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I am about to win a Nobel prize: I have destroyed the big bang theory
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The temperature asserted immediately after the big bang theory is 1 billion degrees

It is fallaciously asserted the universel Grows  and cools 100s after the Big Bang

Newton's Law of Cooling


Newton's Law of Cooling states that the rate of change of the temperature of an object is proportional to the difference between its own temperature and the ambient temperature (i.e. the temperature of its surroundings).

Differential equation

T (t) = Temperature of the universe at time t (in min).
T0= t°= Initial Temperature of the universs =1 b deg.
 Ta= Ambient temperature (temp of matter) = 1 b degrees

The temperature is 1 billion degrees

At present, roughly 30% of the incoming solar radiation is reflected back to space by the clouds, aerosols, and the surface of Earth. Without naturally occurring greenhouse gases, Earth's average temperature would be near 0°F (or -18°C) instead of the much warmer 59°F (15°C).

The sun's tempreture 

9,940°F, hot enough to incinerate just about any material

The Stefan-Boltzman Law describes the rate of energy output (the radiated power) for a particular object. This power depends on both the temperature and the surface area of the object. As an equation, it looks like this (assuming it is a perfect object that only radiates and does not absorb any external radiation).


In this expression, A is the surface area, T is the temperature and σ is a constant (not surprisingly called the Stefan-Boltzman constant). But of course the most important part is the area. If you double the area, you double the power.

That is, the power per unit area is directly proportional to the fourth power of the thermodynamic temperature. The value of the Stefan-Boltzmann constant is approximately 5.67 x 10 -8 watt per meter squared per kelvin to the fourth (W. ... K -4 )

Blocks of iron

One block is 1 cm on a side (block A) and the other block is 2 cm on a side (block B). Both blocks start at the same temperature (let's say 100 °C) and the cool down to 90 °C. I can calculate the area for both blocks to get the radiated power. Let's do that.


Block A area = 6 x (0.01 m)2 = 0.0006 m2 (each side is a square and there are six sides).


Block B area = 6 x (0.02 m)2 = 0.0024 m2.


Since block B has a larger side, it has a surface area that is four times larger. This means that the power output is also four times larger. So, it would cool off faster? Right? Not so right. While it's true that the bigger block has a faster decrease in energy, it also has more energy.


Let's look at the change in energy for a temperature going from 100 °C to 90 °C. The energy change also depends on the object's mass and the type of material. This can be described with the following equation:


In this expression, m is of course the mass and ΔT is the change in temperature. The other variable (c) is the specific heat. It is a measure of the change in energy per mass and temperature for a particular material. Aluminum has a specific heat of 0.9 Joules per gram per degree Celsius. But really, the specific heat doesn't really matter since both blocks are made of the same material. What does matter is the mass. It's the only thing that matters.


If you double the length of the side of a cube, what happens to the mass? Assuming a density of 2.7 grams per cubic centimeter, I will calculate the mass of these two blocks.


Bloack A mass = (2.7 g/cm3) x (1 cm)3 = 2.7 grams


Block B mass = (2.7 g/cm3) x (2 cm)3 = 21.6 grams


Yes, block B is eight times more massive even though it's only double the length—that's the way volume works. With eight times the mass, block B would need eight times the change in energy to go from 100°C to 90°C. So even though the radiated power is four times larger for block B, it will still take longer to cool off.


If larger masses take more time to cool than the mass of stars or planets in the universe would take longer to cool than the earth

Earth's size

Surface area: 196.9 million mi²

Distance from Sun: 92.96 million mi

6.39 × 10^23 kg

Mars size

0.107 M⊕

Surface area: 55.91 million mi²

Distance from Sun: 141.6 million mi

1.989 × 10^30 kg

sun size

Radius: 695,700 km (1 R☉)

Surface temperature: 5,778 K

If you calculate the temptreture of the sun and it's distance from earth the earth would have been incinerated by the sun based on Newton's law of cooling and the Stefan boltman law.


