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When Obama won & Dems had control of Congress, why no taxing the Rich as they always preached?

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Imagine what Democrats could have accomplished when Obama won & had control of Congress. They could have finally implemented their decades of election promises to their low income base.
Tax the Rich, Tax the Rich, Tax the Rich, this was their never ending election cry!
For two years the Democrat party had control of the Senate, the House, and Presidency. Lets take a look at their accomplishment with the same issues they have railed about for decades.

So called Climate Change - Nothing accomplished!

Taxing the Rich to supposedly fund their Socialist goals - Nothing accomplished! You see, Democrats are Rich also! It's all talk!

Black people moving up the ladder, getting jobs - Nothing accomplished!

People on food stamps - record numbers signing up for the program

Border control - kick the can down the road

Terrorism - ISIS came to power

National Debt - DOUBLED in eight years!

Economy - on life support for eight years, even while interest rates were kept at zero %.

As most of us all know, the Democrat Party never wants to actually implement any of their pet issues. They regurgitate these same talking points decade after decade purely for political purposes. They understand that keeping Americans tied to Government dependence is their bread and butter.

The one thing they focused on in those two years of control was forcing through their hideous healthcare plan - Obamacare was as bad as every Republican knew it would be. Remember when Obama told us we could keep our doctors and our Premiums would go down? The working man could not afford the HUGE premiums and deductibles. As always with Democrat programs, the only people benefiting were the Left's low income base. Pandering to their base! That is always the priority of the Democrat Party. The working man can go bankrupt for all they care!

Look what Trump accomplished with those same two years of Republican control and no Democrat support! This is what true leadership looks like when the Party truly wants to help fix America's problems.
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  • AlofRIAlofRI 1484 Pts   -  
    At the time Obama took over there were things that HAD to be done. First things first was never more important! It took three years to even turn around the damage the previous conservative administration had done or allowed! The auto industry had to be saved …. millions of jobs at risk, and some conservatives were fighting to let it go bankrupt! The banking industry had to be regulated and MADE to follow those regulations …. the ones that they had been allowed to ignore, putting U.S. into the conservative mess we were in! Wall Street had to be reigned in!
    You are like a child suffering from nightmares! You make up superheroes … imagined ones …. to protect you from the imagined "monsters" coming from the left! Time to grow up and face the world as it really is, little one! The REAL monster is the one you are standing with! He's about two grades ahead of you, and a middle school bully! :rage:
    PlaffelvohfenWe_are_accountableCYDdhartaErchestion
  • You are the low end voters the Democrat Party loves. They never do what they say, and little people like you lick their boots.@AlofRI
    AlofRIErchestion
  • AlofRIAlofRI 1484 Pts   -  
    If you knew me you'd know NO ONE ever accused me of "licking boots". Even my bosses.

    Tell me …. do heel spurs change the taste of boots??? ;-)
    DeeWe_are_accountablePlaffelvohfenErchestion
  • TKDBTKDB 694 Pts   -  
    Obama was all about himself, and pandering to his Liberal constituents.

    While the rest of the non Obama Liberals, tolerated he being the President.

    Being that the rest of the country was put on hold, while Obama did his thing.

    And the catch is this, his fellow Liberal lawmakers, and some of the Liberal news media outlets, catered to Obama during his time in Office.

    And even today, he's being catered to.





    AlofRIWe_are_accountableErchestion
  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    We_are_accountablePlaffelvohfenAlofRIBlastcatErchestion
  • You keep showing yourself to be the anti Christian steriotypical Leftwing person I figured you to be. Deception, distortion, is your MO.

