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Why do I Hate Atheism, you ask?

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I hate Atheism and do have sorrowful contempt for the Atheist as they are a metastasizing cancer in American society...a society that my grandson will mature in and a society that I have spent 33-years serving in combination with the US Marine Corps Infantry and the Houston Police Department.

Atheists are Satan's emissaries in Time and in combination with the Socialist bourgeoisie - globalist progressive elites polluting America's moral values via abortion; sexual perversion; socialism; open borders; liberal policies advocating criminality in our municipalities; attacks on the 1st-2nd-4th-5th-14th Amendments; America will surely die in liberal apostasy and it is the Atheist that is indicative of God's wrath on the American people. God has given the American people what they wanted...the right to kill their babies for convenience; the right to engage in every form of sexual perversity known to mankind; therefore, the Atheist now vomits their demonic rhetoric and their demonic sexual perversity and they shed the blood of innocence without shame or care.

You represent generations of youth in America that have been brainwashed by socialists elites beginning with John Dewey in 1900 up through our modern-day educators and globalists and politicians who hate America, hate America's founding and teach socialism and Darwinism as the Gospel of Satan, America's new god. America's Constitutional Republic cannot be sustained when the Atheistic ideology of "moral relativism" is the prevailing mindset among the American people.

Our Constitution was created for a moral and religious people only and the experiment of a representative democracy with a very limited government thereby maximizing freedom to and for the people...this form of limited government intervention equating to freedom for the people can only exist when the society so governed possesses the restraint of the Holy Spirit in their heart to battle the sin-nature, the narcissism, present in each of us. Atheism wars against sustainable mores, norms, values, essential to our Constitutional Republic; therefore, Atheism is death to America and the Atheist is a curse upon the Biblical American family unit i.e. the basic bed-rock foundation for a healthy and happy and sustainable American culture! 


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  • Happy_KillbotHappy_Killbot 5557 Pts   -  
    Just out of curiosity, did anyone actually ask why he hates atheists?
    Zombieguy1987
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • What happened to following Jesus Christ who was accepting of everyone, all creeds, colors, and religions? The guy that was all-forgiving? That Jesus guy who had no hate? Also, that Jesus guy that didn't believe everything everyone told him beforehand? Jesus Christ, who advised people to try and not be part of the flock of sheep that just followed everyone else? 
    Zombieguy1987



  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -  
    @ZeusAres42 ; Jesus did not accept those who mocked and denied Him and He used wisdom and discernment in interacting with the people who opposed His message...Jesus knew who loved Him and who hated Him.

    “Now whatever city or town you enter, inquire who in it is worthy, and stay there till you go out. 12And when you go into a household, greet it. 13If the household is worthy, let your peace come upon it. But if it is not worthy, let your peace return to you. 14And whoever will not receive you nor hear your words, when you depart from that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet. 15Assuredly, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city!"  Matthew 10:11-15







  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -  
    @ZeusAres42 ; Jesus did not accept those who mocked and denied Him and He used wisdom and discernment in interacting with the people who opposed His message...Jesus knew who loved Him and who hated Him.

    “Now whatever city or town you enter, inquire who in it is worthy, and stay there till you go out. 12And when you go into a household, greet it. 13If the household is worthy, let your peace come upon it. But if it is not worthy, let your peace return to you. 14And whoever will not receive you nor hear your words, when you depart from that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet. 15Assuredly, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city!"  Matthew 10:11-15







  • ZeusAres42ZeusAres42 Emerald Premium Member 2668 Pts   -   edited December 2019

    But Jesus Christ never hated anyone. Nor did he go around suggesting that Atheists were to be hated, and nor did he suggest that they were deluded by Satan.

    If you love Jesus and God so much then why portray them as some entity full of hate?



  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -  
    @ZeusAres42 ; Who said Jesus never hated? What Does Jesus Hate? -The Deeds of the Nicolaitans takes one of the words in the Bible often skimmed over and reveals the true meaning of it in a manner that could revolutionize the way Christians impact the world. In Revelation 2:6 and 15, Jesus twice referred to the word Nicolaitans by saying that He hated both their doctrines and deeds. It is the only time in the Bible where Jesus said that He hated something. It was important enough for Jesus to warn the Church about it after He was already seated at the right hand of God the Father! What Does Jesus Hate? -The Deeds of the Nicolaitans, reveals the answer to that question and shows how it has indeed infiltrated and affected the Church over the ages even until now. Rather than leaving you hanging, it shows ways that the Church can change and how much more effective it can be when everyone discovers how much God really wants to use us. This book is a must-read if you want to see if your way of thinking has been influenced by the Nicolaitans and how to change it.  https://www.xulonpress.com/bookstore/bookdetail.php?PB_ISBN=9781498478359&HC_ISBN=
  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -  
  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 5967 Pts   -   edited December 2019
    You have spent 33 years working jobs that had you put your life on the line daily, and yet you still experience such petty emotions as hatred towards those you disagree with? Something is fishy here. This line of work should have hardened you to the point where virtually nothing can upset you. Yet someone not believing in god makes you angry...
    Marine corps that I have met were all absolutely amazing, warm and friendly guys and girls. It would be unthinkable for them to pick on someone over religious matters.