I'm going to calculate the initial thermal tempreture of planets using the big bang theory initial tempreture.


Jesus is Lord.

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  • Energy increase radiated from the sun would cause the earth to get hotter

    If you increase the energy of the Sun you willdecrease its gravitational binding 10%, which is a huge factor. The result will be that theSun's core will cool down extremely rapidly as fusion rates drop and the whole Sun will be out of hydrostatic equilibrium.

    Hydrostatic equilibrium says that there is abalance between two forces at every point within a star. One force is the inward force of gravity. ... Deeper layers of the star have more weight pressing down on them, so the pressure must increase as we move toward the center. Increasing pressure means increasing temperature.

    Hydrostatic Equilibrium. For the majority of the life of a star, the gravitational force (due to the mass of the star) and the gas pressure (due to energy generation in the core of the star) balance, and the star is said to be in 'hydrostatic equilibrium'.

    star is in hydrostatic equilibrium when the outward push of pressure due to core burning is exactly in balance with the inward pull of gravity. ... Stars release huge amounts of radiation from their surfaces while on the main sequence. Why is this necessary if a star is to maintain hydrostatic equilibrium?

    The sun will leave the main sequence when roughly 10 percent of its hydrogen has been fused into helium.

    Using the data given in Section 16.6 and table 16.2 in the textbook, calculate the total amount of mass de

    (1) The Sun's interior is in hydrostatic equilibrium.

    The tendency of gravity is to compress the SunIf the Sun were to collapse inward under its own gravity, it would crunch down to a black hole in the course of a few hours. Obviously, such a catastrophe hasn't happened.

    The Sun is fairly stable; we don't see it oscillating wildly in and out, and we don't see it flickering like a candle about to go out. Moreover, the Sun has been fairly stable for billions of years, allowing the continuous existence of life on Earth.

    Gravity has a destabilizing effect. The tendency of gravity is to compress the Sun. If the Sun were to collapse inward under its own gravity, it would crunch down to a black hole in the course of a few hours. Obviously, such a catastrophe hasn't happened. What has kept the Sun from collapsing?


    As it turns out, the Sun is kept stable by its internal pressure. Just as pressure increases as you dive deeper and deeper into the Earth's oceans, so pressure increases as you dive deeper and deeper into the Sun. By the time you reach the Sun's center, the pressure has reached a value equal to 340 billion times the air pressure at sea level here on Earth. It's a general rule that gas flows from regions of high pressure to regions of low pressure. (The pressure difference is what makes air leak out of a punctured tire.) Within the Sun, therefore, pressure creates an outward force, from the high-pressure core to the low-pressure surface. This is in contrast to gravity, which creates an inward force.


    When the force due to pressure exactly balances the force due to gravity, a system is in hydrostatic equilibrium. The Sun's hydrostatic equilibrium is stable and self-regulating; if you tossed a little extra matter onto the Sun, the inward force of gravity would increase. However, the resulting compression would increase the pressure inside the Sun, resulting in an increase in the pressure force just sufficient to balance the increased gravitational force.


    (2) Energy is carried away from the Sun's core by radiative diffusion and convection.


    Energy is generated by nuclear fusion in the Sun's hot, dense, high-pressure core. However, the energy generated is ultimately radiated away from the Sun's surface, nearly 700,000 kilometers away (a distance equal to 17 times the Earth's circumference). How is the energy transported from the core to the surface?

    There are three fundamental ways of transporting energy from hot regions to cooler regions:


    Conduction: energy is transported by the small-scale random motions of atoms or molecules. One atom jostles the atom next to it, which in turn jostles the next atom, which in turn jostles the next atom...


    Convection: energy is transported by large-scale circular `convection currents', as hot fluid rises and cold fluid sinks.


    Radiative Diffusion: energy is transported by photons flowing from warm, bright regions to cool, dark regions.


    Conduction works best in opaque solids (metals are particularly good heat conductors, which is why pots'n'pans are made of metal). Convection works best in opaque fluids (that is, liquids and gases). Radiative diffusion works best in media which are transparent, or at least translucent.

