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Will equality of opportunity for men and woman, lead to equality of outcome?

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 Some claim that it will not because of the representation of women and men in media. Jordan Peterson argues that the main reason is the gender difference.



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  • billbatardbillbatard 133 Pts   -  
    @AlexOland opprotunity and results are two different thngs
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  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 5971 Pts   -  
    I do not think we are able to answer this question as of now. For the entirety of human history, women and men were seen as inherently different beings, and even in the society with no apparent discrimination there were still social biases and expectations forcing both men and women to conform with some gender-based standards.

    If we do away with all legal discrimination and, over time, stop worrying about genders whatsoever, then the outcome is unclear, and that will likely depend on the intricacies of biological differences between genders. If we do not, then there will never be equality of outcome. Granted, lack of equality of outcome does not necessarily mean that one gender will be better off than another gender - but the genders will have different outcomes all the same.

    If there is 10 times as many male jazz guitarists as there is female jazz guitarists, then it is inequality of outcome. Does it mean that females are worse off as a result? No, as they a) might be less interested in playing jazz guitar in the first place, and b) may dominate in some other areas, say, babysitting. 

    This is one of the main concerns I have with the term "equality" in itself: it is inherently reductionist. There must be inequality in a thriving society, as different people have different preferences - but "inequality" as it is defined implies that someone gets a better deal than someone else. While in actuality, two people not being equal does not mean one person being better than another person. A blue-eyed human is not equal to a green-eyed human, and a professional tennis player is not equal to a professional basketball player. This is a good inequality, and we sometimes call it diversity - yet in the modern political language these terms are seen as mutually contradictory.
    We need a better word for the property we are describing. "Equality" is a misleading term. 
    AlexOlandZombieguy1987
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