    Obviously the Democrat Party loves the Rich. They are all Rich and have lied to the voters for fifty years.@Dee
    AlofRIErchestion
  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    @We_are_accountable

    **** You keep showing yourself to be the anti Christian 

    I love real Christians my wife and most my family are , you are most certainly not a Christian you detest the poor , homeless and the sick .....
    We_are_accountableAlofRIBlastcatErchestion
  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    @We_are_accountable

    **** You keep showing yourself to be the anti Christian 

    I love real Christians my wife and most my family are , you are most certainly not a Christian you detest the poor , homeless and the sick .....
    Blastcat
  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 5967 Pts   -   edited February 2020
    Taxing the rich is not as easy as most people think. If you talk about millionaires/billionaires, then the majority of their net worth is usually put in highly non-liquid assets. Capital gains tax is notoriously harmful to the economy, yet this is one of the few ways to reasonably tax income specifically from those assets; most other ways of doing that (such as VAT or sales tax) affect all other types of income as well.

    In practice, the rich are the ones providing resources for the economical development, and taxing them affects everyone, especially the people working for them or for the companies the assets of which are owned by them. The idea that it is easy to tax the rich in order to benefit the poor is a common mistake by people who have a simplistic outlook on the economy.
    We_are_accountableBlastcat
  • We_are_accountableWe_are_accountable 1147 Pts   -   edited February 2020
    @Dee Ah, the Judgmental Left once again demonizing Christians who do not twist the Bible to fit the Left's political correct dogma. You say you like "real" Christians who support the barbarity of abortion and deny the Science of Biology.

    I will never be one of those new age "real" Christians because God said he knows us in the wonb! God siad that Homosexuaoity is a sin. You go ahead and keep demonizing people who actually believe the word of God, and go ahead and keep supporting those who are creating their new age Christian cult.

    Go ahead and keep lying about how Bible believing Christians do not care for the poor.
    Bible believing Christians do more to voluntarilly help the poor than any other groups on the planet.
    Erchestion
  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    @We_are_accountable

    ***  God siad that Homosexuaoity is a sin.

    He also said slavery is fine ......So tell me @TKDB a fellow Christian said same sex marriage is fine so which one of you’s is the “real “ Christian?
    We_are_accountableAlofRIBlastcat
  • TKDBTKDB 694 Pts   -   edited February 2020
    @Dee

    Wow, Dee, you really like using people's perceptions against others don't you?

    What are you trying to do?
    Create an online Religious Civil War, with your non Religious musings?


    "@We_are_accountable

    ***  God siad that Homosexuaoity is a sin.

    He also said slavery is fine ......So tell me @TKDB a fellow Christian said same sex marriage is fine so which one of you’s is the “real “ Christian? "


  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    @TKDB

    All embarrassed now because according to @RickeyD and @We_are_accountable you’re not a Christian as you believe in same sex marriage , how do you address this?
    Blastcat
  • Try reading the New Testament Christian Bible, and see how God speaks to slavery. He does so as we would talk about employees. No where does the New testament Christian Bible speak to treating anyone badly as you are implying with your distortion of God's word.@Dee
  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    @TKDB

    Still embarrassed now because according to @RickeyD and @We_are_accountable you’re not a Christian as you believe in same sex marriage , how do you address this?

    No answer? Your two buddies @RickeyD and @We_are_accountable totally support you saying you’re fine with homosexual marriage yet they call Atheists evil for supporting it , proves one thing you’s are hypocrites 
    PlaffelvohfenAlofRIBlastcat
  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    @We_are_accountable

    Jesus totally supports slavery in the New Testament .....try reading it sometime 

    I see you totally support your fellow “republican Christian “ @TKDB in his support of homosexual marriage yet condemn Atheists for such , hows that work again?
    Blastcat
  • TKDBTKDB 694 Pts   -  
    @Dee

    They both told you that, themselves personally?

    "Your two buddies @RickeyD and @We_are_accountable totally support you saying you’re fine with homosexual marriage yet they call Atheists evil for supporting it , proves one thing you’s are hypocrites."


    @Dee what kind of a word is "You's?"

    Why is anyone a hypocrite?

    Because your Atheist Indoctrination self, says so?

  • TKDBTKDB 694 Pts   -   edited February 2020
    @RickeyD 

    Did you tell @Dee anything?

  • TKDBTKDB 694 Pts   -   edited February 2020
     @We_are_accountable 

    Did you tell @Dee anything?