    Something does not add up in your story.
    PlaffelvohfenAmericanFurryBoysmoothieZombieguy1987ZeusAres42Happy_Killbot
  • @RickeyD

    Not being a fan of ideas is not the same thing as hating people. 

    If Jesus Christ did exist then I prefer to think of him as a kind person rather than thinking of him as some evil person full of hate of multiple people. I mean that is from what I remember learning about him. Perhaps they teach Christianity differently in your part of the world? Either that or you've seriously missalreheanded what you've learnt? 



  • PlaffelvohfenPlaffelvohfen 3985 Pts   -   edited December 2019
    @Happy_Killbot

    Why bother? There's no point trying to reason with someone who does not value reason...

    He hates the freedom atheists or humanists enjoy. You have to understand that he's an abject willful slave, and resent those not under his imagined Master's power. 

    It is interesting that he claims to have "served" the country and that he was a "police officer"... Not really surprising, it fits perfectly with the slave/master existential paradigm his psyche seems to be built upon... If he was one, he probably was of those power tripping abuser disgracing the force, one of those sleazy ones who'd plant or destroy evidence to either "punish" someone who's defying his "authority" or to defend a fellow officer who is abusing the same authority...  

    Such individuals are going through life in constant fear, they cannot handle autonomy and viscerally need a master, a commander, a shepherd, a god...  Basically they need an authority to bow down to and grovel... The grovelling part is an important aspect of their mind, it fuels their hatred of those refusing to be enslaved, they just cannot fathom why someone would assume freedom, of their own will to boot!! Talk about adding insult to injury, right? 

    Considering this master/slave paradigm and the fixation he has on sodomites and other sexually loaded terms, I think his Dominatrix mistress is making a good living...
    Happy_KillbotZeusAres42
    " Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -  
    @MayCaesar ; When you love something and/or someone and you've devoted your life to that thing or person, you become rather protective, appreciative, of them and you take offense to anything or anyone that seeks to do them harm. Atheism is a metastasizing boil on the soul of America and like a cancer, the Atheistic ideology of moral relativism via the insanity of Progressive Socialism destroys the life of any people and you are representative of that virulent detestable malignancy. 

    Progressive Socialism - Party of Deception and Death: https://rickeyholtsclaw.com/2018/01/26/progressivism-satans-party-of-death/ 


    BaconToes
  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -   edited December 2019
    @ZeusAres42 ; If Jesus is not your Lord, He cares not what you would like to think of Him. If Jesus is not your Lord, you are His enemy as an atheist....you serve His enemy, Satan. What you would like to think is irrelevant in the Eternal scheme of things. Your thinking will die with you in your mindless atheism. You do NOT know Jesus Christ and His wrath and His justice!




  • RickeyD said:
    @MayCaesar ; When you love something and/or someone and you've devoted your life to that thing or person, you become rather protective, appreciative, of them and you take offense to anything or anyone that seeks to do them harm. Atheism is a metastasizing boil on the soul of America and like a cancer, the Atheistic ideology of moral relativism via the insanity of Progressive Socialism destroys the life of any people and you are representative of that virulent detestable malignancy. 

    Progressive Socialism - Party of Deception and Death: https://rickeyholtsclaw.com/2018/01/26/progressivism-satans-party-of-death/ 


    How can someone void of any belief cause offence? I mean this is like saying that someone who just walked past a shop without buying anything also stole from the shop. 



  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -   edited December 2019
    @ZeusAres42 ; The atheist is not void beliefs...they know our Creator exists...the atheist is a petulant and deceiver like their spiritual father Satan. The atheist lies to them self, their family, friends, God, because they love their aberrant lust and their narcissism more than God and His Truth.

    In this life, a life constrained by Time, you have but two-options concerning servitude and Eternity. You are either a servant of God the Father via Jesus Christ as your Lord and you will serve God for Eternity - or - you're a servant of Satan in your rejection of Jesus as Lord and serve him in Time and will suffer a similar fate as he in Hell.

    There are NO other options available to you.  Unbeknownst to most, this life constrained by Time is NOTHING more than preparation for Eternity, "many" will graduate to death in sin and Hell and only a "few" will graduate to life and service in God's Kingdom. It's YOUR choice!!! 


  • @RickeyD
    One of my great Uncles spent ten years as an officer in the US Navy. He also worked corrections for roughly forty years. In addition, he is a Christian who loves all he meets unless they are rude or ignorant. I don’t really believe that you serving for two years and then patrolling for 31 could make you see stuff that would radicalize you this much.
    PlaffelvohfenMayCaesarsmoothieZeusAres42
    Not every quote you read on the internet is true- Abraham Lincoln
  • Happy_KillbotHappy_Killbot 5557 Pts   -  
    @Plaffelvohfen I expected as much, it's so sad that this guy "stands for America" but has no idea what this country was founded on or what it is all about. His extreme authoritarian desire for a theocratic reformation is the most disgusting thing I have ever encountered.
    Plaffelvohfensmoothie
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • RickeyD said:
    @ZeusAres42 ; The atheist is not void beliefs...they know our Creator exists...the atheist is a petulant and deceiver like their spiritual father Satan. The atheist lies to them self, their family, friends, God, because they love their aberrant lust and their narcissism more than God and His Truth.