    Inside the Sun, conduction is ineffective (the Sun is not solid). Energy is transported by convection in the outer regions of the Sun (the outer 30 percent, or so). Energy is transported by radiative diffusion in the inner regions of the Sun (the inner 70 percent).


    (3) The Sun's interior can be probed by helioseismology.


    The ``radiative zone'' of the Sun (the inner 70 percent, where energy is transported by photons) is by no means perfectly transparent. On average, photons in the radiative zone travel only two centimeters (about an inch) before being scattered in a random direction by an encounter with an electron. The photons stagger about on a random walk, or ``drunkard's walk'' which is staggeringly inefficient at bringing them to the convective zone. It typically takes about 170,000 years for energy generated by fusion in the Sun's core to stagger its way to the Sun's surface. (By contrast, if the Sun were totally transparent, the energy would be carried by photons straight to the Sun's surface, taking only 2.3 seconds for the trip!)

    If the Sun isn't transparent (which it isn't) how can we be sure that our models of the solar interior are correct? Fortunately, theoretical models of the Sun's interior can be tested using helioseismology, the study of the Sun's vibrations. By looking at the Doppler shift of light coming from the Sun's surface, we can see the Sun vibrating in and out (a little bit like the surface of a drum). Just as studies of seismic waves tell us something about the Earth's interior, studies of the Sun's vibration tell us something about the Sun's interior.


    Like a beaten drum or a ringing bell, the Sun vibrates at many frequencies simultaneously. (A musician would say the Sun has many `overtones'.) The frequencies at which the Sun vibrates depend on the sound speed within the Sun, which in turn depends on the pressure, density, and chemical composition within the Sun. Thus, if we want to test a model of the Sun, we can see whether its predicted vibrational frequencies match the observed vibrational frequencies of the Sun.


    Currently, the world's top helioseismologists are banded together into the Global Oscillation Network Group, or ``GONG'' for short; they have observatories around the world so they can observe the Sun 24 hours a day.


    Information about the Sun's interior can also be obtained by looking at neutrinos. Neutrinos are elementary particles which have no electric charge and very very little mass. (Their name means `little neutral one' in Italian.) Neutrinos are produced as a byproduct of the nuclear fusion reactions which convert hydrogen into helium within the Sun. Neutrinos scarcely ever interact with other particles. Thus, the Sun is transparent to neutrinos, which go zipping straight through the Sun unimpeded. Given the reluctance of neutrinos to interact with other particles, detecting them is difficult. Nevertheless, neutrinos have been detected coming from the Sun, confirming that fusion really is occurrin in the Sun's core!


    As such, when our Sun runs out of hydrogenfuel, it will expand to become a red giant, puff off its outer layers, and then settle down as a compact white dwarf star, then slowly cooling down for trillions of years.

    Energy increase radiated from the sun would cause the earth to get hotter

    If you increase the energy of the Sun you willdecrease its gravitational binding 10%, which is a huge factor. The result will be that theSun's core will cool down extremely rapidly as fusion rates drop and the whole Sun will be out of hydrostatic equilibrium.

    Hydrostatic equilibrium says that there is abalance between two forces at every point within a star. One force is the inward force of gravity. ... Deeper layers of the star have more weight pressing down on them, so the pressure must increase as we move toward the center. Increasing pressure means increasing temperature.

    Hydrostatic Equilibrium. For the majority of the life of a star, the gravitational force (due to the mass of the star) and the gas pressure (due to energy generation in the core of the star) balance, and the star is said to be in 'hydrostatic equilibrium'.

    star is in hydrostatic equilibrium when the outward push of pressure due to core burning is exactly in balance with the inward pull of gravity. ... Stars release huge amounts of radiation from their surfaces while on the main sequence. Why is this necessary if a star is to maintain hydrostatic equilibrium?

    The sun will leave the main sequence when roughly 10 percent of its hydrogen has been fused into helium.