  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    @TKDB

    They both told you that, themselves personally?

    "Your two buddies @RickeyD and @We_are_accountable totally support you saying you’re fine with homosexual marriage yet


    they call Atheists evil for supporting it , proves one thing you are hypocrites."


    @Dee what kind of a word is "You's?"

    I don’t know why do you keep using it 

    Why is anyone a hypocrite?

    Read above 

    Because your Atheist Indoctrination self, says so?

    You got that wrong the only one indoctrinated here is you ....are you still beating your kids?
    BlastcatErchestion
  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    @TKDB

    They both told you that, themselves personally?

    "Your two buddies @RickeyD and @We_are_accountable totally support you saying you’re fine with homosexual marriage yet


    they call Atheists evil for supporting it , proves one thing you are hypocrites."


    @Dee what kind of a word is "You's?"

    I don’t know why do you keep using it 

    Why is anyone a hypocrite?

    Read above 

    Because your Atheist Indoctrination self, says so?

    You got that wrong the only one indoctrinated here is you ....are you still beating your kids?
    BlastcatErchestion
  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    @TKDB

    They both told you that, themselves personally?

    "Your two buddies @RickeyD and @We_are_accountable totally support you saying you’re fine with homosexual marriage yet


    they call Atheists evil for supporting it , proves one thing you are hypocrites."


    @Dee what kind of a word is "You's?"

    I don’t know why do you keep using it 

    Why is anyone a hypocrite?

    Read above 

    Because your Atheist Indoctrination self, says so?

    You got that wrong the only one indoctrinated here is you ....are you still beating your kids?
    Blastcat
  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    @TKDB

    He did yes he said he was against same sex marriage unlike you 
    Blastcat
  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    @TKDB

    He did yes he said he was against same sex marriage unlike you 
    Blastcat
  • TKDBTKDB 694 Pts   -  
    @RickeyD

    @We_are_accountable

    Did you say, what @Dee is claiming you both said to her?

    I'm trying to get the facts straight.
  • TKDBTKDB 694 Pts   -   edited February 2020
    @Dee

    When Obama won & Dems had control of Congress, why no taxing the Rich as they always preached?


    You've been for your offensive language, and for being off topic.

    (You continue to make accusations with NO evidence to support your offensive choice of harassing words.)

    "You got that wrong the only one indoctrinated here is you ....are you still beating your kids?"

    Do you have any court records, or a police report, or maybe even a Child Protective Services statement to support your harassing words? 


  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    @TKDB ;

    ****
    @RickeyD 

    @We_are_accountable 

    Did you say, what @Dee is claiming you both said to her?

    I'm trying to get the facts straight.



    They both said gay marriage is wrong and cannot deny it but will only say its wrong if Atheists support it but when a Christian supports it that’s fine .......Did you not notice their silence?
    Blastcat
  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    @TKDB

    **** You've been for your offensive language, and for being off topic.

    I didn’t use offensive language you’re doing your usual avoidance dance 

    ***/(You continue to make accusations with NO evidence to support your offensive choice of harassing words.)

    I backed my claims up 

    ****/"You got that wrong the only one indoctrinated here is you ....are you still beating your kids?"

    Do you have any court records, or a police report, or maybe even a Child Protective Services statement to support your harassing words? 

    Are you denying you spank your kids ? Bet you don’t answer again?
    Blastcat
  • TKDBTKDB 694 Pts   -   edited February 2020
    @aarong, take a look at @Dee and her off topic, and harassing statements:

    **** You've been for your offensive language, and for being off topic.

    "I didn’t use offensive language you’re doing your usual avoidance dance"

    ***/(You continue to make accusations with NO evidence to support your offensive choice of harassing words.)

    "I backed my claims up"

    ****/"You got that wrong the only one indoctrinated here is you ....are you still beating your kids?"

    Do you have any court records, or a police report, or maybe even a Child Protective Services statement to support your harassing words? 

    "Are you denying you spank your kids ? Bet you don’t answer again?"

