and bring back someone with an actual argument. Spouting "fool" and "" for a month was never an argument.

Coveny

SilverishGoldNova said:

@Coveny "Stop responding"

Well, I mean its not like you were going to use something besides "you are lol l ol ol olo l oo o o o " .So maybe  I actually will stop responding. And, I'll ask you to leave the room and bring back someone with an actual argument. It's been a day now

I brought an argument just a minute ago, but you don't have a response for it so you ignored it, and continued with the smack talk. 

See hear is the difference between saying you are going to do something, and someone else telling you to do something. If you don't do one it makes you a , if you don't do the second on it makes you an individual. (man you are making this easy...)

SilverishGoldNova

Coveny said:

SilverishGoldNova said:

@Coveny "Stop responding"

Well, I mean its not like you were going to use something besides "you are lol l ol ol olo l oo o o o " .So maybe  I actually will stop responding. And, I'll ask you to leave the room and bring back someone with an actual argument. It's been a day now

I brought an argument just a minute ago, but you don't have a response for it so you ignored it, and continued with the smack talk. 

See hear is the difference between saying you are going to do something, and someone else telling you to do something. If you don't do one it makes you a , if you don't do the second on it makes you an individual. (man you are making this easy...)

Coveny said:

SilverishGoldNova said:

@Coveny "Stop responding"

Well, I mean its not like you were going to use something besides "you are lol l ol ol olo l oo o o o " .So maybe  I actually will stop responding. And, I'll ask you to leave the room and bring back someone with an actual argument. It's been a day now

I brought an argument just a minute ago, but you don't have a response for it so you ignored it, and continued with the smack talk. 

See hear is the difference between saying you are going to do something, and someone else telling you to do something. If you don't do one it makes you a , if you don't do the second on it makes you an individual. (man you are making this easy...)

Yeah, the argument was the same thing you've said in response to basically everything, magic, , etc.

SilverishGoldNova

Coveny said:

SilverishGoldNova said:

@Coveny Strawman fallacy. 

https://gyazo.com/3a60c4f433128ef4ed26285b11286090 Ahem, ahem, *cough cough*.

Now, leave the room and bring back someone with an actual argument. Spouting "fool" and "" for a month was never an argument.

That you have to link a pictures URL does sorta prove your a , but there is more to it than that. Talk to a "smart" friend before you respond maybe he can help you with the tough technology stuff... 

So, because I linked gyazo, I am an who doesn't understand technology? 

"Your a " 

My a ? Where did I put it? I forgot. Can you help me? I also lost count of the quadrillions of times you said "". What exact number was it again and Is that all you've heard your entire life? 

SilverishGoldNova

"Goldfish" best completely random insult 2017. congrats .

SilverishGoldNova

@Coveny

Ah, circle time zones. Seemingly, thats the last actual argument you have left.

":Time zones can't happen on the flat earth. (they would be half circles in flat earth not lines) This was NEVER disprove or even really addressed by your "team". Instead you said perception... refraction... magic... blah blah blah. Look man, don't go away mad just go away. The adult is talking."

It would actually make sense to have circular time zones on a flat Earth.  Anyone who has spent more than a minute researching knows this.

See how this works out? 
Secondly, lets compare time zones on a flat map to on a globe map.
 

"This was NEVER disprove or even really addressed by your "team". Instead you said perception... refraction... magic... blah blah blah" This was being used to address sunsets. Also, if the refraction or perspective arguments are , as you have insisted heavily, care to elaborate on why they are?

Judging from how the majority of your arguments are just insults and fallacies, It seems you've become desperate. And this is your last real argument, and I bet after this, all you'll be left with are insults and fallacies. I already know your favorites. Tehehehe

Also, while I may have conceded the turtle thing, that's different from being a and it isn't what me nor Erfisflat are argui@Coveny

Before you come out and say that you also have that airplane argument, on a globe they would be much shorter than what you have described as a result of Earths supposed spinning. 

Erfisflat

AlwaysCorrect said:

Erfisflat said:

No, peer review is unrelated government approval. It refers to the process of editors at scientific journals referring studies to be reviewed by the relevant experts, e.g. if you have an study showing you have created some new relevant mathematical formula then the study will be looked over mathematicians who can assess if there are flaws in your work. This helps ensure that published studies are relevant and accurate.

As you seem unfamiliar with peer reviews, I suggest a basic google/wiki search: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scholarly_peer_review

http://mathcentral.uregina.ca/qq/database/qq.09.97/dyck2.html

SilverishGoldNova

@Erfisflat

1Hacker0

@Erfisflat @SilverishGoldNova ;
Both of you still haven't answered my question. If all of our evidence is fabrication, then why can't all of your evidence be fabrication. You've only explained to me why NASA's evidence is fabrication. But the picture I provided you isn't from NASA. When I pointed this out you gave me a fallacy. I'm not saying all of your evidence is fabrication, but if since you say our evidence is fabricated, then why can't your be? Also tell me what fallacy I made. I asked you this as well, and you didn't respond to it either.