    Using the data given in Section 16.6 and table 16.2 in the textbook, calculate the total amount of mass de

    (1) The Sun's interior is in hydrostatic equilibrium.

    The tendency of gravity is to compress the SunIf the Sun were to collapse inward under its own gravity, it would crunch down to a black hole in the course of a few hours. Obviously, such a catastrophe hasn't happened.

    The Sun is fairly stable; we don't see it oscillating wildly in and out, and we don't see it flickering like a candle about to go out. Moreover, the Sun has been fairly stable for billions of years, allowing the continuous existence of life on Earth.

    Gravity has a destabilizing effect. The tendency of gravity is to compress the Sun. If the Sun were to collapse inward under its own gravity, it would crunch down to a black hole in the course of a few hours. Obviously, such a catastrophe hasn't happened. What has kept the Sun from collapsing?


    As it turns out, the Sun is kept stable by its internal pressure. Just as pressure increases as you dive deeper and deeper into the Earth's oceans, so pressure increases as you dive deeper and deeper into the Sun. By the time you reach the Sun's center, the pressure has reached a value equal to 340 billion times the air pressure at sea level here on Earth. It's a general rule that gas flows from regions of high pressure to regions of low pressure. (The pressure difference is what makes air leak out of a punctured tire.) Within the Sun, therefore, pressure creates an outward force, from the high-pressure core to the low-pressure surface. This is in contrast to gravity, which creates an inward force.


    When the force due to pressure exactly balances the force due to gravity, a system is in hydrostatic equilibrium. The Sun's hydrostatic equilibrium is stable and self-regulating; if you tossed a little extra matter onto the Sun, the inward force of gravity would increase. However, the resulting compression would increase the pressure inside the Sun, resulting in an increase in the pressure force just sufficient to balance the increased gravitational force.


    (2) Energy is carried away from the Sun's core by radiative diffusion and convection.


    Energy is generated by nuclear fusion in the Sun's hot, dense, high-pressure core. However, the energy generated is ultimately radiated away from the Sun's surface, nearly 700,000 kilometers away (a distance equal to 17 times the Earth's circumference). How is the energy transported from the core to the surface?

    There are three fundamental ways of transporting energy from hot regions to cooler regions:


    Conduction: energy is transported by the small-scale random motions of atoms or molecules. One atom jostles the atom next to it, which in turn jostles the next atom, which in turn jostles the next atom...


    Convection: energy is transported by large-scale circular `convection currents', as hot fluid rises and cold fluid sinks.


    Radiative Diffusion: energy is transported by photons flowing from warm, bright regions to cool, dark regions.


    Conduction works best in opaque solids (metals are particularly good heat conductors, which is why pots'n'pans are made of metal). Convection works best in opaque fluids (that is, liquids and gases). Radiative diffusion works best in media which are transparent, or at least translucent.

    Inside the Sun, conduction is ineffective (the Sun is not solid). Energy is transported by convection in the outer regions of the Sun (the outer 30 percent, or so). Energy is transported by radiative diffusion in the inner regions of the Sun (the inner 70 percent).


    (3) The Sun's interior can be probed by helioseismology.


    The ``radiative zone'' of the Sun (the inner 70 percent, where energy is transported by photons) is by no means perfectly transparent. On average, photons in the radiative zone travel only two centimeters (about an inch) before being scattered in a random direction by an encounter with an electron. The photons stagger about on a random walk, or ``drunkard's walk'' which is staggeringly inefficient at bringing them to the convective zone. It typically takes about 170,000 years for energy generated by fusion in the Sun's core to stagger its way to the Sun's surface. (By contrast, if the Sun were totally transparent, the energy would be carried by photons straight to the Sun's surface, taking only 2.3 seconds for the trip!)

    If the Sun isn't transparent (which it isn't) how can we be sure that our models of the solar interior are correct? Fortunately, theoretical models of the Sun's interior can be tested using helioseismology, the study of the Sun's vibrations. By looking at the Doppler shift of light coming from the Sun's surface, we can see the Sun vibrating in and out (a little bit like the surface of a drum). Just as studies of seismic waves tell us something about the Earth's interior, studies of the Sun's vibration tell us something about the Sun's interior.