    In this life, a life constrained by Time, you have but two-options concerning servitude and Eternity. You are either a servant of God the Father via Jesus Christ as your Lord and you will serve God for Eternity - or - you're a servant of Satan in your rejection of Jesus as Lord and serve him in Time and will suffer a similar fate as he in Hell.

    There are NO other options available to you.  Unbeknownst to most, this life constrained by Time is NOTHING more than preparation for Eternity, "many" will graduate to death in sin and Hell and only a "few" will graduate to life and service in God's Kingdom. It's YOUR choice!!! 


    Ok then. So how do you view a person who isn't an atheist but is simply just a person without belief or just a person that doesn't follow any religion?





  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -  
    @ZeusAres42 ; Every person believes in something...we are wired to believe and worship. If a person is in the World and believes that God  exists but simply does not know the Living God's Name or His righteous decrees, I want to talk to that person...I would like to buy them a cup of coffee and introduce them to Jesus Christ and His words; on the other hand; the Atheist is a committed enemy of my Lord, a servant of Satan in Time in their arrogance, their pride, their rebellion to Truth...the atheist is to be loathed as they actively war against God and strive to make others as much a child of Hell as they. Jesus warned about the Atheist...


  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 5967 Pts   -   edited December 2019
    RickeyD said:
    @MayCaesar ; When you love something and/or someone and you've devoted your life to that thing or person, you become rather protective, appreciative, of them and you take offense to anything or anyone that seeks to do them harm. Atheism is a metastasizing boil on the soul of America and like a cancer, the Atheistic ideology of moral relativism via the insanity of Progressive Socialism destroys the life of any people and you are representative of that virulent detestable malignancy. 

    Progressive Socialism - Party of Deception and Death: https://rickeyholtsclaw.com/2018/01/26/progressivism-satans-party-of-death/ 
    Absolutely not. True love is one that easily overcomes any obstacles; people who are in love trust each other and respect each other, and they will not be upset over someone else not loving their beloved. If you do get upset over it, then you are not in love. You do not love the person really; rather, you use the person as a shield masking your deep insecurities, and should that shield become transparent just for a moment, all of those insecurities bubble up and you experience strong negative emotions.

    I love mathematics; it is the part of my life that gives my by far the greatest joy. Do you think I hate those who do not worship mathematics? No; one's opinion on mathematics has 0 impact on how I feel, or what I think about them for that matter. And I have never served in Marine Corps or in the Police; I am just a simple guy going about his life.

    Interesting that you mentioned socialism; it is an ideological sibling of Christian fundamentalism. Same collectivist approach, same ideological dogmatism, and same desire to control people through threats.

    Socialism is not a result of atheism; socialism is a result of deontologism. Which is characterised by rejection of the idea of universal truth and replacement of it with ideological truth. Religious fundamentalism is based on the same philosophical principle. The only real difference is, religion is taught through fictional stories, while socialism is taught through fictional histories.
    Happy_KillbotsmoothieZeusAres42
  • VaulkVaulk 813 Pts   -   edited December 2019
    What happened to following Jesus Christ who was accepting of everyone, all creeds, colors, and religions? The guy that was all-forgiving? That Jesus guy who had no hate? Also, that Jesus guy that didn't believe everything everyone told him beforehand? Jesus Christ, who advised people to try and not be part of the flock of sheep that just followed everyone else? 
    Jesus Christ as well as God himself have left multiple passages about hatred in the Bible.  The key thing to remember here is that hatred does not necessarily mean the same thing that we use the word for today.  In multiple places "Hatred" means to count someone as your enemy, to lack favor for someone or something.  Favoring is a choice, not an emotion.  Furthermore "Love thy enemy as thy neighbor" is explanation enough that while you may choose not to favor someone or something...you aren't to develop hatred per se for that person.  

    Cross referencing is an important and critical function when reading the Bible.  Additionally, Jesus Christ was not accepting of all religions: Isaiah 44:6 Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: “I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god.

    As far as Atheism and Atheists go: The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

    Also, something you might not realize about JC:

    Image may contain 3 people meme text that says WHATI WOULD JESUS DO MAYBE HED FASHION AWHIP OUT OF ROPE AND ACCOST PEOPLE THROUGH THE USE OF FORCE WHILE DESTROYING PUBLIC PROPERTDONT FORGET THAT makeamemeorg

    For what crime 
    you ask?  Sacrilege, that's it.  

    John 2:14-17 New International Version (NIV)

    14 In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!” 17 His disciples remembered that it is written: “Zeal for your house will consume me.”[a]

    ZeusAres42
    "If there's no such thing as a question then what kind of questions do people ask"?

    "There's going to be a special place in Hell for people who spread lies through the veil of logical fallacies disguised as rational argument".

    "Oh, you don't like my sarcasm?  Well I don't much appreciate your stup!d".


  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -   edited December 2019
    Spoken like a true white evangelical toxic American Christian and no doubt a fully paid up KKK member as you hate homosexuals, lesbians , unmarried mothers , socialists , communists , free thinkers , pro choice , liberals , Democrats , Muslims , Catholics , Hindus , pro choice etc , etc , so I guess blacks have to be on the list.

    It’s no surprise you hate Atheism and Atheists as you also hate new born babies born with cancer as you totally agree that it’s their punishment for their ancestors rebellion, your god hates them also only a hate filled creature like you and your god could think it entirely just to watch a baby die of cancer.

