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Should torture be abolished?

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I say yes.
Zombieguy1987anarchist100



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  • WordsMatterWordsMatter 493 Pts   -  
    It is illegal already. The fight now is what is defined as torture
    Zombieguy1987Plaffelvohfen
  • DrummerDudeDrummerDude 18 Pts   -  
    @WordsMatter What about capital punishment? Even though the question doesn't mention it, isn't electrocuting somebody for a crime the modern equivalent of torture?
    CYDdhartaStarlord616
  • AlofRIAlofRI 1484 Pts   -  
    I believe it HAS been, that is, in any "civilized" country, and no civilized country condones it in others. There are some wacko religions that indulge in self torture … to show how they are willing to suffer for their "loving god". As I said …. wacko.
    Zombieguy1987
  • AlofRIAlofRI 1484 Pts   -  
    @DrummerDude: I would think someone going to hell should be considered torture, and I've had the recommendation a few times. ;-)
    There are some crimes that confession, requiring a few "Hail Mary's" just doesn't seem "just". Putting someone in prison for years … or life, ISN'T "torture"??
    I think I'd take the type of as-humane-as-we-can-make-it, torture over 50 years or so of looking at the same tiny cell all day, with maybe an hour of "whatever the weather is" outside. Capital punishment under those terms IS a "choice" I might make. We HAVE to punish … to fit the crime. We can be humane about it even if the crime wasn't. It's about the best we can do. According to rumor, GOD might not be that nice. :-(
    Zombieguy1987
  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 5967 Pts   -  
    @DrummerDude

    My understanding of the terminology is that "torture" refers to the act of violence with the purpose of forcing the desired behavior of the individual. For example, the most common purposes of torture are to extract information from someone, or to force someone into a contract.

    In this sense, electrocuting someone to death is not really a "torture", since it is merely a means of killing someone, it being extremely painful to the victim being merely an irrelevant detail from the executioner's perspective.

    That said, there are execution methods that specifically aim at making the individual suffer as much as possible before death - typically with the purpose of intimidating others. In those cases, I would classify what happens as both torture and execution. Two acts in one, serving two different purposes.

    I am not sure if originally death through electrocution was intended as just an acute way to use modern technology, or to prolong the victim's suffering. We would need a historical expert to elaborate on that.
    Zombieguy1987
  • CYDdhartaCYDdharta 1823 Pts   -  
    @WordsMatter What about capital punishment? Even though the question doesn't mention it, isn't electrocuting somebody for a crime the modern equivalent of torture?

    Electrocution was adopted because it was considered among the most humane methods of execution. 
    This execution method, conceived in 1881 by a Buffalo, New York, dentist named Alfred P. Southwick, was developed throughout the 1880s as a "humane alternative" to hanging, and first used in 1890.

    It's the same story as the Guillotine.
  • YeshuaBoughtYeshuaBought 669 Pts   -  
    @WordsMatter Good. I think torturers should be put to death.
  • YeshuaBoughtYeshuaBought 669 Pts   -  
    @AlofRI This debate is not about religion. Stay on topic.
    Zombieguy1987xlJ_dolphin_473
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