    Like a beaten drum or a ringing bell, the Sun vibrates at many frequencies simultaneously. (A musician would say the Sun has many `overtones'.) The frequencies at which the Sun vibrates depend on the sound speed within the Sun, which in turn depends on the pressure, density, and chemical composition within the Sun. Thus, if we want to test a model of the Sun, we can see whether its predicted vibrational frequencies match the observed vibrational frequencies of the Sun.


    Currently, the world's top helioseismologists are banded together into the Global Oscillation Network Group, or ``GONG'' for short; they have observatories around the world so they can observe the Sun 24 hours a day.


    Information about the Sun's interior can also be obtained by looking at neutrinos. Neutrinos are elementary particles which have no electric charge and very very little mass. (Their name means `little neutral one' in Italian.) Neutrinos are produced as a byproduct of the nuclear fusion reactions which convert hydrogen into helium within the Sun. Neutrinos scarcely ever interact with other particles. Thus, the Sun is transparent to neutrinos, which go zipping straight through the Sun unimpeded. Given the reluctance of neutrinos to interact with other particles, detecting them is difficult. Nevertheless, neutrinos have been detected coming from the Sun, confirming that fusion really is occurrin in the Sun's core!


    As such, when our Sun runs out of hydrogenfuel, it will expand to become a red giant, puff off its outer layers, and then settle down as a compact white dwarf star, then slowly cooling down for trillions of years.

    Losing the sun is several orders of magnitude

    After 3 days the earth would freeze

    Considering that the sun exerts the largest gravitational pull,and a 10% change in the sun's tempreture would cause it to pull the earth into it's orbit and the sun would create a black hole if the big bang happened it would have created the biggest black hole because of the sun's rapid loss of hydrostatic equalobrium.


    Goodbye big bang theory.


    Lololol hahaha


    Jesus is Lord.

    대왕광개토
  • There is no such thing as "immediately after the Big Bang". You can only talk about finite time periods after the Big Bang, otherwise you are talking about infinitesimal values, which do not make much sense when talking about actual physical effects.

    Also, the temperature of the radiation reaching you is much lower than the temperature of the surface of the sun, since a lot of energy gets lost in the atmosphere - and the density of the photons reaching you is low enough that the effects of that temperature are barely felt by you. Stand 1 meter away from the surface of the Sun, and everything will be far different.

    Please do not try to rebuke the results verified by thousands scientists throughout many decades without having a good grasp of the subject.
    PlaffelvohfenOppolzerZeusAres42Zombieguy1987대왕광개토SkepticalOne
  • @MayCaesar

    Dude shut up. You keep on saying things that are the opposite of what the scientific community has published.

    You like the scientific community invent one like after the other. Evolution is false. It doesn't stack up against the facts.

    Your fairy tale has come to and end.

    Jesus is Lord.
    PlaffelvohfenZombieguy1987대왕광개토SkepticalOneAlofRI
  • @jesusisGod777

    That's enough. You don't tell someone to "shut up," when they're merely responding to your reasoning. You're posting this on a debate website. Thus, you should be prepared for people to argue against you. You're attempting to debunk the most accepted and supported theory of the origin of the Universe, which is supported by more evidence than any other theory that has been proposed.

    The Big Bang Theory simply accords with all the available evidence. And when new evidence is discovered, it's refined. That's science.
    ZeusAres42jesusisGod777PlaffelvohfenZombieguy1987대왕광개토MayCaesarAlofRI
  • @Oppolzer

    He knows what he's doing
     He's being disingenuous. I will tell someone to shut up if they are knowingly being disnengenious in the attempt to lie to outside observers.

    There are layers of information in an argument that are accounted for while an argument is taking place. I don't care about the feelings of of a liar, it's logical because they don't care about the feelings of those listening.

