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What Happens when I Die?

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What happens when I die?


In The Beginning, on the 6th-Day of Creation, our Creator, Jesus Christ-Yeshua, created mankind in His spiritual image (Genesis 1:26) and endowed mankind with certain attributes possessed by God Himself. One of those attributes is an eternal spirit that will live and thrive abundantly beyond the death of the body constrained by Time and debilitating SIN.


Our Creator has infused Eternity into our heart (Ecclesiastes 3:11) and every man, woman and child is aware of a realm, aware of a life that extends beyond the brevity of this temporary life in Time (Hebrews 13:14) which the Holy Spirit refers to as a “vapor” that fades away like the morning mist (James 4:14). Only the man or woman, having given their hope and their Eternity into the hands of Satan through unbelief, have become numb to the glory that awaits the faithful in our Everlasting God, Jesus Christ-Yeshua (2 Corinthians 4:4).


A Christian’s hope in everlasting life as promised by Messiah-Yeshua/Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit is not the resultant of fear concerning death of the body for we know that the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23) but we who love and honor Jesus Christ know that the human eye has not seen, ear has not heard of the unfathomable goodness that awaits those who dwell in the presence of our God who suffered and died so that we could live with Him forever (1 Corinthians 2:9).


It is written…


“But when this perishable will have put on the imperishable, and this mortal will have put on immortality, then will come about the saying that is written, “Death is swallowed up in victory. O death, where is your victory? O death, where is your sting?” The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law; but thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.” 1 Corinthians 15:54-57 (NASB)

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What happens when I die?


1) Death of the unfaithful/unbelieving.

2) Death of the faithful in Jesus Christ.

3) Death of babies, children, the mentally handicapped.


1) Death of the unrepentant/those who die having rejected Jesus Christ-Yeshua as Lord and Mediator for sin…


Every man and woman having attained an age of reason/accountability *(Numbers 14:28-30) possessing sufficient cognitive acuity to discern right from wrong, moral from immoral, to discern the righteous decrees (Natural Law) of our Creator as written upon our heart at conception…if this unfaithful man or woman dies in their body of flesh having rejected the pardon from death in sin and Hell freely offered by Jesus Christ-Yeshua earned for them at the Crucifixion, at the point of death of body, the unredeemed/unfaithful in their disembodied spiritual form will be instantaneously translated into the region Messiah-Jesus identifies as Hades-Sheol/Torments (Luke 16).


The disembodied spirit of the unfaithful at the last exhalation of the Earthly body in Time, will enter Hades-Torments fully cognizant, fully aware, fully interactive in the Spiritual World, more so than when constrained in the body of flesh that inhibited full cognition and reality due to the inherent limitations of sin/the fallen-nature/the curse inherited from our father, Adam (Ephesians 2:1-3).


The unfaithful that have been confined in Hades-Sheol/Torments from The Genesis of Time are currently awaiting the Judgment of the Condemned/The Great White Throne Judgment (Revelation 20:11-15) that will manifest subsequent to the Millennial Reign of Messiah-Yeshua that will manifest immediately subsequent to the coming Tribulation Period/the Apocalypse/a nuclear war that will be initiated by Islam-Allah/Satan v. Israel-Yeshua and consume the Nations of the Earth in the coming days.


Prior to the Judgment of the Condemned, the unfaithful detained in Hades-Sheol/Torments will receive a resurrected body of corruption (John 5:28-29) in order that they can stand in the Judgment before Jesus Christ-Yeshua (Romans 14:11; Philippians 2:10-11; Ecclesiastes 12:14). During adjudication, the condemned will be evaluated for the things done in the body while constrained by Time upon the Earth. No one will be found righteous for their works done in the body because God the Father has established an immutable Covenant between Himself and mankind that only by His grace (unmerited favor) through faith (trusting-believing) in His Son, Jesus Christ, and the innocent blood that Jesus shed at the Crucifixion can forgive, redeem, sinful mankind (John 3:16: Acts 4:12); therefore, the unrighteous man and woman at the Judgment of the Condemned, having rejected Jesus Christ as Lord, will be adjudicated “guilty” for sin, their name will NOT be found written in the Book of Life (Revelation 20:15) and they will be forced into the Lake of Fire/Hell/Gehenna and they will suffer for a period of time commensurate with the evil and rebellion performed in the body while constrained by Time upon the Earth; subsequent to this period of suffering, the unrighteous will die a “second death” and cease to exist forever (Revelation 20:14; Matthew 10:28). The “second death” is necessary because God the Father, in His purity-holiness-righteousness, will NOT permit the destructiveness of sin to enter the Eternal Kingdom of God (Revelation 21:27).