    The American military seems to attract bible thumping cretins like you,  no doubt the military must have delighted when the babbling half -wit George W Bush babbled on about “ Holy crusades” thus inspiring another generation of religious  bigots dreaming about slaughtering Muslims in far off lands.
    The biggest threat to world peace comes not from commies , socialists or Muslims but from your type of American who see everything outside their neantherdahl world view as the enemy , this world view is informed by the words of a book written by flea ridden ( no doubt) bronze age goat herds 

    You’ve reinvented god in the image of yourself as in a gun toting,  anti universal health care, anti social welfare , anti social housing , climate change denying bigot.

    I dread to think what happened any atheists in the military with you as their back up no doubt they were brutally bullied and doubt offered no protection certainly from you and your type.

    Over here in Europe religion is very low key and people of all colour , class and creed get along mostly just fine , it takes your type of “Christianity “ to truly demonstrate how to hate and discriminate against  others .

    It must thrill you that a fellow “Christian “ @Vaulk  gave you a fist bump for your hate speech 



    The simple fact that we label the person we are talking about as a “sinner” indicates that we do not have love for them in the first place.

    To label someone a “sinner” is to imply that they are outside of God’s grace and unless they clean up their act, cannot be forgiven.

    To label someone a “sinner” reveals an “us vs. them” mentality, where you are the “righteous” person looking down your nose at the poor, wretched, ignorant “sinners” down below who just cannot get their act together. If only they would listen to what you tell them to do…

    Christians pay lip service to the idea that “We are all sinners” but we reveal that we do not really believe this when label someone else a “sinner.”

    By labeling them a “sinner,” we condemn the sin of someone else as worse than our own. 



    Also one last thing are you a reformed alcoholic? I’ve asked you this several times and you won’t answer why’s that?

    Are you a closet Homosexual is this what’s fueling your rage?

    I suggest all your egoism and constant bragging about the military suggest a guy who lacked a strong  male influence in his life suggesting your father possibly abandoned the family or was a boozer and “fly by night “ you are trying this to prove yourself ...... No consultation fee necessary on this occasion, but best to get it all out as something sure as Hell is eating you 

    ZeusAres42Happy_Killbot
  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    @RickeyD

    Stalin , Mao , Hitler did not kill in the name of Atheism where the religious historically have and still do ......Cast your mind back to George W Bush and his “Holy Crusade “.......
    Happy_Killbot
  • @RickeyD
    One of my great Uncles spent ten years as an officer in the US Navy. He also worked corrections for roughly forty years. In addition, he is a Christian who loves all he meets unless they are rude or ignorant. I don’t really believe that you serving for two years and then patrolling for 31 could make you see stuff that would radicalize you this much.
    Just like you've got Muslim extremists/radicalists this guy clearly a Christian extremist/radicalist. 

    And it is people like these that lead to the social stigma among the genuine peace loving Christiana and Muslims.

    They are insult to the religion they claim to follow.
    Plaffelvohfen



  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -  
    @ZeusAres42 ; You speak from spiritual ignorance lacking the discernment to differentiate between the Truth of Jesus Christ-Yeshua and the lies of Allah. This is why you have positioned yourself to die in your sin and your atheistic insanity, you have chosen to live a lie as opposed to courageously walking in God's will; therefore, you will reap what you sow and the Heavens will agree with God that His judgment upon you is justified.
  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -  
    @Dee ; Hitler hated Jews and Christians and Catholics...Dee, Hitler was a socialist-satanic atheist who sought the alliance of Islam-Allah-Satan in his fervor to destroy the Jewish people and circumvent the eschatological future of God's Plans through the Nation of Israel. It was Hitler's Holocaust that backfired on Satan-Allah and the "Never Again" movement was initiated by the Jewish people and eventually, 1948, the Jewish State was reborn in fulfillment of Ezekiel's regathering prophecy (Ezekiel 34:13). Then, in 1967, the Jews recaptured Jerusalem in the Six-Day-War. It was 1948 and 1967 that restarted God's eschatological time-clock that had been stopped since Titus and the Tenth-Roman-Legion destroyed Jerusalem in 70AD.

    Every single Socialist-Marxist/Communist dictator was an atheist and served the will of Satan in their aberrant lust for power and dominance culminating in 100-million deaths over the previous 100-years. Dee, you serve the same god, Satan, as these murderous Socialists and you have positioned yourself do die a death in Hell commensurate with theirs because like these mindless socialists, you actively war against God in your alliance with Satan and your demonic positioning is guaranteeing you a most horrific judgment lest you repent and turn to Jesus Christ before the Age of Grace expires for YOU! 


    Plaffelvohfen
  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -   edited December 2019
    @MayCaesar Socialism and atheism are blood-brothers, their DNA is a perfect match just like the DNA of evolution and atheism...we have the satanic trinity in Evolution=Atheism=Socialism.

    How and why did the choir-boy-turned-trainee-priest, Stalin, become one of the greatest mass murderers in history,18 one for whom killing a million people seemed to be no different from mowing grass?

    Undoubtedly a huge part of the answer goes back to his reading Darwin at the tender age of 13. This gave him the ‘justification’ his mind needed to reject the concept of God and hence the authority of the Bible in his life.