    Jesus is Lord.

    Many of you continously try emotionally appeals without arguing any science.

    I was told not to curse people not to tell them not to shut up.


    PlaffelvohfenZombieguy1987대왕광개토AlofRI
  • Also to let you know this are small problems with the false big bang theory.

    It's enough to get it taken out of text books. Just wait until I present large problems.

    Jesus is Lord and God.
    PlaffelvohfenZombieguy1987대왕광개토
  • DeeDee 742 Pts
    @jesusisGod777

    It's enough to get it taken out of text books. Just wait until I present large problems.


    Hilarious , you’re just jealous that none of your biblical  fairytales are in any text books.


    You haven’t as usual presented any small problems as yet so good luck with that 

    PlaffelvohfenZombieguy1987대왕광개토
  • DeeDee 742 Pts
    @jesusisGod777

    You like the scientific community invent one like after the other. Evolution is false. It doesn't stack up against the facts

    Yet you want a Nobel prize from the community you claim invents lies. Evolution is accepted by rational people as fact the only ones who dispute this are mainly assorted religious nuts from around the globe of which Americans are represented by uneducated religious loonies like you 

    PlaffelvohfenZombieguy1987jesusisGod777대왕광개토
  • @Dee

    It's been recognized you have no concept of science. I didn't even read your post.

    You have no concept of logic.

    I disregard anything you say based on the concept of what pertains to debate.

    Jesus is Lord.

    I ignore everything you say.
    대왕광개토
  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 1935 Pts
    edited September 9
    @jesusisGod777

    I am sorry, but I have taken a few graduate-level classes and read several books on such subjects as General Relativity, Quantum Field Theory, Inflation and Radiation. I am by no means an expert on the Big Bang Theory, but I would assume that I know it well enough to detect obvious fallacies in others' attempts to oversimplify and strawman them.
    You never actually state what, in your opinion, is wrong with my arguments; you just attack me personally.

    I am not trying to berate you, but you simply have not made a single accurate statement on this website when trying to describe what the BBT states.

    Physics is a very complicated field; large scientific groups full of members with decades of experience in working in a very mentally challenging field communicate with each other via complex equations and arguments. When you try to criticise it, you should at least offer something of a comparable complexity; instead, you use some simplistic kitchen-level arguments, hoping to demolish the results of probably billions of total scientific research human-hours. This is not going to work.

    Science is absolutely open to criticism, and I will be the first to admit that there are many issues with BBT as a theory, and quite a lot of its predictions have not yet been verified - although we are not aware of a single piece of evidence that outright contradicts it either. However, when criticising something, you should come up with rational arguments, and you should at least familiarise yourself with the field enough that you can communicate with others working in that field and discuss it in a meaningful way. You do not go to a lawyers' discussion board without, at least, having read a couple of books on law - and similarly, you should not go on the offensive against the BBT researchers without, at least, familiarising yourself with the basics of that theory.
    대왕광개토Oppolzer
  • DeeDee 742 Pts



    It's been recognized you have no concept of science. I didn't even read your post.

    You have no concept of logic.

    I disregard anything you say based on the concept of what pertains to debate.

    Jesus is Lord.

    I ignore everything you say. 



    Says the guy who believes in zombies as in Jesus. You read my post which is why you reply immediately 

    Logic as in Jesus walking on water .....that sort of logic?

    You don’t “debate” you rant 
  • @MayCaesar ;
    The Idea given/gained is that with all complicated mathematics there is a basic type Proof which is to be formulated upon. A mathematic proof to remove Pi as it would be a requirement needed in some basic algebra is an essential . For All Circumference there exists an equal diameter. This means time is proportional to the big bang, if there had been a big bang, in honesty there is an about to be a congratulations is in order for JesusisGod777 

    I am about to get ready...…….

    @JesusisGod777 ;
    By the way a mathematic proof for backward time travel is For all diameter there exists a equal circumference. Notice I wrote there exists and not there is about to exist.
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