2) Death of the body relevant to the faithful in Jesus Christ…


Every man and woman having placed their faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and having received forgiveness of sin and having received the indwelling Holy Spirit as the Seal/Guarantor relevant to the Covenant of Grace established by God the Father through the Son, Jesus Christ (Ephesians 1:13), these faithful men and women having trusted in Jesus Christ as Lord, at the point of death of the body in Time, they are instantaneously translated into the presence of God the Father in the Kingdom in their disembodied state that is fully cognitively acute/aware (2 Corinthians 5:8). Those who die with Jesus Christ as their Lord, will serve God in the Kingdom in a variety of occupations and positions as they were prepared for same during the process of Sanctification while in the body upon the Earth (1 Corinthians 6:3; Revelation 1:6 & 5:10).


At the resurrection, the faithful in Jesus Christ will receive a resurrected body fashioned like the resurrected body of Jesus Christ (Philippians 3:21) that is impervious to death, disease, pain, suffering (Revelation 21:4). Forever, the faithful in Jesus Christ will serve Him in the Kingdom and beyond if He so chooses and in the presence of our God there is joy and peace and assurance that is everlasting and beyond human comprehension (1 Corinthians 2:9).


3) What about babes (unborn/born), children, the mentally handicapped, who die in the Realm of Time?


The Holy Spirit has articulated within God’s Covenant (the Scriptures) that where there is no Law there is no sin (Romans 4:14; 5:13); therefore, babies, children having not attained an age of reason *(Numbers 14:28-30), the mentally handicapped, these lacking the ability to fully understand God’s righteous decrees via the Divine-Natural Law are NOT culpable for sin; therefore, upon the death of the body, these innocent before the Lord are escorted into His presence and they are restored to full acuity and spiritual life in order to enjoy the fullness of joy and peace that is found only in the presence of our loving God.


But Jesus said, “Let the children alone, and do not hinder them from coming to Me; for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.” Matthew 19:14 (NASB)


Speaking of the Eternal Realm, Jesus said…


Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm.”  John 18:36 (NASB)


*Note concerning the Age of Accountability/Reason as per Numbers 14:28-30 being 20-years-of-age. This is an assumption on my part relevant to what the Holy Spirit has said in a particular/specific dispensation. I do not know for certain what age my Lord considers a man or woman or child culpable for sin; I believe that this age varies with each person’s moral maturity and only our God knows that particular age (Psalm 139:2-3).




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  • YeshuaBoughtYeshuaBought 669 Pts   -  
    Jesus will ask you why you were judgemental.
    Happy_KillbotZeusAres42smoothie
  • Happy_KillbotHappy_Killbot 5557 Pts   -  
    What happened before you were born?

    As someone who has been legally dead, all I can say is that it is exactly like that.
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -  
    @YeshuaRedeemed ; Jesus knows that I stand for His word and His will...there is no such entity as a "bisexual Christian" and you have been deceived by heresy. You must choose between loyalty to Jesus Christ as your Lord or loyalty to Satan as your god.  You're living in self-deception and you are the "Walking Dead."




    Happy_Killbotsmoothie
  • Happy_KillbotHappy_Killbot 5557 Pts   -  
    RickeyD said:
    @YeshuaRedeemed ; Jesus knows that I stand for His word and His will...there is no such entity as a "bisexual Christian" and you have been deceived by heresy. You must choose between loyalty to Jesus Christ as your Lord or loyalty to Satan as your god.  You're living in self-deception and you are the "Walking Dead."




    @YeshuaRedeemed This. This is trolling. @RickeyD is trolling you.
    Plaffelvohfensmoothie
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • PlaffelvohfenPlaffelvohfen 3985 Pts   -  
    @RickeyD

    What Happens when I Die?

    I for one will be having a party!!

    smoothieHappy_Killbot
    " Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -   edited November 2019
    @Plaffelvohfen ; If you die without Jesus Christ as Lord for the mediation of your sin, you won't be having a party.

    Jesus taught...

    “There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and fared sumptuously every day. But there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, full of sores, who was laid at his gate, desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table. Moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

    “Then he cried and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.’ But Abraham said, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.’