    It also paved the way for him to accept the atheistic revolutionism of Marx, and to remove any restraint he might have had to killing off his opponents, i.e. the ruthless elimination of the ‘unfit’; perhaps, in the process, wreaking unconscious vengeance for some of his childhood pain.

    The seminary he attended obviously had no adequate answer for his claims of atheism. And whatever truth it taught was not helped by the un-Christlike behaviour of its teachers. Then, having rejected God and His Word, the teenage Stalin filled the spiritual vacuum in his mind with the thoughts and beliefs of revolutionaries. The rest is history.

    https://creation.com/stalin


     


  • RickeyD said:
    @ZeusAres42 ; You speak from spiritual ignorance lacking the discernment to differentiate between the Truth of Jesus Christ-Yeshua and the lies of Allah. This is why you have positioned yourself to die in your sin and your atheistic insanity, you have chosen to live a lie as opposed to courageously walking in God's will; therefore, you will reap what you sow and the Heavens will agree with God that His judgment upon you is justified.
    Judge not lest you be judged. You've got your one way ticket to hell. May God have mercy on your soul.
    Plaffelvohfen



  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    @RickeyD

    Here is a photo of your great grandfather you sound exactly like him .......


    ZeusAres42
  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -  
    @ZeusAres42 ; I do wish the Atheist would at least study and know the content of what they vomit. In Matthew 7, Jesus initiated His teaching on judgment by speaking to judgment in hypocrisy; hence, the warning to not judge the speck in your brother's eye when you have a plank/board in your own eye. In other words, don't judge when you are sinning in like manner.

    BUT...Jesus later instructs His followers to not judge according to appearances but to judge using a "righteous judgment" or righteous standard i.e. the word of God. Jesus knows that each of us judges all things...each day we judge in order to choose our proclivities in life; how else does one practice discernment? Jesus tells His faithful to judge all things using righteousness as per the word of God; therefore, my judgment relevant to atheism is righteous as atheism is representative of Satan, the icon of evil, in Time. Every atheist is Satan's emissary upon the Earth and they are to be loathed and treated with caution for they walk in darkness and are opposed to the things of God as they represent the will of Satan in Time and death in Hell for the soul so deceived.




    ZeusAres42

  • Sometimes I really can't see any way how some people can be de-radicalized. As it's been pointed out by some great minds of the past I guess in many cases you just can't reason a person out of a position they never reasoned themselves into in the first place.
    PlaffelvohfenDee



  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -  
    @Dee ; Have you read the Nazi Bible, Dee?  Do you understand that Hitler was a master propagandist?  Are you so naive as to believe that Hitler was acting under the authority of a Jewish Messiah? Are you really that lost, Dee?

    Hitler’s Table Talk is a compilation of sayings by Hitler in private conversations that were recorded by other Nazis. It is a good source for what Hitler really thought.

    “…the only way of getting rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 61

    “It’s Christianity that’s the . It’s in perpetual conflict with itself.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 61

    “In the long run, National Socialism and religion will no longer be able to exist together.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 6

    “Kerrl, with the noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don’t believe the thing’s possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 145

    “As far as we are concerned, we’ve succeeded in chasing the Jews from our midst and excluding Christianity from our political life.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 394

    “There is something very unhealthy about Christianity.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 418

    “The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity. Christianity is a prototype of Bolshevism: the mobilisation by the Jew of the masses of slaves with the object of undermining society. Thus one understands that the healthy elements of the Roman world were proof against this doctrine.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 75-76

    “When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let’s be the only people who are immunised against the disease.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 145

    “Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity. It will last another hundred years, two hundred years perhaps. My regret will have been that I couldn’t, like whoever the prophet was, behold the promised land from afar. We are entering into a conception of the world that will be a sunny era, an era of tolerance.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 343-344

    “Pure Christianity—the Christianity of the catacombs—is concerned with translating the Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 146

    “Christianity is the worst of the regressions that mankind can ever have undergone, and it’s the Jew who, thanks to this diabolic invention, has thrown him back fifteen centuries.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 322

    “The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity. Bolshevism practises a lie of the same nature, when it claims to bring liberty to men, whereas in reality it seeks only to enslave them. In the ancient world, the relations between men and gods were founded on an instinctive respect. It was a world enlightened by the idea of tolerance. Christianity was the first creed in the world to exterminate its adversaries in the name of love. Its key-note is intolerance.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 7

    “But Christianity is an invention of sick brains : one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery. A negro with his tabus is crushingly superior to the human being who seriously believes in Transubstantiation.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 144

    “It took fourteen centuries for Christianity to reach the peak of savagery and stupidity.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 314

    “Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 7

    “We must recognise, of course, that, amongst us, Christianity is coloured by Germanism.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 46

    “We’ll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State. We shall continue to preach the doctrine of National Socialism, and the young will no longer be taught anything but the truth.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 62

    “Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 51

    “By nature the Duce is a freethinker, but he decided to choose the path of concessions. For my part, in his place I’d have taken the path of revolution. I’d have entered the Vatican and thrown everybody out—reserving the right to apologise later: “Excuse me, it was a mistake.” But the result would have been, they’d have been outside!” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 145

    “So it’s not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death. A slow death has something comforting about it. The dogma of Christianity gets worn away before the advances of science. Religion will have to make more and more concessions. Gradually the myths crumble. All that’s left is to prove that in nature there is no frontier between the organic and the inorganic.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 59

    “But, even so, it’s impossible eternally to hold humanity in bondage with lies. After all, it was only between the sixth and eighth centuries that Christianity was imposed on our peoples by princes who had an alliance of interests with the shavelings. Our peoples had previously succeeded in living all right without this religion. I have six divisions of SS composed of men absolutely indifferent in matters of religion. It doesn’t prevent them from going to their deaths with serenity in their souls.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 143

    “Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers—already, you see, the world had fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing was Christianity!—then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies heroism and which opens the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 667 (Talk about Islamo-fascism!)

