Are these religious people idiots, as some say?
Martin Scorsese?
Stephen Spielberg?
Jennifer Lawrence?
Oprah Winfrey?
Stephen Colbert?
Bill Maher (before he turned 40)?
Bill O'Reilly?
Mindy Kaling?
Angelina Jolie?
Mark Wahlberg?
Tina Turner?
Mayim Bialik?
Denzel Washington?
Stephen Baldwin?
Michelle Williams?
Orlando Bloom?
Steven Seagal?
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Neither, you're the troll here and you're so full of c**p that it's almost too easy to prove you wrong. If you get aggravated by what I write it's because your trolling is backfiring hard as I react by turning the rude remarks back onto you.
Who did I list? Enlighten me where my list is.
LOL! IQ doesn't increase at will based on religious affiliation, xD!!!! You just typed TOTAL NONSENSE here.
If atheists do have higher IQ than theists as an absolute, EVEN THEN, one can't 'choose to become atheist' and more certainly can't increase their IQ as a result of that (it would be the other way around if the theory you posit is true).
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As for Wowsil here, how utterly RIDICULOUS! Are you always this or is today just a special occasion? Really, your response was retarded. So Martin Scorsese's just ins't smart enough? What is this, Chinese chess?
IQ doesn't work that way, dumba**. Bill Maher always had/has the same IQ, ALWAYS. For most of his life, he was Catholic, one day, at 40, he became an atheist. Did he suddenly get smarter? Did his IQ just jump sky high? Come on, we know zombies eat brains, so you're safe.
And it's also insulating to those great minds. I have a friend who's a filmmaker, he believes in G-d. Is he suddnelt "dumb"? Is he not "good enough"?
So let's say my IQ was 40. Okay, let's just say, I don't know what it is, I never had it tested. Would I be an atheist if it j u s t w a s 41? Just a point higher?
Chris Nolan's iq is 148, Tarantino's 160. Spielberg and Scorsese CAN'T be far off, they might even eclipses the former, for all we know. At least you're smarter than Joeseph here, he was even MORE of an . You know what he said? "Judaism, you're just dumb, they clearly aren't." Good job, mazel tov! He just made himself sound like a fool, as well as fell into my trap. Y'see, it was a trap. Yes, we Jews are clever! I'm stigmatizing myself, since your an anti-Semite who'll just buy what he's told, so why not? Anyway, I tricked your foolish little .
How so? Well, at least you were subtle. At least you have more brains. I dunno, but if I had to say, you're at least 2 more points higher than Joeseph, but 2 points isn't far.
See, you both fell for it, in your own way, and tried to get out of it. You both stupidly declared that "all religious people are dimwits." Great! Now what about blah, blah, blah?
. . . Haha. . . now one turns around and says I'm just not as smart, and another - you - say that "had they just been a bit smarter. . . had their moms breastfeed them. . . ." It won't work buddy.
Stop the game playing. People of faith can be just as smart. I bet Richard Dawkins and Francis Collins got roughly the same iq score, don't play games here. You look when you do, I mean, you already look all the time, but you look even stupider now; more than ever. So stop. We all know you're an , but you don't have to shout it out to everyone.
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What HOGWASH 101!
Bill Mahre SUDDENLY woke up one day and realized his IQ potential was far greater than he ever imagined. He was always religious, and he always knew he had a good IQ, but one day, he had a secular revelation. "Ah-ha! I can grow my brain, literally. I can increase my IQ score - something no one has ever done before, or will - by 40 more points if I JUST drop religion. Who cares if I go to hell, I want to be smart!"
That's what this fool, Wowsil, believes in. Yes, he's a fu***** RETARD. And by the way, we Jews don't say anyone goes to hell just because they don't believe in G-d, I'll be hearing that next from that big dummy. He IS A TROLL.
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But the main thing that I want to say is that I don't really think that religious people are necessarily dumb. I just think that they're ignorant. When you have a strongly reinforced education at a young age about religion or even anything, you are most likely going to believe in that thing even when you are at your critical thinking age. I was actually raised as a catholic myself, and I guessed I was not educated very strongly, because by the time that I was 8, I was questioning some of the things I was taught. I remember the first skeptical question I asked: "If god is so loving, then why does he send so many people to hell?" However, that is not to say that atheists are any different. You can be raised strongly atheist and be ignorant too. It's just that religious parenting reinforces theism much stronger than atheist parenting reinforces atheism.
Just a few things to throw into the debate. And also, let's try to keep out the ad hominem attacks here, or we'll never reach any conclusion that we can all agree with.
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Religious people aren't dumb, just misinformed.
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It's been a while since I've seen any post from you...Good to see ya again!
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However, your argument is flawed. Very smart and intelligent people can sometimes have the most ridiculous beliefs, especially in the fields they are not experts on. Kasparov, arguably the best chess player of all times, a major expert on economics and politics, and incredible businessman and organizer - follows one of the alternative history theories, that basically takes the mainstream historical sciences as a global conspiracy, and that contradicts all dating methods existing nowadays. It does not take much research to see that this theory is wrong, yet he, a person with incredible cognitive abilities, still follows it. Why? Who knows. There is usually a good reason for having any bias against facts hidden deep inside one's psychological profile, so I will leave it to experts on psychology to answer this question.
The bottom line is, smart people can believe in not-so-smart things sometimes. Your list proves nothing but the fact that some very intelligent people followed religion. It does not support religion being the choice of the intelligent in any way, however.
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Don't take this with offense, but had you grown up Jewish, things would have been very different. This is because we don't believe G-d is sending everyone to hell who isn't Jewish. That's hogwash. He - the Ein Sof - has no right to do that. Unlike Christianity or Islam, we don't believe non-believers are going to hell.
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Oh no, bacon!
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That ranks the average iq of people in a country. Here's one by race:
Both of these prove @AlexOland 's point.
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http://aristocratsofthesoul.com/average-iq-by-race-and-ethnicity/
https://iq-research.info/en/average-iq-by-country
https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/first/j/jencks-gap.html?mcubz=3
Black people earn less, score lower on tests and their average IQ is lower. This is a fact.
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Religious people are dumb, but very. VERY misinformed and will just run with it
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Taxation is always theft
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Taxation is always theft
http://www.atheistrepublic.com/
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