    “Then he said, ‘I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father’s house, for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.’ Abraham said to him, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.’ And he said, ‘No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ But he said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.’ ”  Luke 16:19-31 (NKJV)





  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 5967 Pts   -  
    You just die and become a corpse, eaten by worms. And unless you happen to be in the negligibly small fraction of the human population that has achieved remarkable results acknowledged by a large fraction of the world's population, less than 100 years later nobody will even know you have ever existed.

    But not all. Those who worship Waukeen will be sent to a forgotten realm full of wine and gold. Only the most faithful believers will earn such privilege.
    Waukeen is not cruel, and she does not punish those who do not worship her. She just wants to be surrounded by the like-minded people, hence the immigration laws are pretty tight.

    It is never late to convert, brother.
    PlaffelvohfensmoothieAlofRIHappy_Killbot
  • PlaffelvohfenPlaffelvohfen 3985 Pts   -  
    AlofRIHappy_Killbot
    " Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -  
    @MayCaesar ; That is not what the Holy Spirit has said...but you are free to believe whatever comforts you and in that which you find solace.


  • SandSand 307 Pts   -  
    According to the Bible, when someone dies they cease to exist.
    Hell is not a real location, it is a symbolic place of the dead.
    Everyone good and bad goes to Hell. - Ecclesiastes 9:2,3

    Waking up from the dead is not a fantastical story.
    There is so much we do not know about the human body.
    People who are declared brain dead have been known to sometimes reanimate, days later.
    Now that people are embombed this no longer happens, in the USA.
    But sometimes happens in other places.

    Now that we have somewhat of an understanding about DNA, and that a person's body can be cloned from one cell.

    The Bible offers someone righteous to be restored to life after death.
    The only hindrance to this is the memories and the interworkings of brain cells.
    Scientists are learning more and more about the differences between cells and brain cells.
    Eventually, I think they will discover a way to restore a person's memories.


    AlofRI
  • SandSand 307 Pts   -  
    The spirit is not the person.
    It is like the electricity in a device.
    When a person dies they cease to exist.

  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 5967 Pts   -  
    @RickeyD

    Well, the Holy Spirit will not be allowed into the Waukeen's realm upon its death then. It is unfortunate.

    I think it still has a chance at the Flying Spaghetti Monster's realm though.
    AmericanFurryBoyPlaffelvohfenAlofRIHappy_Killbot
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  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -  
    @Sand ; Incorrect. According to the Holy Spirit, life truly begins when we shed this body of death and sin subsequent to having trusted in Jesus Christ (2 Corinthians 5:8).  If one dies having rejected Jesus Christ, then yes, the next life is replete with sorrow, self-loathing, suffering and ultimately the second death (Luke 16; Revelation 20:11-15).


  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -  
    @Sand ; Incorrect. It is the spirit of man that gives life to this decaying body; the spirit, upon death of the body, simply returns home to Eternity from which it originated. If you have trusted in Jesus Christ as Lord for the mediation of your sin, you will find life in the presence of our Creator forever (2 Corinthians 5:8). If you've rejected the suffering and death of Jesus Christ as payment for your sin, you will be relegated to Hades-Sheol/Torments awaiting the Judgment of the Condemned (Luke 16) where you will lose both body and soul in Hell (Revelation 20:11-15). Jesus warned you...



  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -   edited November 2019


    @RickeyD



    ***** *(Numbers 14:28-30), the mentally handicapped, these lacking the ability to fully understand God’s righteous decrees via the Divine-Natural Law are NOT culpable for sin; therefore, upon the death of the body, these innocent before the Lord are escorted into His presence and they are restored to full acuity and spiritual life in order to enjoy the fullness of joy and peace that is found only in the presence of our loving God.





    Traditional Christian doctrine held that illness was caused by sin. This belief was exactly in line with the gospels1 and was specifically confirmed by the Lateran Council in 1215. So it was that for centuries the sick and dying could safely be shunned and ignored. They must have deserved their condition, and attempts to help them were attempts to defy God's will. Monstrous human births were caused by the Devil having corrupted infants' souls, even before birth.

    The belief was universal in Christianity, and carried over from Catholicism into Protestant sects at the Reformation. Here are a few examples from Martin Luther:

    A large number of deaf, crippled and blind people are afflicted solely through the malice of the demon. And one must in no wise doubt that plagues, fevers and every sort of evil come from him.

    and it was not only physical problems, mental problems were also attributable to Satan.

    As for the demented, I hold it certain that all beings deprived of reason are thus afflicted only by the Devil.

    and anyone who doubted demonic causes for illness were ridiculed (and where possible tried as heretics)

    Idiots, the lame, the blind, the dumb, are men in whom the devils have established themselves: and all the physicians who heal these infirmities, as though they proceeded from natural causes, are ignorant blockheads....