    “The priests of antiquity were closer to nature, and they sought modestly for the meaning of things. Instead of that, Christianity promulgates its inconsistent dogmas and imposes them by force. Such a religion carries within it intolerance and persecution. It’s the bloodiest conceivable.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 322-323

    “One cannot succeed in conceiving how much cruelty, ignominy and falsehood the intrusion of Christianity has spelt for this world of ours. If the misdeeds of Christianity were less serious in Italy, that’s because the people of Rome, having seen them at work, always knew exactly the worth of the Popes before whom Christendom prostrated itself.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 288

    “With what clairvoyance the authors of the eighteenth, and especially those of the past, century criticised Christianity and passed judgment on the evolution of the Churches!” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 88

    “When understanding of the universe has become widespread, when the majority of men know that the stars are not sources of light but worlds, perhaps inhabited worlds like ours, then the Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 59

    “The fact that the Japanese have retained their political philosophy, which is one of the essential reasons for their successes, is due to their having been saved in time from the views of Christianity.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 393

    “This terrorism in religion is the product, to put it briefly, of a Jewish dogma, which Christianity has universalised and whose effect is to sow trouble and confusion in men’s minds.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 393

    “It may be asked whether concluding a concordat with the churches wouldn’t facilitate our exercise of power…. I’m convinced that any pact with the Church can offer only a provisional benefit, for sooner or later the scientific spirit will disclose the harmful character of such a compromise. Thus the State will have based its existence on a foundation that one day will collapse.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pp. 58-59

    “It is to these private customs that peoples owe their present characters. Christianity, of course, has reached the peak of absurdity in this respect. And that’s why one day its structure will collapse. Science has already impregnated humanity. Consequently, the more Christianity clings to its dogmas, the quicker it will decline.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 60

    More links:

    http://www.geocities.com/mikem2u/hitler.html

    http://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Table-Talk-Adolf-Hitler/dp/1929631057

    http://davnet.org/kevin/articles/table.html




  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    @RickeyD

    **** Have you read the Nazi Bible, Dee?

    Yes I’m an authority on your bible thank you 

      *****Do you understand that Hitler was a master propagandist? 

    A bit like you when you’re justifying babies getting cancer and saying it’s excellent as it’s gods plan 

    **** Are you so naive as to believe that Hitler was acting under the authority of a Jewish Messiah?

    The god you worship is the essence of evil 

     ****Are you really that lost, Dee?

    I was indeed lost when I believed in the B S you believed in but now I’m “saved “ alleluia......

  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    @ZeusAres42

    He is totally skull f—-cked and there’s no return . The poor wretch is lashing out at everyone , I’ve asked him 6 times is he a former boozer / druggie he refuses to answer as that type nearly always end up like him as in they substitute the bile for the bottle and go way over the top.

    I’m also convinced he’s a closet Homosexual as his hatred for them is beyond irrational the poor wretch is fighting so many demons .....should I pray for him:)? 
    Plaffelvohfen
  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -  
    @Dee ; You never "believed," Dee...you played games...you are what you've always been i.e. a narcissistic, arrogant, lying, deceiving, atheist seeking to compel others to follow you in the ways of death and Hell.


  • ZeusAres42ZeusAres42 Emerald Premium Member 2668 Pts   -   edited December 2019

    I am very familiar with that verse from Mathew, also by Luke and what Jesus goes on to say after that. You clearly are not and you just demonstrated that quite clearly in your last post. You actually don't know squat about the religion you try and preach. And just cherry-picking bits here and there and thus twisting scripture to satisfy your own deranged lifestyle that is full to the brim with hate against anyone that does not share the exact same beliefs as you does absolutely nothing to advance your position. All of what you do undermines your position. Also, using the appeal to spirituality does nothing either. Appeals to faith and spirituality are "debate stoppers;" you're here preach or troll or both. This site is for rational discourse and this appears to be something you're completely incapable of.

    By the way, I am not an Atheist. I am just someone that doesn't follow a theistic religion and doesn't have any theistic beliefs. And there's nothing more to it.

    What's really amusing about your last two posts to me is that you're calling me irrational while using an appeal to spirituality, grouping all atheists as some satanic cult and saying what I said is vomit lmao. I mean the irony; it speaks volumes! And given your obvious lower evolutionary scale brain I expect more verbal diarrhea to come from you in future posts.




    "Truth matters and needs to be rightly discerned.