Erfisflat

1Hacker0 said:

@Erfisflat @SilverishGoldNova ;
Both of you still haven't answered my question. If all of our evidence is fabrication, then why can't all of your evidence be fabrication. You've only explained to me why NASA's evidence is fabrication. But the picture I provided you isn't from NASA. When I pointed this out you gave me a fallacy. I'm not saying all of your evidence is fabrication, but if since you say our evidence is fabricated, then why can't your be? Also tell me what fallacy I made. I asked you this as well, and you didn't respond to it either.

Verifiability. Anyone can go to Lake Michigan and see clear across it. Thousands of people can attest to it. Have you ever seen curvature, or more importantly, earth as a ball? To answer your question, anyone can verify that a body of water is always flat.

SilverishGoldNova

@1Hacker0 How about this. NASA makes $18 BN a year. They should be able to take photographs of the Earth as we are told, but NASA freely admits their images are paintings, CGI, or composites. They even admit to photoshopping images if they look flat, and they also say they only times they took real images of the Earth were during the moon landings, which have been debunked a million times. With NASA making that much money a year, would they need to fake this imagery if the Earth were truely spherical? 

Erfisflat

http://nasafails.com

1Hacker0

@SilverishGoldNova @Erfisflat Ok that makes sense. But what type of fallacy have I made?

Erfisflat

1Hacker0 said:

@SilverishGoldNova @Erfisflat Ok that makes sense. But what type of fallacy have I made?

Association.

WoodenWood

@SilverishGoldNova You made several posts about the motion of the Earth, and how we can't feel it. Question, how do we not feel the motion flat Earthers think account for gravity

SilverishGoldNova

@WoodenWood I see, you gathered all of your information from the flat Earth society (a controlled opposition group designed to distract people from the real flat Earth research, and to make the flat Earth look too to be worth considering and they even admit to it), then came here. The reason objects fall is because of density. Drop a plank of Wooden Wood (or just wood) for example, it falls because it is more dense than the air. The theory of gravity is based around a supposed attraction to a supposed center of the Earth, which is said to be strong enough to keep water from flying off a ball spinning faster than sound, blasting around a sun blasting around a galaxy blasting around a "great attractor" faster than light, which can somehow be overpowered by a balloon or magnet. 

Erfisflat

 no real flat earther thinks the Earth is moving

SilverishGoldNova

@WoodenWood Go research the actual flat Earth, then get back to me.

Erfisflat

Rephrase, all real flat earther know the earth hasn't moved since it was created. (Few exceptions in the Bible)

Erfisflat

Gravity is a lie created to explain this.

Erfisflat

 If 2/3 is water and the other 3rd is Asia, does that make us aliens?

SilverishGoldNova

Erfisflat said:

 If 2/3 is water and the other 3rd is Asia, does that make us aliens? 

Yes it does. Americans are aliens.

SilverishGoldNova

Before you play the victim card about the "smack talk" thing, just remember, you've said buffoon and so many other so many times I could end world hunger if I had $1 for everytime you spouted an insult. . Not like I care, but it's both sad and funny at the same time

Coveny

SilverishGoldNova said:

@Coveny

Ah, circle time zones. Seemingly, thats the last actual argument you have left.

":Time zones can't happen on the flat earth. (they would be half circles in flat earth not lines) This was NEVER disprove or even really addressed by your "team". Instead you said perception... refraction... magic... blah blah blah. Look man, don't go away mad just go away. The adult is talking."

It would actually make sense to have circular time zones on a flat Earth.  Anyone who has spent more than a minute researching knows this.

See how this works out? 
Secondly, lets compare time zones on a flat map to on a globe map.
 

"This was NEVER disprove or even really addressed by your "team". Instead you said perception... refraction... magic... blah blah blah" This was being used to address sunsets. Also, if the refraction or perspective arguments are , as you have insisted heavily, care to elaborate on why they are?

Judging from how the majority of your arguments are just insults and fallacies, It seems you've become desperate. And this is your last real argument, and I bet after this, all you'll be left with are insults and fallacies. I already know your favorites. Tehehehe

Also, while I may have conceded the turtle thing, that's different from being a and it isn't what me nor Erfisflat are argui@Coveny

Before you come out and say that you also have that airplane argument, on a globe they would be much shorter than what you have described as a result of Earths supposed spinning. 

As you can't seem to figure out the problem, maybe a picture will help you. Look at the white lined "time zones" and tell me if that's what we see in the real world... take as long as you need. 

Sure I can elaborate. Perception makes objects closer and smaller, it doesn’t make objects disappear or fade away. Refraction offsets an object you see, and also doesn’t make the object disappear. So perception can’t make the sun “disappear”, and neither can refraction. So even with perception and refraction you should still see the sun, and it wouldn’t “set”. Also boats wouldn’t “disappear” from the bottom up. Perception and refraction don’t “flip” objects either. That’s not how either of those things work regardless of the magic you want them to do.

The majority of… naw all my arguments have been left unanswered. I say 2+2 = 4, and you guys say green is a combination of red, and you think that proves me wrong somehow. Saying green doesn’t magically make it so 2+2 stops equaling 4. I still have the original 5 arguments I started out with that haven’t been refuted. 

You are a because you said you were going to stop responding to me, and you are still responding to me. You were WRONG because you said flat earthers don’t believe the earth is carried on the back of a turtle. Please try to stay focused. 

Coveny

Erfisflat said:

Nope no ad hominem here at ALL... ROFL