    Again you are at odds with what the bible actually says as opposed to your reinterpretations...


    16 The LORD said to Moses, 17 “Say to Aaron: ‘For the generations to come none of your descendants who has a defect may come near to offer the food of his God. 18 No man who has any defect may come near: no man who is blind or lame, disfigured or deformed; 19 no man with a crippled foot or hand, 20 or who is hunchbacked or dwarfed, or who has any eye defect, or who has festering or running sores or damaged testicles. 21 No descendant of Aaron the priest who has any defect is to come near to present the offerings made to the LORD by fire. He has a defect; he must not come near to offer the food of his God. 22 

    AlofRI
  • SandSand 307 Pts   -  
    2 Corinthians 5:8 is referencing after Judgement day, look at verse 2 Corinthians 5:10.

    Romans 6:23 - "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."
    Romans 6:7 - "For he who has died has been freed from sin."

    These scriptures show that when a person dies they are freed from sin.
    The question is what happens after death.
    According to the Bible, when someone dies they cease to exist.

    It is not far fetched that the originator of life knows how to give live again.

  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -  
    @Dee ; All illness, disease, is the resultant of sin - the Curse - rebellion, as is death of the body. An overwhelming number of mental patients, mentally handicapped, suffer from demonic deception - persuasion - illness and though this is laughable to the Naturalist, we are in the midst of an incredible cosmic struggle between the forces of Light and the representatives of Darkness and each of us chooses our alliance. You have chosen to serve Darkness. Yeshua and Lucifer's war will continue to engulf us until God the Father brings all things into submission to Himself at the finality of Messiah-Yeshua's Millennial Reign.
  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -  
    @Sand Incorrect...you are not reading the Bible in its context...nowhere in the Word of God will you find that death of the body is finality...death of the body has no bearing on the spirit other than to free same from the constraints of Time.

    When the body of flesh dies away, the disembodied spirit of man is relegated to one of two places. The redeemed in Jesus Christ are translated in their disembodied spirit directly into the presence of God the Father (2 Corinthians 5:8). The disembodied spirit of the atheist/unbeliever is translated into Hades-Sheol/Torments (Luke 16) awaiting the Judgment of the Condemned (Revelation 20:11-15) which will manifest subsequent to the Millennial Reign of Messiah-Yeshua. There will be the resurrection of the just and the resurrection of the unjust.

    Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming when all who are in their graves will hear His voice 29and come out— those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment. 30I can do nothing by Myself; I judge only as I hear. And My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.…  John 5:20

    In our intermediary state, in our disembodied spirit, we will be more cognitively aware/acute than when constrained by the body in Time...if you reject Jesus Christ as Lord for the mediation of your sins, you will die without hope of life in God's Kingdom (Revelation 21:27).



  • AlofRIAlofRI 1484 Pts   -  
    @RickeyD I think you will know just as much about after you die as you remember about the time before you were "born".
  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -   edited November 2019
    @AlofRI ; What you think is irrelevant; what the Holy Spirit has said is Truth. You can think and die in your sin or you can trust and obey and find life in Jesus Christ as Lord. Your choice.


  • AlofRIAlofRI 1484 Pts   -  
    @MayCaesar ;
    Wine, gold and Waukeen, what else could a man want?? Maybe 70 or so of her sisters?? I'm converting! OOPS, what will I convert FROM? Can I just join the party? Gotta have something to do for the rest of eternity. :blush:
    PlaffelvohfenMayCaesar
  • AlofRIAlofRI 1484 Pts   -  
    Debra seems to be malfunctioning, she's acing me whatever I write …. or maybe I'm just getting smarter??:smirk:
  • xlJ_dolphin_473xlJ_dolphin_473 1712 Pts   -  
    RickeyD said:
    @AlofRI ; What you think is irrelevant; what the Holy Spirit has said is Truth. You can think and die in your sin or you can trust and obey and find life in Jesus Christ as Lord. Your choice.
    This is the false authority fallacy. You claim that the Holy Spirit's word is the absolute truth, but you are just accepting that on authority. You have no evidence.
  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -  
    @xlJ_dolphin_473 ; You're free to call the Holy Spirit a and Jesus a but hey, it's your judgment that is pending. Enjoy. Without Jesus as your Lord for the mediation of your sin, you have no hope and you will die sin and die in Hell.


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