    Many of the people who quote Matthew 7:1 care neither for the rest of Scripture’s content on proper discernment nor care to quote other sayings of Jesus like Mark 8:34, Matthew 5:27-30, or John 14:6.They know that nobody wants to argue against Jesus, and if someone falls into their trap, they can then call them names like “bigot,” “hatemonger,” or “intolerant.”This certainly does not mean that Christians have liberty to judge in a hateful and bigoted way, which happens all too often. Don’t be like the Westboro Baptist Church, but rather speak the truth in love (Ephesians 4:15).The issue therefore is not if we should judge, but rather the right manner in which we are to judge.Matthew 7:2-5 clearly explains that the type of judging that Jesus condemns is a hypocritical and self-righteous judgment.For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.

    Instead of condemning all types of judging, we should condemn hypocritical and self-righteous judgments.

    Notice the middle bit in bold above. Below is the epitome of who you are:


    What you are most definitely not is: (Ephesians 4:15)


    You have clearly failed in your path. Enjoy your stay in hell. And like I said, may God have mercy on your soul.
    Plaffelvohfen



  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    @RickeyD

    ***** You never "believed," Dee...you played games..

    Talking about yourself again you spend that much time telling everyone about your “Christianity” it’s a bit like “ The lady doth protest to much “

    .****you are what you've always been i.e. a narcissistic,

    Yep , got me there but I am fairly ravishing 

    **** arrogant

    Superbly confident in my own abilities I would say 

    , ****lying,

    As in ......you’re a lovely person ....oh dear there I go again

    ***deceiving,

    I’m a former magician so spot on 

    ****atheist seeking to compel others to follow you in the ways of death and Hell. 

    The ways of fun more like as in boozing , screwing and a bit of gambling what’s not to like?


    Tell me are you a closet Homosexual you keep going on about them and it’s telling you chose two carriers that surrounded you with men , you like a bit of the tube steak it seems?

    Also are you a former booze -hound you got some rage on ya boy 
  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -   edited December 2019
    @ZeusAres42 ; Jesus died for the homosexual as well but the LGBTQ community and participant MUST REPENT (STOP) of the sin and sincerely believe in their heart and confess with their mouth that Jesus Christ is God who died to pay their sin-debt and that He was resurrected for their justification leading to Eternal life (Romans 10:9-10).

    Ephesians 4 is speaking of the community of "believers"....please read in context...

    but speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head, even Christ, 16 from whom the whole body, being fitted and held together by what every joint supplies, according to the proper working of each individual part, causes the growth of the body for the building up of itself in love.  Ephesians 4:15-16 (NASB)

    I do speak the Truth in love...love for my Lord who has commanded that I be here to warn you that you are allowing your sexual perversion to bar you from entering the Kingdom of God because you love your perversion and demonic obsessions more than you desire to be free from them and find life in Jesus Christ as Lord over your life. Don't blame the messenger for telling you the Truth. There is no subtle way to warn you that your involvement in sexual perversion/filth is destroying your soul. I am honest with you, appreciate that if nothing else!



    ZeusAres42
  • TKDBTKDB 694 Pts   -  
    @Dee

    What do your arguments, have to do, with the theme of this specific forum?

    "He is totally skull f—-cked and there’s no return."

    "The poor wretch is lashing out at everyone, I’ve asked him 6 times is he a former boozer / druggie he refuses to answer as that type nearly always end up like him as in they substitute the bile for the bottle and go way over the top."

    "I’m also convinced he’s a closet Homosexual as his hatred for them is beyond irrational the poor wretch is fighting so many demons .....should I pray for him:)? "

    This is the theme of this forum:

    "Why do I Hate Atheism, you ask?"


    RickeyDDee


  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -  
    @TKDB ; @Dee ; Jesus said that you would know them by their deeds, works, behavior (Matthew 7:15-20) and the Holy Spirit has said our words flow from the heart and those words differentiate the good from the evil.




  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -  

  • RickeyD said:
    A brilliant description of yourself there. Were you looking in the mirror when you posted that?
    Plaffelvohfen



  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -  
    @ZeusAres42 Please go your way...I think we're done. Have a wonderful life.



  • RickeyD said:
    @ZeusAres42 Please go your way...I think we're done. Have a wonderful life.



    I didn't say there is no God. I'm not surprised you would accuse me of being of that position though. Anyway, since no one can reason with you since you never used reason in the first place then we might as well just toy with you.

    This is a great Gnosis song btw:



    Plaffelvohfen



  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    @TKDB

    Backing your fellow hater up no surprise really .....get a room guys ......
    Plaffelvohfen
  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -  
    @Dee ; Why do you interpret Truth as "hate?"




    ZeusAres42
  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    @RickeyD

    ***** Why do you interpret Truth as "hate?" 

    Why do you interpret Truth as "hate?" 
    Plaffelvohfen
  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 5967 Pts   -  
    RickeyD said:
    Hitler hated Jews and Christians and Catholics...
    Where do you think Swastika came from? It is a Catholic symbol which Hitler appropriated, being raised as Catholic. He was not a fan of Catholicism, but it certainly played an important role in the evolution of his thought.

    National-socialism is rooted in quasi-religious concepts. The entire "Aryan race" idea, which contradicted history (and Hitler could not not know it), was a fantasy story used to unite people under a group of individuals regarded as saints, as unquestionable authority - that is exactly what Christian church did in Europe a millennium before.