    So basically you're accusing me of "Child Abuse," in a forum that has nothing to do with your off topic accusations?

    When Obama won & Dems had control of Congress, why no taxing the Rich as they always preached?


    @Dee, with all due respect, you're the one doing the trolling.

    @aarong, Please take note of how she debates?



  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    @TKDB

    just you for your usual trolling 
    Blastcat
  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    @TKDB

    you’ve been for trolling 
  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    @TKDB ;

    you for trolling and offensive language .....again 
    Blastcat
  • piloteerpiloteer 1577 Pts   -  
    I'm pretty sure both major parties are guilty of taxing the American public. They're both communist agitators as far as I'm concerned, and most of the American public now also. Nobody wants individual liberty in this country anymore.   
  • I know both sides are not perfect, but the Democrat Party has become Big Brother control fanatics and are trying to slence anyone at odds with their Political correct dogma.

    I do not see this from the Republican Party.@piloteer
  • piloteerpiloteer 1577 Pts   -   edited February 2020
    I know both sides are not perfect, but the Democrat Party has become Big Brother control fanatics and are trying to slence anyone at odds with their Political correct dogma.

    I do not see this from the Republican Party.@piloteer
    Spoken like a true communist cum sock. I guess for you, it's OK that the republicans also want to steal all our wealth from us. I doubt that you even live in the US, and I wonder if you are just a troll bot that was programmed in Moscow. Embracing the collectivist ideals of either major party is an embrace of communist infiltration. The current administration has done nothing to address the national debt, and only seeks to make it larger. We as American taxpayers (by we I mean true citizens, not you) have to pay that debt back and you support a party that doesn't want to stop making the debt larger. You are no less communist than the rest and your faith is in Moscow, not the US. Embracing the collectivist ideals of Christianity are also against the ideals of the US and rejecting greed as a founding value of American doctrine is what Christians do like the communists reject greed. It would be nice if just once a supposed American could actually have an understanding of the US constitution and live by its values instead of the values of Moscow or Jerusalem.  
    We_are_accountable
  • @piloteer

    WOW, thanks for letting me know who you are so I can ignore you in the future. For you to have the nerve to talk about debt when the Democrat Party has fought every attempt by Republicans to cut it, over many years, then IGNORE! You are yet one more anti Christian bigot!
  • piloteerpiloteer 1577 Pts   -   edited February 2020
    @We_are_accountable

    Just like a communist to ignore people who have a better understanding of reality. 
  • piloteerpiloteer 1577 Pts   -  
    @We_are_accountable

    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-national-debt-increase-3-trillion-first-three-years-presidency-1483660

    Perhaps you should just ignore this site because most of us here have an understanding of reality. Since when has this administration been trying to cut the national debt? It's one thing to be a communist, but it's another thing to be an ignorant and naive communist. The national debt has gone up by 3 trillion since this president was in office. It doesn't seem like the republicans have any intention of cutting the national debt, and communist lemmings like you just go right along with it because they're republicans, and it's OK when republicans are communists. I think a better name for you is We_are_acommunist. Try learning the constitution before you pretend to speak like you know what you're talking about. Thanx brohan. Get f u c k e d, communist cum sock.

            
  • piloteerpiloteer 1577 Pts   -   edited February 2020
    Debra. I know how to override your censorship policies. Leave me alone 
  • piloteerpiloteer 1577 Pts   -   edited February 2020
     ;) 
            
  • piloteerpiloteer 1577 Pts   -   edited February 2020
    @Dee

    This We_are_acountable character has a   s t u p i d   name. Since they have put me and you in the "ignore" zone, and refuses to address the valid points we make, I'd say we have free reign to come up with a better name for this person. Like, @We_are_a_cow_lover. Or @We_are_a_coloncleanser. What do you got? 
  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    @piloteer

    The guy is a clot I just call him the RC republican Christian says it all really ..... 

    Maybe we can come up with a name that covers his constant "viable babies " rant 
    Blastcat
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