    Religion and totalitarianism have always been best friends. Not every totalitarianism is technically religious, but every totalitarian system is based around same type of dogmatic concepts as every religion. And it is not surprise that so many theocracies are totalitarian: half of the Middle Eastern states nowadays, half of Europe in Medieval times... Any ideology that entails certain unquestionable statements bears totalitarian elements.
    PlaffelvohfenJesusisGod777888
  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -  
    @MayCaesar ;  What historical revisionist, brainwashing institution, did you attend?

    Hitler and National Socialism

    National Socialism (Nazism; NS), German political movement led by Adolf Hitler. The notion of combining the concepts of "national" and "social" became popular in Germany before World War I. In 1919 an antisemitic right-wing political party called the German Workers' Party (Deutsche Arbeiterpartei) was founded in Munich; this party adopted the combined "national-social" ideology. In 1920 the party added "National Socialist" to its name and thus became the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei,NSDAP or Nazi Party). A year later Adolf Hitler, a man who started out as a public speaker for the party, became its undisputed leader, or Fuehrer. The National Socialist ideology was an outgrowth of earlier political theories that also gave birth to fascism--- a political movement that became popular in Italy some years before the Nazis took over Germany. Nazism brought together the ideas of racial anti-semitism (that Jews were inferior by virtue of their race, or genetic makeup), Social Darwinism (that certain individuals or ethnic groups are dominant because of their inherent genetic superiority), and lebensraum (the belief that Germans needed more "living space," i.e. more territory, particularly in Eastern Europe). Nazism also embraced the attitude of total anti-Bolshevism, and demanded revenge against those people---especially Jews---who, they claimed, had "betrayed" Germany during World War I and caused it to be vanquished by the enemy (see also stab in the back myth). During its first three years of existence, the Nazi Party was mainly active in Bavaria. However, its members used emotional appeals and violence to attract many new members. On November 8--9, 1923 Hitler attempted to take over the Bavarian government, but failed. The Nazi Party was outlawed and Hitler was thrown into jail. During his nine months in prison, Hitler penned much of Mein Kampf (My Struggle), a book that would soon become the National Socialist bible. It included what Hitler alleged to be his life story and his public declarations regarding Nazi ideology. Soon after Hitler was released he revitalized the Nazi Party, and it quickly spread to western and northern Germany. 


    As the humiliated social and economic state of German society in the wake of World War I was compounded by the Great Depression, more and more people were attracted to Nazism. Germans from all walks of life were drawn to the Nazis, for all sorts of reasons. Some saw it as a young, dynamic, proactive force that could fix the country's social and economic problems. Others liked its antisemitic and anti-Communist ideology. Still others could relate to the party's call for violent, revolutionary change, while even others were drawn to the Nazis' vision of a superior society in which every pure-blooded "Aryan" German would have his own place. Party adherents included a range of Germans---from unemployed, ex-soldiers, to lower middle class Germans, to moderates from the Young Conservative and Christian Socialist movements. Hitler became a cult figure to the followers of Nazism: as the Fuehrer---simply meaning leader---he was seen as the ultimate German who could do no wrong. By 1932 the Nazi Party boasted a total of 800,000 members and 14 million voters. During the 1932 and 1933 elections it was the largest party in Germany, although it never won a majority of votes in a democratic election. After months of refusing to put Hitler into the government, German President Paul von Hindenburg named him chancellor of a coalition government in January 1933. Over the first year of their power, Hitler and the Nazis worked on obtaining absolute, authoritarian rule for their party. By the summer of 1934 Hitler had disposed of his enemies from within the party, such as Ernst Rohm (see also SA). That same year, President von Hindenburg died, and Hitler took on the additional title of president. A few months later, Hitler passed a law giving him absolute power over Germany. The Nazis destroyed the line between their particular party and the general institutions of state. They smashed any inkling of opposition by sending their opponents to concentration camps set up for that purpose. Those Germans not completely enamored with Nazism usually pretended to be in public, so as to avoid problems with the government. After the Nazis attained their initial power in 1933 and 1934, there were four years of relative quiet. The Nazis concentrated their power, took credit for a somewhat improved economy and lowered unemployment rates substantially, and began revitalizing the German military.


    Much of what many Germans had hoped for had come to be: Germany was no longer an isolated pariah country and the economy was on the rise. However, Hitler had much bigger achievements in mind: he wanted to conquer much of Europe for the German Empire, which he called the THIRD REICH. In March 1938 the Germany army entered Austria and annexed it to Germany in a move known as the anschluss. In October 1938 Hitler took over the Sudeten region of Czechoslovakia. By now, Hitler could legitimately call himself Fuehrer of the "Greater German Reich." But he had more in mind. National Socialism took on an ever more radical tune, which was manifested in the awful violence directed towards the Jews of Germany and Austria in the Kristallnacht pogrom of November 8--9, 1938, 15 years to the day that Hitler tried to overthrow the Bavarian government. This new extremism could also be seen in the violent activities of the Nazi Party's sub-organizations, such as the SS. Hitler launched World II in September 1939 as a means to achieve the National Socialist dream of a Europe dominated by Germany, in which a new racial order would prevail. However, by 1943 these dreams began to crumble, when the war turned in favor of the Allies. The Nazi regime came to an undignified close when Hitler took his own life in April 1945, but Hitler remains a cult figure even today for extremist groups world over. In his name and in the name of National Socialism, they continue to spout hatred.





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